Internet Connection Problems

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

glee wrote:
> Some replies inline, below....
>
> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> news:e4pEfH17HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> <large snip>
>> No router noted in Safe Mode Device Manager. Here is what I see in
>> the Safe Mode Device Manager (and this is where there appears to be
>> some big time problems that I don't know how to fix):
>>
>> Computer
>> -CDROM
>> Plextor CD-R PX-W1210A
>> Samsung CD-ROM SCR-3230
>> -Disk Drives
>> GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47
>> GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
>> IOMEGA ZIP 100
>> OLYMPUS C750UZ
>>
>>
>> -Display adapters
>> NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
>> Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI
>
> Do you currently actually have two display adapters (video cards)
> installed? Or, do you have a video card plus an on-board display
> adapter built into the motherboard?
>
> I am guessing that you have an NVidia GeForce2 video card, and that you
> at one time had a Trident PCI video card installed, but have physically
> removed it.....is this correct, or no?

I made a quick check of my system using Everest Home Edition. Here is
what I found under Display:

Display
Video Adapter---NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
3D Accelerator---nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Monitor---Default Monitor
Monitor---Default Monitor

Note: the "3D Accelerator line had an X at the beginning of this line.
The only other X shown on the Computer/Summary page is just before
DirectX 4.09.00.0902 (DirectX 9.06) line.
>
>
>> -Floppy disk controllers
>> Standard Floppy Disk Controller
>> -Hard disk controllers
>> Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
>> Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
>> VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
>> -Human Interface Devices
>> USB Human Interface Device
>> -Imaging Device
>> EPSON Perfection 1650
>> -Keyboard
>> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
>> -Modem
>> HSP56 MicroModem
>> -Monitors
>> COMPAQ V70 Color Monitor
>> CTX 1451
>> CTX 1451
>> Default Monitor
>> Default Monitor
>> LG Studio Works 78i
>> LG Studio Works 78i
>> Plug and Play Monitor
>
>
> You can, from Device Manager in Safe Mode, remove every repeat every
> monitor listed. When you restart in normal mode, Windows will detect the
> currently attached monitor, and possibly also the Plug and Play monitor
> and the Default monitor. That's fine.

I removed all of the entries under Monitors. I now have, after restart,
two entries titled Default Monitor.
>
>
>>
>> -Mouse
>> HID-compliant mouse
>> PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port
>> -Network Adapters
>> Linksy LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>> Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
>
>> -Other devices ((((This entry is preceded by a yellow question mark.))))
>> PCI Communication Device ((((Yellow question mark here also.))))
>>
>> ((((I really don't know what this yellow question mark item refers to
>> on my system.))))
>
>
> Earlier, you mentioned Windows detecting a PCI Multimedia Audio Device
> (which usually refers to a sound card). This is in addition to the item
> listed in the Other Devices: PCI Communication Device?

The only device with a problem in Device Manager (full Windows or Safe
Mode) is the one identified above. I did note, when opening MS/DOS,
that there was an error message noted on the opening page as follows:

error
Memory Manager not detected
PCI audio driver requires EEM386 or similar
PCI audio driver NOT loading

Could this error be pointing to the ever present New Hardware Wizard
finding of a PCI Multimedia Audio Device problem?


>
> It sounds like your reversion to an old image may be conflicting with
> currently present hardware....were hardware changes made between the
> time you made the image, and the present?

I can remember the following changes:
-A new LAN card was added to the system when moving from dial-up to FiOS.
-A new external 120GB hard drive was added to the system, primarily to
make backups of my 30GB hard drive.
-A new internal hard drive (120GB) was added, and later the original
hard drive (30GB) was reinstalled. The 120GB hard drive is the one that
originally started going south on me. I then formatted this disk and
attempted to put a backup copy on it from my exterior hard drive...that
didn't work for some reason. Right now the 120GB hard drive is in a
drawer, and the 30 GB disk is back in the system. It then ran into a
problem like the 120GB disk had. I then formatted the 30GB disk and
moved a May 2006 Image for DOS back on this 30GB hard drive. I have
been attempting for nearly two weeks to make this 98SE/30GB system
connect to the internet without success.

>
>>
>> -Ports (COM & LPT)
>> Communications Port (COM1)
>> Communications Port (COM5)
>> ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
>> -SCSI controllers
>> OLYMPUS USB Digital Camera SCSI
>> Win95-98 Promise Ultra100(tm) IDE Controller (PDC20265)
>> -Sound, video and game controllers
>> BDA IPSink
>> BDA MPE Filter
>> BDA Slip DE-Framer
>> Closed Caption Decoder
>> Creative Gameport Joystick
>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI128
>> Microsoft Streaming Clock Proxy
>> Microsoft Streaming Service Proxy
>> Microsoft Streaming Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter
>> Microsoft Streaming Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter
>> NABTS/FEC VBI Codec
>> Sound Blaster PCI128 Legacy Device
>> Wave Device for Voice Modum
>> World Standard Teletext Codec
>>
>> ((((I have a Sound Blaster PCI128 card in my system.))))
>
>
> All the Sound items listed appear normal for a Safe Mode listing.
>
>> <snip of further device listings that appear normal>
>
>> On the System Properties page, Performance Tab, I have the following
>> showing: ((((I think I have some big time errors here---ones that may
>> be the cause of my internet connection problems. It seems that my
>> hard drives are working via DOS connections. I don't know how to
>> change this to where it belongs.))))
>>
>> Performance status in safe mode.
>> Memory - 512.0 MB of RAM
>> System Resources - 86% free
>> File System - Some drivers are using MS-DOS compatibility
>> Virtual Memory - MS-DOS compatibility mode
>> Disk Compression - Not installed
>> PC Cards (PCMCIA) - No PC Card sockets are installed
>>
>> Select an item, and then click details for more information.
>> Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance.
>> Drive A is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
>> Drive B is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
>> Drive C is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
>> Drive D is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
>> Drive E is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
>
> All this is normal for Safe Mode. All drives will appear in DOS
> Compatibility Mode in Safe Mode....there is nothing there to fix. Look
> at it in normal mode.

You are correct.

>
> I'm not sure the problems you describe with the system are due to a
> virus, but I can't add anything more right now, due to previous
> commitments.
>
> It's not easy being Green.

I am getting tired and frustrated at the moment. I can remember the
Verizon technician hooking up the XP machine and saying that he could
not connect the 98SE machine...he was not trained on how to do that. He
left, and I did something at that time that immediately had me connected
to the internet. I can't seem to remember what that something was. I
have now gone into the system making changes everywhere, and nothing
seems to help.

I have given consideration to moving all of my data files to either the
D and E partitions of the currently installed 30GB hard drive and
formatting the C partition on this hard drive. I could then reload
Windows 98SE from the Windows disk. From there I would start
reinstalling software to my system on the C drive. That is one of the
solutions I have in mind, if everything else fails.

The second solution would involve removing the 30GB hard drive from my
system and replacing it with the 120GB disk. I would then attempt to
move the backup files from the external 120GB hard disk to the internal
120GB hard disk. This did not work before because disk five of the six
startup disks was not accepted by the system (I can't remember the
message that I got at the time). I could install the Acronis software
back on the hard drive presently in my system (30GB) and try to make a
new set of disks. Hopefully, I would be able to make a good set of
startup disks. Then, I would then remove the 30GB hard drive from my
system and install the 120GB hard drive. Next, I would again format the
120GB internal hard drive and attempt to move data from the external
120GB hard drive to the internal 120GB hard drive. If this works, I
would then be concerned about whether this data was hit by the same
problem that got my internal hard drive to start this whole process. If
so, I believe I would be forced back to fixing what I have now or
starting over with the C partition on the 30GB hard drive.

Have I gotten you completely confused? If so, it's caused by the
XP-irradiation, according to what's his name..PCR I think.

Thanks for helping me again and again...it is always appreciated.

Frog

 

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

Jeff, thanks for trying to rescue me. This recovery process has been
very challenging and difficult for me, to say the least.

Jeff Richards wrote:
> What are the steps you have gone through to install and configure networking
> on the W98 machine, following the fresh install?

I don't know any steps I have taken that have not been detailed in my
earlier messages. I don't mean this response to be a put-off, but I am
lost as to what I can add that has not already been stated in my
messages. Just say the word, if there something specific that I can
send your way.
>
> AFAIK you should be able to use the network setup wizard on the XP machine
> to create a network configuration disk to use on the W98 machine that the
> W98 network configuration wizard would use to configure all your networking
> settings correctly. Note that because of differences in the way things are
> arranged it's not possible to do a simple one-to-one comparison between
> settings on the XP machine and settings on the W98 machine.

This suggestion had me excited, when I read your message today...I
thought for sure this would work. I retrieved the disk I made while
networking my two computers..put the disk in the 98SE system and setup
the network. I next shut down both computers, unplugged the router from
the power for 30 seconds (Verizon tells me that this action will cause
the router to reprogram itself), started both computers, attempted to
connect to the internet from the XP machine...that worked. Next, I
attempted to connect to the internet from the 98SE machine...that still
did not work. I thought for sure this would be the answer I was looking
for--oh well, onward with my search for an answer.
>
> If Verizon won't help until you connect successfully, why not connect using
> the XP machine and then ask them for help accessing the internet (NOT
> connecting - that's already been accomplished) from the W98 machine. Of
> course, there might not be anyone at Verizon who knows anything about W98,
> which could be a problem.

You hit the nail on the head...Verizon technicians have a set of
instructions for connecting computers to the internet. The instruction
book, however, does not include how to connect a 98SE system to the
internet. They clearly told me that they dropped all support for
Windows 98SE systems at the same time Microsoft dropped their support
for this operating system. I don't like this, but what can I do?

Thanks for your response to my call for help..your help is very much
appreciated.

Frog

 

[Dan]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

It sounds like a good plan. Please keep the newsgroup informed when you
actually accomplish this so we can try and help you out. <smile>

"Curt Christianson" wrote:

> I've still have my copy of 98SE *very* safely tucked away, and I will get
> around to installing it. Unfortunately, it's not *quite* as easily
> implemented in a dual boot scenario when 98 is installed *after* the XP
> installation. I'll probably end up using BootIt NG to accomplish this.
>
> --
> HTH,
> Curt
>
> Windows Support Center
> www.aumha.org
> Practically Nerded,...
> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FB04E2CE-3B65-4D5B-A508-12437C0186E4@microsoft.com...
> | So Curt, are you going to get a copy of 98SE to install on your system
> again.
> | <wink, smile, grin>
> |
> | "Curt Christianson" wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Frog,
> | >
> | > Where you mentioned "Enable or disable DNS", what about enabling it, and
> | > using the same DNS numbers as the XP machine is running? Does that do
> | > anything. (I really wish I had my W98 running right now...)
> | >
> | > --
> | > HTH,
> | > Curt
> | >
> | > Windows Support Center
> | > www.aumha.org
> | > Practically Nerded,...
> | > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> | >
> | > "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> | > news:eDNvQjx7HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | I wasn't sure what to do with this instruction. There are two options
> | > | to select from--Disable DNS and Enable DNS. If I click enable, there
> | > | will be a number of boxes (currently grayed out) that will need to be
> | > | filled.
> | >
> | > <snipped all to heck>
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

 

[Dan]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

<snipped due to length concerns>

There are current cert advisories on problems with Cisco and VPN access.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20070905-video.shtml

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20070905-csm.shtml

http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#cisco_releases_security_advisories_to1

Grateful thanks given to the Defense Network

 

[Brian A.]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
<snipped>
>>
>> You don't have any responses to the connection tests below.
>
> From here on down, I don't know how to proceed. I clicked Start>Run, and typed in
> cmd; and I received the following message:
>
> Cannot find the file 'cmd' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and
> filename are correct and that all required libraries are available.
>
<snipped>

I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).

Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press Enter.
At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
**Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or ^.

=ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
If it times out then there is no communication between the router and machine.
If not then the machine communicates with the router.

=ping ^ google.com
If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
If not then net connection is established and all is well.

ping 127.0.0.1
If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.

Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
=ping ^ computername
If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.

If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is correct along with
other settings.
= ipconfig ^ /all
If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after each command (98
may be different):

=ipconfig ^ /release
=ipconfig ^ /flushdns
=ipconfig ^ /renew
=ipconfig ^ /registerdns
=exit
If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only and exit.

Shut down the machine.
Pull the power from the router.
Pull the power from the modem.
Wait approx 30 secs.
Apply power to the modem and wait for it to finish synchronizing with the cable.
Apply power to the router and wait for it to finish synchronizing with the modem.
Power up the machine.
The machine should now be assigned a new IP from the router.
Run ipconfig or attempt net connection to test.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[glee]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:uWB5LMC8HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> <snipped>
>>>
>>> You don't have any responses to the connection tests below.
>>
>> From here on down, I don't know how to proceed. I clicked Start>Run, and typed
>> in cmd; and I received the following message:
>>
>> Cannot find the file 'cmd' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and
>> filename are correct and that all required libraries are available.
>>
> <snipped>
>
> I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).
>
> Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press Enter.
> At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
> **Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or ^.
>
> =ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
> If it times out then there is no communication between the router and machine.
> If not then the machine communicates with the router.
>
> =ping ^ google.com
> If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
> If not then net connection is established and all is well.
>
> ping 127.0.0.1
> If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.
>
> Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
> =ping ^ computername
> If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.
>
> If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is correct along
> with other settings.
> = ipconfig ^ /all
>
> If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after each command
> (98 may be different):
>
> =ipconfig ^ /release
> =ipconfig ^ /flushdns
> =ipconfig ^ /renew
> =ipconfig ^ /registerdns
> =exit
> If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only and exit.


Brian,
neither /flushdns nor /registerdns are valid switches for ipconfig in Win98, IIRC.
Frog will just get an error message.

Frog,
You can (at least in Win98) use this command to write the info from "ipconfig /all"
to a text file named "ipall.txt" in the root of C:, from where it can be opened in
Notepad, and copy/pasted in a reply here if needed:

ipconfig /all /batch c:\ipall.txt


> Shut down the machine.
> Pull the power from the router.
> Pull the power from the modem.
> Wait approx 30 secs.
> Apply power to the modem and wait for it to finish synchronizing with the cable.
> Apply power to the router and wait for it to finish synchronizing with the modem.
> Power up the machine.
> The machine should now be assigned a new IP from the router.
> Run ipconfig or attempt net connection to test.
>

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

[glee]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

Replies inline....

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:OH0mVH$7HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> glee wrote:
>>> <large snip>
>>> No router noted in Safe Mode Device Manager. Here is what I see in the Safe
>>> Mode Device Manager (and this is where there appears to be some big time
>>> problems that I don't know how to fix):
>>>
>>> -Display adapters
>>> NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
>>> Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI
>>
>> Do you currently actually have two display adapters (video cards) installed? Or,
>> do you have a video card plus an on-board display adapter built into the
>> motherboard?
>>
>> I am guessing that you have an NVidia GeForce2 video card, and that you at one
>> time had a Trident PCI video card installed, but have physically removed
>> it.....is this correct, or no?
>
> I made a quick check of my system using Everest Home Edition. Here is what I
> found under Display:
>
> Display
> Video Adapter---NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
> 3D Accelerator---nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
> Monitor---Default Monitor
> Monitor---Default Monitor


OK, then the "Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI" entry in Safe Mode Device
Manager is apparently a ghost from an old display adapter. You should be able to
remove it from Device Manager with no problem.


> Note: the "3D Accelerator line had an X at the beginning of this line. The only
> other X shown on the Computer/Summary page is just before DirectX 4.09.00.0902
> (DirectX 9.06) line.


That's just the icon Everest uses for those items....it's normal.


>>> -Monitors
>>> COMPAQ V70 Color Monitor
>>> CTX 1451
>>> CTX 1451
>>> Default Monitor
>>> Default Monitor
>>> LG Studio Works 78i
>>> LG Studio Works 78i
>>> Plug and Play Monitor
>>
>>
>> You can, from Device Manager in Safe Mode, remove every repeat every monitor
>> listed. When you restart in normal mode, Windows will detect the currently
>> attached monitor, and possibly also the Plug and Play monitor and the Default
>> monitor. That's fine.
>
> I removed all of the entries under Monitors. I now have, after restart, two
> entries titled Default Monitor.

You should have a disc(probably a CD) that came with the LG Studio Works 78i....if
that is the monitor you are currently using, that disc should have an installer of
some sort, which you can use to update the monitor enumeration so Windows recognises
it with the correct name, and uses the correct color management profile.


>>> -Network Adapters
>>> Linksy LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>>> Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
>>
>>> -Other devices ((((This entry is preceded by a yellow question mark.))))
>>> PCI Communication Device ((((Yellow question mark here also.))))
>>>
>>> ((((I really don't know what this yellow question mark item refers to on my
>>> system.))))
>>
>>
>> Earlier, you mentioned Windows detecting a PCI Multimedia Audio Device (which
>> usually refers to a sound card). This is in addition to the item listed in the
>> Other Devices: PCI Communication Device?
>
> The only device with a problem in Device Manager (full Windows or Safe Mode) is
> the one identified above.


A PCI Communication Device could be a modem or a network card, so something is still
not being enumerated correctly, methinks.


> I did note, when opening MS/DOS, that there was an error message noted on the
> opening page as follows:
>
> error
> Memory Manager not detected
> PCI audio driver requires EEM386 or similar
> PCI audio driver NOT loading
>
> Could this error be pointing to the ever present New Hardware Wizard finding of a
> PCI Multimedia Audio Device problem?


You are having multiple device enumeratuion problems, and I am wondering how much is
due to restoring to such an old image, and how much stems from possibly mis-steps by
the shop's tech, where you had the work done. I would be tempted to start over, but
since you don't do all this work yourself, you may be reluctant to go that route
yet, throwing more money to the technician and shop with no good results.


>>
>> It sounds like your reversion to an old image may be conflicting with currently
>> present hardware....were hardware changes made between the time you made the
>> image, and the present?
>
> I can remember the following changes:
> -A new LAN card was added to the system when moving from dial-up to FiOS.


Did you formerly have another network card installed, before you moved to FiOS? If
so, that might be the "Unknown" communication device in Device Manager. Did you try
removing the "Unknown" device from Safe Mode? Does it come back when you start in
normal mode after that?


> -A new external 120GB hard drive was added to the system, primarily to make
> backups of my 30GB hard drive.
> -A new internal hard drive (120GB) was added, and later the original hard drive
> (30GB) was reinstalled. The 120GB hard drive is the one that originally started
> going south on me. I then formatted this disk and attempted to put a backup copy
> on it from my exterior hard drive...that didn't work for some reason. Right now
> the 120GB hard drive is in a drawer, and the 30 GB disk is back in the system. It
> then ran into a problem like the 120GB disk had.


Which problem are you referring to?


> I then formatted the 30GB disk and moved a May 2006 Image for DOS back on this
> 30GB hard drive. I have been attempting for nearly two weeks to make this
> 98SE/30GB system connect to the internet without success.
>
<another big snip>
>
> I am getting tired and frustrated at the moment. I can remember the Verizon
> technician hooking up the XP machine and saying that he could not connect the 98SE
> machine...he was not trained on how to do that. He left, and I did something at
> that time that immediately had me connected to the internet. I can't seem to
> remember what that something was. I have now gone into the system making changes
> everywhere, and nothing seems to help.

Draw me a line picture of your physical setup, using dashes and arrows for cables
and brackets for devices, like this:

[ cable jack ]------> [ modem ]------>[ router ]------------------------>[XP
computer]
|----------->[98
computer]

>
> I have given consideration to moving all of my data files to either the D and E
> partitions of the currently installed 30GB hard drive and formatting the C
> partition on this hard drive. I could then reload Windows 98SE from the Windows
> disk. From there I would start reinstalling software to my system on the C drive.
> That is one of the solutions I have in mind, if everything else fails.
>
> The second solution would involve removing the 30GB hard drive from my system and
> replacing it with the 120GB disk. I would then attempt to move the backup files
> from the external 120GB hard disk to the internal 120GB hard disk. This did not
> work before because disk five of the six startup disks was not accepted by the
> system (I can't remember the message that I got at the time). I could install the
> Acronis software back on the hard drive presently in my system (30GB) and try to
> make a new set of disks. Hopefully, I would be able to make a good set of startup
> disks. Then, I would then remove the 30GB hard drive from my system and install
> the 120GB hard drive. Next, I would again format the 120GB internal hard drive
> and attempt to move data from the external 120GB hard drive to the internal 120GB
> hard drive. If this works, I would then be concerned about whether this data was
> hit by the same problem that got my internal hard drive to start this whole
> process. If so, I believe I would be forced back to fixing what I have now or
> starting over with the C partition on the 30GB hard drive.
>
> Have I gotten you completely confused? If so, it's caused by the XP-irradiation,
> according to what's his name..PCR I think.
>
> Thanks for helping me again and again...it is always appreciated.

I'm not helping much here, I'm afraid.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

[Brian A.]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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>> <snipped>
>> = ipconfig ^ /all
>>
>> If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after each command
>> (98 may be different):
>>
>> =ipconfig ^ /release
>> =ipconfig ^ /flushdns
>> =ipconfig ^ /renew
>> =ipconfig ^ /registerdns
>> =exit
>> If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only and exit.
>
>
> Brian,
> neither /flushdns nor /registerdns are valid switches for ipconfig in Win98, IIRC.
> Frog will just get an error message.

