Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

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I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
partition small enough to be in a condition where
it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
Registry and a re-boot?


Thanks,
Bill
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image
from the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you will
be able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your partitions.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

Later, Ray Parrish

Bill wrote:
> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> partition small enough to be in a condition where
> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> Registry and a re-boot?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>


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Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main
system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition?
But of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with
something like Partition Magic.

Bill wrote:
> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> partition small enough to be in a condition where
> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> Registry and a re-boot?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Do not move the pagefile to another partition on the same drive. This will
cause performance degradation. You will only benefit from moving it to a
second drive.

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"Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> wrote in message
news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net...
>I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> partition small enough to be in a condition where
> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> Registry and a re-boot?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Ray,
It doesn't appear that GParted will solve my problem, in
that what I need to do is what GParted says can't normally
be done. I.e., make one partition larger while making the
adjacent partition smaller.

From GParted:
A hard disk is usually subdivided into one or more partitions.
These partitions are normally not re-sizable (making one smaller
and the adjacent one larger). The purpose of GParted is to allow
the individual to take a hard disk and change the partition
organization therein, while preserving the partition contents.

Bill



"Ray Parrish" <crp@cmc.net> wrote in message
news:esserhLOJHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image from
> the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you will be
> able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your partitions.
>
> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
>
> Later, Ray Parrish
>
> Bill wrote:
>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>
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Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Bill,
"partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a
limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also
want $70 for their package, an amount that would
be too much to pay for a one-time fix.
Thanks,
Bill



"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main
>system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition? But
>of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with something
>like Partition Magic.
>
> Bill wrote:
>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>
>
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

You can force a defrag of a partition even with limited free space with
"defrag c: -f" in the command prompt.

This application can resize partitions and it's free
EASEUS Partition Manager Personal 1.6.4


How to move the paging file in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307886

Move the paging file to another area
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-2000/move-the-paging-file-to-another-are/64014.html


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"Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> escribió en el mensaje
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>I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> partition small enough to be in a condition where
> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> Registry and a re-boot?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

That must be for an older version of Partition Magic, or else that doc is
out of date. I'm using version 8.0, which works with larger drives. (I
have a 250 GB drive here).

Another option (cheaper) is BootItNG, but it isn't quite as "user-friendly".

And of course for any such non-destructive partition resizing, you need to
be very careful and read its documentation carefully. (and some backups
would be ideal, as usual)


Bill wrote:
> Bill,
> "partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a
> limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also
> want $70 for their package, an amount that would
> be too much to pay for a one-time fix.
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main
>> system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that partition?
>> But
>> of course you can always resize the partitions, if desired, with
>> something
>> like Partition Magic.
>>
>> Bill wrote:
>>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes
more sense to have it on a different drive.
--
Mad Mike

"Bill in Co." wrote:

>I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main
>system partition (C:).
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Post in your own name, you gutless p*ick.
--
Mad Mike


"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes
> more sense to have it on a different drive.
> --
> Mad Mike
>
> "Bill in Co." wrote:
>
> >I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main
> >system partition (C:).

>
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

"Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> wrote in message
news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net...
>I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> partition small enough to be in a condition where
> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> Registry and a re-boot?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>


The method that I use for moving the pagefile to another partition is as
follows:
Control panel
System
Advanced tab
Performance settings
Advanced tab
Virtual memory change
Highlight the partition letter where you want the pagefile located, select
system managed size, click "Set"
Highlight the partition "C", select No paging file, click "Set".
Restart the PC for the above changes to take effect. I take no position on
moving the paging file regarding performance. I take no position regarding
best size of paging file, or if system managed size is appropriate. Both
"best" location and size are dependent on information not provided by the
OP.

Typically, if the C: partition is to be resized, it must be done from a 3rd
party partitioning software that does not operate within the XP environment
since the OP did not provide that information. I am assuming all of XP is
installed in the C: partition. As far as appropriate 3rd party partitioning
software for that purpose, being relatively up to date, it depends if your
partition(s) are NTFS type 3, or FAT32. Of which, that information was not
provided by the OP.
--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

But what the OP was actually planning on doing was moving to a partition
on the same drive, so not different drive at all, only drive letter.

