Another nail in the W98 coffin?

[keith]

Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as
in MicroSoft.
W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while
back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are
avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.

But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.

MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon
but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there
('Home') from some other site AND if I'm on their site and click on any news
story and then go back to the main site page via the 'Home' or 'Back' button
I'll get the same message again. This happens quite often but not always.

Any and all other visited sites work just fine.

Maybe MSNBC made some more "improvements" and cares even less now than
before about W98 users.

Restored Windows to a registry date prior to start of IE error messages and
did the IE repair (reinstall?) from the double click on IE6 in 'add/remove
programs'

W98, Pent II, IE6, 400 Mhz, 256 ram, small HD for OS and programs, larger HD
for files.

Just curious at this point.
Any other 98 users having similar problem with the MSNBC site?

Add me to that short Quantatative list of 98 users.
Great post and thread. Haven't finished reading it all yet.

 

[Tim Slattery]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

"keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:

>Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as
>in MicroSoft.
>W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while
>back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are
>avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.
>
>But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
>
>MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon
>but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there

Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work
with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that
will work with Win98.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[someone watching]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

I have always had trouble with 98 and IE6 since sooo many web sites went
with all this flash (crap). It seems to me that is the biggest problem
IE6 and 98 have.

I must echo Tim's question, > Have you tried the site with Firefox?

Being the type of person which really dislikes much change we see, I was
slow to try Firefox but now having tried it, having had time for the
learning curve, really like it! Although painfully slow to load, once
it's loaded what a great browser, highly customizable with plugins, and
there are loads of GREAT plugins.

To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time and
never look back! IE not working properly for you on MSNBC should not be
another nail in the coffin, it's not for me; try FF!.
___

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
>
>>Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats
>>MS as
>>in MicroSoft.
>>W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a
>>while
>>back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and
>>are
>>avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.
>>
>>But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
>>
>>MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop
>>IE icon
>>but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there
>
> Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work
> with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that
> will work with Win98.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[Don Phillipson]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

"someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:OsS9bwvBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . .

Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds,
Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:28 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
<e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:

>"someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>news:OsS9bwvBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . .
>
>Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds,
>Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time.

My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
Probably a half minute or more. Like someone else said, if I am going
to seriously use the web, I open FF, but just for a quickie link, I
use IE because I hate waiting for FF to load.

I have no problem loading msnbc.com or their news articles, using IE6.
I did not view the videos, I removed flash player completely from IE6.
I only have flash player installed in FF, and it's normally turned off
with a plugin. Once and awhile I turn it on to watch a youtube video.
On web pages that completely flash content, I just leave them. Using
flash on a webpage is assinine. I dont mind links to click on, but if
the main page itself is flash, I just wont use the site.

 

[Don Phillipson]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:9qb7b4hsjmb8hihn7n546li465uuf0iis0@4ax.com...

> >Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds,
> >Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time.
>
> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
> Probably a half minute or more.

Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest
Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

[someone watching]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

>> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
>> Probably a half minute or more.
>
> Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest
> Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured?
>

Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram)
loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins.
If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots
quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the
internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time.

Once it's up and running though, it's great!

 

[keith]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

Thanks, Tim.
Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never
really investigated.
DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is
having problems with.
Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply
bounces back)

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
>
> >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS
as
> >in MicroSoft.
> >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a
while
> >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are
> >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.
> >
> >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> >
> >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE
icon
> >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there
>
> Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work
> with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that
> will work with Win98.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[Bill in Co.]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:28 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>
>> "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:OsS9bwvBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . .
>>
>> Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds,
>> Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time.
>
> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
> Probably a half minute or more. Like someone else said, if I am going
> to seriously use the web, I open FF, but just for a quickie link, I
> use IE because I hate waiting for FF to load.

Similar over here too (maybe not terribly slow, but considerably slower than
IE).
You might also try K-Meleon. It's less polished than FF, but faster.

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:45:19 -0500, "someone watching"
<nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote:

>>> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
>>> Probably a half minute or more.
>>
>> Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest
>> Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured?
>>
>
>Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram)
>loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins.
>If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots
>quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the
>internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time.
>
>Once it's up and running though, it's great!
>

I'm running this on a Pentium III 1ghz with 512megs Ram. Not the
slowest, but not fast either. I have about 12 plugins in FF.
Of course IE does load faster because part of it is already running in
Windows. FF is installed properly. I have the 2.0.0.14 version. It
DOES work great once it runs, but its still terribly slow to load.
I just keep it loaded once I get it open. If I'm not using it, I just
keep it on my homepage, which is a html file of links on my own
harddrive.

 

[Tim Slattery]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

letterman@invalid.com wrote:

>My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
>Probably a half minute or more.

