$3,000 Paper Weight

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Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

Exactly what is not letting you format?
If you are unable to format, that may be indicative of other problems.
Reinstalling over the top will not necessarily resolve existing
issues.

Have you contacted the computer manufacturer for support?

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"Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message news:DF67F6F6-17A6-4995-8AD3-A84DBD8C34B9@microsoft.com...
> Doing a clean install but its not letting me reformat. It just
> re-installed
> vista over the old instance. Sorry bout being rude, but i got a few
> anger
> issues im working to fix, and I dont like wasting money....let alone
> little
> over 3k.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Are you absolutely certain 64 bit Windows Vista is installed?
>> Both 32 and 64 bit will install on 64 bit hardware and 32 bit
>> Windows
>> is what many get from OEMs with 64 bit hardware.
>> Right click Computer and click Properties if unsure.
>>
>> Make sure the drivers are appropriate for your Windows, (64 bit
>> drivers for 64 bit Windows)
>> Only get drivers from the hardware manufacturers and avoid Beta
>> drivers.
>> Use only Windows Vista certified drivers.
>>
>> If there is any over clocking, undo it until you have resolved all
>> issues.
>>
>> Power off and reseat all cables and connections.
>>
>> Try a Clean Install to see if problems go away.
>> Since the computer is new, perhaps there is little if nothing to
>> lose.
>>
>> If the computer cam from an OEM, contact them for support, you may
>> have hardware issues.
>>
>> "in order to talk to tech support for MS i have to pay them more
>> money"
>> If Windows Vista is OEM, that is normal.
>> Support for OEM, if available, comes from the seller and not
>> Microsoft.
>> If you built the computer yourself with OEM Windows, you provide
>> all
>> the support.
>> One of the many reasons you pay less for OEM.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

> I'm guessing my only cure is to microwave my Vista CD, and my hardrive to
> the range and shoot it.

I'm guessing you've already set your mind on doing just that. Please post a
video. :-D
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

perhaps the OP doesn't realize that formatting requires clicking Advanced?

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"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:381E43C3-F59B-4252-8A71-7BD8F353120C@microsoft.com...
> Stryker:
> I would still try unplugging one of the two 8800's during this debugging
> stage.
> Regarding the issue that Vista does not allow you to reformat during the
> installation stage, have you tried asking it to delete the partition and
> then
> reformat it?
> Carlos
>
> "Stryker Infantry" wrote:
>
>> Yeah im running a 8800 SLI certified Thermal Lake 850w
>>
>> "Carlos" wrote:
>>
>> > Stryker:
>> > Does your power supply have enough muscle for your system?
>> > I mean, having two 8800GTX's places a heavy drain on the PS.
>> > I have not done the math but I guess that 800 watt would be the bare
>> > minimum
>> > for your rig.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "Stryker Infantry" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I went through bios and the only 2 options was S1, and S3
>> > > It was set for S1, and i changed it to S3.
>> > > No dice still will not power off, OR restart. Sure it goes through
>> > > the
>> > > motions...LCD goes black, HD light goes then stops....fans continue
>> > > to run,
>> > > LCD Proc temp gauge on tower still runs, Thermal Lake AC unit still
>> > > spins,
>> > > and blue lights are still on inside the tower. Any guesses?
>> > >
>> > > "Carlos" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Stryker:
>> > > > For the "not turning my computer off" issue, check the power
>> > > > settings in BIOS.
>> > > > Carlos
>> > > >
>> > > > "Stryker Infantry" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > So I had this Really nice gaming computer built. Its running
>> > > > > this really
>> > > > > great OS called Vista 64. (WTFE)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Its causing a yellow line to run down my screen on the right
>> > > > > side.
>> > > > > Its not turning my computer off when i tell it to.
>> > > > > Its not even being recognized as a 64bit OS when it comes to
>> > > > > driver installs
>> > > > > to fix the SLI issue im having with my 8800GTX's.
>> > > > > Windows updates are not even installing because of "bad Installs"
>> > > > > or so
>> > > > > Vista tells me.
>> > > > > Pure Edge Don't work. Thank god I'm a non-commissioned officer
>> > > > > and have to
>> > > > > use pure edge to counsel my fire team monthly.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But on the good news Its recognizing my 4 gigs of ram.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > How can I fix these issues besides loading my .45 and putting it
>> > > > > out of its
>> > > > > misery and microwaving the Vista CD?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Nvida tells me im trying to install a 64bit program on a 32bit
>> > > > > OS, then
>> > > > > tells me im trying to install a 32bit program on a 64bit
>> > > > > OS.......along with
>> > > > > the number of issues I'm having how can i fix this seriously?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

Stryker Infantry wrote:
> So I had this Really nice gaming computer built. Its running this really
> great OS called Vista 64. (WTFE)

Since you've only just bought it, why don't you just take it back to
where it came from and make them fix it, or replace it? It sounds like
it was badly built in the first place.