I did state 98 may be different. [|) You're correct and there's more
changing/cleanup for me to do.
The proper commands for 98 are:

/all = Displays detailed information
/batch [File] = Write to file or ./winipconfig.out
/renew_all = Renew all adapters
/release_all = Release all adapters
/renew n = Renew adapter n
/release n =Release adapter n


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

glee wrote:
> Replies inline....
>
> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> news:OH0mVH$7HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> glee wrote:
>>>> <large snip>
>>>> No router noted in Safe Mode Device Manager. Here is what I see in
>>>> the Safe Mode Device Manager (and this is where there appears to be
>>>> some big time problems that I don't know how to fix):
>>>>
>>>> -Display adapters
>>>> NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
>>>> Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI
>>>
>>> Do you currently actually have two display adapters (video cards)
>>> installed? Or, do you have a video card plus an on-board display
>>> adapter built into the motherboard?
>>>
>>> I am guessing that you have an NVidia GeForce2 video card, and that
>>> you at one time had a Trident PCI video card installed, but have
>>> physically removed it.....is this correct, or no?
>>
>> I made a quick check of my system using Everest Home Edition. Here is
>> what I found under Display:
>>
>> Display
>> Video Adapter---NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
>> 3D Accelerator---nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
>> Monitor---Default Monitor
>> Monitor---Default Monitor
>
>
> OK, then the "Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI" entry in Safe
> Mode Device Manager is apparently a ghost from an old display adapter.
> You should be able to remove it from Device Manager with no problem.

Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI is gone.

>
>
>> Note: the "3D Accelerator line had an X at the beginning of this line.
>> The only other X shown on the Computer/Summary page is just before
>> DirectX 4.09.00.0902 (DirectX 9.06) line.
>
>
> That's just the icon Everest uses for those items....it's normal.
>
>
>>>> -Monitors
>>>> COMPAQ V70 Color Monitor
>>>> CTX 1451
>>>> CTX 1451
>>>> Default Monitor
>>>> Default Monitor
>>>> LG Studio Works 78i
>>>> LG Studio Works 78i
>>>> Plug and Play Monitor
>>>
>>>
>>> You can, from Device Manager in Safe Mode, remove every repeat every
>>> monitor listed. When you restart in normal mode, Windows will detect
>>> the currently attached monitor, and possibly also the Plug and Play
>>> monitor and the Default monitor. That's fine.
>>
>> I removed all of the entries under Monitors. I now have, after
>> restart, two entries titled Default Monitor.
>
> You should have a disc(probably a CD) that came with the LG Studio Works
> 78i....if that is the monitor you are currently using, that disc should
> have an installer of some sort, which you can use to update the monitor
> enumeration so Windows recognises it with the correct name, and uses the
> correct color management profile.

Thus far, I have not been able to find the LG Studio Works 78i CD. I
looked in the box where I keep all of the info and CDs/disks that came
with the software that is installed on my system, with no joy (quickly
becoming the story of my life). I will continue my search for that disk.
>
>
>>>> -Network Adapters
>>>> Linksy LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
>>>> Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
>>>
>>>> -Other devices ((((This entry is preceded by a yellow question
>>>> mark.))))
>>>> PCI Communication Device ((((Yellow question mark here also.))))
>>>>
>>>> ((((I really don't know what this yellow question mark item refers
>>>> to on my system.))))
>>>
>>>
>>> Earlier, you mentioned Windows detecting a PCI Multimedia Audio
>>> Device (which usually refers to a sound card). This is in addition
>>> to the item listed in the Other Devices: PCI Communication Device?
>>
>> The only device with a problem in Device Manager (full Windows or Safe
>> Mode) is the one identified above.
>
>
> A PCI Communication Device could be a modem or a network card, so
> something is still not being enumerated correctly, methinks.

Could it be the old modem card? This card was in the system when the
98SE system was working on the Verizon connection...with no apparent
problems noted.

>
>
>> I did note, when opening MS/DOS, that there was an error message noted
>> on the opening page as follows:
>>
>> error
>> Memory Manager not detected
>> PCI audio driver requires EEM386 or similar
>> PCI audio driver NOT loading
>>
>> Could this error be pointing to the ever present New Hardware Wizard
>> finding of a PCI Multimedia Audio Device problem?
>
>
> You are having multiple device enumeratuion problems, and I am wondering
> how much is due to restoring to such an old image, and how much stems
> from possibly mis-steps by the shop's tech, where you had the work
> done. I would be tempted to start over, but since you don't do all this
> work yourself, you may be reluctant to go that route yet, throwing more
> money to the technician and shop with no good results.

I may be forced in this direction by default. I will attempt to do it
myself initially; and, if that doesn't work, I will have to decide what
to do next.
>
>
>>>
>>> It sounds like your reversion to an old image may be conflicting with
>>> currently present hardware....were hardware changes made between the
>>> time you made the image, and the present?
>>
>> I can remember the following changes:
>> -A new LAN card was added to the system when moving from dial-up to FiOS.
>
>
> Did you formerly have another network card installed, before you moved
> to FiOS? If so, that might be the "Unknown" communication device in
> Device Manager. Did you try removing the "Unknown" device from Safe
> Mode? Does it come back when you start in normal mode after that?

I removed the dial-up modem from the system while it was turned off.
I started the system in Safe-Mode and removed the Yellow ? items from
device manager.
I restarted the computer.
The "Add New Hardware Wizard" again found the RCI Multimedia Audio Device.
I checked the Device Manager in regular mode, and all was okay.
I returned to Safe Mode - Device ,and the yellow ? is not there.
While in Windows mode, I again attempted to connect to the Internet with
no joy.
I will continue to watch the Device Manager in Safe Mode for the yellow
? marks to reappear.

>
>
>> -A new external 120GB hard drive was added to the system, primarily to
>> make backups of my 30GB hard drive.
>> -A new internal hard drive (120GB) was added, and later the original
>> hard drive (30GB) was reinstalled. The 120GB hard drive is the one
>> that originally started going south on me. I then formatted this disk
>> and attempted to put a backup copy on it from my exterior hard
>> drive...that didn't work for some reason. Right now the 120GB hard
>> drive is in a drawer, and the 30 GB disk is back in the system. It
>> then ran into a problem like the 120GB disk had.
>
>
> Which problem are you referring to?

I seem to have a number of problems right now. In this case, I am
referring to Program Files and DLL files along with other software
disappearing from the hard drive. Both the 120GB and 30GB hard disks
seemed to end up with the same problems. That seems odd since the only
time they were working together was when the shop moved the software
from the 30GB hard drive to the 120GB hard drive. Either I had
something going on on the 30GB hard drive when I took it to the shop and
it was transferred to the new 120GB hard drive, or I picked it up while
the system was in being worked on. In either event, I ultimately was
forced to restore a back-up made by Image for DOS dated in May 2006. I
still do have the external 120GB hard drive that was connected to the
98SE system when all of this happened. I had a backup image of my
system stored on this external hard drive. I haven't been able to
attempt to restore that image back to the 120GB internal hard drive,
because the backup disk needed to make the restore did not work.
>
>
>> I then formatted the 30GB disk and moved a May 2006 Image for DOS back
>> on this 30GB hard drive. I have been attempting for nearly two weeks
>> to make this 98SE/30GB system connect to the internet without success.
>>
> <another big snip>
>>
>> I am getting tired and frustrated at the moment. I can remember the
>> Verizon technician hooking up the XP machine and saying that he could
>> not connect the 98SE machine...he was not trained on how to do that.
>> He left, and I did something at that time that immediately had me
>> connected to the internet. I can't seem to remember what that
>> something was. I have now gone into the system making changes
>> everywhere, and nothing seems to help.
>
> Draw me a line picture of your physical setup, using dashes and arrows
> for cables and brackets for devices, like this:
>
> [ cable jack ]------> [ modem ]------>[ router
> ]------------------------>[XP computer]
>
> |----------->[98 computer]

Box on outside of house---------router-------plug on back of 98SE box
|----------plug on back of XP box



>
>>
>> I have given consideration to moving all of my data files to either
>> the D and E partitions of the currently installed 30GB hard drive and
>> formatting the C partition on this hard drive. I could then reload
>> Windows 98SE from the Windows disk. From there I would start
>> reinstalling software to my system on the C drive. That is one of the
>> solutions I have in mind, if everything else fails.
>>
>> The second solution would involve removing the 30GB hard drive from my
>> system and replacing it with the 120GB disk. I would then attempt to
>> move the backup files from the external 120GB hard disk to the
>> internal 120GB hard disk. This did not work before because disk five
>> of the six startup disks was not accepted by the system (I can't
>> remember the message that I got at the time). I could install the
>> Acronis software back on the hard drive presently in my system (30GB)
>> and try to make a new set of disks. Hopefully, I would be able to
>> make a good set of startup disks. Then, I would then remove the 30GB
>> hard drive from my system and install the 120GB hard drive. Next, I
>> would again format the 120GB internal hard drive and attempt to move
>> data from the external 120GB hard drive to the internal 120GB hard
>> drive. If this works, I would then be concerned about whether this
>> data was hit by the same problem that got my internal hard drive to
>> start this whole process. If so, I believe I would be forced back to
>> fixing what I have now or starting over with the C partition on the
>> 30GB hard drive.
>>
>> Have I gotten you completely confused? If so, it's caused by the
>> XP-irradiation, according to what's his name..PCR I think.
>>
>> Thanks for helping me again and again...it is always appreciated.
>
> I'm not helping much here, I'm afraid.

 

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

glee wrote:
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:uWB5LMC8HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>> You don't have any responses to the connection tests below.
>>>
>>> From here on down, I don't know how to proceed. I clicked Start>Run,
>>> and typed in cmd; and I received the following message:
>>>
>>> Cannot find the file 'cmd' (or one of its components). Make sure the
>>> path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are
>>> available.
>>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).
>>
>> Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press
>> Enter.
>> At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
>> **Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or ^.
>>
>> =ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
>> If it times out then there is no communication between the router and
>> machine.
>> If not then the machine communicates with the router.
>>
>> =ping ^ google.com
>> If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
>> If not then net connection is established and all is well.
>>
>> ping 127.0.0.1
>> If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.
>>
>> Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
>> =ping ^ computername
>> If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.
>>
>> If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is
>> correct along with other settings.
>> = ipconfig ^ /all
>>
>> If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after
>> each command (98 may be different):
>>
>> =ipconfig ^ /release
>> =ipconfig ^ /flushdns
>> =ipconfig ^ /renew
>> =ipconfig ^ /registerdns
>> =exit
>> If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only
>> and exit.
>
>
> Brian,
> neither /flushdns nor /registerdns are valid switches for ipconfig in
> Win98, IIRC. Frog will just get an error message.
>
> Frog,
> You can (at least in Win98) use this command to write the info from
> "ipconfig /all" to a text file named "ipall.txt" in the root of C:, from
> where it can be opened in Notepad, and copy/pasted in a reply here if
> needed:
>
> ipconfig /all /batch c:\ipall.txt

I did as you suggested and then.......how do I get that batch file from
my 98SE system to the XP system. Well, I figured that out--I copied it
by hand and typed it into my message for Brian. There may have been
another way (like reading it to disk), but I decided to take the route I
knew would work.

Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>
>> Shut down the machine.
>> Pull the power from the router.
>> Pull the power from the modem.
>> Wait approx 30 secs.
>> Apply power to the modem and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
>> the cable.
>> Apply power to the router and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
>> the modem.
>> Power up the machine.
>> The machine should now be assigned a new IP from the router.
>> Run ipconfig or attempt net connection to test.
>>
>

 

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

Something happened late last night that tells me this is likely (in my
beginner's mind), that I have a hardware problem. I, in fact, had an
internet connection on the 98SE machine for about 3 minutes; and then
the contact was gone again. No changes were made to anything
immediately before the connection was made. After the connection was
made, however, I downloaded a new version on my virus scan and loaded
that on my system. Next, I loaded my firewall. I then noticed that the
virus scan was attempting to update without success. I thought this was
likely the firewall doing something, so I removed it from the system.
The virus scan continued its attempt to update without success. I then
tried to see if I had mail on the server...that didn't work. The bottom
line in my mind is--the 98SE settings must be correct if it connected
once. Thus, that would signal to me that I have a bad connection cable
to the router or a bad LAN card. That is my armature thinking...could I
be close? Once I finish this message, I will once again switch cables
on the two machines to see what happens. If the 98SE system can't
connect using the XP cable, that would once again rule out a problem
with the cable. The next item back in the chain of things would be the
LAN card. I don't have an extra LAN card, so I would have to make a
trip to the store for that item. Any thoughts you have on why this
temporary connection occurred would be appreciated.

Now, on to answering this message.

Brian A. wrote:
> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> <snipped>
>>>
>>> You don't have any responses to the connection tests below.
>>
>> From here on down, I don't know how to proceed. I clicked Start>Run,
>> and typed in cmd; and I received the following message:
>>
>> Cannot find the file 'cmd' (or one of its components). Make sure the
>> path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are
>> available.
>>
> <snipped>
>
> I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).
>
> Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press
> Enter.
> At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
> **Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or ^.
>
> =ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
> If it times out then there is no communication between the router and
> machine.
> If not then the machine communicates with the router.

Here are the results for ping 192.168.1.1

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data
Request timed out
Request timed out
Request timed out
Request timed out
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms,Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
>
> =ping ^ google.com
> If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
> If not then net connection is established and all is well.

Unknown host google.com
>

> ping 127.0.0.1
> If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.

Ping 127.0.0.1: with 32 bytes of data
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1 ms, Average = 0ms
>
> Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
> =ping ^ computername
> If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.

From the 98SE computer:
Unknown host DELL_COMPUTER (((DELL_COMPUTER is the XP machine)))

From the XP computer:
Pinging OMEGA_COMPUTER.home [192.168.1.3} with 32 bytes of data
Request timed out
Request timed out
Request timed out
Request timed out
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
>
> If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is
> correct along with other settings.
> = ipconfig ^ /all

I attempted to do the batch file but....I have no way of getting that
file from the 98SE machine to this XP machine. Thus, I had to copy/type
this entry.

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name: OMEGA_COMPUTER.home
DNS Servers: 192.168.1.1
Node Type: Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID
IP Routing Enabled: No
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: No

Ethernet adapter:
Description: Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address: 00-A0-CC-E4-85-B8
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server: 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease Obtained: 09 06 07 8:31:35AM
Lease Expires: 09 07 07 8:31:34AM

> If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after each
> command (98 may be different):
>
> =ipconfig ^ /release
> =ipconfig ^ /flushdns
> =ipconfig ^ /renew
> =ipconfig ^ /registerdns
> =exit

The results on all fore of the above were the same.

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Command line options::
/All - Display detailed information.
/Batch [file} - Write to file or ./WINIPCFG.OUT
/renew_all - Renew all adapters.
/release_all - Release all adapters.
/renew N - Renew adapter N.
/release N - Release adapter N.

I think I see in your next message that you modified the list I ran to
the list I just typed. I will run things again for the record.

Here I am again with the updated results.

No change in all of the ping tests.

ipconfig /all
All results were the same as before with one exception--the time changed
under Lease Obtained and Lease Expires (under Ethernet Adapter).

ipconfig/batch
IP address: 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

/renew_all
IP ConfigurationError
DHCP Server Unavailable: Renewing adapter ""
Windows 98 IP Configuration
0 Ethernet adapter:
IP address: 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway:

When I ran /renew N and /release N, I got the same response.

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Command line options::
/All - Display detailed information.
/Batch [file} - Write to file or ./WINIPCFG.OUT
/renew_all - Renew all adapters.
/release_all - Release all adapters.
/renew N - Renew adapter N.
/release N - Release adapter N.

> If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only
> and exit.
>
> Shut down the machine.

I did - both machines.

> Pull the power from the router.

I did.

> Pull the power from the modem.

Not sure how to do this one. The LAN card is internal to the 98SE box.
It, along with everything else installed in the 98SE box,
automatically turns off when I shut down the 98SE system. Does this
cover pulling the power from the modem? Speaking of modem, I still have
the old dial-up modem installed in my 98SE system. It, however, was not
causing any difficulties prior to all of this problem activity starting.
I only mention this because the backup I installed on the 98SE hard
drive was from the time I was using a dial-up connection.

> Wait approx 30 secs.

I did.

> Apply power to the modem and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
> the cable.

I applied power to the 98SE box...everything was powered up at one time.

> Apply power to the router and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
> the modem.

I did.

> Power up the machine.

See above.

> The machine should now be assigned a new IP from the router.
> Run ipconfig or attempt net connection to test.

I ran everything again, and the results were the same.
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

....snip
| ****Related subject note. I received the following error message on
| the first MS/DOS window immediately after startup:
|
| error:
| Memory Manager not detected
| PCI audio driver requires EEM386 or similar
| PCI audio driver NOT loading

For this one... "START button, Run, SysEdit",
& check Config.sys to see it loads EMM386.exe. Really, the first 3 lines
should be...

DEVICE=C:\Windows\HIMEM.sys
DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.exe NOEMS
DOS=HIGH,UMB,AUTO

That should eliminate the error message & perhaps clear up the problem
with the Audio Device in Device Manager in Safe Mode as well.

....snip
| Frog

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

Frog wrote:
> Something happened late last night that tells me this is likely (in my
> beginner's mind), that I have a hardware problem. I, in fact, had an
> internet connection on the 98SE machine for about 3 minutes; and then
> the contact was gone again. No changes were made to anything
> immediately before the connection was made. After the connection was
> made, however, I downloaded a new version on my virus scan and loaded
> that on my system. Next, I loaded my firewall. I then noticed that the
> virus scan was attempting to update without success. I thought this was
> likely the firewall doing something, so I removed it from the system.
> The virus scan continued its attempt to update without success. I then
> tried to see if I had mail on the server...that didn't work. The bottom
> line in my mind is--the 98SE settings must be correct if it connected
> once. Thus, that would signal to me that I have a bad connection cable
> to the router or a bad LAN card. That is my armature thinking...could I
> be close? Once I finish this message, I will once again switch cables
> on the two machines to see what happens. If the 98SE system can't
> connect using the XP cable, that would once again rule out a problem
> with the cable.

I made the cable switch, and the XP machine was able to connect using
the 98SE cable. The 98SE machine,however,was not able to connect using
the XP cable.

I got a funny window during the cable switch, that makes me think
something (a virus) is still active on my 98SE machine. During the
start up of the system, I noticed the following:

Trend ChipAwayVirus(R) On Gard
Detecting Primary Master....ST330621A
Detecting Primary Slave.....IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI
Detecting Secondary Master..PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210a
Detecting Secondary Slave...None

PCI Card plugged in Slot2 share IRQ with Promise IDE Controller.

Press F1 to continue...
03/06/2001-VIA-KT133A -<7V133>

Can anybody tell me what this means and what I should do with this
information, if anything?

The next item back in the chain of things would be the
> LAN card. I don't have an extra LAN card, so I would have to make a
> trip to the store for that item. Any thoughts you have on why this
> temporary connection occurred would be appreciated.
>
> Now, on to answering this message.
>
> Brian A. wrote:
>> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>> You don't have any responses to the connection tests below.
>>>
>>> From here on down, I don't know how to proceed. I clicked Start>Run,
>>> and typed in cmd; and I received the following message:
>>>
>>> Cannot find the file 'cmd' (or one of its components). Make sure the
>>> path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are
>>> available.
>>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).
>>
>> Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press
>> Enter.
>> At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
>> **Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or ^.
>>
>> =ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
>> If it times out then there is no communication between the router and
>> machine.
>> If not then the machine communicates with the router.
>
> Here are the results for ping 192.168.1.1
>
> Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
> Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 0ms,Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
>>
>> =ping ^ google.com
>> If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
>> If not then net connection is established and all is well.
>
> Unknown host google.com
>>
>
>> ping 127.0.0.1
>> If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.
>
> Ping 127.0.0.1: with 32 bytes of data
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1 ms, Average = 0ms
>>
>> Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
>> =ping ^ computername
>> If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.
>
> From the 98SE computer:
> Unknown host DELL_COMPUTER (((DELL_COMPUTER is the XP machine)))
>
> From the XP computer:
> Pinging OMEGA_COMPUTER.home [192.168.1.3} with 32 bytes of data
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
> Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
>>
>> If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is
>> correct along with other settings.
>> = ipconfig ^ /all
>
> I attempted to do the batch file but....I have no way of getting that
> file from the 98SE machine to this XP machine. Thus, I had to copy/type
> this entry.
>
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> Host Name: OMEGA_COMPUTER.home
> DNS Servers: 192.168.1.1
> Node Type: Broadcast
> NetBIOS Scope ID
> IP Routing Enabled: No
> WINS Proxy Enabled: No
> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: No
>
> Ethernet adapter:
> Description: Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
> Physical Address: 00-A0-CC-E4-85-B8
> DHCP Enabled: Yes
> IP Address 192.168.1.1
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
> DHCP Server: 192.168.1.1
> Primary WINS Server:
> Secondary WINS Server:
> Lease Obtained: 09 06 07 8:31:35AM
> Lease Expires: 09 07 07 8:31:34AM
>
>> If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after
>> each command (98 may be different):
>>
>> =ipconfig ^ /release
>> =ipconfig ^ /flushdns
>> =ipconfig ^ /renew
>> =ipconfig ^ /registerdns
>> =exit
>
> The results on all fore of the above were the same.
>
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> Command line options::
> /All - Display detailed information.
> /Batch [file} - Write to file or ./WINIPCFG.OUT
> /renew_all - Renew all adapters.
> /release_all - Release all adapters.
> /renew N - Renew adapter N.
> /release N - Release adapter N.
>
> I think I see in your next message that you modified the list I ran to
> the list I just typed. I will run things again for the record.
>
> Here I am again with the updated results.
>
> No change in all of the ping tests.
>
> ipconfig /all
> All results were the same as before with one exception--the time changed
> under Lease Obtained and Lease Expires (under Ethernet Adapter).
>
> ipconfig/batch
> IP address: 192.168.1.3
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
>
> /renew_all
> IP ConfigurationError
> DHCP Server Unavailable: Renewing adapter ""
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> 0 Ethernet adapter:
> IP address: 0.0.0.0
> Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
> Default Gateway:
>
> When I ran /renew N and /release N, I got the same response.
>
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> Command line options::
> /All - Display detailed information.
> /Batch [file} - Write to file or ./WINIPCFG.OUT
> /renew_all - Renew all adapters.
> /release_all - Release all adapters.
> /renew N - Renew adapter N.
> /release N - Release adapter N.
>
>> If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only
>> and exit.
>>
>> Shut down the machine.
>
> I did - both machines.
>
>> Pull the power from the router.
>
> I did.
>
>> Pull the power from the modem.
>
> Not sure how to do this one. The LAN card is internal to the 98SE box.
> It, along with everything else installed in the 98SE box, automatically
> turns off when I shut down the 98SE system. Does this cover pulling the
> power from the modem? Speaking of modem, I still have the old dial-up
> modem installed in my 98SE system. It, however, was not causing any
> difficulties prior to all of this problem activity starting. I only
> mention this because the backup I installed on the 98SE hard drive was
> from the time I was using a dial-up connection.
>
>> Wait approx 30 secs.
>
> I did.
>
>> Apply power to the modem and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
>> the cable.
>
> I applied power to the 98SE box...everything was powered up at one time.
>
>> Apply power to the router and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
>> the modem.
>
> I did.
>
>> Power up the machine.
>
> See above.
>
>> The machine should now be assigned a new IP from the router.
>> Run ipconfig or attempt net connection to test.
>
> I ran everything again, and the results were the same.
>>
>>

 

[PCR]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:e4pEfH17HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| PCR,
|
| Sorry about calling you PRC---does this XP-irradiation initially
| show up in a disconnect between the brain and fingers?

