Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

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Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

You call verifying the color and price of a computer, research?!?!? I
suggest you sent it back, buy on of those $400 Dells with XP, and paint
that instead.

remove_@no.spam wrote:

> I researched, it was only $450 after rebate, and a very handsome
> put0r. Aluminum/sliver gray combo, the only HP model that isn't black,
> no black appliances for me! And like you said, a Vista box, but not
> for long :) They should all come preloaded with several OSes and
> the owner can boot his choice or even try them all out.
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:45:16 -0500, Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Yep, poking around on HP site looks like it is a Vista only box. Seems
>>OP didn't research purchase, although the specs seem ok if one was to
>>not turn on the eye candy.
>>
>>DL wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think you will find from op that PC was supplied with Vista and the op
>>>wished to dump vista & install win2k
>>>
>>>So not exactly a DOA, allthough they will likely finish up with an
>>>unsupported sys
>>>
>>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:OVQnjPu%23HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Seems that the correct solution would be RMAing the box back to HP, no
>>>>reason to accept a DOA box.
>>>>
>>>>remove_@no.spam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thank you. This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't
>>>>>do F6.
>>>>>
>>>>>But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue
>>>>>screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:
>>>>>inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the
>>>>>Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it
>>>>>boots on its own.
>>>>>
>>>>>I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how
>>>>>to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled
>>>>>by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine
>>>>>dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat
>>>>>5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I
>>>>>got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time
>>>>>I should learn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If its a sata controler you would either
>>>>>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k
>>>>>>installation process to install third party drivers
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata
>>>>>>drivers
>>>>>>
>>>>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
>>>>>>>Update", the files:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>nvata.cat
>>>>>>>nvstor32.inf
>>>>>>>nvstor32.sys
>>>>>>>idecoi.dll
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>what do I do now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.
>>>>>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting
>>>>>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for
>>>>>>>>the disk controller.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas
>>>>>>>>where to get disk driver?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>
 
Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

You can install 32-bit operating systems on most 64-bit processors
(providing it is not an Itanium processor). You will not have 64-bit
processing but it will run just fine in 32-bit. This is done everyday
with 32-bit XP and Vista versions, many are installed on 64-bit
processors. No different for Windows 2000, it should run fine as long
as you have the proper drivers for the hardware, that (drivers) is
usually the stumbling block, not the 64-bit processors.

John

David Webb wrote:

> I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new
> system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't believe
> that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this article,
> dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:
>
> Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?
> http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html
>
> <remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...
>
>>It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh
>>drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,
>>etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows
>>XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick
>>ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new
>>machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.
>>
>>
>>
>>....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual
>>booting win98 to test my software.
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie
>>>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.
>>>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.
>>>
>>>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie
>>>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.
>>>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.
>>>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.
>>>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you
>>>install this way?
>>>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will probably
>>>live to regret
>>>
>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
>>>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>I forgot to add . . .
>>>>
>>>>My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,
>>>>etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the
>>>>transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a
>>>>very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to
>>>>burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that
>>>>after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and
>>>>with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
 
Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

remove_@no.spam wrote:
> I should work. I recently learned how to create bootable USB flash
> drives. They show up as C: ,, you could boot Windows from it …
> endless possibilities.

*Bootable* USB device, I know for sure is a function of the BIOS.

Motherboard/BIOS's have always been a long way behind the rest of the
technology when it comes to boot options. Zip drives had been out for
years before they were included as a boot option in the BIOS. AFAIK no
versions of USB-1 were ever bootable. All of my system Motherboards are
a few years old now but all are USB-2 and none of them has a USB boot
option.

I imagine (haven't checked) that all recent motherboards would be OK though.

In the context of this thread though, *bootable* was not an issue - that
would be done from the install cd. The question was whether the install
program would recognise a USB drive to get drivers from once it got started.
 
Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

John,

Thanks for the clarification. From all the Google searches I did on this
subject, not one came up with a recommendation to marry Windows 2000 with this
processor, not even AMD's website.

I'd say that the best approach, for the OP, would be to install either Windows
XP Home, Pro, or MCE 2005, or s/he could simply wait for the Vista OS to mature.

