Games that are NOT fullscreen

[EFileTahi-A]

I dont know what the fixation is on fullscreen. Ive always hated them. Thats the point of windows, to have windows.

Fast forward to me getting a widescreen laptop... now fullscreen games dont even work on my computer at all.

Anyone know of games that are NOT fullscreen? I prefer RPG/Strategy/Puzzle games that you can play in a window. Diablo II was great because of this

Well if the game can be played in full screen, so in full screen it will be played!... I want the game to be immersive, if am going to play, i will ONLY pay attention to the game. Playing a game in a window is great when am doing several things at the same time (chat, 3D, Programing, music, browsing etc...) this can only be applyed to turn based games of course, like checkers, (yes, a basic game like checkers, complexier games to checkers go full screen as well) yet, even when am playing checkers online, most of the time I alt everything I was doing.

Playing and chatting at the same time means only two things for me:
1 - The conversation is comum and lacks of interest.
2 - The game is kinda boring but I have nothing else to do.

Playing an RPG (like morrowind or gothic II) in a window is like seeing a movie behind the scenes with its staff an cameras all around! Why do most of ppl go to the cinema? They can rent the movie for only 2.5

 

[Denaes]

PS:Youre the only person that i know to prefer windowed to full screen games... Well one thing is for sure, ur not an hardcore gamer like me

I prefer windowed to seeing characters stretched across too wide because the game maker doesnt provide support for widescreen monitors.

I prefer there to be the option. I wouldnt dream of telling someone how they could/couldnt play their game. I often dont have that option myself though. Its just decided for me that Im going to play it fullscreen.

I dont play a crappy video game which tells me what I can do. Arcanum and to a limited extent Baldurs Gate provide a little bit of immersion as theyre the best Ive seen at allowing you the illusion of control. I take that back. I missed Fallout 1 & 2 (hope 3 is as good with the new company working on it). Theyre much more immersive.

If I wanted immersion Id read a book, play a role playing game, go to the movies, etc. I wouldnt sit there at my desk getting angry at a game for forcing me to act a certain way or telling me how I can go about something and who I must fight.

Maybe Im jaded, but the D&D games are potentially worse because I know the rules - so I get pissed when they mess up a decent rule. Not because its easier, but because they dont understand it. Black Isle got it right on that account. The previous guys (SSI?) were awful.

And I dont want to be "immersed" into a game of solitare or Majong, but some of those games go full screen. I dont want to go fullscreen on tetris or a puzzle game. I like being able to pause it if something comes up without everything going all wiggy and the colors on the monitor getting messed up and loosing my resolution. I dont like being jerked out of fullscreen mode as Im doing something because windows has a dialogue and I dont enjoy when games automatically quit on exiting fullscreen either. That means if something comes up you have to exit then restart the game and is VERY annoying when something jerks you out of the game and you loose it without saving.

Games like Max Payne, FF X & X2, Resident Evil, That other survial horror game thats all dark... those games I can immerse myself in. to make up for the shattering loss of control, they make up for it by being more cinematic and almost like watching a movie. Funny they all happen to be on PS2 (maybe xbox also), which is full screen.

And no, I dont normally find a movie in the theatre more immersive.

Having to deal with 14 year old drug dealers talking throughout the movie with clients walking into the theatre during harry potter 3 pissed me off.

Having to get inbetween a fight because the low class 30 yr old guido (thats a musclebound flasshy hottempered person; which is normally applied to itallian guys in new york and derrived from the mafia) next to me decided it was his right to stand up and start yelling at the 14 yr old girl behind him because it was a packed theatre and she had a sprained leg of some sort and it was touching is chair durring X-2.

Having to sit in a nearly emty theatre for Van Helsing center rear (precisely 3 rows from rear - the movie G-Spot) - only like 5 people in the entire theatre and a group of 4 teenage guys walking in 10 minutes into the movie laughing and joking around and sitting in the seats RIGHT BEHIND me and my wife slurping their drinks and chewing their food like cows chew cud wasnt very immersive. We had to get up and move.

Going to watch the Blair Witch Project and having people actively calling out and mocking the movie "thats so fake!" "crybaby *****" and erruptions of laugher didnt make that a very immersive event.

Somehow turning down the the lights, turning off the ringer on the phone and popping the DVD on my 30" TV (not very large) which isnt high definition or flat screen or widescreen and without surround sound and watching the movie without fights, talking, chewing is about 9,003,383% more immersive than going to the theatre

Ill grant it the private screenings Ive had in theatres (friends who worked there) were sometimes more immersive... but when youre on a doubledate in a closed theatre, theres also more likeliness of nookie breaking out or my friend saying "Im going to the stand, want anything?" which kinda breaks it as well.