Mick Murphy wrote:

> You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes
> more sense to have it on a different drive.
> --
> Mad Mike
>
> "Bill in Co." wrote:
>
>
>>I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the main
>>system partition (C:).
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Also suggest setting a fixed size (min = max) = 2 x RAM


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"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
news:uoYDWVNOJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> "Bill" <billstanton@psln.com> wrote in message
> news:t8SdnSGf9dJwCpvUnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@trueband.net...
> >I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> > idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> > partition small enough to be in a condition where
> > it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> > bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> > the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> > Registry and a re-boot?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >

>
> The method that I use for moving the pagefile to another partition is as
> follows:
> Control panel
> System
> Advanced tab
> Performance settings
> Advanced tab
> Virtual memory change
> Highlight the partition letter where you want the pagefile located, select
> system managed size, click "Set"
> Highlight the partition "C", select No paging file, click "Set".
> Restart the PC for the above changes to take effect. I take no position on
> moving the paging file regarding performance. I take no position regarding
> best size of paging file, or if system managed size is appropriate. Both
> "best" location and size are dependent on information not provided by the
> OP.
>
> Typically, if the C: partition is to be resized, it must be done from a 3rd
> party partitioning software that does not operate within the XP environment
> since the OP did not provide that information. I am assuming all of XP is
> installed in the C: partition. As far as appropriate 3rd party partitioning
> software for that purpose, being relatively up to date, it depends if your
> partition(s) are NTFS type 3, or FAT32. Of which, that information was not
> provided by the OP.
> --
> Dave
>
> If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
> a cantaloupe.
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

> Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image
> from the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you
> will be able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your
> partitions.
> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php


BUT, as always, BACK UP FIRST! Just in case. Stuff happens.

>
> Later, Ray Parrish
>
> Bill wrote:
>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

> You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes
> more sense to have it on a different drive.
>
>> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the
>> main system partition (C:).


No. It can sometimes help, not always noticeably, to have it on another
PHYSICAL hard drive, but moving it to a different drive letter on the
same physican drive can actually slow things down noticeably. Get your
facts straight, poser!
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
> partition small enough to be in a condition where
> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
> Registry and a re-boot?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


You use a selection in options, amongst other ways, to move or size the
pagefile. However, moving the pagefile to another drive letter on the
same physical drive is most likely going to cause a noticeable and
*annoying* slowdown in your machine.
If that's acceptable, use:
Start; Settings; control panel; and click on System icon.
Then choose the Advance tab, and click the top Settings button in the
Performance rectangle.
In Settings Performance Options, in the Virtual Memory rectangle, click
on Change.
Now select the drive you want, and click Let Windows Manage ... , click
SET.
Select drive C, and set it for NO swap file. Click SET
N O T E : If you don't click SET, nothing happens. YOu must click SET
for EACH drive you change!!

OK your way out and restart.
--------------------

You could also simply kill the pagefile and restart before doing a
defrag.
-------------------

But neither of those are very good solutions and at best are simply
bandaids to cover up a problem.
You really need a larger hard drive. Hard drives are very cheap these
days and getting a second one is your absolute best solution long term.
Right now you have zero room for any kind of expansion on your boot
drive. NOTHING here or in any of the posts so far is going to give you
anything but a temporary respite from your problems.
UNLESS you have gobs of room on the second partition. But you didn't
give any details so I'm not going to guess at what other solutions may
be viable. When you provide usable information then more functional
answers can be provided.

--

How to Post a newsgroup
question effectively:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive


"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:eKAViJROJHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill

>
> You use a selection in options, amongst other ways, to move or size the
> pagefile. However, moving the pagefile to another drive letter on the
> same physical drive is most likely going to cause a noticeable and
> *annoying* slowdown in your machine.
> If that's acceptable, use:
> Start; Settings; control panel; and click on System icon.
> Then choose the Advance tab, and click the top Settings button in the
> Performance rectangle.
> In Settings Performance Options, in the Virtual Memory rectangle, click on
> Change.
> Now select the drive you want, and click Let Windows Manage ... , click
> SET.
> Select drive C, and set it for NO swap file. Click SET
> N O T E : If you don't click SET, nothing happens. YOu must click SET for
> EACH drive you change!!
>
> OK your way out and restart.
> --------------------
>
> You could also simply kill the pagefile and restart before doing a defrag.
> -------------------
>
> But neither of those are very good solutions and at best are simply
> bandaids to cover up a problem.
> You really need a larger hard drive. Hard drives are very cheap these
> days and getting a second one is your absolute best solution long term.
> Right now you have zero room for any kind of expansion on your boot drive.
> NOTHING here or in any of the posts so far is going to give you anything
> but a temporary respite from your problems.
> UNLESS you have gobs of room on the second partition. But you didn't
> give any details so I'm not going to guess at what other solutions may be
> viable. When you provide usable information then more functional answers
> can be provided.
>
> --
>
> How to Post a newsgroup
> question effectively:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375


