Recommend a Security Suite

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Re: Recommend a Security Suite

I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
months now! No impact on system. Good value for two licences

VG
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel"
> <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
>
>> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.
>
>
> Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all.
>
>
>
>> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
>> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>> >for
>> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>> >
>> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can
>> > buy
>> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>> > anti-spyware
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've
>> > tried
>> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for
>> > a
>> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>> >
>> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
>> > software?
>> >
>> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>> >
>> > Thanks
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

ok thanks, i think i'll go out and do some research on my own on AVG,
kasperky, and zonealarm.

"VistaGeek" <vista.geek@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
>months now! No impact on system. Good value for two licences
>
> VG
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:28jrd3hn7tqotjvt3udp57l4vaue6i743k@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel"
>> <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.
>>
>>
>> Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
>>> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my
>>> >recently
>>> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>> >for
>>> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>> >
>>> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can
>>> > buy
>>> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>>> > anti-spyware
>>> > etc.
>>> >
>>> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've
>>> > tried
>>> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton
>>> > for a
>>> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>>> >
>>> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
>>> > software?
>>> >
>>> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:13:29 +0100, "VistaGeek"
<vista.geek@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
> months now!


Your choice, of course. My view is that no matter how well something
works, it's always possible that something else could work better.
Just because you haven't had any problems with it doesn't mean it's
the best possible choice.


> No impact on system.


But that's flat out impossible. Anything you run has an impact on
system performance. Some things have more of an impact than others,
and some have a small enough impact on performance that you don't
notice it. But nothing has a zero impact.

In this case, I would suspect that the impact is greater than you
realize.


> Good value for two licences


Perhaps. A much better value is freeware. And there's lots of good
freeware around to compete with it.



> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:28jrd3hn7tqotjvt3udp57l4vaue6i743k@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel"
> > <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.
> >
> >
> > Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all.
> >
> >
> >
> >> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
> >> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
> >> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
> >> >for
> >> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
> >> >
> >> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can
> >> > buy
> >> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
> >> > anti-spyware
> >> > etc.
> >> >
> >> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've
> >> > tried
> >> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for
> >> > a
> >> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
> >> >
> >> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
> >> > software?
> >> >
> >> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

"razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for
>the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>
> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware
> etc.
>
> I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
> those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
> while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>
> Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
> software?
>
> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>
> Thanks


I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
Here's my take on it:

1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
2) Takes too much control away from the user.
3) Too ponderous.
4) Too complicated.

Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
even install under Vista).
2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than a
unified Security Suite.
5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

Donald McDaniel
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite


"Donald McDaniel" <orthocross@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
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> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
>>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>
>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>> anti-spyware etc.
>>
>> I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
>> those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
>> while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>>
>> Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
>> software?
>>
>> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
> Here's my take on it:
>
> 1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
> 2) Takes too much control away from the user.
> 3) Too ponderous.
> 4) Too complicated.
>
> Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
> 1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
> even install under Vista).
> 2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
> 3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
> 4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than
> a unified Security Suite.
> 5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!
>
> Donald McDaniel

Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32 companie's
website?
ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite


"razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Donald McDaniel" <orthocross@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
> news:2D06E851-1F0D-4463-8D93-A9A17377FECA@microsoft.com...
>> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
>>>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>>>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>>for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>>
>>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
>>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>>> anti-spyware etc.
>>>
>>> I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
>>> those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for
>>> a while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>>>
>>> Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
>>> software?
>>>
>>> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
>> Here's my take on it:
>>
>> 1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
>> 2) Takes too much control away from the user.
>> 3) Too ponderous.
>> 4) Too complicated.
>>
>> Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
>> 1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
>> even install under Vista).
>> 2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
>> 3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
>> 4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution
>> than a unified Security Suite.
>> 5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!
>>
>> Donald McDaniel
>
> Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32
> companie's website?
> ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software

and does anyone know when that security suite (Eset or NOD32 Suite) will be
released?
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

"razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>>
>> Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32
>> companie's website?
>> ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software
>
> and does anyone know when that security suite (Eset or NOD32 Suite) will
> be released?

NOD32 is made by Eset, http://www.eset.com/. Version 2.7 works with Vista.
News about the upcoming Eset Smart Security suite can be found at
http://www.eset.com/beta. Smart Security is currently in public beta 2, Eset
does not have a public schedule for future releases.

Charlie42
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

Just because you have to pay for something doesn't automatically make it
good. Norton demonstrates the point perfectly. Not only is it expensive, it
also hogs your resources, and even exibits spyware-like behaviour in that it
"impairs user control over material changes that affects their system
security". It is easily the worst "security" product you could ever get. But
by your reasoning it'd be "better" than the many free and indeed superior
anti-virus applications such as Avast or Antivir, which are not only
resource efficient, but also does not exibit spyware-like behaviour and have
much better detection rates than Norton.

"razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:096pd3hd9brvljo8dt7iaoi7c6qh0i8qet@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303"
>> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>> for
>>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>>
>>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
>>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>>> anti-spyware
>>> etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or
>> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best
>> product(s) in each category. It is *not* true that because company A
>> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its
>> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>
>
> Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus programs,
> and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at what they
> do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of people that
> believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im willing to pay
> since it is for protecting my data and my school investment.
>
> thanks
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

i just dont see getting something for free and expect it to do be better
than something i paid for, i am trying to protect my investment, i do
realize norton isnt the best, which is why im asking for people's opinions
on what works for them then i take that and combine with what ive read
online and what other people have told me.

thanks

"Chen Shen" <chen@cshen.ca> wrote in message
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> Just because you have to pay for something doesn't automatically make it
> good. Norton demonstrates the point perfectly. Not only is it expensive,
> it also hogs your resources, and even exibits spyware-like behaviour in
> that it "impairs user control over material changes that affects their
> system security". It is easily the worst "security" product you could ever
> get. But by your reasoning it'd be "better" than the many free and indeed
> superior anti-virus applications such as Avast or Antivir, which are not
> only resource efficient, but also does not exibit spyware-like behaviour
> and have much better detection rates than Norton.
>
> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:14E45BBF-F47C-40D8-9526-8A9347C96550@microsoft.com...
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:096pd3hd9brvljo8dt7iaoi7c6qh0i8qet@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303"
>>> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my
>>>> recently
>>>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>>> for
>>>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can
>>>> buy
>>>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>>>> anti-spyware
>>>> etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or
>>> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best
>>> product(s) in each category. It is *not* true that because company A
>>> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its
>>> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus
>> programs, and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at
>> what they do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of
>> people that believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im
>> willing to pay since it is for protecting my data and my school
>> investment.
>>
>> thanks
>
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:32:30 -0500, "razor_303"
<razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:

> i just dont see getting something for free and expect it to do be better
> than something i paid for,


Although I can understand why you feel that way, in the world of
software, it is *often* not the case. Chen Shen gave you one example
of an expensive paid-for product being inferior to free ones. They are
many more examples.



> i am trying to protect my investment, i do
> realize norton isnt the best, which is why im asking for people's opinions
> on what works for them then i take that and combine with what ive read
> online and what other people have told me.
>
> thanks
>
> "Chen Shen" <chen@cshen.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23hpA1Id8HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Just because you have to pay for something doesn't automatically make it
> > good. Norton demonstrates the point perfectly. Not only is it expensive,
> > it also hogs your resources, and even exibits spyware-like behaviour in
> > that it "impairs user control over material changes that affects their
> > system security". It is easily the worst "security" product you could ever
> > get. But by your reasoning it'd be "better" than the many free and indeed
> > superior anti-virus applications such as Avast or Antivir, which are not
> > only resource efficient, but also does not exibit spyware-like behaviour
> > and have much better detection rates than Norton.
> >
> > "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:14E45BBF-F47C-40D8-9526-8A9347C96550@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> >> news:096pd3hd9brvljo8dt7iaoi7c6qh0i8qet@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303"
> >>> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my
> >>>> recently
> >>>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
> >>>> for
> >>>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can
> >>>> buy
> >>>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
> >>>> anti-spyware
> >>>> etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or
> >>> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best
> >>> product(s) in each category. It is *not* true that because company A
> >>> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its
> >>> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus
> >> programs, and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at
> >> what they do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of
> >> people that believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im
> >> willing to pay since it is for protecting my data and my school
> >> investment.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite


"Donald McDaniel" <orthocross@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
news:2D06E851-1F0D-4463-8D93-A9A17377FECA@microsoft.com...
> "razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
>>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>for the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>
>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>> anti-spyware etc.
>>
>> I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
>> those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
>> while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>>
>> Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
>> software?
>>
>> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
> Here's my take on it:
>
> 1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
> 2) Takes too much control away from the user.
> 3) Too ponderous.
> 4) Too complicated.
>
> Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
> 1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
> even install under Vista).
> 2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
> 3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
> 4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than
> a unified Security Suite.
> 5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!
>
> Donald McDaniel


Is the current zone alarm suite the 2008 edition or it hasnt come out yet?
right now its at 7.1 but 7.0 was released in June of this year.
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303"
<razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for
>the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>
>I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
>that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware
>etc.

Why?

By configuring your windows, using not inherently broken software and
using your brain you don't need any such crap.

>I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
>those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
>while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>
>Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
>software?

You don't need additional software. Additional code doesn't make a
system more secure.

>getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>
>Thanks
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:46:24 +0200, "Charlie42" <Charlie42@spam.me.not>
wrote:

>"razor_303" <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote in
>news:5B3F1101-8454-4684-ADB9-8AE348F31424@microsoft.com...
>>
>> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>>
>
>If memory and CPU usage is a concern, you should take a look at Eset's NOD32
>anti-virus/anti-malware. It's well known for going easy on a computer's
>resources.

As a HIPS type of application NOD32 makes good sense.

>You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost
>are known to work well with NOD32.

