Windows Vista Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

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I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
information that you may need to see or select. I called their
support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
to see fonts, ridiculous.

I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
poor programming practises because every window the program opens
should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:r10ne4pv254qisbrv0jplla3e601us1ti3@4ax.com...
>I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>
> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?

Define hard.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

Alfred Kaufmann <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:r10ne4pv254qisbrv0jplla3e601us1ti3@4ax.com:

> I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>
> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?

It is not a trivial thing.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
> I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>
> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>
> Al
>
I agree that this is poor programming practice. Whether your letter will
get any action from the software vendor is problematic. They'd probably
have to receive a lot of complaints before they would do anything.

One approach would be a batch program that would reset your font to 96
dpi before starting your Simply Accounting program and change it back to
120 dpi after you are finished using it.

Bill
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:44:25 -0700, Alfred Kaufmann
<al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
>able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
>scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
>great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
>this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
>gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
>information that you may need to see or select. I called their
>support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
>and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
>this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
>to see fonts, ridiculous.
>
>I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
>poor programming practises because every window the program opens
>should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
>required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
>a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
>and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>
>Al
>

When you increase DPI size you in effect zoom in which is probably
causing the scroll bars and other controls to move out of range. In
other words they are there, but you can't see them. To confirm this is
the problem, can you see the scroll bars and other controls when
viewing the application at the default 96 DPI setting?

I would wager your actual problem is really your monitor settings or
your monitor just isn't that great a quality. Most every LCD flat
screen has a native resolution. I have a 24 inch LCD who's native
resolution is 1920x1200. I can see small text 6 points, even smaller
easily and it is crisp and razor sharp. If you can't, then sorry, it
is either you're trying to run the monitor at something less then it's
ideal resolution which will might cause text to appear fuzzy, your
graphic card isn't set to the correct resolution or your eyesight
needs to be checked. Hey, I'm past 60, my eyesight isn't what it used
to be either, still I can easily read small text on my monitor from
several feet away without straining and I do it all day long.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:56:08 -0400, "Duane Hebert" <spoo@flarn.com>
wrote:

>"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:r10ne4pv254qisbrv0jplla3e601us1ti3@4ax.com...
>>I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
>> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
>> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
>> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
>> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
>> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
>> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
>> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
>> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
>> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
>> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>>
>> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
>> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
>> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
>> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
>> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
>> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>
>Define hard.
>
>
Hard to do. :-) Can I say that small type is much harder to read than
the bigger type?

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?


"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:r10ne4pv254qisbrv0jplla3e601us1ti3@4ax.com...
> I don't think it would be hard for
> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>

Without looking at the code, in question, I can't say whether your opinion
is
right or wrong. I would suggest you send an email asking for this feature
and see what they
say in reply.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

Going back and redoing an application would be a fair amount of work. This
is really the sort of thing they should of thought about while they were
building the application. I'd certainly write to them asking for a DPI
aware version. Some computers are shipping at 120 DPI by default nowadays.

You could try the new DPI scaling to force Windows to take the 96 DPI app,
and resize it to 120 DPI. However that will result in the application
looking blurry. (It's the same technique as resizing an image, only Windows
will do it on the fly).

You can enable that by going to DPI settings, and clicking Custom DPI down
the bottom, on the next page there is a check box for 'Use Windows XP style
scaling'. If you uncheck that Windows will scale applications that aren't
DPI aware automatically (at the cost of making them blurry), regardless of
that, applications should be DPI aware.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:r10ne4pv254qisbrv0jplla3e601us1ti3@4ax.com...
>I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>
> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>
> Al
>
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:01:56 +0000 (UTC), DanS
<t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote:

>Alfred Kaufmann <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:r10ne4pv254qisbrv0jplla3e601us1ti3@4ax.com:
>
>> I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
>> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
>> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
>> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
>> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
>> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
>> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
>> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
>> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
>> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
>> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>>
>> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
>> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
>> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
>> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
>> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
>> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>
>It is not a trivial thing.

Most of their windows which I use 99% of the time do have the standard
gadgets to scoll or resize the windows so they know how to do it and
there is probably a standard library routine to specify how a window
should open and which gadgets it should have. I think their
pragrammers just got lazy and did not think about this was necessary
for all the windows their program opens, afterall it worked fine on
their machine.

My workaround now is to only set the dpi to the standard 96dpi when
required. Thankfully this does not happen often.

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:11:05 -0700, Bill Sharpe
<wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote:

>Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
>> I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
>> able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
>> scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
>> great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
>> this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
>> gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
>> information that you may need to see or select. I called their
>> support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
>> and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
>> this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
>> to see fonts, ridiculous.
>>
>> I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
>> poor programming practises because every window the program opens
>> should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
>> required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
>> a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
>> and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>>
>> Al
>>
>I agree that this is poor programming practice. Whether your letter will
>get any action from the software vendor is problematic. They'd probably
>have to receive a lot of complaints before they would do anything.
>
>One approach would be a batch program that would reset your font to 96
>dpi before starting your Simply Accounting program and change it back to
>120 dpi after you are finished using it.
>

Thanks for that suggestion, but changing the dpi requires a restart.
:-( I will do this manually when required, luckily this does not
happen often as most of their windows do have the standard gadgets.