That often is first. After that, your toes turn blue because your
earlobes have turned purple & fallen on them!

| If so, I
| think I am in big trouble. I think Glen would verify that from some
| of the
| finger disconnects I have made in exchanges with him during the past.
| In any event, thanks for your message. I will place my thoughts, as
| appropriate, below your comments.

I am glad glee has stepped in to verify your Device Manager readings in
Safe Mode. Little doubt he has greater experience & knowledge on this
matter & possibly a few others (& possibly so does Brian A.).
Nevertheless, I'll add anything I can inline below, if anything.

I see also PA Bear came up with an article. Looks like tough reading,
but could be well worth it-- but it may suffer of XP/Vista-terminology
irradiation. I see it uses "cmd" instead of "command", just as Brian A.
initially did! But things like verifying the cables are plugged in
securely & plugged in the right order certainly do apply. I see you drew
a diagram for glee on the order...

Box on outside of house---------router-------plug on back of 98SE box
|----------plug on back of XP box

...., & I'll have to let him comment. I know nothing of what it should
look like. I think you said the modem is no longer used, but Bear's
article & even glee continue to mention it-- to check it is connected to
the wall. (But the only wall connection I can divine on my own modem is
the phone line.) Your diagram does look different from the sample glee
drew, but I'm guessing more than one configuration is possible. I guess
where you say "plug on back (of computer)" it likely is a modem plug.
Also, I know you've said the 98 did connect briefly to the NET. That's
got to be a hopeful sign. Also, I see you have given PING & IPCONFIG
output to Brian A. It looks pretty sad to me, but he may find something
hopeful in it or some way to fix it.

I think glee may have guessed the true problem to be that the backup you
restored was unaware of hardware changes. It probably is worthwhile
playing a bit more with settings & such before trying a clean install of
Win98.

| PCR wrote:
|> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
|> news:ONnH4yn7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
|> | I am sending this message from my XP machine (being radiated
|> | according to PRC), I can't get my Windows 98SE machine to connect
|> | to the internet.
|>
|> It's a semi-serious symptom of XP-irradiation for you to misspell me
|> into PRC! I am PCR! Therefore, you must hurry up & solve this
|> problem!
|
| I'm ready to solve this problem. FYI, it all started with my
| attempting to learn something about Ubuntu. I read as much as I
| could about this operating system as I could before taking the
| plunge. I learned that it does not play nicely with Windows and
| should be put into its own partition. After further discussion, I
| was advised that Wubi would make it possible to have this operating
| system on the same system as Windows. I was still skeptical about
| this, so I proceeded to have a new hard
| drive (12GB) installed with five partitions. I had the C, D and E
| cloned from my old hard drive to the new hard drive. I then proceeded
| with my attempt to install Wubi/Ubuntu on the empty F drive. Well,
| that did not work; and I could not remove all of the leftovers from
| this
| failed attempt. Back to the shop to have them format the 120GB hard
| drive and clone the original information back again. At this point I
| thought all was going well--was I wrong. Somewhere along this path I
| picked up a virus that really killed my system. It removed the
| Program Files folder and sub folders, it removed many DLL files,
| would not let
| me connect to the internet, ICONs on the desktop started changing to
| Microsoft ICONs--and no longer worked, etc.. Needless to say, I had a
| computer in bad shape. I decided to reinstall the old original hard
| drive back in my computer and wouldn't you know it--it also had the
| same problem. Thus, I'm not pointing any XP-irradiated fingers; but
| I think
| I got the virus while the computer was in the shop.

It could have been a virus. But doing big things like replacing one hard
drive with another could have done it too. For instance, maybe it was
necessary to enter BIOS & have it redetect the geometry (size, etc.) of
the new drive. And, if partitioning was done, depending upon the tool
used, it may have been necessary to reboot between FDISK & FORMAT.
Things like that! Also, I don't know what Wubi/Ubuntu might have done.

| It is now over a
| week that I have been trying to rebuild my 98SE computer (by
| installing
| a backup Image for DOS backup copy from May,2006, last year). This
| image was made prior to switching from Dial-up to Verizon FiOS.

As glee said, that could be the root of the problem as far as connecting
to the NET. But I trust he & Brian A. will get your settings right!

| I
| really lost some valuable files during the episode--pictures and
| genealogy data--but at least I have my files up to May,2006, of last
| year. This episode will cause me to backup my system more often, that
| is if I ever get it working again.

Absolutely-- make a fresh backup before & after every big change!

| Also, for me, I found the Wibu and
| Ubuntu world lacking in clearly defined details on how to accomplish
| most tasks. It presumes, I think, that users have some programming
| skills--clearly, I have no programming skills at all. That is my two
| cents on this subject.

It could have been something Wibu & Ubunto did or something bad that
happened with partitioning or something before/during its install. They
sound like big things. (I don't know.)

| I think you may have unearthed several problems, when you told me to
| check Device Manager in Safe Mode (see more later on in this message).

OK. But I see glee thankfully got to it before me!

|>
|> | Problem: My Windows 98SE machine had a run in with a very damaging
|> | virus. I have formatted the disk in this computer(loosing all of
|> | my data files in the process). To this point, I have reloaded
|> | most of the software that was originally on this machine.
|>
|> Did any software come with the router?
|
| No, the Verizon technician simply turned on the box and it worked. If
| it gets out of whack, you simply unplug the router from the power for
| 30 seconds, and it will reprogram its self.
|
| Was that installed?

I guess so, if that's all the tech did. I guess the router does all its
work before the computer gets involved. It gets between the NET & the
computer or modem. Then, as far as the computer is concerned, it's still
dealing with just the... modem, I guess. But I'm afraid I don't know
anything about it. Are you sure your modem is totally uninvolved?
Something has to do the dialing, doesn't it?

| Yes, it belongs to Verizon, and it was installed by the Verizon
| technician.
|
| I do see that
|> the router does work on the XP-machine & even the cable does work.
|> What about your DUN connectoid?
|
| PCR, you are getting technical on me...DUN connectoid is a foreign
| language to me. Help!

But I don't know much about that, either. It's what you click to connect
to the NET-- it's just a NetZero icon to me! It does the dialing. I
think you mentioned the steps to create one of your own elsewhere in
this thread, which is... "START, Programs, Accessories, Communications,
Internet Connections Wizard". Too bad Verizon didn't create yours. I can
give you the settings NetZero made for me, but I doubt it would be the
same. (I'm in over my head with that & with the router too.)

| Mine is set up by NetZero. What sets up
|> yours?
|>
|> | At the moment, I
|> | cannot figure out why I can't make a connection from this machine
|> | to the router, and ultimately to my Verizon FiOS ISP. I
|> | evidentially have a setting somewhere along the line that is
|> | incorrect.
|>
|> It does sound like a setting problem or perhaps you have not
|> installed something. Do you get any error message at all?
|
| The only thing I have seen so far has to do with a piece of hardware
| that it wants drivers for--PCI Multimedia Audio Device. I'm not
| seeing any thing else out of the normal.

For that, try the change to Config.sys I posted elsewhere in this
thread.

|>
|> | Here are
|> | the steps I have taken to establish an internet connection:
|> |
|> | Windows 98SE actions:
|> |
|> | I am not sure about the Network (98SE) settings as compared to the
|> | My Network Places (XP) settings. I do believe, however, that the
|> | 98SE Network settings are correct.
|>
|> I think it probably best to work with Brian A. on that once he has
|> disentangled from his XP-entanglement. It will take someone with a
|> router connected (I am not) to examine his Win98 settings for you.
|> Also, I've never set up my own DUN connectoid.
|>
|> | I do not find any indicators that anything is wrong in the Device
|> | Manager--no red Xs, yellow ?s, etc.
|>
|> I think it best to stick with Brian A. despite his irradiation. As a
|> last resort, perhaps boot to Safe Mode, & see whether a ghost device
|> shows up in Device Manager under Modem or Network Adapters. If so,
|> delete ALL the devices under the category, & reboot to Normal Mode.
|>
|> I wonder whether something should be showing up in Device Manager
|> that mentions the router? If so, look for a ghost that shows up in
|> that category too.
|
| No router noted in Safe Mode Device Manager.

OK. That begins to sound normal to me. It likely is true that Windows
has & needs no knowlegde of the router at all. It's transparent.

| Here is what I see in
| the Safe Mode Device Manager (and this is where there appears to be
| some big time problems that I don't know how to fix):
|
| Computer
| -CDROM
| Plextor CD-R PX-W1210A
| Samsung CD-ROM SCR-3230

If you actually have both connected, let them alone. Otherwise, remove
them both in Safe Mode, & reboot to Normal Mode. In that case, Windows
should automatically find the right one & reload it. Hopefully, that is
done without it requesting you insert a CD or that you do have the CD
when requested.

Or, remove just the one(s) you know no longer to be connected.

| -Disk Drives
| GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47
| GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
| IOMEGA ZIP 100
| OLYMPUS C750UZ
|
| ((((Where are the hard disk partitions you ask--see later on in this
| data stream.))))

That does look different from mine. I hesitate to ask that you fool with
it. I see glee did not. Of course, I'm looking at mine in Normal Mode,
but I see...

GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01
GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE02
GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK

Mine is normal for two hard drives connected & none of your other stuff
but the floppy. I'm just wondering why you have a TYPE47 & not an 01.
But I think someone else may have posted like that, & it may also be
normal depending on the hard drive. Or, can it be it would show up like
that even for me in Safe Mode?

