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Re: Searching for Vista USB driver for SONY Handycam TRV340E Digit
Thanks for the real important info. I have close to 100 videos of trips
through Mexico and family videos that I have wanted to put on DVDs for a few
years now and been unable to transfer them. All we could do is watch them on
the tiny camera screen or plug the camera into a TV. I started out with XP
X64 bit OS and then installed Vista Ultimate X64 bit. Sometimes I have to
download a patch or an updated version of a driver but every single program,
game, hardware, or whatever has always worked with both systems>>>>>EXCEPT
SONY STUFF. All other companies make a driver or patch to make there
products usable except Sony. With your advise I have spoted a DV output port
on the camera and my PC has firewire so I can't wait to see if it works. I
was going to go out and buy an old PC just to get the pictures out and on a
DVD. I have the DCR-TRV250 Sony Digital 8 Hanycam and it's picture quality is
great. Since it did not work with any PCs except for the old ones I never
owned, I had to buy a new Memory chip all digital camera and really easy to
load the videos/pics into the PC, printer, etc. Thanks for the info. and how
did you get to talk to someone from Sony? Thanks again. RetroDoctor out
"Eddie" wrote:
> Spoke with someone from Sony, most video cameras are equipped with a usb
> streaming method or cable. Windows Vista does not recognize this connection.
> You have to purchase a dv cable with a IEE plug so Vista will work with
> these cameras. I have the Sony dcr-trv250
> --
> Eddie O.
>
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:53:53 -0600, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Donald L McDaniel wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:49:16 -0500, "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]"
> > >> <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sony would be the one to get a USB driver from for your Handycam TRV340E
> > >>> Digital 8 camcorder
> > >>
> > >> I really don't understand why these folks don't [or can't] realize
> > >> this, Andre. Why would one expect to be able to get a driver from
> > >> anyone but the manufacturer of the device? If the manufacturer
> > >> doesn't [or won't] provide a Vista driver for their own devices, those
> > >> owners are just out-of-luck, and need to face reality sooner rather
> > >> than later. Or they need to use an OS for which the manufacturer DOES
> > >> provide drivers. Or they need to start a "movement", and demand
> > >> drivers from the manufacturer.
> > >>
> > >> Microsoft, in league with many device manufacturers, provides many and
> > >> diverse device drivers with each iteratio of its OSes. Expecting them
> > >> to provide EVERY device driver for EVERY device a user owns [or could
> > >> conceivably own] is completely unreasonable, considering how many
> > >> OEMs there are out there. To even consider such an idea is a waste of
> > >> the user's [and our] time and intellect.
> > >>
> > >> Donald McDaniel
> > >
> > >
> > >But OTOH if you buy a car from Ford you don't expect to have to have to
> > >evaluate every nut, bolt, seatbelt, oil and air filter to make sure the
> > >thing works as a car.
> > >
> > >People's expectations of compatibility are partly due to Microsoft's
> > >past efforts as maintaining it. XP has drivers for vast numbers of
> > >things, and they work, it is what people are used to. Not every driver
> > >is familiar with the technical aspects and pitfalls of buying a new car,
> > >why expect them to be with a new operating system...
> >
> > I do understand your logic. However, it is only useful to create
> > emotional responses in your readers.
> >
> > Your resoning IS a little specious, and for these reasons.
> > 1) Microsoft is not Ford.
> > 2) An OS is not a piece of machinery such as an automobile(except
> > maybe metaphorically).
> > 3) While Microsoft HAS worked hard to make their OSes available to the
> > widest possible number of computer owners, they do NOT have the legal
> > rights to write drivers for any-and-all hardware device, since they do
> > not manufacture them.
> > 4) Microsoft always works closely with the OEMs who want their devices
> > to be included in the Windows Hardware Compatibility List to write
> > drivers, if the OEM has no in-house device driver writers..
> > 5) If an OEM refuses to give Microsoft the necessary information which
> > will enable them to write a device driver, what can Microsoft do?
> > Absolutely NOTHING, but buy the device manufacturer. While Microsoft
> > has a plethora of cash, they simply don't have enough to buy every
> > device manufacturer, not would those manufacturers necessarily WANT
> > their companies to be sold to ANYONE.
> > 6) Microsoft is NOT required to include compatiblilty for any and all
> > devices by ANYTHING but the Market, and their own bottom-line. Anyone
> > can see that they are not worried about their bottom-line, so unless
> > the users and manufacturers can make a good enough case for their
> > particular devices, they simply won't.
> >
> > I can't say any more, since there is nothing more to say about this.
> > Just accept it, and bite the bullet if your particular device has no
> > driver from Microsoft, and buy a device which does have a compatible
> > driver, either from Microsoft, in union with the manufacturer, or from
> > the manufacturer itself.
> >
> > BTW, in many cases, especially with Vista, devices fail to work for a
> > simple reason: The manufacturer has chosen not to make their device
> > compatible with Vista, since it would cost too much money, so they
> > make one which is, and usually charge more for it to make up the cost
> > of making it compatible with Vista.
> >
> > This has happened with each iteration of Windows, and will continue to
> > happen each time there is a newer iteration of Windows. It's all
> > about the money, my friend.
> >
> > Let's face it: ALL computer and software manufacturers are in it for
> > the money. This is never going to change. If they can't make money
> > with their products...Well, you know what happens when a manufacturer
> > stops making money. We all do.
> >
> > Accept it..