I think the reason for that is that IE uses many pieces of Windows
that are already loaded before you start IE itself. Firefox doesn't,
so it has to load its entire brain when you start it.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[Dan]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

letterman, how come you are not using Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is
currently the latest version for Windows 98 Second Edition and XP if like me
you are currently refusing to move up to version 3 in hopes that version 2
will be supported beyond the end of the 2008 year by Mozilla thus continuing
to have support for Windows 98. The puzzling thing to me is how users keep
saying Opera is so great but I have noticied Opera does not appear to support
256 bit AES encryption and so like Apple's Safari which also only uses a
maximum of 128 bit cipher strength I must ask what makes it so great other
than the fact that Opera is willing to support older outdated operating
systems?

http://secunia.com/product/393/ (Windows 95 moderately critical and less bugs)

http://secunia.com/product/13/ (Windows 98 SE less critical bugs)

http://secunia.com/advisories/31549/ (highly critical bugs for Opera users
and run to get your patch)

In short, users can minimize their risks when using Windows 98 Second
Edition on the 'Net by mainly using an alternative browser like Mozilla
Firefox that is still supported for 98 Second Edition. In addition, tools
such as SpywareBlaster will keep you safe as well. I am amused because
sometimes I try and lure people to hack my PC just for fun now since I have
read up on Steve Riley's research and honey pots and it is just like a long
and amusing game. Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who
knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad
guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A.
that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys
and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my
PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer
work as well. <smile>

"letterman@invalid.com" wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:45:19 -0500, "someone watching"
> <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote:
>
> >>> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
> >>> Probably a half minute or more.
> >>
> >> Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest
> >> Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured?
> >>
> >
> >Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram)
> >loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins.
> >If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots
> >quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the
> >internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time.
> >
> >Once it's up and running though, it's great!
> >
>
> I'm running this on a Pentium III 1ghz with 512megs Ram. Not the
> slowest, but not fast either. I have about 12 plugins in FF.
> Of course IE does load faster because part of it is already running in
> Windows. FF is installed properly. I have the 2.0.0.14 version. It
> DOES work great once it runs, but its still terribly slow to load.
> I just keep it loaded once I get it open. If I'm not using it, I just
> keep it on my homepage, which is a html file of links on my own
> harddrive.
>
>

 

[gibson]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?


Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who
> knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad
> guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A.
> that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys
> and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my
> PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer
> work as well. <smile>

fear not oh Grate(ing) Dan..... i can personally organise a visit to your home addy from a nice
chinese or russian or american traitor.... and then you can 'xplain to them in person how you
feel,, this oklee with you,, ?

 

[Dan]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

<Yawn> Grin and Bear it -- right Robear <smile>

"gibson" wrote:

>
> Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who
> > knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad
> > guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A.
> > that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys
> > and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my
> > PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer
> > work as well. <smile>
>
> fear not oh Grate(ing) Dan..... i can personally organise a visit to your home addy from a nice
> chinese or russian or american traitor.... and then you can 'xplain to them in person how you
> feel,, this oklee with you,, ?
>
>
>

 

[Dan]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It is
on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is
acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet Explorer
6 if we get to that point on Windows 98.

"keith" wrote:

> Thanks, Tim.
> Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never
> really investigated.
> DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
> But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is
> having problems with.
> Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply
> bounces back)
>
> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
> >
> > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS
> as
> > >in MicroSoft.
> > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a
> while
> > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are
> > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.
> > >
> > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> > >
> > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE
> icon
> > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there
> >
> > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work
> > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that
> > will work with Win98.
> >
> > --
> > Tim Slattery
> > MS MVP(Shell/User)
> > Slattery_T@bls.gov
> > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
>
>
>

 

[keith]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this
machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points.
Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded
again.
Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue.
It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it.
Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash.
Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or
not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention.
All in all, so far so good with Firefox.
Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'.

Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far
afield.

Thanks much.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com...
> Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It
is
> on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is
> acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet
Explorer
> 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98.
>
> "keith" wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Tim.
> > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but
never
> > really investigated.
> > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
> > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is
> > having problems with.
> > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international
reply
> > bounces back)
> >
> > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years.
Thats MS
> > as
> > > >in MicroSoft.
> > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a
> > while
> > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and
are
> > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.
> > > >
> > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> > > >
> > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop
IE
> > icon
> > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there
> > >
> > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work
> > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that
> > > will work with Win98.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim Slattery
> > > MS MVP(Shell/User)
> > > Slattery_T@bls.gov
> > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
> >
> >
> >

 

[Dan]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

You're welcome. Please keep us informed.

"keith" wrote:

> Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this
> machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points.
> Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded
> again.
> Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue.
> It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it.
> Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash.
> Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or
> not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention.
> All in all, so far so good with Firefox.
> Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'.
>
> Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far
> afield.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com...
> > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It
> is
> > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is
> > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet
> Explorer
> > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98.
> >
> > "keith" wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Tim.
> > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but
> never
> > > really investigated.
> > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
> > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is
> > > having problems with.
> > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international
> reply
> > > bounces back)
> > >
> > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years.
> Thats MS
> > > as
> > > > >in MicroSoft.
> > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a
> > > while
> > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and
> are
> > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites.
> > > > >
> > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> > > > >
> > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop
> IE
> > > icon
> > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work
> > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that
> > > > will work with Win98.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim Slattery
> > > > MS MVP(Shell/User)
> > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov
> > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

 

[keith]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem

Error message from last event:
Iexplore:
This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down
If the problem persists, contact program vendor.

