Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

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We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via windows xp RDP
or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1 failed can the
connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

No, Windows does not support hat scenario with terminal services. They can
be load balanced but not failover.

--
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"2K3" <2K3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2100A442-69F3-47CA-97DD-3D7357CD2DA6@microsoft.com...
> We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via windows xp
> RDP
> or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1 failed can
> the
> connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>
>
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via windows xp RDP
> or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1 failed can the
> connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?

I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project (http://www.inlab.de/
balance.html), that do load balance, failover or both (I use here with
1000 users currently between 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e-
tunity.com);

The Most Kind Regards,

Germano.

Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

As Jeff said, you can load-balance Terminal Servers, but you cannot
have a failover solution, in the sense that if one server dies, all
existing user sessions are moved to another server.
That is impossible. When a server dies, existing user sessions die
with it. When those users try to reconnect, they can automatically
be sent to another server and there start a new session, but that
is not failover.

Documented here:

294926 - Considerations of Terminal Services on a Server Cluster
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294926

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

X-Fire <saffier@gmail.com> wrote on 15 aug 2008:

> On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via
>> windows xp
> RDP
>> or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1
>> failed can
> the
>> connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>
> I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project
> (http://www.inlab.de/ balance.html), that do load balance,
> failover or both (I use here with 1000 users currently between
> 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e- tunity.com);
>
> The Most Kind Regards,
>
> Germano.
>
> Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

On Aug 15, 10:28 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.No...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> As Jeff said, you can load-balance Terminal Servers, but you cannot
> have a failover solution, in the sense that if one server dies, all
> existing user sessions are moved to another server.
> That is impossible. When a server dies, existing user sessions die
> with it. When those users try to reconnect, they can automatically
> be sent to another server and there start a new session, but that
> is not failover.
>
> Documented here:
>
> 294926 - Considerations of Terminal Services on a Server Clusterhttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294926
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

Exactly. Following the meaning of the word, it´s not Failover, of the
session, but of the server, or group of servers. All depends of the
solution that our friend is looking for.

P.S.: Great Site Vera! Your site helped me a lot in my job during the
last 2 years :)

The Most Kind Regards,

Germano.

Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil

>
> X-Fire <saff...@gmail.com> wrote on 15 aug 2008:
>
> > On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via
> >> windows xp
> >  RDP
> >> or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1
> >> failed can
> > the
> >> connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>
> > I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project
> > (http://www.inlab.de/balance.html), that do load balance,
> > failover or both (I use here with 1000 users currently between
> > 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e- tunity.com);
>
> > The Most Kind Regards,
>
> >    Germano.
>
> > Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

I currently have one TS server on 2k3 standard if I cluster I need to have to
built 2 new servers with 2k3 enterprise?

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> As Jeff said, you can load-balance Terminal Servers, but you cannot
> have a failover solution, in the sense that if one server dies, all
> existing user sessions are moved to another server.
> That is impossible. When a server dies, existing user sessions die
> with it. When those users try to reconnect, they can automatically
> be sent to another server and there start a new session, but that
> is not failover.
>
> Documented here:
>
> 294926 - Considerations of Terminal Services on a Server Cluster
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294926
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>
> X-Fire <saffier@gmail.com> wrote on 15 aug 2008:
>
> > On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via
> >> windows xp
> > RDP
> >> or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1
> >> failed can
> > the
> >> connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
> >
> > I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project
> > (http://www.inlab.de/ balance.html), that do load balance,
> > failover or both (I use here with 1000 users currently between
> > 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e- tunity.com);
> >
> > The Most Kind Regards,
> >
> > Germano.
> >
> > Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

I have TS on 2k3 standard will this work if I add another sk3 standard?




"X-Fire" wrote:

> On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via windows xp RDP
> > or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1 failed can the
> > connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>
> I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project (http://www.inlab.de/
> balance.html), that do load balance, failover or both (I use here with
> 1000 users currently between 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e-
> tunity.com);
>
> The Most Kind Regards,
>
> Germano.
>
> Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

You cannot cluster terminal servers.