I guess you'd better let that one alone-- except maybe delete your
extras if you know they are gone. I am offline, or I'd Google for
TYPE47.

| -Display adapters
| NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 12.41
| Trident 9685/9680/9682/9385/9382/9385-1 PCI

I think you've done well with that by glee's instructions.

| -Floppy disk controllers
| Standard Floppy Disk Controller
| -Hard disk controllers
| Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
| Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
| VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller

Those all look good to me.

| -Human Interface Devices
| USB Human Interface Device

I don't have that, but others have mentioned it & I see glee had no
objection.

| -Imaging Device
| EPSON Perfection 1650

Keep it, if you know you have one. Otherwise, it is a ghost & should be
removed.

| -Keyboard
| Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
| -Modem
| HSP56 MicroModem

Those look good. This modem probably is what the router plugs into.

| -Monitors
| COMPAQ V70 Color Monitor
| CTX 1451
| CTX 1451
| Default Monitor
| Default Monitor
| LG Studio Works 78i
| LG Studio Works 78i
| Plug and Play Monitor
|
| ((((The only monitor I have ever had on this system is the LG Studio
| Works 78i.))))

I see you have settled that with glee. Maybe Google for a driver, if you
absolutely cannot find your CD that came with the monitor.

| -Mouse
| HID-compliant mouse
| PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port

I hesitate to have you fool with the mouse. But, if you know one of
those is no longer connected, maybe remove it.

| -Network Adapters
| Linksy LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
| Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
| -Other devices ((((This entry is preceded by a yellow question
| mark.)))) PCI Communication Device ((((Yellow question mark
| here also.))))
|
| ((((I really don't know what this yellow question mark item refers to
| on my system.))))

I'm going to leave that one to glee. And I don't care if he has other
commitments!

|
| -Ports (COM & LPT)
| Communications Port (COM1)
| Communications Port (COM5)
| ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

I don't have the COM5-- but I suppose yours could be normal anyhow. Who
knows? Mine could look like that in Safe Mode too.

| -SCSI controllers
| OLYMPUS USB Digital Camera SCSI
| Win95-98 Promise Ultra100(tm) IDE Controller (PDC20265)

I don't have any SCSI. I guess this is fine, & it supports that OLYMPUS
entry under Disk Drives. Best leave all that alone.

| -Sound, video and game controllers
| BDA IPSink
| BDA MPE Filter
| BDA Slip DE-Framer
| Closed Caption Decoder
| Creative Gameport Joystick
| Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI128
| Microsoft Streaming Clock Proxy
| Microsoft Streaming Service Proxy
| Microsoft Streaming Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter
| Microsoft Streaming Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter
| NABTS/FEC VBI Codec
| Sound Blaster PCI128 Legacy Device
| Wave Device for Voice Modum
| World Standard Teletext Codec

I see glee said that is normal in Safe Mode. Lucky he dropped in! (I'll
have to go & see what mine looks like, if I can remember.) In Normal
Mode, I have just...

ESS Allegro-1 Device Manager
ESS Allegro-1 DOS Emulation
ESS Allegro-1 PCI AudioDrive
Gameport Joystick

| ((((I have a Sound Blaster PCI128 card in my system.))))
|
| -System devices
| ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
| ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
| ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
| ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
| ACPI Power Button
| Acpi System Button
| Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS
| Composite Power Source
| Direct memory access controller
| IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator
| Motherboard resources
| Motherboard resources
| Numeric data processor
| PCI bus
| Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator
| Processor support
| Programmable interrupt controller
| SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus
| System board
| System Board extension for ACPI BIOS
| System CMOS/real time clock
| System speaker
| System timer
| VIA Tech CPU to AGP Controller
| VIA Tech Standard CPU to PCI Bridge
| VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge
| VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller
| -Universal Serial Bus Controllers
| Generic USB Digital Camera 0105
| USB Root Hub
| USB Root Hub
| VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
| VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
|
| ((((I have two USB ports on the back of my computer, one of which is
| plugged into a USB hub.))))

That all looks normal to me, except I have no camera. Yes, there are 2
Hubs & 2 Controllers for me too.

| On the System Properties page, Performance Tab, I have the following
| showing: ((((I think I have some big time errors here---ones that may
| be the cause of my internet connection problems. It seems that my
| hard drives are working via DOS connections. I don't know how to
| change this to where it belongs.))))
|
| Performance status in safe mode.
| Memory - 512.0 MB of RAM
| System Resources - 86% free
| File System - Some drivers are using MS-DOS compatibility
| Virtual Memory - MS-DOS compatibility mode
| Disk Compression - Not installed
| PC Cards (PCMCIA) - No PC Card sockets are installed
|
| Select an item, and then click details for more information.
| Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance.
| Drive A is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
| Drive B is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
| Drive C is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
| Drive D is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.
| Drive E is using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system.

Yep. As glee said & you verified, it all looks lots better in Normal
Mode.

|>
|> | I established settings under "Internet Options" for my Verizon ISP.
|>
|> You mean at the Connections tab?
|
| Yes, another green fingers and memory problem.

OK. Keep an eye on your toes. Get this whole problem solved before three
turn blue!

| I never had to do that for NetZero.
|> Though I've gone in there & looked & played a bit with it on my own--
|> NetZero really showed up in there all on its own after installation!
|> Why didn't Verizon?
|>
|> | I called Verizon for help and they say that they can't help me
|> | with a problem until I successfully connect to the internet.
|> |
|> | SeaMonkey (my Windows 98SE default browser):
|> |
|> | I have repeatedly checked the Seamonkey settings on the 98SE
|> | machine against the settings on this XP machine--all setting are
|> | the same.
|> |
|> | I created a new profile when installing SeaMonkey.
|> |
|> | I have created new "Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings" (settings
|> | are the same as those on the XP machine).
|> |
|> |
|> | Conclusion: I am out of ideas as to how to solve this problem. Do
|> | any of you have any suggestions? If not, I'm afraid that I will
|> | continue my XP radiation until I find the solution.
|>
|> You already exhibit deliterious symptoms by spelling me wrong!
|
| Again, what is your handle--maybe this is more serious that I
| originally thought. Your help is always welcome. Thanks,Frog

I am PCR, I said!

|>
|> | Thanks in advance for any lifesavers thrown my way.
|>
|> You are welcome.
|>
|> | Frog

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Frog]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

PCR wrote:
> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> news:ONnH4yn7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
> | I am sending this message from my XP machine (being radiated according
> | to PRC), I can't get my Windows 98SE machine to connect to the
> | internet.
>
> It's a semi-serious symptom of XP-irradiation for you to misspell me
> into PRC! I am PCR! Therefore, you must hurry up & solve this problem!
>
> | Problem: My Windows 98SE machine had a run in with a very damaging
> | virus. I have formatted the disk in this computer(loosing all of my
> | data files in the process). To this point, I have reloaded most of
> | the software that was originally on this machine.
>
> Did any software come with the router?

No. The router was taken directly out of the box and plugged in to the
incomming FiOS line. A line out of this box was connected to the XP
machine. Once the router is connected to the power, it goes from there.
I observed the technician talking on the phone with somebody at
Verizon. Once that was done, the XP machine was basically hooked up to
FiOS. If for some reason the computer is not connecting to Verizon, I
have been told to simply unplug it from the power for 30 seconds and it
will reprogram itself. After the router is again connected to the
power, the lights will flicker on the router for a few seconds; and then
all the lights will turn green. That is all there is to the router.

Was that installed? I do see that
> the router does work on the XP-machine & even the cable does work. What
> about your DUN connectoid? Mine is set up by NetZero. What sets up
> yours?

Once the computer is powered up it makes an immediate connection to the
Internet. It is constantly connected to the Internet until the power is
turned off. There is no ICON to click or any type of dialing involved.
One of those little gremlins in the system does this automatically. I
would prefer to have some way of controlling this feature, but to date I
have found no such on/off switch.
>
> | At the moment, I
> | cannot figure out why I can't make a connection from this machine to
> | the router, and ultimately to my Verizon FiOS ISP. I evidentially
> | have a setting somewhere along the line that is incorrect.
>
> It does sound like a setting problem or perhaps you have not installed
> something. Do you get any error message at all?

No error messages other than those I have identified in this thread. I
think most of those have been resolved.
>
> | Here are
> | the steps I have taken to establish an internet connection:
> |
> | Windows 98SE actions:
> |
> | I am not sure about the Network (98SE) settings as compared to the My
> | Network Places (XP) settings. I do believe, however, that the 98SE
> | Network settings are correct.
>
> I think it probably best to work with Brian A. on that once he has
> disentangled from his XP-entanglement. It will take someone with a
> router connected (I am not) to examine his Win98 settings for you. Also,
> I've never set up my own DUN connectoid.
>
> | I do not find any indicators that anything is wrong in the Device
> | Manager--no red Xs, yellow ?s, etc.
>
> I think it best to stick with Brian A. despite his irradiation. As a
> last resort, perhaps boot to Safe Mode, & see whether a ghost device
> shows up in Device Manager under Modem or Network Adapters. If so,
> delete ALL the devices under the category, & reboot to Normal Mode.

I did remove the Yellow ? items from the Device Manager. I then booted
back to normal mode, and the items were not in the Device Manager. I
then booted Safe Mode, and the items were not in the Device Manager
there either. I think (and I emphasize think) that they may be gone for
good.
>
> I wonder whether something should be showing up in Device Manager that
> mentions the router? If so, look for a ghost that shows up in that
> category too.

I don't find anything in the Device Manager that seems to be connected
to the router.
>
> | I established settings under "Internet Options" for my Verizon ISP.
>
> You mean at the Connections tab?

Yes--another problem with XP exposure.

I never had to do that for NetZero.
> Though I've gone in there & looked & played a bit with it on my own--
> NetZero really showed up in there all on its own after installation! Why
> didn't Verizon?

I don't know the reason, but Verizon is not found on the system except
in the browser window--search tab and direct connection to Verizon help
files. It could be some Verizon control feature.
>
> | I called Verizon for help and they say that they can't help me with a
> | problem until I successfully connect to the internet.
> |
> | SeaMonkey (my Windows 98SE default browser):
> |
> | I have repeatedly checked the Seamonkey settings on the 98SE machine
> | against the settings on this XP machine--all setting are the same.
> |
> | I created a new profile when installing SeaMonkey.
> |
> | I have created new "Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings" (settings are
> | the same as those on the XP machine).
> |
> |
> | Conclusion: I am out of ideas as to how to solve this problem. Do any
> | of you have any suggestions? If not, I'm afraid that I will continue
> | my XP radiation until I find the solution.
>
> You already exhibit deliterious symptoms by spelling me wrong!

