Windows Vista Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

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Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

Alfred Kaufmann <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:31:27 +0100, "Paul Smith"
> <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote:
>
>>Going back and redoing an application would be a fair amount of work.
>>This is really the sort of thing they should of thought about while
>>they were building the application. I'd certainly write to them
>>asking for a DPI aware version. Some computers are shipping at 120
>>DPI by default nowadays.
>
> I will write them, their windows should consistent.
>
>>
>>You could try the new DPI scaling to force Windows to take the 96 DPI
>>app, and resize it to 120 DPI. However that will result in the
>>application looking blurry. (It's the same technique as resizing an
>>image, only Windows will do it on the fly).
>>
>>You can enable that by going to DPI settings, and clicking Custom DPI
>>down the bottom, on the next page there is a check box for 'Use
>>Windows XP style scaling'. If you uncheck that Windows will scale
>>applications that aren't DPI aware automatically (at the cost of
>>making them blurry), regardless of that, applications should be DPI
>>aware.
>
> I just tested that, set to 120dpi and unchecked the 'Use Windows XP
> style scaling' and it made no difference. I am using Vista Home
> Premium 64Bit SP1. I know that some programs have problems dealing
> with the 64 bit operating system.
>
> Al
>

You never did say if the program has a 'Fonts' section in the options.

Instead of changing the overall DPI of the system, I'd tend to increase
the font sizes in the apps themselves, then there's never a problem with
DPI.

I'd also do the same thing with the Windows elements themselves...go into
the display properties -> 'Appearance' (or whatever it's called now) ->
'Advanced', and increase the icons a few ticks, the icon font (which is
the desktop icons font and what is seen in Explorer, the menu font,
msgbox font, titlebar & titlebar font (if you wanted that too) and you'd
be all set. Then increase the font size in your apps.

But that's me.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?


"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:14:12 -0500, Ringmaster
> <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:44:25 -0700, Alfred Kaufmann
>><al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am running Vista SP1 and I bought a large LCD display so that I am
>>>able to personalize the display to make the text more readable by
>>>scale the font to 120dpi from the standard 96 dpi. Everything works
>>>great with all my applications until I installed Simply Accounting;
>>>this program opens some windows that do not have scroll bars or the
>>>gadgets to resize the window. This makes it impossible to view
>>>information that you may need to see or select. I called their
>>>support and they suggested I scale the font back to the 96dpi standard
>>>and this does work, their windows then display all the information but
>>>this affects my entire system and every application now has tiny hard
>>>to see fonts, ridiculous.
>>>
>>>I want to send Simply Accounting a letter telling that they are using
>>>poor programming practises because every window the program opens
>>>should have the standard gadgets to resize the window and to scroll if
>>>required to view the whole window. I don't think it would be hard for
>>>a competent programmer to go through the code, make the corrections
>>>and re-compile this application. Am I right in with this opinion?
>>>
>>>Al
>>>
>>
>>When you increase DPI size you in effect zoom in which is probably
>>causing the scroll bars and other controls to move out of range. In
>>other words they are there, but you can't see them. To confirm this is
>>the problem, can you see the scroll bars and other controls when
>>viewing the application at the default 96 DPI setting?
>
> There are no scroll bars or other gadgets but then all the information
> in the window is displayed.
>
>>
>>I would wager your actual problem is really your monitor settings or
>>your monitor just isn't that great a quality. Most every LCD flat
>>screen has a native resolution. I have a 24 inch LCD who's native
>>resolution is 1920x1200. I can see small text 6 points, even smaller
>>easily and it is crisp and razor sharp. If you can't, then sorry, it
>>is either you're trying to run the monitor at something less then it's
>>ideal resolution which will might cause text to appear fuzzy, your
>>graphic card isn't set to the correct resolution or your eyesight
>>needs to be checked. Hey, I'm past 60, my eyesight isn't what it used
>>to be either, still I can easily read small text on my monitor from
>>several feet away without straining and I do it all day long.
>
> I have my 24" Samsung set to 1920x1200 and the 8800GTS video card,
> while not at the top of the class, is certainly sufficient to do an
> excellent job. If I put on reading glasses the text is very crisp
> and clear. However there is no reason for me to put on reading
> glasses if I can make the text a bit larger. Computers are there to
> make your life easier.
>
> Al


Oh boy, Al! I was with you until this; I have great distance vision but with
age, now need to wear reading glasses for smaller print. With what my
ophthalmologist calls 'cheaters' readily available for $16 or so, I have
several pair around the house. That includes a pair with a half-glasses
shape that I use when I'm on the computer (which is in the same room as our
TV; it's fuzzy with the cheaters on). Makes it super east - look down for
computer, look up for TV and the rest of the world.

Much better than trying to change my 22" LCD display to something other than
its proper resolution.
Lesley
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

> I remember all the labor saving devices we were supposed to get when
> technology took off. Now we have to go to the gym after work. My
> great-great grandfather would no doubt have laughed at this.

You could have waved at him laughing and trotting along in his buggy on the
way to town,
while you were on the way back in your car. Technology is fine and saves
work, IF you know how to use it.
Not bothering and blaming some thing or someone else because you failed to
lean what you are doing is not proper
use of technology :) But, then you knew that.



Rich
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

Rich wrote:

>> I remember all the labor saving devices we were supposed to get when
>> technology took off. Now we have to go to the gym after work. My
>> great-great grandfather would no doubt have laughed at this.
> --------------------------------------

More than likely, if he had an sense at all, he would have disowned an
idiot moron big mouthed PIG like you.
 
Re: Poor Programming when Windows cannot be resized?

Rich wrote:

>> I remember all the labor saving devices we were supposed to get when
>> technology took off. Now we have to go to the gym after work. My
>> great-great grandfather would no doubt have laughed at this.
> --------------------------------------

More than likely, if he had any sense at all, he would have disowned an
idiot moron big mouthed PIG like you.
 
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