Ill grant that in theory if a game was coded properly and supported my display and had quality sound and video without forcing you to watch a movie, I would find it more immersive than windowed.

But I normally play PC games to have fun or pass the time, not be immersed

 

[EFileTahi-A]

I prefer windowed to seeing characters stretched across too wide because the game maker doesnt provide support for widescreen monitors.

Well yes, i agree with you... wide screens should be supported!

I prefer there to be the option. I wouldnt dream of telling someone how they could/couldnt play their game. I often dont have that option myself though. Its just decided for me that Im going to play it fullscreen.

Yes, having an option is always better

I dont play a crappy video game which tells me what I can do. Arcanum and to a limited extent Baldurs Gate provide a little bit of immersion as theyre the best Ive seen at allowing you the illusion of control. I take that back. I missed Fallout 1 & 2 (hope 3 is as good with the new company working on it). Theyre much more immersive.

For me, crappy games r games like age of empires... I see tons of those games in nowadays. they are so god d*** boring... but, to be honest, I dont think they are crappy. Bad games sometimes can be a truly subjective thing.. Am just bored of real time strategy games, does not mean that those games are crappy.

If I wanted immersion Id read a book, play a role playing game, go to the movies, etc. I wouldnt sit there at my desk getting angry at a game for forcing me to act a certain way or telling me how I can go about something and who I must fight.

Well, Gothic II was one of the finest games i have played so far, I rather play a good game then read a book, watch a movie or having "fun". Yet I rather be at my favorit spot (my desk) then in a beach or someplace else...

And I dont want to be "immersed" into a game of solitare or Majong, but some of those games go full screen. I dont want to go fullscreen on tetris or a puzzle game. I like being able to pause it if something comes up without everything going all wiggy and the colors on the monitor getting messed up and loosing my resolution. I dont like being jerked out of fullscreen mode as Im doing something because windows has a dialogue and I dont enjoy when games automatically quit on exiting fullscreen either. That means if something comes up you have to exit then restart the game and is VERY annoying when something jerks you out of the game and you loose it without saving.

Yes, I hate when that happens too. Having my screen messed up every time i minimize the full screens game. But, to be honest i dont think that I ever played single player tetris or majong in my computer...

Games like Max Payne, FF X & X2, Resident Evil, That other survial horror game thats all dark... those games I can immerse myself in. to make up for the shattering loss of control, they make up for it by being more cinematic and almost like watching a movie. Funny they all happen to be on PS2 (maybe xbox also), which is full screen.

resident evil was made originaly made for PS1... Max Payne was originaly made for PC, Final fantaxy.. well cant tell... the first FF was for SNES if am not wrong... Those type of games exits in PC, but I rather have Gothic II or Fallout then FF or resident evil. I had a PSX and now i have PS2, and i can tell u this.. I use PS2 to play movies only. Its games... well... cant find a decent simulator on PS2... its all arcade...

 

[EFileTahi-A]

(final part)...

And no, I dont normally find a movie in the theatre more immersive.

Well I agree with u... but most ppl have this opinion.
I rather see a movie at home... on my couch laughing and cryiing whenever i think its worthy of laughing or crying. Because in FAHRENHEIT 9/11 ppl reproved my laughs because I laugh in what they call wrong parts of the movie... For god sake, having Britney Spears saying that she trusts Bush is just a ROTFL as lound as I can!

Having to deal with 14 year old drug dealers talking throughout the movie with clients walking into the theatre during harry potter 3 pissed me off.

Having to get inbetween a fight because the low class 30 yr old guido (thats a musclebound flasshy hottempered person; which is normally applied to itallian guys in new york and derrived from the mafia) next to me decided it was his right to stand up and start yelling at the 14 yr old girl behind him because it was a packed theatre and she had a sprained leg of some sort and it was touching is chair durring X-2.

Having to sit in a nearly emty theatre for Van Helsing center rear (precisely 3 rows from rear - the movie G-Spot) - only like 5 people in the entire theatre and a group of 4 teenage guys walking in 10 minutes into the movie laughing and joking around and sitting in the seats RIGHT BEHIND me and my wife slurping their drinks and chewing their food like cows chew cud wasnt very immersive. We had to get up and move.

Going to watch the Blair Witch Project and having people actively calling out and mocking the movie "thats so fake!" "crybaby *****" and erruptions of laugher didnt make that a very immersive event.

For god sake? where are u from? course i had some issues at cinema but nothing like that OMG!