--
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"2K3" <2K3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D9D3F11-3C76-4854-BF99-01FF96FFD30D@microsoft.com...
>I currently have one TS server on 2k3 standard if I cluster I need to have
>to
> built 2 new servers with 2k3 enterprise?
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> As Jeff said, you can load-balance Terminal Servers, but you cannot
>> have a failover solution, in the sense that if one server dies, all
>> existing user sessions are moved to another server.
>> That is impossible. When a server dies, existing user sessions die
>> with it. When those users try to reconnect, they can automatically
>> be sent to another server and there start a new session, but that
>> is not failover.
>>
>> Documented here:
>>
>> 294926 - Considerations of Terminal Services on a Server Cluster
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294926
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>>
>> X-Fire <saffier@gmail.com> wrote on 15 aug 2008:
>>
>> > On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via
>> >> windows xp
>> > RDP
>> >> or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1
>> >> failed can
>> > the
>> >> connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>> >
>> > I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project
>> > (http://www.inlab.de/ balance.html), that do load balance,
>> > failover or both (I use here with 1000 users currently between
>> > 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e- tunity.com);
>> >
>> > The Most Kind Regards,
>> >
>> > Germano.
>> >
>> > Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>>
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

On Aug 16, 1:11 am, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I have TS on 2k3 standard will this work if I add another sk3 standard?
>
> "X-Fire" wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via windows xp RDP
> > > or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1 failed can the
> > > connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>
> > I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project (http://www.inlab.de/
> > balance.html), that do load balance, failover or both (I use here with
> > 1000 users currently between 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e-
> > tunity.com);
>
> > The Most Kind Regards,
>
> >    Germano.
>
> > Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.


Hello 2K3.

I think that´s best you describe exactly what you´d like to do, to
allow us to help you better. Some things you can do, other cannot. It
depends of what you need to do. The 2 solutions i passed to you are
independent of what you use, because they only do round robin load
balance or failover servers... if that´s what you need, you may
configure any type of OS behind this solution, because it redirect the
connection between the ip address/port that you configure.

The Most Kind Regards,

Germano

Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

I see i can't do a failover... well if a TS1 box broke then can the user type
TS2 then get same settings... on the backup box? that will do it

Thanks



"X-Fire" wrote:

> On Aug 16, 1:11 am, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I have TS on 2k3 standard will this work if I add another sk3 standard?
> >
> > "X-Fire" wrote:
> > > On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via windows xp RDP
> > > > or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1 failed can the
> > > > connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
> >
> > > I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project (http://www.inlab.de/
> > > balance.html), that do load balance, failover or both (I use here with
> > > 1000 users currently between 10+ servers) or CrossRoads (crossroads.e-
> > > tunity.com);
> >
> > > The Most Kind Regards,
> >
> > > Germano.
> >
> > > Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>
>
> Hello 2K3.
>
> I think that´s best you describe exactly what you´d like to do, to
> allow us to help you better. Some things you can do, other cannot. It
> depends of what you need to do. The 2 solutions i passed to you are
> independent of what you use, because they only do round robin load
> balance or failover servers... if that´s what you need, you may
> configure any type of OS behind this solution, because it redirect the
> connection between the ip address/port that you configure.
>
> The Most Kind Regards,
>
> Germano
>
> Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>
 
Re: Adding 2nd TS server scenario?

If you are using roaming profiles then yes. Otherwise they get a new
profile and they start over with default settings. Depending on the
application this may or may not matter.

--
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"2K3" <2K3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:601FE1A8-5241-4906-A10D-3719E880DC74@microsoft.com...
>I see i can't do a failover... well if a TS1 box broke then can the user
>type
> TS2 then get same settings... on the backup box? that will do it
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> "X-Fire" wrote:
>
>> On Aug 16, 1:11 am, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > I have TS on 2k3 standard will this work if I add another sk3 standard?
>> >
>> > "X-Fire" wrote:
>> > > On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, 2K3 <2...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > > > We currently have a TS box 2003 server users connect to it via
>> > > > windows xp RDP
>> > > > or the TS web off the box if we add another TS box then box 1
>> > > > failed can the
>> > > > connection goes to box 2 sort of like fail over?
>> >
>> > > I know two free solutions. One is Balance Project
>> > > (http://www.inlab.de/
>> > > balance.html), that do load balance, failover or both (I use here
>> > > with
>> > > 1000 users currently between 10+ servers) or CrossRoads
>> > > (crossroads.e-
>> > > tunity.com);
>> >
>> > > The Most Kind Regards,
>> >
>> > > Germano.
>> >
>> > > Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>>
>>
>> Hello 2K3.
>>
>> I think that´s best you describe exactly what you´d like to do, to
>> allow us to help you better. Some things you can do, other cannot. It
>> depends of what you need to do. The 2 solutions i passed to you are
>> independent of what you use, because they only do round robin load
>> balance or failover servers... if that´s what you need, you may
>> configure any type of OS behind this solution, because it redirect the
>> connection between the ip address/port that you configure.
>>
>> The Most Kind Regards,
>>
>> Germano
>>
>> Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil.
>>
 
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