Re: Update - "Urgent help, delete system files" August 8, 2008
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Quote: "I went to
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm, and copied a
| floppy disk
| "windows 98SE, consume, no ramdrive"
|
| Didn't say she "made" a floppy disk, she specifically uses the word
| "copied". Pretty clear to me.
It's pretty clear but not perfectly clear. However, I'm willing to step
back & let you deal with all OP named Mary from now on & until the next
earthquake. They seem to have fairly tough ones. Good luck. I'm still
waiting for a rain to know whether I've got to fix my roof leak a third
time, anyhow. OK, bye.
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
http://grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23AHReTABJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | The first time she go the "non-system disk or disk error..." it was
|> | because she'd deleted all the files on C:\ and made it unbootable.
|> | The second time was because she didn't make the floppy disk
|> | properly.
|>
|> I don't see where she confirmed the floppy was made incorrectly. If
|> she actually got it right-- then I would check boot order in BIOS
|> Setup. She must put the floppy above both the hard drive & any
|> bootable CD (you've reminded me). And may as well check to see the
|> CD drive is empty too.
|>
|> | If there's no bootable CD inserted, and there is no bootable HD,
|> | AND the floppy disk, when properly created, doesn't boot either,
|> | then we can start wondering about what to do. Until then, I want
|> | the lady to focus on getting a properly created boot disk to boot
|> | and then follow my instructions for retrieving the INFO file from
|> | the recycled folder. That file contains the info required to
|> | restore the files that she deleted.
|>
|> Alright. Good luck climbing into her Recycle Bin without a toe left
|> for a Poodle to grab. OK, bye.
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |
http://grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:eh$FvExAJHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> |> | Not that we're likely to hear from Mary again, but why don't you
|> |> | butt out? She's got enough on her plate and needs to first
|> |> | verify that she indeed properly created the Startup Disk and
|> |> | then report whether it works of not. If not, we'll t-shoot that
|> |> | issue, though I seriously doubt there's anything wrong with her
|> |> | BIOS or its settings. She just didn't understand how to make a
|> |> | boot disk. My goal, once she can safely access her files using
|> |> | a bootdisk is to manually restore the files from the Recycle
|> |> | Bin, which is, from where I sit, the only method available to
|> |> | get all those files (MSDOS.SYS, for example) back to where they
|> |> | belong *without* having to go through any restoration or
|> |> | reinstallation.
|> |> |
|> |> | IF it turns out that she has more serious problems involving
|> |> | BIOS, etc., then is the time to address that problem, not now.
|> |>
|> |> You've got more knowledge & experience on it. I wouldn't be
|> |> terribly surprised if you were a tad smarter than me too. I'm
|> |> just thinking missing files on the hard drive wouldn't prevent a
|> |> Startup Diskette to work, (though I can't positively swear to
|> |> it). Therefore, either it was made improperly or the BIOS is not
|> |> set to boot it above the hard drive. The error message she gets
|> |> is the same whether the diskette is inserted or not: "non-system
|> |> disk or disk error...". She already tried to get into BIOS with a
|> |> bunch of keys-- but not all of them that Candlin knew. I wasn't
|> |> worried over stepping on your toes, because I'm sure your poodles
|> |> have bit them all off by now!
|> |>
|> |> | --
|> |> | Gary S. Terhune
|> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> |
http://grystmill.com
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> |> | news:ecaVjaLAJHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> Mary wrote:
|> |> |> | Hi, thanks for the suggestion from Gary, Jeff, Philo and Ben
|> |> |> | on how to restore my windows98 system after I deleted some
|> |> |> | operating files.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | I went to
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm, and copied a
|> |> |> | floppy disk "windows 98SE, consume, no ramdrive". Then I
|> |> |> | inserted this disk into my computer, turned on the power, now
|> |> |> | the screen is:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | "non-system disk or disk error. Replace and strike with any
|> |> |> | key when ready...."
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | So the computer still can not read the bootdisk. The computer
|> |> |> | also does not respond to any letters, and F1-F112. The
|> |> |> | bootdisk does not work! What can I do now?
|> |> |>
|> |> |> You are getting the same error message whether you insert the
|> |> |> Startup Diskette or not, I see by looking at your original
|> |> |> post. (You should have stayed in that thread.) Anyhow...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> (a) Ensure you have done as philo & Terhune have said & made a
|> |> |> fit/proper Startup Diskette. If that boots, post back for
|> |> |> further instructions. (Possibly the first thing to try is "SYS
|> |> |> C:" at the DOS A:\ prompt. Then, remove the floppy & reboot
|> |> |> hopefully to Windows.)
|> |> |>
|> |> |> (b) If the Startup Diskette STILL fails to boot, you must set
|> |> |> BIOS to boot the floppy before the hard drive. Here is what
|> |> |> Candlin once posted for that...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> .....Quote of Candlin about...............
|> |> |> .....Keystrokes to get to BIOS Setup....
|> |> |> Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Other keystrokes which might work are:
|> |> |>
|> |> |> AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
|> |> |> DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
|> |> |> Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
|> |> |> Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
|> |> |> Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
|> |> |> IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del
|> |> |>
|> |> |> If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
|> |> |> and power up again, as some older systems will default
|> |> |> to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
|> |> |> ......End of Quote............................
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Once you are in BIOS Setup, use TAB & the arrow keys to
|> |> |> navigate, & ENTER to select. (Well, there may be a legend
|> |> |> showing your keys are different.)
|> |> |>
|> |> |> (a) Find the "Boot Order" menu, & set it to boot the floppy
|> |> |> first. (b) Hit ENTER, or whatever key shows in the legend to
|> |> |> enable. (c) Find & select "Accept changes & Exit" in the menus.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot
|> |> |> down the settings. If they are not set to defaults, and
|> |> |> somehow, someday, they are cleared, all these settings will
|> |> |> have to be input again.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> | Thanks,
|> |> |> | Mary
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |>
pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |>
pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|>
pcrrcp@netzero.net