Re: system freeze very often
OK, very _few_ members of microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs have any
experience of Fresno. Those that do probably purchased it by mistake,
thinking it was SBS2003. I'm on record as saying naming the product so
similarly is one of those 'big goofs' MS just too frequently do.
I still reckon you need RAID, and a relatively inexpensive RAID1 card and
two SATA HDD's would conclusively prove if the problem was HDD related.
I'm pretty sure the baby Dells (like the 440) come with a similar CD to the
more midrange systems which has further diagnostics (they take longer to run
than a few minutes) or if it's an OEM install the Dell utility partition may
have such. I'd run the longer (RAM and HDD) tests and possibly the CPU tests
as well.
Another idea is to identify the drive manufacturer (Dell do change) and grab
the drive diag from them.
"lenny" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
news:6pWdnQvVDJ5EkiLVnZ2dnUVZ8szinZ2d@pipex.net...
> Yes it is Fresno. The only reason that there is such a small amount of RAM
> is because I have replaced the original after an error appeared and this
> is just there until the main replacement is delivered. It hasn't made any
> difference to the problem though. The machine has been running on 1GB Ram
> since new so it isn't that causing the problem. There are only 2 users and
> 2 laptop users connecting so it isn't getting much of a hammering.
>
> There isn't a Raid system installed. It is a single HD (All setup before I
> came along and there are many other 'issues' with the whole office setup
> but that is for another day)
>
> Even if it has run for 18 months it still shouldn't really fail. I have
> other servers operating elsewhere and they have been going for years
> without problems.
>
> Thanks for the advice though
> Cheers
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> news:%23$q5kNhDJHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> it probably doesn't explain your freezes but in a way I hope you are
>> talking about the product not-so-lovingly referred to as 'Fresno',
>> Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server, rather than SBS2003 (which
>> also identifies itself in similar manner).
>>
>> An easy way of differentiating the products is that SBS includes
>> Exchange, and has a maximum CAL count of 75 rather than 10(or is Fresno
>> 15?).
>>
>> Though the MS datasheet suggests the minimum RAM for SBS is 512MB anyone
>> who believes that has rocks in their head. I've run SBS in 1GB but a more
>> realistic minimum is 2. Heck, asking just Windows Server 2003 to run in
>> 512MB is 'pushing it'. For any significant number of users the minimum
>> (and maximum allowed) for a fully functioning SBS 2003 R2 is thought to
>> be 4GB by many.
>>
>> If it does turn out to be the HDD, don't be disappointed. That drive has
>> been thrashed to death, 24*7 for 18mths.
>>
>> And I hope that in reality 'that drive' is a RAID array. _NO_ server
>> should operate on a single drive, and certainly NO SBS.
>>
>> "lenny" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
>> news:L96dnY3FXsJPYiPVnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> Only Memory in Slot 1 and 2. Both are DDR2, 256mb, PC2-4300 (266Mhz)
>>> Samsung
>>> Same Part number for both M3 91T3253FZ3-CD5
>>> Correction is EEC
>>>
>>> "lenny" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
>>> news:x5SdnUUSN_jOayPVnZ2dnUVZ8tPinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Over the last few weeks the system (Dell PowerEdge SC440 Windows Server
>>>> 2003 for small business server- out of warranty by 3 months!) has
>>>> started to freeze. The screen freezes with no mouse movement or
>>>> keyboard input registered.
>>>>
>>>> It started just every few days then sometimes twice a day then every
>>>> few days then once a day and today every 10 minutes or so.
>>>>
>>>> I have changed the RAM (After the Health Monitor showed an error with
>>>> the RAM) and also the LAN card (there wasn't any errors but I thought I
>>>> should try it) but although they seemed to make a difference it was a
>>>> red herring and now it is as bad as ever. There are no errors in the
>>>> log files except to tell me that the system was rebooted unexpectedly.
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking that it is the Hard Drive but it is only 18 months old.
>>>> Could it be anything else? What should I try first and how? It is
>>>> difficult to test the HD as it freezes too quickly now. I have done a
>>>> system test from the F11 button and both the ram and HD passed. It only
>>>> took a few minutes though.
>>>>
>>>
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