I think I got this in my head, PCR. I have been attempting to respond
to messages (all very much appreciated) while attempting to do the tasks
recommended in these messages. I feel like I need a vacation---maybe, I
will take this computer with me and use it for a boat anchor---no,I
haven't given up yet. I will just keep praying and applying what little
skills I have towards finding a solution to my problems. I have said
this before, and I will say it again--without the help I have received
from this group of outstanding and knowledgeable individuals, I would be
in deep problems most of the time..great group of people. God will
reward them, I am sure, for being willing to help others with their
problems.
>
> | Thanks in advance for any lifesavers thrown my way.
>
> You are welcome.
>
> | Frog
>

 

[MEB]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

Turn OFF your Trend BIOS anti-virus/hard drive protection... seems to
always cause issues ...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:OqbNmzL8HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Frog wrote:
| > Something happened late last night that tells me this is likely (in my
| > beginner's mind), that I have a hardware problem. I, in fact, had an
| > internet connection on the 98SE machine for about 3 minutes; and then
| > the contact was gone again. No changes were made to anything
| > immediately before the connection was made. After the connection was
| > made, however, I downloaded a new version on my virus scan and loaded
| > that on my system. Next, I loaded my firewall. I then noticed that the
| > virus scan was attempting to update without success. I thought this was
| > likely the firewall doing something, so I removed it from the system.
| > The virus scan continued its attempt to update without success. I then
| > tried to see if I had mail on the server...that didn't work. The bottom
| > line in my mind is--the 98SE settings must be correct if it connected
| > once. Thus, that would signal to me that I have a bad connection cable
| > to the router or a bad LAN card. That is my armature thinking...could I
| > be close? Once I finish this message, I will once again switch cables
| > on the two machines to see what happens. If the 98SE system can't
| > connect using the XP cable, that would once again rule out a problem
| > with the cable.
|
| I made the cable switch, and the XP machine was able to connect using
| the 98SE cable. The 98SE machine,however,was not able to connect using
| the XP cable.
|
| I got a funny window during the cable switch, that makes me think
| something (a virus) is still active on my 98SE machine. During the
| start up of the system, I noticed the following:
|
| Trend ChipAwayVirus(R) On Gard
| Detecting Primary Master....ST330621A
| Detecting Primary Slave.....IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI
| Detecting Secondary Master..PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210a
| Detecting Secondary Slave...None
|
| PCI Card plugged in Slot2 share IRQ with Promise IDE Controller.
|
| Press F1 to continue...
| 03/06/2001-VIA-KT133A -<7V133>
|
| Can anybody tell me what this means and what I should do with this
| information, if anything?
|
| The next item back in the chain of things would be the
| > LAN card. I don't have an extra LAN card, so I would have to make a
| > trip to the store for that item. Any thoughts you have on why this
| > temporary connection occurred would be appreciated.
| >
| > Now, on to answering this message.
| >
| > Brian A. wrote:
| >> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
| >> news:%23FFnBR97HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >> <snipped>
| >>>>
| >>>> You don't have any responses to the connection tests below.
| >>>
| >>> From here on down, I don't know how to proceed. I clicked Start>Run,
| >>> and typed in cmd; and I received the following message:
| >>>
| >>> Cannot find the file 'cmd' (or one of its components). Make sure the
| >>> path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are
| >>> available.
| >>>
| >> <snipped>
| >>
| >> I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).
| >>
| >> Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press
| >> Enter.
| >> At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
| >> **Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or
^.
| >>
| >> =ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
| >> If it times out then there is no communication between the router and
| >> machine.
| >> If not then the machine communicates with the router.
| >
| > Here are the results for ping 192.168.1.1
| >
| > Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data
| > Request timed out
| > Request timed out
| > Request timed out
| > Request timed out
| > Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
| > Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
| > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
| > Minimum = 0ms,Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
| >>
| >> =ping ^ google.com
| >> If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
| >> If not then net connection is established and all is well.
| >
| > Unknown host google.com
| >>
| >
| >> ping 127.0.0.1
| >> If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.
| >
| > Ping 127.0.0.1: with 32 bytes of data
| > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
| > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
| > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
| > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
| > Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1
| > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
| > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
| > Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1 ms, Average = 0ms
| >>
| >> Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
| >> =ping ^ computername
| >> If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.
| >
| > From the 98SE computer:
| > Unknown host DELL_COMPUTER (((DELL_COMPUTER is the XP machine)))
| >
| > From the XP computer:
| > Pinging OMEGA_COMPUTER.home [192.168.1.3} with 32 bytes of data
| > Request timed out
| > Request timed out
| > Request timed out
| > Request timed out
| > Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
| > Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
| >>
| >> If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is
| >> correct along with other settings.
| >> = ipconfig ^ /all
| >
| > I attempted to do the batch file but....I have no way of getting that
| > file from the 98SE machine to this XP machine. Thus, I had to copy/type
| > this entry.
| >
| > Windows 98 IP Configuration
| > Host Name: OMEGA_COMPUTER.home
| > DNS Servers: 192.168.1.1
| > Node Type: Broadcast
| > NetBIOS Scope ID
| > IP Routing Enabled: No
| > WINS Proxy Enabled: No
| > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: No
| >
| > Ethernet adapter:
| > Description: Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter
| > Physical Address: 00-A0-CC-E4-85-B8
| > DHCP Enabled: Yes
| > IP Address 192.168.1.1
| > Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
| > Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
| > DHCP Server: 192.168.1.1
| > Primary WINS Server:
| > Secondary WINS Server:
| > Lease Obtained: 09 06 07 8:31:35AM
| > Lease Expires: 09 07 07 8:31:34AM
| >
| >> If anything isn't correct, at the prompt type and press Enter after
| >> each command (98 may be different):
| >>
| >> =ipconfig ^ /release
| >> =ipconfig ^ /flushdns
| >> =ipconfig ^ /renew
| >> =ipconfig ^ /registerdns
| >> =exit
| >
| > The results on all fore of the above were the same.
| >
| > Windows 98 IP Configuration
| > Command line options::
| > /All - Display detailed information.
| > /Batch [file} - Write to file or ./WINIPCFG.OUT
| > /renew_all - Renew all adapters.
| > /release_all - Release all adapters.
| > /renew N - Renew adapter N.
| > /release N - Release adapter N.
| >
| > I think I see in your next message that you modified the list I ran to
| > the list I just typed. I will run things again for the record.
| >
| > Here I am again with the updated results.
| >
| > No change in all of the ping tests.
| >
| > ipconfig /all
| > All results were the same as before with one exception--the time changed
| > under Lease Obtained and Lease Expires (under Ethernet Adapter).
| >
| > ipconfig/batch
| > IP address: 192.168.1.3
| > Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
| > Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
| >
| > /renew_all
| > IP ConfigurationError
| > DHCP Server Unavailable: Renewing adapter ""
| > Windows 98 IP Configuration
| > 0 Ethernet adapter:
| > IP address: 0.0.0.0
| > Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
| > Default Gateway:
| >
| > When I ran /renew N and /release N, I got the same response.
| >
| > Windows 98 IP Configuration
| > Command line options::
| > /All - Display detailed information.
| > /Batch [file} - Write to file or ./WINIPCFG.OUT
| > /renew_all - Renew all adapters.
| > /release_all - Release all adapters.
| > /renew N - Renew adapter N.
| > /release N - Release adapter N.
| >
| >> If that fails reopen the command prompt, run release and flushdns only
| >> and exit.
| >>
| >> Shut down the machine.
| >
| > I did - both machines.
| >
| >> Pull the power from the router.
| >
| > I did.
| >
| >> Pull the power from the modem.
| >
| > Not sure how to do this one. The LAN card is internal to the 98SE box.
| > It, along with everything else installed in the 98SE box, automatically
| > turns off when I shut down the 98SE system. Does this cover pulling the
| > power from the modem? Speaking of modem, I still have the old dial-up
| > modem installed in my 98SE system. It, however, was not causing any
| > difficulties prior to all of this problem activity starting. I only
| > mention this because the backup I installed on the 98SE hard drive was
| > from the time I was using a dial-up connection.
| >
| >> Wait approx 30 secs.
| >
| > I did.
| >
| >> Apply power to the modem and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
| >> the cable.
| >
| > I applied power to the 98SE box...everything was powered up at one time.
| >
| >> Apply power to the router and wait for it to finish synchronizing with
| >> the modem.
| >
| > I did.
| >
| >> Power up the machine.
| >
| > See above.
| >
| >> The machine should now be assigned a new IP from the router.
| >> Run ipconfig or attempt net connection to test.
| >
| > I ran everything again, and the results were the same.
| >>
| >>
|

 

[Frog]

Internet Connection Problems (Attention everybody who helped me withthis problem.)

Internet Connection Problems (Attention everybody who helped me withthis problem.)

Thanks to everybody that helped me with my Internet-Connection Problems.

THERE IS GOOD NEWS -- MY 98SE COMPUTER IS ONCE AGAIN CONNECTING TO THE
INTERNET.

Forgive me for the capital letters, but I just feel like yelling the
good news for all to hear.

I started today thinking that I would see if my problem had anything to
do with the LAN/modem card. Thus, I made a visit to my local computer
shop to see if they could help me--the answer was yes, if I was willing
to pay $15.00 for a new card. After some discussion, I decided not to
buy the card and to return home for thinking and looking. I decided to
switch positions of the dial-up modem (not in use) and the LAN/modem
card on the motherboard. I first entered Safe Mode and removed both of
these devices from the Device Manager. Next, I turned off my computer
and removed both boards. I cleaned both boards where they plug into the
motherboard and then reinstalled them in their switched positions. The
computer was restarted, and the new hardware wizard found both devices.
I was required to install the drivers for the LAN\modem card and the
computer installed a driver for the dial-up modem card. In addition to
these two devices, I also got two additional notices where drivers were
needed...the ever present "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and a new one
"Wave Device for Voice Modem". Well, I haven't been able to figure out
what these devices are; so I can't direct the hardware update wizard to
the correct drivers. I know there must be some way to identify what
these two devices are...but I'm not smart enough to resolve these
problems yet. I then checked in the Device Manager for any yellow ? or
red Xs, etc., and none were found. I now have my virus scan software
reinstalled, and the firewall is also up and running. I will now try to
bring my software up to where it was before all of this happened
(starting from the May 2006 backup that was installed to today). I am
sure I will need more guidance before all of this is done, but for now I
will close this thread and open a new one if/when I need additional
guidance.

I do want to thank everyone who helped me and got me to this point---I
would be totally lost without your help and guidance. To be a free
source of help, the responders on this group are professional and
patient with us not-so-smart types--you're the greatest. I have made a
copy of every message in this thread for future reference--I have
learned much from this otherwise unhappy experience.

Now,PCR, I'm going to get out of this XP-irradiation for a while.

Frog

 

[Brian A.]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message news:us9JrSK8HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> <snipped>
>> I'm sorry Frog, my bad again, type command instead of cmd (XP).
>>
>> Open a command prompt, click Start > Run, type in: command and press Enter.
>> At the prompt type each command below and press Enter after each.
>> **Note: Command noted by =, Space noted by ^. Do not type the = or ^.
>>
>> =ping ^ 192.168.1.1 *Routers IP, change as necessary.
>> If it times out then there is no communication between the router and machine.
>> If not then the machine communicates with the router.
>
> Here are the results for ping 192.168.1.1
>
> Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
> Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 0ms,Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

This indicates there is no communication between the machine and the router. If
the machines network protocols/components are configured properly and from what I've
seen they are, it's most likely a firewall rule that's causing the issue.

>>
>> =ping ^ google.com
>> If it times out then there is no connection to the net.
>> If not then net connection is established and all is well.
>
> Unknown host google.com

Expected since the machine can't communicate with the router. If there is no
communication witht eh router there deffinitely won't be any communication with the
WAN.