Graham.
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

On Oct 5, 4:18 am, Eric <E...@rr.com> wrote:
> Stryker,
> From a fellow vet who just retired after 28 years combined service,
> "Welcome Home"! Glad you're safe.
>
> For those not in the know, in an effort to go "paperless", DoD (and
> other US Government agencies as well) purchased a program called
> PureEdge. Several States and Educational agencies have migrated to
> PureEdge as well. It is simular to Adobes PDF files, in that many of
> the documents/forms are electronic, you fill in the blanks, save it as
> a file, and can forward it in electronic form.
>
> Stryker, I've been out of the "IT" loop for a few months, so I would
> recommend that you check with your IT folks to see how you can go
> about contacting the folks at PureEdge to see if their software's
> Vista64 compatable, and/or if they have work arounds, etc. BUT,
> I'd hold off till you get the NIVIDA, BSOD, and Windows updates
> issues squared away first! Like others have suggested, if you
> purchased the system "out of the box" (pre-built), then your first
> call should be to the place you purchased it from.
>
> Good Luck :)
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:02:10 -0400, "Dennis Pack"
>
> <dennisp...@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote:
> >Stryker:
> > Charlies' answer addresses Vista x64 problems. Currently the Nvidia
> >drivers for SLI cards is very similar to SOS, that's why many are switching
> >to ATI video cards. Currently over-clocking can be very unstable. With the
> >BSOD and issues with 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems sounds like this
> >was an OEM build with a corrupt image installed. If you purchased this
> >system complete contact the builder or supplier for a resolution. If this is
> >a home built system, formatting the hard drive then installing Vista x64
> >fresh should cure the problems. I'm not familiar with "Pure Edge" software
> >but it may install properly if the .EXE file is run as an administrator or
> >if it's installed in compatibility mode. Glad to hear that you're home safe.
> >Have a great day.

Well, pure edge was news to me. I loaded it and it seems to work on
X64. Here is a file:
http://apply.grants.gov/opportunities/packages/oppBAA-04-03-SNK-cfda12.800.xfd
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

Well, I have done 2 clean installs after reformatting to HD.
Same issues with the power not turning off.
It helped getting the windows patches to stick though.
Pure Edge now works.

But the power thing is annoying me. In safe mode it powers down and
restarts just fine.... out of safe mode, is another story. Any clues as to
what i should look for in BIOS?

"Graham" wrote:

> Stryker Infantry wrote:
> > So I had this Really nice gaming computer built. Its running this really
> > great OS called Vista 64. (WTFE)
>
> Since you've only just bought it, why don't you just take it back to
> where it came from and make them fix it, or replace it? It sounds like
> it was badly built in the first place.
>
> Graham.
>
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

You could try and disable ACPI - then re-install again.

Did you flash your BIOS, or check for an update? Your BIOS version is
printed on-screen at boot-time. I would have a look at this first.


Tony. . .


"Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:55CBB519-25C0-4B4D-8B83-2C9246CF833E@microsoft.com...
> Well, I have done 2 clean installs after reformatting to HD.
> Same issues with the power not turning off.
> It helped getting the windows patches to stick though.
> Pure Edge now works.
>
> But the power thing is annoying me. In safe mode it powers down and
> restarts just fine.... out of safe mode, is another story. Any clues as
> to
> what i should look for in BIOS?
>
> "Graham" wrote:
>
>> Stryker Infantry wrote:
>> > So I had this Really nice gaming computer built. Its running this
>> > really
>> > great OS called Vista 64. (WTFE)
>>
>> Since you've only just bought it, why don't you just take it back to
>> where it came from and make them fix it, or replace it? It sounds like
>> it was badly built in the first place.
>>
>> Graham.
>>
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

Attempted to Flash my BIOS, only on a normal tower the PS is located ontop.
Mine is located on the bottom rear of the tower where BIOS jumpers are
located.
( ANTEC 900)

how can i disable the ACPI?

"Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:

> You could try and disable ACPI - then re-install again.
>
> Did you flash your BIOS, or check for an update? Your BIOS version is
> printed on-screen at boot-time. I would have a look at this first.
>
>
> Tony. . .
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

If you go into BIOS Setup you would usually have an option to turn it off.
I can't think of a modern desktop machine that doesn't.

If you can't find it check with your Motherboard's Site - they should have a
printable Manual too that could be helpfull.

The location of the PSU shouldn't have any impact, nor any jumpers - I have
an Antec case too, just look in the BIOS Setup, disable if possible and
re-install from scratch, the OS will be configured accordingly.