The drive is 120GB. And yes, there's "gobs of room" on the 2nd partition.
I'm in California and the "offending" computer is in Connecticut, so I'm not
in a position to resolve the problem more appropriately. I've managed to
help "Connecticut" to move every non-system folder to their larger partition
so that ONLY system files "come and go" on their "C" drive. We finally got
the
"C" partition defragged to where there's 1.88GB free and we'll see how
things
go.

One thing I stumbled upon was an enormous "Temp" folder in the users "Local
Settings", like 2GB. What's with that? Those files didn't seem to be
associated with
temporary Internet files that "Connecticut" purges on a regular basis. It
would seem,
by definition, that those files could be deleted when there were no
applications
running, save system oriented processes.

Thanks,
Bill
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Bill

There are no third party freeware partition managers. You can get
shareware for periods up to 30 days. BootIt NG is one example:
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-bootit-next-generation.htm

I use BootIt NG. It does not have the easiest user interface but the
videos on the web site are helpful.

Without resizing partitions you can create more free space in C by
carrying any of the measures suggested below.

The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

A default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet
files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The
default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline
copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select
Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to
make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is
held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.

If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System
Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to
existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is
written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file.

The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large.
Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to
overwrite.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of
folders.

For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet
Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder.

To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express
Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change.
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm

How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147

You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft
Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word
go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on
Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General
and change default file path.

My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders
including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated
using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to
see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change
Location button.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Bill wrote:
> Bill,
> "partition Magic" documentation indicates it has a
> limit of 80GB HDA's. Mine is 120GB. They also
> want $70 for their package, an amount that would
> be too much to pay for a one-time fix.
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OKIuNiLOJHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the
>> main system partition (C:). Why can't you run a Defrag on that
>> partition? But of course you can always resize the partitions, if
>> desired, with something like Partition Magic.
>>
>> Bill wrote:
>>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Twayne wrote:
>> You would! Everybody else KNOWS that it makes
>> more sense to have it on a different drive.
>>
>>> I think it makes much more sense to keep the system pagefile on the
>>> main system partition (C:).

>
> No. It can sometimes help, not always noticeably, to have it on another
> PHYSICAL hard drive, but moving it to a different drive letter on the
> same physican drive can actually slow things down noticeably. Get your
> facts straight, poser!


Ummm, if you actually read what I wrote, I said keep it there on the same
drive - the system drive (and partition), and nothing about "moving it to a
different drive letter". Reading 101.
 
Re: Move "pagefile.sys" to a different drive

Gee, that's funny as I have used it for exactly that purpose on my
machine with no problems.

If you'll read the stuff you pasted in from GParted it says "normally
not re-sizable" [implied "without their software"] and "the purpose of
GParted is to *allow* [snip] change the partition" in other words
GParted does just that, it allows you to re-size partitions.

Any good partition manager will do this as well. Partition Magic is one
from Symantec, but it's not free.

Later, Ray Parrish

Bill wrote:
> Ray,
> It doesn't appear that GParted will solve my problem, in
> that what I need to do is what GParted says can't normally
> be done. I.e., make one partition larger while making the
> adjacent partition smaller.
>
> From GParted:
> A hard disk is usually subdivided into one or more partitions.
> These partitions are normally not re-sizable (making one smaller
> and the adjacent one larger). The purpose of GParted is to allow
> the individual to take a hard disk and change the partition
> organization therein, while preserving the partition contents.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> "Ray Parrish" <crp@cmc.net> wrote in message
> news:esserhLOJHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Why not just re-size the partitions... Get the GParted Live CD image from
>> the following link and burn it to CD. Now boot from it and you will be
>> able to use GParted to do a non-destructive re-sizing of your partitions.
>>
>> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
>>
>> Later, Ray Parrish
>>
>> Bill wrote:
>>> I have a partitioned drive that was allocated by an
>>> idiot, so it's a major pain to keep the smaller (c:)
>>> partition small enough to be in a condition where
>>> it's possible to run a defrag. It would help quite a
>>> bit if I could move my pagefile to the second of
>>> the two partitions. Is that a simple change in the
>>> Registry and a re-boot?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill

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>
>


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