Details:
IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at
017f:30055b27.
Registers:
EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc
ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf
EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f
Stack dump:
00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101
ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101

Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events.
Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings
for same/similar problem.
Have been reading and printing some of them.
Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising.
Will follow up soon.
Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com...
> You're welcome. Please keep us informed.
>
> "keith" wrote:
>
> > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this
> > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points.
> > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and
downloaded
> > again.
> > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue.
> > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it.
> > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash.
> > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled
or
> > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention.
> > All in all, so far so good with Firefox.
> > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'.
> >
> > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far
> > afield.
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com...
> > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently.
It
> > is
> > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6
is
> > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet
> > Explorer
> > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98.
> > >
> > > "keith" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Tim.
> > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but
> > never
> > > > really investigated.
> > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
> > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6
is
> > > > having problems with.
> > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international
> > reply
> > > > bounces back)
> > > >
> > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years.
> > Thats MS
> > > > as
> > > > > >in MicroSoft.
> > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved
website a
> > > > while
> > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer
and
> > are
> > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news
sites.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the
desktop
> > IE
> > > > icon
> > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go
there
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will
work
> > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE
that
> > > > > will work with Win98.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tim Slattery
> > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User)
> > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov
> > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

 

[keith]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

PS: Same details for subsequent error messages.
"keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message
news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem
>
> Error message from last event:
> Iexplore:
> This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down
> If the problem persists, contact program vendor.
>
> Details:
> IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at
> 017f:30055b27.
> Registers:
> EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202
> EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc
> ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf
> EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000
> Bytes at CS:EIP:
> 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f
> Stack dump:
> 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101
> ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101
>
> Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events.
> Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings
> for same/similar problem.
> Have been reading and printing some of them.
> Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising.
> Will follow up soon.
> Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com...
> > You're welcome. Please keep us informed.
> >
> > "keith" wrote:
> >
> > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this
> > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points.
> > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and
> downloaded
> > > again.
> > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue.
> > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to
it.
> > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash.
> > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was
enabled
> or
> > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention.
> > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox.
> > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'.
> > >
> > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far
> > > afield.
> > >
> > > Thanks much.
> > >
> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com...
> > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website
recently.
> It
> > > is
> > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE
6
> is
> > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet
> > > Explorer
> > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98.
> > > >
> > > > "keith" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Tim.
> > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing
but
> > > never
> > > > > really investigated.
> > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
> > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that
IE6
> is
> > > > > having problems with.
> > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated,
international
> > > reply
> > > > > bounces back)
> > > > >
> > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few
years.
> > > Thats MS
> > > > > as
> > > > > > >in MicroSoft.
> > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved
> website a
> > > > > while
> > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer
> and
> > > are
> > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news
> sites.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the
> desktop
> > > IE
> > > > > icon
> > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go
> there
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will
> work
> > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE
> that
> > > > > > will work with Win98.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Tim Slattery
> > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User)
> > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov
> > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

 

[Dan]

Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin?

Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then
reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but that
the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how.
Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us know
in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues.

"keith" wrote:

> PS: Same details for subsequent error messages.
> "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message
> news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem
> >
> > Error message from last event:
> > Iexplore:
> > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down
> > If the problem persists, contact program vendor.
> >
> > Details:
> > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at
> > 017f:30055b27.
> > Registers:
> > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202
> > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc
> > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf
> > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000
> > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f
> > Stack dump:
> > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101
> > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101
> >
> > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events.
> > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings
> > for same/similar problem.
> > Have been reading and printing some of them.
> > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising.
> > Will follow up soon.
> > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com...
> > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed.
> > >
> > > "keith" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this
> > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points.
> > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and
> > downloaded
> > > > again.
> > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue.
> > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to
> it.
> > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash.
> > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was
> enabled
> > or
> > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention.
> > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox.
> > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'.
> > > >
> > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far
> > > > afield.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks much.
> > > >
> > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website
> recently.
> > It
> > > > is
> > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE
> 6
> > is
> > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet
> > > > Explorer
> > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98.
> > > > >
> > > > > "keith" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Tim.
> > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing
> but
> > > > never
> > > > > > really investigated.
> > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try.
> > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that
> IE6
> > is
> > > > > > having problems with.
> > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated,
> international
> > > > reply
> > > > > > bounces back)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few
> years.
> > > > Thats MS
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > >in MicroSoft.
> > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved
> > website a
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer
> > and
> > > > are
> > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news
> > sites.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the
> > desktop
> > > > IE
> > > > > > icon
> > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go
> > there
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will
> > work
> > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE
> > that
> > > > > > > will work with Win98.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Tim Slattery
> > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User)
> > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov
> > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
>