Somehow turning down the the lights, turning off the ringer on the phone and popping the DVD on my 30" TV (not very large) which isnt high definition or flat screen or widescreen and without surround sound and watching the movie without fights, talking, chewing is about 9,003,383% more immersive than going to the theatre

I cannot agree with u, I think that was a lame thing to say... i think its 9,003,383.34% more immersive (althought i hate when ppl talk and break my concetration on the movie)

Ill grant it the private screenings Ive had in theatres (friends who worked there) were sometimes more immersive... but when youre on a doubledate in a closed theatre, theres also more likeliness of nookie breaking out or my friend saying "Im going to the stand, want anything?" which kinda breaks it as well.

if my friend would do that, I would probably crucify him at the cinemas main entrance

But I normally play PC games to have fun or pass the time, not be immersed

I play games to have fun, but if game is also immersive then i will play it by, lets say, 10 hours in a row? (like a did many many days with gothic II omg!)

We have diferent options, and diferent tastes, but we have one thing in comun, we respect eachother options. Now thats a rare thing to happen
Ur a good fellow, I liked to chat with ya (and yes, we have also some options in comum).

Later mate!

PS: Say, u use messenger?

 

[Denaes]

For me, crappy games r games like age of empires... I see tons of those games in nowadays. they are so god d*** boring... but, to be honest, I dont think they are crappy. Bad games sometimes can be a truly subjective thing.. Am just bored of real time strategy games, does not mean that those games are crappy.

Well there are styles I dont like.

I normally dont First Person Shooters (or their similar), but I did enjoy max payne (maybe that slowdown bullet time ) and Silent Hill (that other scary game I couldnt remember the name to) which isnt so much of a shooter.

Im genearally not interested in "action" types so much. Just a preference.

For the most part, I despise real time strategy. It starts to give me a panic attack and then I get stressed and flip out on the computer because often times the computer is allowed to "cheat", ie not follow the same rules you do. You finally get get to the enemy HQ after building your 4th troop builder (barracks, hut, whatever its called in your game) you finally overpower them and realize that they just have one mine and one troop builder and they were outstripping your two and tying you at three!!

I like RPGs and strategy games, be they puzzle, turn based war/combat games/kingdom simulation, or whatever else. I also like solitare type games as well, but not cards. the only games I had for like 3 years on my Mac Plus was a pack of like 50 card solitare games. I hate the mac plus (not all macs, but especially the plus) and I now hate solitare card games

When I use the term crappy, it doesnt mean I dont like the game, it means that I dont like the way they implimented it. If youre playing a RPG, youre getting immersed in it, but limited.

Thats why I didnt care for most Final Fantasy games. It was like you were playing without choice. Half the game you had no choice were to go, you were basically herded and you just watched scripted scenes take place. It was a big todo in FF7 when theyd ask you questions you could answer and depending on what you chose youd go out on a date with one of two girls or a guy (you insulted both girls equally).

Final Fantasy X was good enough visually and stylistically and gave you some choices that it was good enough to get immersed into. X-2 is really too light to immerse, but at least they give you 100% choice.

Fallout and most of the black Isle titles do a good job in giving you choices and letting you play YOUR game. Planescape Torment was bomb diggity about that and graphics (at the time)!

Well, Gothic II was one of the finest games i have played so far

Im going to check this game out. I remember hearing about it or something -the name rings a bell.

, I rather play a good game then read a book, watch a movie or having "fun". Yet I rather be at my favorit spot (my desk) then in a beach or someplace else...

And to each their own choice. If everyone loved doing what everyone else did, it would suck. The beach would always be crowded or the theatres always packed or each new book always selling out before you get it, etc.

Im not as game centric. Id rather program mostly, I have a two monitor setup so I can watch a movie (avi/mpg or DVD) while I program, I can read. Role Playing involved getting friends together and is a little more of a hassle. games are just when Ive had too much caffeine (or not enough) to program, Im passing some time, etc.

Sometimes a game will come out that makes me close Visual Studio

resident evil was made originaly made for PS1... Max Payne was originaly made for PC, Final fantaxy.. well cant tell... the first FF was for SNES if am not wrong... Those type of games exits in PC, but I rather have Gothic II or Fallout then FF or resident evil. I had a PSX and now i have PS2, and i can tell u this.. I use PS2 to play movies only. Its games... well... cant find a decent simulator on PS2... its all arcade...

FF was first made for the Nintendo, then jumped to the Snes in america. They skipped from pt 1 to pt 4. In japan the first 3 were on the Famicom (nintendo basically), then 4-6 were on superfamicom. Four is our part two, Five wasnt released in america until recently and was better than our 2+3 combined and our 3 was their 6. After that things synched up.

I too am also waiting on a good RPG to come out on the PS2 or something. I got more use out of my Game Boy Advance when Final Fantasy Tactics Advance came out - its a tactical combat game, fun timekiller.

For the PSX games, I normally just play mine on my PC. Easier that way