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:emW6Yo4%23HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You can install 32-bit operating systems on most 64-bit processors
> (providing it is not an Itanium processor). You will not have 64-bit
> processing but it will run just fine in 32-bit. This is done everyday
> with 32-bit XP and Vista versions, many are installed on 64-bit
> processors. No different for Windows 2000, it should run fine as long
> as you have the proper drivers for the hardware, that (drivers) is
> usually the stumbling block, not the 64-bit processors.
>
> John
>
> David Webb wrote:
>
> > I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new
> > system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't
believe
> > that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this
article,
> > dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:
> >
> > Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?
> >
http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html
> >
> > <remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
> > news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...
> >
> >>It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh
> >>drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,
> >>etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows
> >>XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick
> >>ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new
> >>machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual
> >>booting win98 to test my software.
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie
> >>>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.
> >>>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.
> >>>
> >>>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie
> >>>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.
> >>>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.
> >>>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.
> >>>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you
> >>>install this way?
> >>>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will
probably
> >>>live to regret
> >>>
> >>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
> >>>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>>>I forgot to add . . .
> >>>>
> >>>>My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,
> >>>>etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the
> >>>>transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a
> >>>>very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to
> >>>>burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that
> >>>>after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and
> >>>>with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks in advance
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
 
Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Well, the notebook version of the processor supports Windows 2000 so I
can only assume that the desktop version also would:

Operating System Compatibility
AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual-core processors for notebook PCs are designed to
be compatible with Windows® XP Professional x64 Edition, Microsoft
Windows® XP Professional, Windows XP Home Edition, Windows 98, Windows
ME, Windows NT®, Windows 2000, Linux®, and other PC operating systems,
including Windows Vista™.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9484_15184,00.html

As I said earlier, usually it isn't the processor that is the problem,
it's the rest of the hardware that the processor is mounted on. I agree
with you however that it would be better to use a newer operating system
on these new computers. It is getting increasingly difficult to get
older operating systems to properly install on new hardware.

John

David Webb wrote:

> John,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. From all the Google searches I did on this
> subject, not one came up with a recommendation to marry Windows 2000 with this
> processor, not even AMD's website.
>
> I'd say that the best approach, for the OP, would be to install either Windows
> XP Home, Pro, or MCE 2005, or s/he could simply wait for the Vista OS to mature.
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:emW6Yo4%23HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>You can install 32-bit operating systems on most 64-bit processors
>>(providing it is not an Itanium processor). You will not have 64-bit
>>processing but it will run just fine in 32-bit. This is done everyday
>>with 32-bit XP and Vista versions, many are installed on 64-bit
>>processors. No different for Windows 2000, it should run fine as long
>>as you have the proper drivers for the hardware, that (drivers) is
>>usually the stumbling block, not the 64-bit processors.
>>
>>John
>>
>>David Webb wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new
>>>system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't
>
> believe
>
>>>that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this
>
> article,
>
>>>dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:
>>>
>>>Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?
>>>
>
> http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html
>
>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
>>>news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh
>>>>drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,
>>>>etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows
>>>>XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick
>>>>ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new
>>>>machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual
>>>>booting win98 to test my software.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie
>>>>>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.
>>>>>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.
>>>>>
>>>>>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie
>>>>>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.
>>>>>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.
>>>>>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.
>>>>>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you
>>>>>install this way?
>>>>>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will
>
> probably
>
>>>>>live to regret
>>>>>
>>>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I forgot to add . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,
>>>>>>etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the
>>>>>>transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a
>>>>>>very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to
>>>>>>burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that
>>>>>>after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and
>>>>>>with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>
 
Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Preliminary report

I did it! I installed Windows 2000 on new HP a1730n.

Windows 2000 FLIES on the dual processor! Win2k loads in seconds,
shuts down instantly, it rocks!

Went straight to SP4, clean install.

On boot, Win2k OS uses only about 100Mb of memory, Vista uses 550Mb+
(more that half a gigabyte) and it's sluggish. So now I have 1.8 GB
for MY work.

RAW format photo processing is at least 2 times faster than with
Vista. That's what I bought my new put0r for, MY work not the friggin
OS.

Dual boot is broken, have to fix the boot manager,,, and hibernation
file conflict in the C:/D: partitions (2 hiberfil.sys) , possible
pagefile conflict too , will know as soon as I boot Vista again.

Details to follow



On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:26:35 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>My new HP computer came with Vista Home Premium. I don't like Vista
>and I want to install Win2k from my old machine instead. After 6 years
>I don't know where my win2k installation CD is, but the CD is copied
>to my old hard disk and I do have my serial number. I used the serial
># when I had to reinstall win2k, and when I registered online at
>microsoft.com to get "automatic updates".
>
>I copied i386 from my old machine onto a USB flash drive and tried to
>install win2k from within Vista. I thought I would dual-boot for a
>while, but the boot loaders are conflicting and Vista is not allowing
>win2k to install. So I thought I would boot from floppy, fdisk the new
>machine and kill off Vista. But my new machine has no floppy drive, so
>. . . my question:
>
>How do I install win2k from my old machine onto the new one?
 
Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

remove_@no.spam wrote:

> Preliminary report
>
> I did it! I installed Windows 2000 on new HP a1730n.
>
> Windows 2000 FLIES on the dual processor! Win2k loads in seconds,
> shuts down instantly, it rocks!

Yes it does, Windows 2000 rocks!

Look in your Device Manager for the processors.

John
 
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