server 2008 - disk management issue

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Hi all,

I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume (Basic
Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2 partitions:

39MB Dell Utilities Partition
200GB System Boot Partition - C:\

For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated space
in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:

1847.96GB Unallocated
2607.00 GB Unallocated

Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the remaining
unallocated space and I cannot do that now.

TIA!
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

Hello paramr@community.nospam,

See last entry from Morgan Che:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST

Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB
Max Partition on a GPT disk is about 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are
some limitations.... which effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte

Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.

Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS Volumes
much larger than a single partions....

In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However, even if
there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that capacity,
there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.

One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,
partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another
limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is
typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future, the
current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 * 512
bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).

The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.

Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?

Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to backup
? how long to restore ?

Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes ?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Hi all,
>
> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2
> partitions:
>
> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated
> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
>
> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
>
> TIA!
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run BackupExec
and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my
backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition to
store my backup data.

What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would that
do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not recommended.

TIA!


<Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
>
> See last entry from Morgan Che:
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is about
> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which effectively
> will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS Volumes
> much larger than a single partions....
> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However, even
> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that
> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.
> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,
> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another
> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is
> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future, the
> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 * 512
> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?
> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to
> backup ? how long to restore ?
> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes
> ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2
>> partitions:
>>
>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated
>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
>>
>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

OK, so situation #2:

I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to Dynamic
disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why? Here is what my
disk manager looks like:

39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
1847.96GB Unallocated
2607.00 GB Unallocated

Any ideas?

<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run BackupExec
> and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
> eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my
> backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition to
> store my backup data.
>
> What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would
> that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not recommended.
>
> TIA!
>
>
> <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
>>
>> See last entry from Morgan Che:
>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
>> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is about
>> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
>> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
>> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
>> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS Volumes
>> much larger than a single partions....
>> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However, even
>> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that
>> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.
>> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,
>> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another
>> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is
>> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future, the
>> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 * 512
>> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
>> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
>> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?
>> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to
>> backup ? how long to restore ?
>> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes
>> ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
>>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2
>>> partitions:
>>>
>>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
>>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
>>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated
>>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
>>>
>>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
>>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
>>>
>>> TIA!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue


<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> OK, so situation #2:
>
> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to Dynamic
> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?

You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card, and
presented it as one big disk.
This is where you get into trouble.

If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for the
boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this as a
secondary disk to the OS.
At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior of
putting any partitions on.

You did not specify any of your storage hardware
- are you using RAID ? (specify)
- how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?

Rgds,
Edwin.



> Here is what my
> disk manager looks like:
>
> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>
> Any ideas?
>
> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
BackupExec
> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my
> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition
to
> > store my backup data.
> >
> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would
> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
recommended.
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> >
> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
> >>
> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
> >>
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is about
> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS
Volumes
> >> much larger than a single partions....
> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However,
even
> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that
> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.
> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,
> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another
> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is
> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future,
the
> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 *
512
> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?
> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to
> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes
> >>
? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2
> >>> partitions:
> >>>
> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated
> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
> >>>
> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
> >>>
> >>> TIA!
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...


"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> OK, so situation #2:
>>
>> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to
>> Dynamic
>> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?
>
> You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
> It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card, and
> presented it as one big disk.
> This is where you get into trouble.
>
> If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for the
> boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this as a
> secondary disk to the OS.
> At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior of
> putting any partitions on.
>
> You did not specify any of your storage hardware
> - are you using RAID ? (specify)
> - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?
>
> Rgds,
> Edwin.
>
>
>
>> Here is what my
>> disk manager looks like:
>>
>> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
>> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
> BackupExec
>> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
>> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as my
>> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of volume/partition
> to
>> > store my backup data.
>> >
>> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk would
>> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
> recommended.
>> >
>> > TIA!
>> >
>> >
>> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
>> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
>> >>
>> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
>> >>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
>> >>
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------------
>> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
>> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is
>> >> about
>> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
>> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
>> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
>> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS
> Volumes
>> >> much larger than a single partions....
>> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However,
> even
>> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that
>> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a volume.
>> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,
>> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another
>> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is
>> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the future,
> the
>> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32 *
> 512
>> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
>> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
>> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?
>> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long to
>> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
>> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller partitions/volumes
>> >>
> ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Best regards
>> >>
>> >> Meinolf Weber
>> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> >> confers no rights.
>> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
>> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has 2
>> >>> partitions:
>> >>>
>> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
>> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
>> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining unallocated
>> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
>> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
>> >>>
>> >>> TIA!
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

you should really break that out in a different raid config

- 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk
- 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS on the
first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition

rgds,
Edwin.