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qn2ne4druqaaeial9ue562s0ee556afm9r@4ax.com...

>>Define hard.
>>
>>
> Hard to do. :-) Can I say that small type is much harder to read than
> the bigger type?

No I mean how do you define hard WRT implementing these
changes? How big is their code base and how much
would these changes affect it?

How much would you pay as a user to offset
their costs? How indicative are you and your concerns of
their customer base?

That's not to say that the software shouldn't act as
you expect it would. We write software and our
design includes this requirement.

Complain to them and see what they say. Maybe they
have a future release scheduled with this feature.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
news:081ne417dfesennn4dnjrkcii5r9bom4m9@4ax.com...

> When you increase DPI size you in effect zoom in which is probably
> causing the scroll bars and other controls to move out of range. In
> other words they are there, but you can't see them. To confirm this is
> the problem, can you see the scroll bars and other controls when
> viewing the application at the default 96 DPI setting?

What's happening application is font-size aware but not DPI aware. It will
increase its fonts at 120 DPI, but not its UI as a result the text doesn't
properly fit within its window.

If the developer locked its font size with its UI than the application would
still work, albeit at a lower resolution and as a result would look smaller
than other applications.

> I would wager your actual problem is really your monitor settings or
> your monitor just isn't that great a quality.

Nonsense.

> Most every LCD flat
> screen has a native resolution. I have a 24 inch LCD who's native
> resolution is 1920x1200.

I have a 24 inch screen which is also 1920x1200. The native DPI of the
screen is 96, the Windows default. So I run that screen at 96 DPI. If the
resolution of the screen was 3840x2400 the native DPI would be about 192
DPI. Now we can either have lots of tiny looking applications on that
screen, or we can use the proper DPI to scale those applications to the
actual size they are meant to be. As a result the fonts and applications
would look gorgeous because of the number of pixels used to draw them.

I also have a 12 inch screen on my Tablet PC which is 1440x1050. It's
native DPI is around 144 - I run that machine at 120 DPI.

Some of us want to move into an age where we have very high pixel density
screens. We won't be able to do that while we have application developers
not bothering to support anything other than 96 DPI.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:14:12 -0500, Ringmaster
<bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:44:25 -0700, Alfred Kaufmann
><al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
>>able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
>>scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
>>great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
>>this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
>>gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
>>information that you may need to see or select. I called their
>>support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
>>and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
>>this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
>>to see fonts, ridiculous.
>>
>>I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
>>poor programming practises because every window the program opens
>>should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
>>required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
>>a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
>>and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>>
>>Al
>>
>
>When you increase DPI size you in effect zoom in which is probably
>causing the scroll bars and other controls to move out of range. In
>other words they are there, but you can't see them. To confirm this is
>the problem, can you see the scroll bars and other controls when
>viewing the application at the default 96 DPI setting?

There are no scroll bars or other gadgets but then all the information
in the window is displayed.

>
>I would wager your actual problem is really your monitor settings or
>your monitor just isn't that great a quality. Most every LCD flat
>screen has a native resolution. I have a 24 inch LCD who's native
>resolution is 1920x1200. I can see small text 6 points, even smaller
>easily and it is crisp and razor sharp. If you can't, then sorry, it
>is either you're trying to run the monitor at something less then it's
>ideal resolution which will might cause text to appear fuzzy, your
>graphic card isn't set to the correct resolution or your eyesight
>needs to be checked. Hey, I'm past 60, my eyesight isn't what it used
>to be either, still I can easily read small text on my monitor from
>several feet away without straining and I do it all day long.

I have my 24" Samsung set to 1920x1200 and the 8800GTS video card,
while not at the top of the class, is certainly sufficient to do an
excellent job. If I put on reading glasses the text is very crisp
and clear. However there is no reason for me to put on reading
glasses if I can make the text a bit larger. Computers are there to
make your life easier.

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:40:59 -0400, "Duane Hebert" <spoo@flarn.com>
wrote:

>"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:qn2ne4druqaaeial9ue562s0ee556afm9r@4ax.com...
>
>>>Define hard.
>>>
>>>
>> Hard to do. :-) Can I say that small type is much harder to read than
>> the bigger type?
>
>No I mean how do you define hard WRT implementing these
>changes? How big is their code base and how much
>would these changes affect it?
>
>How much would you pay as a user to offset
>their costs? How indicative are you and your concerns of
>their customer base?
>
>That's not to say that the software shouldn't act as
>you expect it would. We write software and our
>design includes this requirement.
>
>Complain to them and see what they say. Maybe they
>have a future release scheduled with this feature.