While you are in there, among the power settings, you might find an APM
setting - before reinstalling your OS you could experiment with having that
enabled instead of ACPI or both either off or on to find out if they
interfere with each other somehow?

Tony. . .


"Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:22413DDC-AC15-4EF5-8A13-3AB94E64034C@microsoft.com...
> Attempted to Flash my BIOS, only on a normal tower the PS is located
> ontop.
> Mine is located on the bottom rear of the tower where BIOS jumpers are
> located.
> ( ANTEC 900)
>
> how can i disable the ACPI?
>
> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:
>
>> You could try and disable ACPI - then re-install again.
>>
>> Did you flash your BIOS, or check for an update? Your BIOS version is
>> printed on-screen at boot-time. I would have a look at this first.
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

ACPI needs to be enabled on 64bit windows, I'm pretty sure.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Tony Sperling mail.dk>" <tony.sperling@db<REMOVE> wrote in message
news:eGVw1W5CIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you go into BIOS Setup you would usually have an option to turn it
> off. I can't think of a modern desktop machine that doesn't.
>
> If you can't find it check with your Motherboard's Site - they should have
> a printable Manual too that could be helpfull.
>
> The location of the PSU shouldn't have any impact, nor any jumpers - I
> have an Antec case too, just look in the BIOS Setup, disable if possible
> and re-install from scratch, the OS will be configured accordingly.
>
> While you are in there, among the power settings, you might find an APM
> setting - before reinstalling your OS you could experiment with having
> that enabled instead of ACPI or both either off or on to find out if they
> interfere with each other somehow?
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:22413DDC-AC15-4EF5-8A13-3AB94E64034C@microsoft.com...
>> Attempted to Flash my BIOS, only on a normal tower the PS is located
>> ontop.
>> Mine is located on the bottom rear of the tower where BIOS jumpers are
>> located.
>> ( ANTEC 900)
>>
>> how can i disable the ACPI?
>>
>> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:
>>
>>> You could try and disable ACPI - then re-install again.
>>>
>>> Did you flash your BIOS, or check for an update? Your BIOS version is
>>> printed on-screen at boot-time. I would have a look at this first.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony. . .
>>
>
>
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

Uh-oh! I didn't know that. It's a boot-option of every Linux I know of to
install with ACPI support disabled for reasons of ACPI, as applied, not (or
rarely) being compatible with the Published Standard - OpenSuSe 10.2 even
has a very interesting ACPI Test facility on the Boot-Menu to their install
disk right down there next to the Memory Test. I actually suggest everyone
with installation problems to download and boot this and run that test. Not
that it will solve anything, but it might assure the individual that it is
not he/her who cannot operate a PC.

And. . .for all the bashers out there, if any kind of 'Bashing' at all -
this is BIOS bashing, NOT MS bashing!

If you ever find yourself twiddling your thumbs, could you dig out a link to
some piece of 'writty', Charlie please? I'd like to read more about that.


Tony. . .


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:6F9C3690-18DB-48D0-B915-15B9D2729363@microsoft.com...
> ACPI needs to be enabled on 64bit windows, I'm pretty sure.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" <tony.sperling@db<REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:eGVw1W5CIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> If you go into BIOS Setup you would usually have an option to turn it
>> off. I can't think of a modern desktop machine that doesn't.
>>
>> If you can't find it check with your Motherboard's Site - they should
>> have a printable Manual too that could be helpfull.
>>
>> The location of the PSU shouldn't have any impact, nor any jumpers - I
>> have an Antec case too, just look in the BIOS Setup, disable if possible
>> and re-install from scratch, the OS will be configured accordingly.
>>
>> While you are in there, among the power settings, you might find an APM
>> setting - before reinstalling your OS you could experiment with having
>> that enabled instead of ACPI or both either off or on to find out if they
>> interfere with each other somehow?
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>> "Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:22413DDC-AC15-4EF5-8A13-3AB94E64034C@microsoft.com...
>>> Attempted to Flash my BIOS, only on a normal tower the PS is located
>>> ontop.
>>> Mine is located on the bottom rear of the tower where BIOS jumpers are
>>> located.
>>> ( ANTEC 900)
>>>
>>> how can i disable the ACPI?
>>>
>>> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could try and disable ACPI - then re-install again.
>>>>
>>>> Did you flash your BIOS, or check for an update? Your BIOS version is
>>>> printed on-screen at boot-time. I would have a look at this first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony. . .
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