<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...
>
>
> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> OK, so situation #2:
> >>
> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to
> >> Dynamic
> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?
> >
> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card,
and
> > presented it as one big disk.
> > This is where you get into trouble.
> >
> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for the
> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this as
a
> > secondary disk to the OS.
> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior
of
> > putting any partitions on.
> >
> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware
> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)
> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Edwin.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Here is what my
> >> disk manager looks like:
> >>
> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
> > BackupExec
> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as
my
> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of
volume/partition
> > to
> >> > store my backup data.
> >> >
> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk
would
> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
> > recommended.
> >> >
> >> > TIA!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
> >> >>
> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
> >> >>
> >
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ---------------------------------------------
> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is
> >> >> about
> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS
> > Volumes
> >> >> much larger than a single partions....
> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters. However,
> > even
> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that
> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a
volume.
> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry standards,
> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size, another
> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and is
> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the
future,
> > the
> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32
*
> > 512
> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?
> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long
to
> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller
partitions/volumes
> >> >>
> >
? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It has
2
> >> >>> partitions:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining
unallocated
> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> TIA!
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-

Raid 5 using all 6 drives

Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS
The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert to
GPT?


"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> you should really break that out in a different raid config
>
> - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk
> - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS on
> the
> first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition
>
> rgds,
> Edwin.
>
>
>
> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...
>>
>>
>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> OK, so situation #2:
>> >>
>> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to
>> >> Dynamic
>> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?
>> >
>> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
>> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID card,
> and
>> > presented it as one big disk.
>> > This is where you get into trouble.
>> >
>> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for
>> > the
>> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this
>> > as
> a
>> > secondary disk to the OS.
>> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT prior
> of
>> > putting any partitions on.
>> >
>> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware
>> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)
>> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?
>> >
>> > Rgds,
>> > Edwin.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Here is what my
>> >> disk manager looks like:
>> >>
>> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
>> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
>> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
>> > BackupExec
>> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
>> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server as
> my
>> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of
> volume/partition
>> > to
>> >> > store my backup data.
>> >> >
>> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk
> would
>> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
>> > recommended.
>> >> >
>> >> > TIA!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
>> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
>> >> >>
>> >
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ---------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
>> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
>> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
>> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
>> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS
>> > Volumes
>> >> >> much larger than a single partions....
>> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.
>> >> >> However,
>> > even
>> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of that
>> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a
> volume.
>> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry
>> >> >> standards,
>> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,
>> >> >> another
>> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the
> future,
>> > the
>> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^ 32
> *
>> > 512
>> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
>> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
>> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume ?
>> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how long
> to
>> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
>> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller
> partitions/volumes
>> >> >>
>> >
> ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > ----------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Meinolf Weber
>> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5 volume
>> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It
>> >> >>> has
> 2
>> >> >>> partitions:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
>> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
>> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining
> unallocated
>> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
>> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> TIA!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue



> Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-
>
> Raid 5 using all 6 drives
>
> Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS
> The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert to
> GPT?

no, you convert disks to GPT, not volumes.

Why everything in 1 disk ?



>
>
> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > you should really break that out in a different raid config
> >
> > - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk
> > - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS on
> > the
> > first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition
> >
> > rgds,
> > Edwin.
> >
> >
> >
> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> OK, so situation #2:
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to
> >> >> Dynamic
> >> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?
> >> >
> >> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
> >> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID
card,
> > and
> >> > presented it as one big disk.
> >> > This is where you get into trouble.
> >> >
> >> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for
> >> > the
> >> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present this
> >> > as
> > a
> >> > secondary disk to the OS.
> >> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT
prior
> > of
> >> > putting any partitions on.
> >> >
> >> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware
> >> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)
> >> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?
> >> >
> >> > Rgds,
> >> > Edwin.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Here is what my
> >> >> disk manager looks like:
> >> >>
> >> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
> >> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
> >> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
> >> > BackupExec
> >> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk. I
> >> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server
as
> > my
> >> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of
> > volume/partition
> >> > to
> >> >> > store my backup data.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk
> > would
> >> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
> >> > recommended.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > TIA!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
> >> >> >>
> >> >
> >
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > -
> >> > ---------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
> >> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk is
> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
> >> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
> >> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
> >> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS
> >> > Volumes
> >> >> >> much larger than a single partions....
> >> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.
> >> >> >> However,
> >> > even
> >> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of
that
> >> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a
> > volume.
> >> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry
> >> >> >> standards,
> >> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,
> >> >> >> another
> >> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards, and
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the
> > future,
> >> > the
> >> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^
32
> > *
> >> > 512
> >> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
> >> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
> >> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE volume
?
> >> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how
long
> > to
> >> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
> >> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller
> > partitions/volumes
> >> >> >>
> >> >
> >
? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > ----------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Best regards
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5
volume
> >> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It
> >> >> >>> has
> > 2
> >> >> >>> partitions:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
> >> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
> >> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining
> > unallocated
> >> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all the
> >> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> TIA!
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue

FYI, my raid controller let me do what is called "Raid splicing". So I was
able to splice up my Raid 5 into 1 200GB volume and 1 4.4TB volume. Both
those were presented as 2 disks to windows. So i installed the OS on the
200GB and I converted the other one to a GPT and then was able to partition
it all the way...