I don't think it would be hard for them to make the changes, most of
their windows do open with the proper gadgets. It is only the windows
that are not used very often that have this problem. I consider that
a bug, I should not have to make changes in the operating system just
to accomodate their application.

I don't think calling their support department helps, a letter may at
least get to their programming department. They did suggest the
standard DPI setting and instructions on a utility to correct certain
display problems. The first suggestion works and second, bombed.

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?


"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nr4ne4dnpvsi59hcc6bvclorr707im5jv6@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:40:59 -0400, "Duane Hebert" <spoo@flarn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:qn2ne4druqaaeial9ue562s0ee556afm9r@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>Define hard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hard to do. :-) Can I say that small type is much harder to read than
>>> the bigger type?
>>
>>No I mean how do you define hard WRT implementing these
>>changes? How big is their code base and how much
>>would these changes affect it?
>>
>>How much would you pay as a user to offset
>>their costs? How indicative are you and your concerns of
>>their customer base?
>>
>>That's not to say that the software shouldn't act as
>>you expect it would. We write software and our
>>design includes this requirement.
>>
>>Complain to them and see what they say. Maybe they
>>have a future release scheduled with this feature.
>
> I don't think it would be hard for them to make the changes, most of
> their windows do open with the proper gadgets. It is only the windows
> that are not used very often that have this problem. I consider that
> a bug, I should not have to make changes in the operating system just
> to accomodate their application.
>
> I don't think calling their support department helps, a letter may at
> least get to their programming department. They did suggest the
> standard DPI setting and instructions on a utility to correct certain
> display problems. The first suggestion works and second, bombed.
>
> Al
>
Then stop using their products
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:31:27 +0100, "Paul Smith"
<Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote:

>Going back and redoing an application would be a fair amount of work. This
>is really the sort of thing they should of thought about while they were
>building the application. I'd certainly write to them asking for a DPI
>aware version. Some computers are shipping at 120 DPI by default nowadays.

I will write them, their windows should consistent.

>
>You could try the new DPI scaling to force Windows to take the 96 DPI app,
>and resize it to 120 DPI. However that will result in the application
>looking blurry. (It's the same technique as resizing an image, only Windows
>will do it on the fly).
>
>You can enable that by going to DPI settings, and clicking Custom DPI down
>the bottom, on the next page there is a check box for 'Use Windows XP style
>scaling'. If you uncheck that Windows will scale applications that aren't
>DPI aware automatically (at the cost of making them blurry), regardless of
>that, applications should be DPI aware.

I just tested that, set to 120dpi and unchecked the 'Use Windows XP
style scaling' and it made no difference. I am using Vista Home
Premium 64Bit SP1. I know that some programs have problems dealing
with the 64 bit operating system.

Al
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>Complain to them and see what they say. Maybe they
>>have a future release scheduled with this feature.
>
> I don't think it would be hard for them to make the changes, most of
> their windows do open with the proper gadgets. It is only the windows
> that are not used very often that have this problem. I consider that
> a bug, I should not have to make changes in the operating system just
> to accomodate their application.

My point is that it's difficult to know how
much work you're talking about. It's probably
not likely that this is just something that a programmer
overlooked. While that's possible, it may be that in
the cases that it doesn't work, there is a reason that you
don't see.

Send the letter.
If it's as trivial a fix as you think, they will likely do it.
If not, you can always look for a different supplier.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:50:08 +0400, Alfred Kaufmann <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Computers are there to
> make your life easier.

that is big philosophical error. ;)

--
Andrew Rybenkov

Opera 9.27.8841 ROCKS on WindowsME, and Vista-32 SP1
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

"Andrew Rybenkov" <arybenkov@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:50:08 +0400, Alfred Kaufmann
> <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Computers are there to
>> make your life easier.
>
> that is big philosophical error. ;)
>

I remember all the labor saving devices we were supposed to get when
technology took off. Now we have to go to the gym after work. My
great-great grandfather would no doubt have laughed at this.

--
Earle Horton -- earleh@terra.comx
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:59:39 -0600, "Earle Horton" <earleh@terra.comx>
wrote:

>"Andrew Rybenkov" <arybenkov@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:op.uin3met6owpbh0@awg...
>> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:50:08 +0400, Alfred Kaufmann
>> <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Computers are there to
>>> make your life easier.
>>
>> that is big philosophical error. ;)
>>
>
>I remember all the labor saving devices we were supposed to get when
>technology took off. Now we have to go to the gym after work. My
>great-great grandfather would no doubt have laughed at this.

We were originally told by some that computers would force a lot of
people out of work. The fact is it created whole new sectors of
employment, many now earn above average wages because of it. We were
told computers would greatly reduce the use of paper. That didn't
happen either.

I was listening to CNBC early this morning. One guest said in the
United States the service sector now accounts for 70% of total
employment, yet the manufacturing sector while having far less
employees than 50 years ago on a percentage basis due to rapid
advances in technology produces more or less the same output. Its
called progress.
 
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