>>
>
>> ping 127.0.0.1
>> If it fails it may be a TCP/IP stack problem.
>
> Ping 127.0.0.1: with 32 bytes of data
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes = 32 time <10ms TTL = 128
> Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1 ms, Average = 0ms

This not only indicates that the TCP/IP Stack is Ok, but the hardware is working as
well.

>>
>> Ping each computer from the other using the UNC:
>> =ping ^ computername
>> If it fails either way there's an IP or Name resolution problem.
>
> From the 98SE computer:
> Unknown host DELL_COMPUTER (((DELL_COMPUTER is the XP machine)))

Expected since there is no communication with the router.

>
> From the XP computer:
> Pinging OMEGA_COMPUTER.home [192.168.1.3} with 32 bytes of data
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Request timed out
> Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:
> Packets Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)

If from the XP machine you were able to ping the 98 machine IP but unable to ping
the 98 by UNC, that would indicate the XP ICS/firewall service is not running. This
however would not have any bearing on the 98 machine not communicating with the
router.

>>
>> If pinging times out on any address, to see if the machines IP is correct along
>> with other settings.
>> = ipconfig ^ /all
>
> I attempted to do the batch file but....I have no way of getting that file from the
> 98SE machine to this XP machine. Thus, I had to copy/type this entry.
>
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> Host Name: OMEGA_COMPUTER.home
> DNS Servers: 192.168.1.1
> Node Type: Broadcast
> NetBIOS Scope ID
> IP Routing Enabled: No
> WINS Proxy Enabled: No
> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS: No

The DNS Servers is wrong, they should have the same DNS IPs that are used by the XP
machine. The 98 machine at the moment is using the router as the DNS Server, which
it shouldn't be. The DNS IP's should be the IP(s) of your ISPs server.

On the XP machine open the cmd prompt and type in ipconfig /all. Take note of it's
DNS Server IPs and write them down.

<snipped>

Instead of running the commands I had mentioned in this section, do this:
Start > Run, type in: winipcfg and press Enter.
Click the More Info button.
Take note of the DNS Servers entry, it should not be the (Gateway) Routers IP. If it
is click on the box to the right and see if it will change to a legitimate DNS IP.

If that doesn't resolve the issue try clicking the Release All button and then the
Renew all Button.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[Curt Christianson]

Re: Internet Connection Problems (Attention everybody who helped me with this problem.)

Re: Internet Connection Problems (Attention everybody who helped me with this problem.)

Congratulations Frog! Enjoy it!

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
Practically Nerded,...
http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:eQ%23jKMZ8HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Thanks to everybody that helped me with my Internet-Connection Problems.
|
| THERE IS GOOD NEWS -- MY 98SE COMPUTER IS ONCE AGAIN CONNECTING TO THE
| INTERNET.
|
| Forgive me for the capital letters, but I just feel like yelling the
| good news for all to hear.
|
| I started today thinking that I would see if my problem had anything to
| do with the LAN/modem card. Thus, I made a visit to my local computer
| shop to see if they could help me--the answer was yes, if I was willing
| to pay $15.00 for a new card. After some discussion, I decided not to
| buy the card and to return home for thinking and looking. I decided to
| switch positions of the dial-up modem (not in use) and the LAN/modem
| card on the motherboard. I first entered Safe Mode and removed both of
| these devices from the Device Manager. Next, I turned off my computer
| and removed both boards. I cleaned both boards where they plug into the
| motherboard and then reinstalled them in their switched positions. The
| computer was restarted, and the new hardware wizard found both devices.
| I was required to install the drivers for the LAN\modem card and the
| computer installed a driver for the dial-up modem card. In addition to
| these two devices, I also got two additional notices where drivers were
| needed...the ever present "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and a new one
| "Wave Device for Voice Modem". Well, I haven't been able to figure out
| what these devices are; so I can't direct the hardware update wizard to
| the correct drivers. I know there must be some way to identify what
| these two devices are...but I'm not smart enough to resolve these
| problems yet. I then checked in the Device Manager for any yellow ? or
| red Xs, etc., and none were found. I now have my virus scan software
| reinstalled, and the firewall is also up and running. I will now try to
| bring my software up to where it was before all of this happened
| (starting from the May 2006 backup that was installed to today). I am
| sure I will need more guidance before all of this is done, but for now I
| will close this thread and open a new one if/when I need additional
| guidance.
|
| I do want to thank everyone who helped me and got me to this point---I
| would be totally lost without your help and guidance. To be a free
| source of help, the responders on this group are professional and
| patient with us not-so-smart types--you're the greatest. I have made a
| copy of every message in this thread for future reference--I have
| learned much from this otherwise unhappy experience.
|
| Now,PCR, I'm going to get out of this XP-irradiation for a while.
|
| Frog

 

[PCR]

Re: Internet Connection Problems

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:%23W5Uf1O8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| PCR wrote:

This is your second response to this post, Frog. I've answered the
first. I will answer this one too, but if your XP-irradiation induced
memory loss causes you to answer it a THIRD time-- it will be my duty to
report you to the medical authorities!

....snip
|> | Problem: My Windows 98SE machine had a run in with a very damaging
|> | virus. I have formatted the disk in this computer(loosing all of
|> | my data files in the process). To this point, I have reloaded
|> | most of the software that was originally on this machine.
|>
|> Did any software come with the router?
|
| No. The router was taken directly out of the box and plugged in to
| the incomming FiOS line. A line out of this box was connected to the
| XP machine. Once the router is connected to the power, it goes from
| there. I observed the technician talking on the phone with somebody
| at Verizon. Once that was done, the XP machine was basically hooked
| up to FiOS. If for some reason the computer is not connecting to
| Verizon, I have been told to simply unplug it from the power for 30
| seconds and it will reprogram itself. After the router is again
| connected to the power, the lights will flicker on the router for a
| few seconds; and then all the lights will turn green. That is all
| there is to the router.

OK. Very interesting. That isn't bad. I don't see what could go wrong
with that. The computer is hardly involved. I see Brian A. has responded
to your PING & IPCONFIG readings. Looks like he's onto something... it
is connected well & does work-- but it needs a settings change to the IP
Address on the 98 side. Best stick with him on that.

| Was that installed? I do see that
|> the router does work on the XP-machine & even the cable does work.
|> What about your DUN connectoid? Mine is set up by NetZero. What sets
|> up yours?
|
| Once the computer is powered up it makes an immediate connection to
| the Internet. It is constantly connected to the Internet until the
| power is turned off. There is no ICON to click or any type of
| dialing involved. One of those little gremlins in the system does
| this automatically. I would prefer to have some way of controlling
| this feature, but to date I have found no such on/off switch.

I see. That seems to be a major omission! But I guess it is normal.
Maybe get a firewall like...

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW
Suggested to me by Dundat, this little app is the cat's meow of
Firewalls. Well, it's the only I've ever tried, but it seems to have it
all & hasn't crashed yet. Free for personal use.

....that allows you to "Stop All Traffic" with a single mouse click. It
won't turn off the router, but nothing will get through it. Or, can you
at least do that already?

|>
|> | At the moment, I
|> | cannot figure out why I can't make a connection from this machine
|> | to the router, and ultimately to my Verizon FiOS ISP. I
|> | evidentially have a setting somewhere along the line that is
|> | incorrect.
|>
|> It does sound like a setting problem or perhaps you have not
|> installed something. Do you get any error message at all?
|
| No error messages other than those I have identified in this thread.
| I think most of those have been resolved.

Uhuh. Did see where I suggested a change to Config.sys...?...

| error:
| Memory Manager not detected
| PCI audio driver requires EEM386 or similar
| PCI audio driver NOT loading

For this one... "START button, Run, SysEdit",
& check Config.sys to see it loads EMM386.exe. Really, the first 3 lines
should be...

DEVICE=C:\Windows\HIMEM.sys
DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.exe NOEMS
DOS=HIGH,UMB,AUTO

That should eliminate the error message & perhaps clear up the problem
with the Audio Device in Device Manager in Safe Mode as well. It might
be interfering with the DOS Emulation driver.

....snip
|> | I do not find any indicators that anything is wrong in the Device
|> | Manager--no red Xs, yellow ?s, etc.
|>
|> I think it best to stick with Brian A. despite his irradiation. As a
|> last resort, perhaps boot to Safe Mode, & see whether a ghost device
|> shows up in Device Manager under Modem or Network Adapters. If so,
|> delete ALL the devices under the category, & reboot to Normal Mode.
|
| I did remove the Yellow ? items from the Device Manager. I then
| booted back to normal mode, and the items were not in the Device
| Manager. I then booted Safe Mode, and the items were not in the
| Device Manager there either. I think (and I emphasize think) that
| they may be gone for good.

That is good. That is done, then. And I believe Brian A. will solve the
rest.

|>
|> I wonder whether something should be showing up in Device Manager
|> that mentions the router? If so, look for a ghost that shows up in
|> that category too.
|
| I don't find anything in the Device Manager that seems to be connected
| to the router.

All right. I've learned a bit about routers from you.

|> | I established settings under "Internet Options" for my Verizon ISP.
|>
|> You mean at the Connections tab?
|
| Yes--another problem with XP exposure.

Uhuh. Brian A. is also infected, you know! But he still does recall IP
settings; so, stick with him-- then, get off that XP-machine for 7
months!

| I never had to do that for NetZero.
|> Though I've gone in there & looked & played a bit with it on my own--
|> NetZero really showed up in there all on its own after installation!
|> Why didn't Verizon?
|
| I don't know the reason, but Verizon is not found on the system except
| in the browser window--search tab and direct connection to Verizon
| help files. It could be some Verizon control feature.

That isn't bad, reallly. All you need, I think, is to find the correct
IP address. Then, you will have more favorable PING & IPCONFIG results.

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|> | Conclusion: I am out of ideas as to how to solve this problem. Do
|> | any of you have any suggestions? If not, I'm afraid that I will
|> | continue my XP radiation until I find the solution.
|>
|> You already exhibit deliterious symptoms by spelling me wrong!
|
| I think I got this in my head, PCR. I have been attempting to respond
| to messages (all very much appreciated) while attempting to do the
| tasks recommended in these messages.

You've responded to this post twice & failed to repond to at least two
others! I'm making a medical report! It is my hope you & Brian A. end up
in the same hospital for XP-irradiation therapy-- I'll put it in the
report! It seems he still does recall a thing/two that may get you a
good IP Address for the Win98 side. That seems to be the problem.

| I feel like I need a
| vacation---maybe, I will take this computer with me and use it for a
| boat anchor---no,I haven't given up yet. I will just keep praying
| and applying what little skills I have towards finding a solution to
| my problems. I have said this before, and I will say it
| again--without the help I have received from this group of
| outstanding and knowledgeable individuals, I would be in deep
| problems most of the time..great group of people. God will reward
| them, I am sure, for being willing to help others with their problems.

You are welcome. Stick with it, I think you are close!

|> | Thanks in advance for any lifesavers thrown my way.
|>
|> You are welcome.
|>
|> | Frog

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net