"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:uTwit3IHJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
>> Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-
>>
>> Raid 5 using all 6 drives
>>
>> Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS
>> The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert
>> to
>> GPT?
>
> no, you convert disks to GPT, not volumes.
>
> Why everything in 1 disk ?
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > you should really break that out in a different raid config
>> >
>> > - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk
>> > - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS
>> > on
>> > the
>> > first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition
>> >
>> > rgds,
>> > Edwin.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> > news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> in
>> >> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >
>> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> OK, so situation #2:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert to
>> >> >> Dynamic
>> >> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?
>> >> >
>> >> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
>> >> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID
> card,
>> > and
>> >> > presented it as one big disk.
>> >> > This is where you get into trouble.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them, for
>> >> > the
>> >> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present
>> >> > this
>> >> > as
>> > a
>> >> > secondary disk to the OS.
>> >> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT
> prior
>> > of
>> >> > putting any partitions on.
>> >> >
>> >> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware
>> >> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)
>> >> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Rgds,
>> >> > Edwin.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Here is what my
>> >> >> disk manager looks like:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
>> >> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
>> >> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> >> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
>> >> > BackupExec
>> >> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to disk.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this server
> as
>> > my
>> >> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of
>> > volume/partition
>> >> > to
>> >> >> > store my backup data.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk
>> > would
>> >> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
>> >> > recommended.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > TIA!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > -
>> >> > ---------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
>> >> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> about
>> >> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
>> >> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
>> >> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
>> >> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create NTFS
>> >> > Volumes
>> >> >> >> much larger than a single partions....
>> >> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.
>> >> >> >> However,
>> >> > even
>> >> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of
> that
>> >> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a
>> > volume.
>> >> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry
>> >> >> >> standards,
>> >> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,
>> >> >> >> another
>> >> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the
>> > future,
>> >> > the
>> >> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2 ^
> 32
>> > *
>> >> > 512
>> >> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
>> >> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
>> >> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE
>> >> >> >> volume
> ?
>> >> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how
> long
>> > to
>> >> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
>> >> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller
>> > partitions/volumes
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
> ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > ----------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best regards
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Meinolf Weber
>> >> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> confers no rights.
>> >> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> >> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Hi all,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5
> volume
>> >> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB. It
>> >> >> >>> has
>> > 2
>> >> >> >>> partitions:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
>> >> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
>> >> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining
>> > unallocated
>> >> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
>> >> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
>> >> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> TIA!
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: server 2008 - disk management issue


<paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:uLIq8ZNHJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> FYI, my raid controller let me do what is called "Raid splicing". So I was
> able to splice up my Raid 5 into 1 200GB volume and 1 4.4TB volume. Both
> those were presented as 2 disks to windows. So i installed the OS on the
> 200GB and I converted the other one to a GPT and then was able to
partition
> it all the way...

Brilliant, you should be all set then !

Thanks for posting back
rgds,
Edwin.


