XP SP3 Details?

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I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list,
say by KB#?
Where?

Thanks

Jethro
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a
> list, say by KB#?
> Where?
>

I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, but it
is still a ways off AFAIK.

--
HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of Hotfixes
already issued and Security Updates.



HEMI-Powered wrote:
> Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour
> ...
>
>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a
>> list, say by KB#?
>> Where?
>>

> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, but it
> is still a ways off AFAIK.
 
Re: Re: XP SP3 Details?

Re: Re: XP SP3 Details?

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:50:00 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of Hotfixes
>already issued and Security Updates.
>
>
>
>HEMI-Powered wrote:
>> Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour
>> ...
>>
>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a
>>> list, say by KB#?
>>> Where?
>>>

>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, but it
>> is still a ways off AFAIK.

>

Thanks all

Jethro
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.


You seem to have the more common spelling of my name.

I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS
compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad
releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to
be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the
latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be
sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not
think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a
STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially
if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install
maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for
awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto
update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong
philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if
I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that
- then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not
install it on my present PC.

My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user
like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just
fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC,
probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for
multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista
because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very
expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps
that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even
run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach
Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until
I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences.

All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of
ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with
THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin>

>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such
>>> a list, say by KB#?
>>> Where?
>>>

>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.


--
HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: Re: XP SP3 Details?

Re: Re: XP SP3 Details?

Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

>>I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
>>Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.
>>
>>HEMI-Powered wrote:
>>> Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du
>>> jour ...
>>>
>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of
>>>> what 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there
>>>> such a list, say by KB#?
>>>> Where?
>>>>
>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.

>>

> Thanks all
>

Be wary and be careful, Jethro. See my other reply just now and
remember, never give Murphy an even break! Have a great day!

--
HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?


"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
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>I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list,
> say by KB#?
> Where?


There are certainly many rumours as to what it will contain. Of particular
interest is the draconian Digital Right Management that Vista is saddled
with. Some users will allegedly already have some of this if they have
allowed Windows Media Player 11 to be installed.

If your Windows XP SP2 does what you want, why change it?
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:26:47 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:

> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.




No. No date has been announced. Rumor has it that it will be early
next year. As with *any* rumor, don't bet the farm on it.


> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list,
> say by KB#?



No. No announcements have been made. It is reasonable to expect that
it will include as the post-SP2 updates, possibly plus some others.
We'll see when it happens. Anything before that is rumor, and again I
caution you not to depend on rumors.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Re: XP SP3 Details?

Exactly the reason I program my "Downloads" to be approved by this PC
owner--Moi! In a public discussion this week, more than 1/3 of those present
said they've bought IMacs b/c MS keeps coming out with new OS, et al, and
requiring its consumers to be their R&D. I agree. Its getting to be
exhausting. Wake up MS.
"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>
>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.

>
> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name.
>
> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS
> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad
> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to
> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the
> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be
> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not
> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a
> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially
> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install
> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for
> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto
> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong
> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if
> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that
> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not
> install it on my present PC.
>
> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user
> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just
> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC,
> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for
> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista
> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very
> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps
> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even
> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach
> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until
> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences.
>
> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of
> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with
> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin>
>
>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such
>>>> a list, say by KB#?
>>>> Where?
>>>>
>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.

>
> --
> HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

They are not likely to provide any enhancements. Many see the success of
XP as holding back sales of Vista. Microsoft would be foolish to enhance
XP if by doing so it reduces current and future cash flow.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HEMI-Powered wrote:
> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>
>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.

>
> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name.
>
> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS
> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad
> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to
> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the
> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be
> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not
> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a
> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially
> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install
> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for
> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto
> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong
> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if
> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that
> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not
> install it on my present PC.
>
> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user
> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just
> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC,
> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for
> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista
> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very
> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps
> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even
> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach
> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until
> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences.
>
> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of
> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with
> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin>
>
>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such
>>>> a list, say by KB#?
>>>> Where?
>>>>
>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Tom

Are they all Hotfixes? Many required by a few systems but not by many
systems?

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tom Porterfield wrote:
> Jethro wrote:
>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list,
>> say by KB#?
>> Where?

>
> The following query will give you some idea:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?spid=1173&query=kbwinxpsp3fix
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Imacs have just as many problems, perhaps even more, than Windows. But you
rarely hear about them because there are farther few of them.
"Laughingstar~*" <le_sentier_battunospam368@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23lQU5Jo3HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Exactly the reason I program my "Downloads" to be approved by this PC
> owner--Moi! In a public discussion this week, more than 1/3 of those
> present said they've bought IMacs b/c MS keeps coming out with new OS, et
> al, and requiring its consumers to be their R&D. I agree. Its getting to
> be exhausting. Wake up MS.
> "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
> news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
>> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>>
>>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
>>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.

