Shared Document folder vs Document folder

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Hi,
Have a strange XP Pro SP2+ non-problem but an annoyance I'd like to ask
about. In essence, Win Explorer is changing folder names. I know it'll
do that with user accounts and depending on who's logged onto what
account, but this is different and it recently caused a little more than
simply annoyance in looking for a folder I not only knew existed, but
even had the path for. It's hard to explain so I'll do it a few
different ways<g>. If that fails, I can put it up on a web site for the
asking to show what I mean.

Emphasis added by me:

In windows Exporer, the TITLE bar shows the file path a:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Documents*\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip
but ...
If you look at the folder names in the left pane, it's actually in:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Shared Documents*\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip

Depending on whether you copy what you see in the Title Bar, or assemble
the path mentally from the folders representation, you get two DIFFERENT
paths to the same file!

The reason it was an annoyance is because I was copy/pasting NOF's
manual representation of the path, the first line above, and not finding
my file. I don't use win explorer a lot, opting instead for PowerDesk
instead, and interestingly enough, IT reads the path as:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip
BUT.. in the left pane, instead of showing Shared Documents, shows
instead just "Documents" as in the second line above. So if I mentally
assemble the path from PD's panes, I get the same Title Path that
windows explorer printed, BUT in windows explorer, that folde is names
"Shared Documents" .

Put another way, windows explorer, in the title bar and PowerDesk in
both the title bar AND the folder list, show a folder named "Documents".
In windows explorer however, in the left pane, the folder appears as
"Shared Document", NOT as just "Documents".

Or, stated another way:
Windows title bar:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip
PowerDesk title bar:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip

Windows Folder List Pane:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Shared Documents*\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip
PowerDesk Folder List Pane:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates\SPCA.zip

And yes, it is the EXACT same file each time; I've watched it be
created.

----------------------------
One more piece to the story:
I asked my sister to look at her machines.
Her laptop shows "Shared Documents" .
Hed desktop shows it as just "Documents" though.
---------------------------
One more:
History:
-- I have moved My Documents to drive E:\.
-- My main pagefile is on drive F:\.
-- I've made no other changes to system files or folders that I'm aware
of.
--------------------------

From the Command prompt:
--------------------------
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates>dir
Volume in drive C is C: Local Disk
Volume Serial Number is 0454-9A41

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\*Documents*\NetObjects
Fusion 11.0\Templates

09/14/2008 11:14 AM <DIR> .
09/14/2008 11:14 AM <DIR> ..
09/14/2008 11:14 AM 0 010011
09/04/2008 09:11 PM <DIR> AutoSites
09/04/2008 09:11 PM <DIR> Forms
09/04/2008 09:11 PM <DIR> Pages
09/14/2008 10:52 AM 13,996,683 SPCA.zip
2 File(s) 13,996,683 bytes
5 Dir(s) 26,128,973,824 bytes free

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\NetObjects Fusion
11.0\Templates>
------------------------

Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real
folder or another of XP's aberrations?

TIA,

Twayne
 
Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder

Twayne wrote:
> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real
> folder or another of XP's aberrations?

The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the
System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the folder.

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Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder

> Twayne wrote:
>> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real
>> folder or another of XP's aberrations?
>
> The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the
> System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the folder.

Huh! I never gave the *.ini's even a passing thought! Out of sight,
out of mind, I guess. In my case at least. It was really starting to
annoy me though.

Thanks much!

Twayne
 
Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder


Likewise I tend to avoid use of Explorer for the same reason - you can never
trust what you see in it,. I use Altap Salamander, though there are several
other good filemanagers out there. What I cannot understand is why Microsoft
won't see reason and stop building all this silliness into Explorer.


"Twayne" wrote:

> > Twayne wrote:
> >> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real
> >> folder or another of XP's aberrations?
> >
> > The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the
> > System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the folder.
>
> Huh! I never gave the *.ini's even a passing thought! Out of sight,
> out of mind, I guess. In my case at least. It was really starting to
> annoy me though.
>
> Thanks much!
>
> Twayne
>
>
>
 
Re: Shared Document folder vs Document folder

> Likewise I tend to avoid use of Explorer for the same reason - you
> can never trust what you see in it,. I use Altap Salamander, though
> there are several other good filemanagers out there. What I cannot
> understand is why Microsoft won't see reason and stop building all
> this silliness into Explorer.

Agreed.
I sort of see why they do it, esp in the case of so-called system files
but I object to it also. It doesn't make sense to be calling apples
oranges though, no matter how I look at it. I suspsect in way too many
instance the code author was also the technical writer, and whoever had
to vet those had no idea what it was about anyway,

I normally use PowerDesk Pro which is very functional and useful; pretty
well integrated into several things including the context menues. Have
heard of Salamander but I'm quite happy with PD, but thanks. I have to
keep using Explorer now and then because I have to be able to see things
as others are going to see them; you can't depend on them having an
alternate file manager.
Evel looked at what happens if you have say three or four accounts
and check around for My Documents? I STILL have a My Documents that
shows alphabetically where TwaynesDocuments would be! So first I think
it's missing a lot of times, and then, "Oh! It's down there!" in
Explorer. PD shows it as it's actual name, in the right alphabetic
position, but not Explorer<g>. It can get crazy. What really bugged me
is I knew about desktop.ini but it never occurred to me inthis last
instance. So much to remember sometimes<g>.

Cheers,


>
>
> "Twayne" wrote:
>
>>> Twayne wrote:
>>>> Sooo, where does "Shared Documents" come from then? Is it a real
>>>> folder or another of XP's aberrations?
>>>
>>> The <C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents> folder has the
>>> System attribute set, so Explorer reads Desktop.ini inside the
>>> folder.
>>
>> Huh! I never gave the *.ini's even a passing thought! Out of sight,
>> out of mind, I guess. In my case at least. It was really starting
>> to annoy me though.
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>> Twayne
 
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