>
>
> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:uTwit3IHJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> >> Instead of doing it that way, could I do this:-
> >>
> >> Raid 5 using all 6 drives
> >>
> >> Create a 200GB raid volume using the raid controller for OS
> >> The rest of the space will be an empty unused volume that I can convert
> >> to
> >> GPT?
> >
> > no, you convert disks to GPT, not volumes.
> >
> > Why everything in 1 disk ?
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:%23X$7HKmGJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > you should really break that out in a different raid config
> >> >
> >> > - 2x1TB in RAID-1 -- 1TB for your system boot disk
> >> > - 4x1TB in RAID-5 -- 3TB for your data disk (after installing your OS
> >> > on
> >> > the
> >> > first disk, you can convert this to GPT and create a 3TB partition
> >> >
> >> > rgds,
> >> > Edwin.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> >> > news:uuFmSAmGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Dell Perc 6/i Raid Controller. 6 1TB HDDs in 1 Raid 5 config...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> >> in
> >> >> message news:uIDKEMjGJHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:u7xawteGJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> OK, so situation #2:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I tried right clicking on Disk 0 and all the options to convert
to
> >> >> >> Dynamic
> >> >> >> disk or convert to GPT disk are disabled. Any ideas why?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You cannot convert a disk to GPT while there are partitions on it.
> >> >> > It seems to me that you bound one big disk on your internal RAID
> > card,
> >> > and
> >> >> > presented it as one big disk.
> >> >> > This is where you get into trouble.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you have multiple disks, I would mirror (RAID-1) two of them,
for
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > boot/system disk, then RAID-5 (or 6 or 10) for Data, and present
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > as
> >> > a
> >> >> > secondary disk to the OS.
> >> >> > At that point the larger (secondary disk) can be converted to GPT
> > prior
> >> > of
> >> >> > putting any partitions on.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You did not specify any of your storage hardware
> >> >> > - are you using RAID ? (specify)
> >> >> > - how many disk in your RAID array ? what capacity ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rgds,
> >> >> > Edwin.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Here is what my
> >> >> >> disk manager looks like:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 39MB Healthy (EISA Configuration)
> >> >> >> C: - 200GB Healthy (System, Boot)
> >> >> >> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >> >> >> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any ideas?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> <paramr@community.nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:Ob9ecldGJHA.4956@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > This server happens to be my backup server. It is going to run
> >> >> > BackupExec
> >> >> >> > and I currently have 3TB worth of data I need to backup to
disk.
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > eventually plan on adding direct attached storage to this
server
> > as
> >> > my
> >> >> >> > backups grow in size. But for now, I need some type of
> >> > volume/partition
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > store my backup data.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What are my options here? If I upgrade the disk to a dynamic
disk
> >> > would
> >> >> >> > that do anything? I read somewhere that Dynamic Disks are not
> >> >> > recommended.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > TIA!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > <Meinolf Weber> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:ff16fb6678968cae7faf796986d@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> Hello paramr@community.nospam,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> See last entry from Morgan Che:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >
http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9e8ef71f-02c4-402c-b9b8-16d32b6cb8a2/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > -
> >> > -
> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> Edwin vMierlo [MVP] 7/10/2008 2:50 AM PST
> >> >> >> >> Max Partition on a MBR disk is 2TB Max Partition on a GPT disk
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> >> 8589934592 TB (in theory) there are some limitations.... which
> >> >> >> >> effectively will bring this to about 18 ExaByte
> >> >> >> >> Please note a partition is on a single phisical disk.
> >> >> >> >> Once you start using dynamic disks, you can actually create
NTFS
> >> >> > Volumes
> >> >> >> >> much larger than a single partions....
> >> >> >> >> In theory, the maximum NTFS volume size is 2 ^ 32 clusters.
> >> >> >> >> However,
> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> >> if there were hardware available to supply a logical volume of
> > that
> >> >> >> >> capacity, there are other limitations to the maximum size of a
> >> > volume.
> >> >> >> >> One of these limitations is partition tables. By industry
> >> >> >> >> standards,
> >> >> >> >> partition tables are limited to 2 ^ 32 sectors. Sector size,
> >> >> >> >> another
> >> >> >> >> limitation, is a function of hardware and industry standards,
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> typically 512 bytes. While sector sizes might increase in the
> >> > future,
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> current size puts a limit on a single volume of 2 terabytes (2
^
> > 32
> >> > *
> >> >> > 512
> >> >> >> >> bytes, or 2 ^ 41 bytes).
> >> >> >> >> The maximum number of files on an NTFS volume is 2 ^ 32 - 1.
> >> >> >> >> Please be carefull, do you really need such a large SINGLE
> >> >> >> >> volume
> > ?
> >> >> >> >> Have you considered how long it will take to run CHKDSK ? how
> > long
> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> backup ? how long to restore ?
> >> >> >> >> Would you not be better off having multiple smaller
> >> > partitions/volumes
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >
? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > ----------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Best regards
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> >> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> >> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
> > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> I have a Dell PE 2950 server with a single hardware Raid 5
> > volume
> >> >> >> >>> (Basic Disk 0) with 6 drives and a total size of 4655.00 GB.
It
> >> >> >> >>> has
> >> > 2
> >> >> >> >>> partitions:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> 39MB Dell Utilities Partition
> >> >> >> >>> 200GB System Boot Partition - C:\
> >> >> >> >>> For some reason Disk Management is showing the remaining
> >> > unallocated
> >> >> >> >>> space in 2 chunks instead of 1.So it shows the following:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> 1847.96GB Unallocated
> >> >> >> >>> 2607.00 GB Unallocated
> >> >> >> >>> Why is that? I want to create 1 big partition (D:\) with all
> >> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >> >>> remaining unallocated space and I cannot do that now.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> TIA!
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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