>>
>> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name.
>>
>> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS
>> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad
>> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to
>> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the
>> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be
>> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not
>> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a
>> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially
>> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install
>> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for
>> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto
>> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong
>> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if
>> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that
>> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not
>> install it on my present PC.
>>
>> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user
>> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just
>> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC,
>> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for
>> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista
>> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very
>> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps
>> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even
>> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach
>> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until
>> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences.
>>
>> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of
>> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with
>> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin>
>>
>>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such
>>>>> a list, say by KB#?
>>>>> Where?
>>>>>
>>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.

>>
>> --
>> HP, aka Jerry

>
>
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be amazed that most
problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS programs, reg cleaners, and
virus detect/scan protection? programs.
"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>
>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.

>
> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name.
>
> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS
> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad
> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to
> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the
> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be
> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not
> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a
> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially
> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install
> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for
> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto
> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong
> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if
> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that
> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not
> install it on my present PC.
>
> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user
> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just
> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC,
> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for
> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista
> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very
> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps
> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even
> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach
> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until
> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences.
>
> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of
> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with
> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin>
>
>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such
>>>> a list, say by KB#?
>>>> Where?
>>>>
>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.

>
> --
> HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Those are the ones that haven't figured out that they are paying a premium
for Apple hardware, it's way overpriced. Have the best of both worlds,
10.4.9 on my P4 3.2 hyperthread.

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"Laughingstar~*" <le_sentier_battunospam368@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23lQU5Jo3HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Exactly the reason I program my "Downloads" to be approved by this PC
> owner--Moi! In a public discussion this week, more than 1/3 of those
> present said they've bought IMacs b/c MS keeps coming out with new OS, et
> al, and requiring its consumers to be their R&D. I agree. Its getting to
> be exhausting. Wake up MS.
> "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
> news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
>> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>>
>>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of
>>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates.

>>
>> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name.
>>
>> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS
>> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad
>> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to
>> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the
>> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be
>> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not
>> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a
>> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially
>> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install
>> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for
>> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto
>> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong
>> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if
>> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that
>> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not
>> install it on my present PC.
>>
>> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user
>> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just
>> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC,
>> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for
>> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista
>> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very
>> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps
>> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even
>> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach
>> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until
>> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences.
>>
>> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of
>> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with
>> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin>
>>
>>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS.
>>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what
>>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such
>>>>> a list, say by KB#?
>>>>> Where?
>>>>>
>>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some,
>>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.

>>
>> --
>> HP, aka Jerry

>
>
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

> Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be
> amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS
> programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection?
> programs.


That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at the hips
body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they must play ball
or risk losing their certification. But, it is certainly true that
reg cleaners in the hands of the novices will wreck an otherwise
good system and are more harm than good most of the time.

--
HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

Wed at the hips----------???? Supposing you wrote the OS. How would you
control it and/or keep your customers happy. Many companies write programs
to run with XP (the OS) and when a problem occurs, MS is immediately
blamed. Be objective.
"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
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> Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du jour
> ...
>
>> Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be
>> amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS
>> programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection?
>> programs.

>
> That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at the hips
> body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they must play ball
> or risk losing their certification. But, it is certainly true that
> reg cleaners in the hands of the novices will wreck an otherwise
> good system and are more harm than good most of the time.
>
> --
> HP, aka Jerry
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?



"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>


>
> No. No announcements have been made. It is reasonable to expect that
> it will include as the post-SP2 updates, possibly plus some others.
> We'll see when it happens. Anything before that is rumor, and again I
> caution you not to depend on rumors.



"SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008.
This date is preliminary."

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?


"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote in message
news:46C20762.D9699D71@NEWSGROUPS.COM...
| "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008.
| This date is preliminary."
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx

BTW, this is the third change MS has made to the date for SP3. And, they
always say it's preliminary ;-)
 
Re: XP SP3 Details?

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:49:54 +0100, ANONYMOUS
<ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote:

>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >

>
> >
> > No. No announcements have been made. It is reasonable to expect that
> > it will include as the post-SP2 updates, possibly plus some others.
> > We'll see when it happens. Anything before that is rumor, and again I
> > caution you not to depend on rumors.

>
>
> "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008.
> This date is preliminary."



> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx




As I said, no announcement has been made. "Currently planned" and
"preliminary" does not amount to an announcement. It is very common
that such dates turn out not to be met.

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