I'll try to look around for it, but I remember seeing it as a requirement
for XP x64, and I'm assuming it's still there for Vista. You can always try
turning it off on a box, and trying to install and see if it complains.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Tony Sperling mail.dk>" <tony.sperling@db<REMOVE> wrote in message
news:OOO%230B%23CIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Uh-oh! I didn't know that. It's a boot-option of every Linux I know of to
> install with ACPI support disabled for reasons of ACPI, as applied, not
> (or rarely) being compatible with the Published Standard - OpenSuSe 10.2
> even has a very interesting ACPI Test facility on the Boot-Menu to their
> install disk right down there next to the Memory Test. I actually suggest
> everyone with installation problems to download and boot this and run that
> test. Not that it will solve anything, but it might assure the individual
> that it is not he/her who cannot operate a PC.
>
> And. . .for all the bashers out there, if any kind of 'Bashing' at all -
> this is BIOS bashing, NOT MS bashing!
>
> If you ever find yourself twiddling your thumbs, could you dig out a link
> to some piece of 'writty', Charlie please? I'd like to read more about
> that.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:6F9C3690-18DB-48D0-B915-15B9D2729363@microsoft.com...
>> ACPI needs to be enabled on 64bit windows, I'm pretty sure.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" <tony.sperling@db<REMOVE> wrote in message
>> news:eGVw1W5CIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> If you go into BIOS Setup you would usually have an option to turn it
>>> off. I can't think of a modern desktop machine that doesn't.
>>>
>>> If you can't find it check with your Motherboard's Site - they should
>>> have a printable Manual too that could be helpfull.
>>>
>>> The location of the PSU shouldn't have any impact, nor any jumpers - I
>>> have an Antec case too, just look in the BIOS Setup, disable if possible
>>> and re-install from scratch, the OS will be configured accordingly.
>>>
>>> While you are in there, among the power settings, you might find an APM
>>> setting - before reinstalling your OS you could experiment with having
>>> that enabled instead of ACPI or both either off or on to find out if
>>> they interfere with each other somehow?
>>>
>>> Tony. . .
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:22413DDC-AC15-4EF5-8A13-3AB94E64034C@microsoft.com...
>>>> Attempted to Flash my BIOS, only on a normal tower the PS is located
>>>> ontop.
>>>> Mine is located on the bottom rear of the tower where BIOS jumpers are
>>>> located.
>>>> ( ANTEC 900)
>>>>
>>>> how can i disable the ACPI?
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You could try and disable ACPI - then re-install again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you flash your BIOS, or check for an update? Your BIOS version is
>>>>> printed on-screen at boot-time. I would have a look at this first.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: $3,000 Paper Weight

"Stryker Infantry" <StrykerInfantry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:49788CB1-9036-4A3F-8EB0-474C4B82BCDF@microsoft.com...
>I went through bios and the only 2 options was S1, and S3
> It was set for S1, and i changed it to S3.
> No dice still will not power off, OR restart. Sure it goes through the
> motions...LCD goes black, HD light goes then stops....fans continue to
> run,
> LCD Proc temp gauge on tower still runs, Thermal Lake AC unit still spins,
> and blue lights are still on inside the tower. Any guesses?
>
> "Carlos" wrote:
>
>> Stryker:
>> For the "not turning my computer off" issue, check the power settings in
>> BIOS.
>> Carlos
>>
>> "Stryker Infantry" wrote:
>>
>> > So I had this Really nice gaming computer built. Its running this
>> > really
>> > great OS called Vista 64. (WTFE)
>> >
>> > Its causing a yellow line to run down my screen on the right side.
>> > Its not turning my computer off when i tell it to.
>> > Its not even being recognized as a 64bit OS when it comes to driver
>> > installs
>> > to fix the SLI issue im having with my 8800GTX's.
>> > Windows updates are not even installing because of "bad Installs" or so
>> > Vista tells me.
>> > Pure Edge Don't work. Thank god I'm a non-commissioned officer and have
>> > to
>> > use pure edge to counsel my fire team monthly.
>> >
>> > But on the good news Its recognizing my 4 gigs of ram.
>> >
>> > How can I fix these issues besides loading my .45 and putting it out of
>> > its
>> > misery and microwaving the Vista CD?
>> >
>> > Nvida tells me im trying to install a 64bit program on a 32bit OS, then
>> > tells me im trying to install a 32bit program on a 64bit OS.......along
>> > with
>> > the number of issues I'm having how can i fix this seriously?
>> >
>> >
>> >
For all you've said about the issue, you haven't really given that much
information. SO;
My guess is your installation of Vista x64 is corrupt. Since it's a new
system you likely don't have that much installed yet. If it were my own
system, I'd boot the Vista x64 disk, delete current partitions, create new
partition, format drive, install OS fresh. If the system and OS don't work
right on First Boot (well, intall the motherboard drivers), then there is an
issue with hardware that must be sorted.
After it installs and boots, get the motherboard drivers installed/updated
first. Then do the vista updates. The last major driver I'd install would
be the nVidia graphics driver, from here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_163.69.html

I understand your frustration. I also think your Vista install is botched
somehow.

HTH,
McG.

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