> >
> > Donald L. McDaniel
> >
Thanks for the real important info. I have close to 100 videos of trips
through Mexico and family videos that I have wanted to put on DVDs for a few
years now and been unable to transfer them. All we could do is watch them on
the tiny camera screen or plug the camera into a TV. I started out with XP
X64 bit OS and then installed Vista Ultimate X64 bit. Sometimes I have to
download a patch or an updated version of a driver but every single program,
game, hardware, or whatever has always worked with both systems>>>>>EXCEPT
SONY STUFF. All other companies make a driver or patch to make there
products usable except Sony. With your advise I have spoted a DV output port
on the camera and my PC has firewire so I can't wait to see if it works. I
was going to go out and buy an old PC just to get the pictures out and on a
DVD. I have the DCR-TRV250 Sony Digital 8 Hanycam and it's picture quality is
great. Since it did not work with any PCs except for the old ones I never
owned, I had to buy a new Memory chip all digital camera and really easy to
load the videos/pics into the PC, printer, etc. Thanks for the info. and how
did you get to talk to someone from Sony? Thanks again. RetroDoctor out
"Eddie" wrote:
> Spoke with someone from Sony, most video cameras are equipped with a usb
> streaming method or cable. Windows Vista does not recognize this connection.
> You have to purchase a dv cable with a IEE plug so Vista will work with
> these cameras. I have the Sony dcr-trv250
> --
> Eddie O.
>
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:53:53 -0600, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Donald L McDaniel wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:49:16 -0500, "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]"
> > >> <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sony would be the one to get a USB driver from for your Handycam TRV340E
> > >>> Digital 8 camcorder
> > >>
> > >> I really don't understand why these folks don't [or can't] realize
> > >> this, Andre. Why would one expect to be able to get a driver from
> > >> anyone but the manufacturer of the device? If the manufacturer
> > >> doesn't [or won't] provide a Vista driver for their own devices, those
> > >> owners are just out-of-luck, and need to face reality sooner rather
> > >> than later. Or they need to use an OS for which the manufacturer DOES
> > >> provide drivers. Or they need to start a "movement", and demand
> > >> drivers from the manufacturer.
> > >>
> > >> Microsoft, in league with many device manufacturers, provides many and
> > >> diverse device drivers with each iteratio of its OSes. Expecting them
> > >> to provide EVERY device driver for EVERY device a user owns [or could
> > >> conceivably own] is completely unreasonable, considering how many
> > >> OEMs there are out there. To even consider such an idea is a waste of
> > >> the user's [and our] time and intellect.
> > >>
> > >> Donald McDaniel
> > >
> > >
> > >But OTOH if you buy a car from Ford you don't expect to have to have to
> > >evaluate every nut, bolt, seatbelt, oil and air filter to make sure the
> > >thing works as a car.
> > >
> > >People's expectations of compatibility are partly due to Microsoft's
> > >past efforts as maintaining it. XP has drivers for vast numbers of
> > >things, and they work, it is what people are used to. Not every driver
> > >is familiar with the technical aspects and pitfalls of buying a new car,
> > >why expect them to be with a new operating system...
> >
> > I do understand your logic. However, it is only useful to create
> > emotional responses in your readers.
> >
> > Your resoning IS a little specious, and for these reasons.
> > 1) Microsoft is not Ford.
> > 2) An OS is not a piece of machinery such as an automobile(except
> > maybe metaphorically).
> > 3) While Microsoft HAS worked hard to make their OSes available to the
> > widest possible number of computer owners, they do NOT have the legal
> > rights to write drivers for any-and-all hardware device, since they do
> > not manufacture them.
> > 4) Microsoft always works closely with the OEMs who want their devices
> > to be included in the Windows Hardware Compatibility List to write
> > drivers, if the OEM has no in-house device driver writers..
> > 5) If an OEM refuses to give Microsoft the necessary information which
> > will enable them to write a device driver, what can Microsoft do?
> > Absolutely NOTHING, but buy the device manufacturer. While Microsoft
> > has a plethora of cash, they simply don't have enough to buy every
> > device manufacturer, not would those manufacturers necessarily WANT
> > their companies to be sold to ANYONE.
> > 6) Microsoft is NOT required to include compatiblilty for any and all
> > devices by ANYTHING but the Market, and their own bottom-line. Anyone
> > can see that they are not worried about their bottom-line, so unless
> > the users and manufacturers can make a good enough case for their
> > particular devices, they simply won't.
> >
> > I can't say any more, since there is nothing more to say about this.
> > Just accept it, and bite the bullet if your particular device has no
> > driver from Microsoft, and buy a device which does have a compatible
> > driver, either from Microsoft, in union with the manufacturer, or from
> > the manufacturer itself.
> >
> > BTW, in many cases, especially with Vista, devices fail to work for a
> > simple reason: The manufacturer has chosen not to make their device
> > compatible with Vista, since it would cost too much money, so they
> > make one which is, and usually charge more for it to make up the cost
> > of making it compatible with Vista.
> >
> > This has happened with each iteration of Windows, and will continue to
> > happen each time there is a newer iteration of Windows. It's all
> > about the money, my friend.
> >
> > Let's face it: ALL computer and software manufacturers are in it for
> > the money. This is never going to change. If they can't make money
> > with their products...Well, you know what happens when a manufacturer
> > stops making money. We all do.
> >
> > Accept it..
> >
> > Donald L. McDaniel
> >