If those firewalls are the answer, what exactly is the question?

>Until Eset release their full security suite in v3 (currently in beta), I'd
>go for one of the combinations above.
>
>Links:
>www.eset.com
>www.personalfirewall.comodo.com
>www.agnitum.com
>
>Charlie42
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:10:06 -0700, "PTravel"
<ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:

>
>"Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:14vzvis3dpan0.cp4bxjd9v5gc$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, PTravel wrote:
>>
>>> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.
>>
>> Windows Defender is not a firewall.
>
>You're correct. I meant Windows Firewall.

So you're saying that AVG firewall is better than the windows
firewall? If so, you're wrong again.

>AVG will also replace all the functions provided by Defender.

I doubt that.

>>
>> --
>> Paul Adare
>> MVP - Virtual Machines
>> http://www.identit.ca
>> Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:08:30 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:13:29 +0100, "VistaGeek"
><vista.geek@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
>> months now!
>
>
>Your choice, of course. My view is that no matter how well something
>works, it's always possible that something else could work better.
>Just because you haven't had any problems with it doesn't mean it's
>the best possible choice.

It also doesn't mean he would have had problems without it. Actually
"I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a
few months now!" means nothing in terms of security.

>> No impact on system.
>
>
>But that's flat out impossible. Anything you run has an impact on
>system performance. Some things have more of an impact than others,
>and some have a small enough impact on performance that you don't
>notice it. But nothing has a zero impact.

Exactly right. And why anyone would use system resources on mostly
nonsense functions like the ones ZA implements puzzles me.

>In this case, I would suspect that the impact is greater than you
>realize.
>
>
>> Good value for two licences
>
>
>Perhaps. A much better value is freeware. And there's lots of good
>freeware around to compete with it.

How about no ware? Security software is mostly security theater.

You make a system secure by removing attack vectors. Not by adding
further code to it.
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:40:58 -0700, "Donald McDaniel"
<orthocross@comcast.invalid> wrote:

>Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
>1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
>even install under Vista).
>2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
>3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
>4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than a
>unified Security Suite.
>5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

Here is my suggestion for a security suite:
1) Configure windows properly
2) Install and use not inherently broken software (which rules out IE,
OE and Outlook)
3) Implement Brain 1.0
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

>>>
>>> Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus
>>> programs, and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at
>>> what they do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of
>>> people that believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im
>>> willing to pay since it is for protecting my data and my school
>>> investment.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>
>
Ad-Aware
AVG
ZoneAlarm
+ good old fashioned common sense.
Oh..and having a HW FW is a good idea too.


--
What were you? A jock or a brain?" http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
"I was a ghost." PSK - RLU 452647
Warrick Brown and Gil Grissom (Bully for You)
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Sep 8, 1:18 pm, Straight Talk <b__n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:10:06 -0700, "PTravel"
>
> <ptra...@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
>
> >"Paul Adare" <pkad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:14vzvis3dpan0.cp4bxjd9v5gc$.dlg@40tude.net...
> >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700,PTravelwrote:
>
> >>> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.
>
> >> Windows Defender is not a firewall.
>
> >You're correct. I meant Windows Firewall.
>
> So you're saying that AVG firewall is better than the windows
> firewall? If so, you're wrong again.

Unlike Windows Firewall, AVG gives transparent control over both in-
coming and out-going network communications.

>
> >AVG will also replace all the functions provided by Defender.
>
> I doubt that.

I'm not particularly interested in what you doubt or don't. The
Grisoft website provides information for anyone who is interested.

Are you one of those net posters who sense of self-worth comes from
jumping in to threads and screaming, "You're wrong!, "I doubt that!"?
I provided my opinion and explained why I hold it. You, on the other
hand, seem to have very little to say.




>
>
>
> >> --
> >> Paul Adare
> >> MVP - Virtual Machines
> >>http://www.identit.ca
> >> Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:44:50 -0700, ptravel@travelersvideo.com wrote:

>Unlike Windows Firewall, AVG gives transparent control over both in-
>coming and out-going network communications.

The outbound control myth is so tenacious.
 
Re: Recommend a Security Suite


"Straight Talk" <b__nice@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:mi06e31o7tvcj610cpi4dsuifvl0eso4s8@4ax.com...
>>You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost
>>are known to work well with NOD32.
>
> If those firewalls are the answer, what exactly is the question?

NOD32 v2.7 doesn't come with a firewall, and razor_303 asked for advice on
security suites. Therefore I felt obliged to mention some firewalls I know
to work with NOD32. Imo. buying an entire security suite is the wrong thing
to do when your memory and CPU resources are stretched, rather I'd recommend
a stand alone anti-malware program and a firewall.

As Victek pointed out, Comodo for Vista is still in beta stage of
development (so is Outpost). For the time being, running NOD32 alongside
with Windows Firewall is an option. If you feel a third party firewall is
required, both PCTools and Jetico have released firewalls for Vista. PCTools
is a bit of a hog though, I haven't tried Jetico myself.

Charlie42
 

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