<PING> Bill in Colo.

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Man, you got married when I was 1 or less years old!

"Curt Christianson" wrote:

> And many more Rick. Took the plunge in 1976, but realistically, all little
> too young.
>
> --
> HTH,
> Curt
>
> Windows Support Center
> www.aumha.org
> Practically Nerded,...
> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>
> "Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
> news:eibk2KTCIHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |
> |
> | "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | news:%23bsBR9QCIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | > I won't mention my b-date either, but I graduated from HS in 1973!
> |
> | I got married in July of 1973

> | ..well, that was my first marriage anyway... <g>
> | The second one was even better, and still going strong <smile>
> |
> | Rick
> |
> | >
> | > --
> | > HTH,
> | > Curt
> |
> |
> |
>
>
>

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

I am glad the second marriage worked. <smile>

"Rick Chauvin" wrote:

>
>
> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23bsBR9QCIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> > I won't mention my b-date either, but I graduated from HS in 1973!
>
> I got married in July of 1973

> ...well, that was my first marriage anyway... <g>
> The second one was even better, and still going strong <smile>
>
> Rick
>
> >
> > --
> > HTH,
> > Curt
>
>
>
>

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Speaking of security, I find it amusing that everything nowadays seems to be
done in the name of security. You don't think a George Orwell 1984 is around
the corner do you?

"Bill Watt" wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:50:15 -0500, "Curt Christianson"
> <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >73,(old ham lingo)
>
> It's still in use Curt....
>
> 73's
>
> KB3J_ ( formerly WB3BM_ )
>
> Last character of call signs omitted for security.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
>
>

Bill in Co. · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Bill Watt wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:24:35 -0500, "Curt Christianson"
> <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I won't mention my b-date either, but I graduated from HS in 1973!
>
> I graduated from HS in 1941. I was born on 9/11, can't remember the
> year.

>
> 73's
>
> Bill Watt
> KB3J_ WB3BM_

Well then you've really witnessed the "changes" even more than I have!

Bill Watt · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Not really....

But if you know an amateur radio call sign you can get all kinds of
personal information thru the ARRL and FCC. Name, age, address to
name some. It's much worse than providing a valid e-mail address in
a public forum.

Regards,

Bill Watt

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:43:13 -0700, Dan
<Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Speaking of security, I find it amusing that everything nowadays seems to be
>done in the name of security. You don't think a George Orwell 1984 is around
>the corner do you?
>
>"Bill Watt" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:50:15 -0500, "Curt Christianson"
>> <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >73,(old ham lingo)
>>
>> It's still in use Curt....
>>
>> 73's
>>
>> KB3J_ ( formerly WB3BM_ )
>>
>> Last character of call signs omitted for security.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt
>>
>>

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Thanks for the clarification, Bill.

"Bill Watt" wrote:

>
> Not really....

> But if you know an amateur radio call sign you can get all kinds of
> personal information thru the ARRL and FCC. Name, age, address to
> name some. It's much worse than providing a valid e-mail address in
> a public forum.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
>
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:43:13 -0700, Dan
> <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Speaking of security, I find it amusing that everything nowadays seems to be
> >done in the name of security. You don't think a George Orwell 1984 is around
> >the corner do you?
> >
> >"Bill Watt" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:50:15 -0500, "Curt Christianson"
> >> <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >73,(old ham lingo)
> >>
> >> It's still in use Curt....
> >>
> >> 73's
> >>
> >> KB3J_ ( formerly WB3BM_ )
> >>
> >> Last character of call signs omitted for security.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Bill Watt
> >>
> >>
>
>

bobster · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey" on this
board.

Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the
countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based on
solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as an
art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational background
to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.

=======================================================================
"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OD8LnRICIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Oh well couple of days late responding.

Just curious Bill,I was about to undertake a EE, and got married instead.
Obviously long-range plans aren't my forte. Just kidding, I have the utmost
respect and admiration for women.

What was your main area of discipline? I used to be quite a ham operator,
and RF still fascinates the heck out of me

You can read *all* the books you want, author them even, but antenna theory
has far too many variables to ever relegate it to a science, it will always
be any art, unless you start talking Very High Powered Microwaves, and even
then you better not has the slightest burr on the inside of the
waveguide<OMIGOSH>.

Where is you level of expertise in??

73,(old ham lingo)

--
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
Practically Nerded,...
http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

Rick Chauvin · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:umWn2iTCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

> Heh....I got married in May of 1973. It lasted 6 years. Since then

I guess 1973 was a good year <bg>

> I've just had "girlfriends" though the current one has lasted 16 years
> so far, minus a couple of years break a few years back.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/

PCR · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uF1OV4UCIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| I thought I was the oldie on this group, being born in the 40's.
| So you have (presumably) witnessed even more changes in society than I
have!
| (and I feel many of them ... are not so good, if you know what I
mean).
|
| "We have nothing to fear except fear itself...."
| I'm not so sure about that.

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this newsgroup and
in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

The unknown has split the thread. <giggle>

"PCR" wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:uF1OV4UCIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | I thought I was the oldie on this group, being born in the 40's.
> | So you have (presumably) witnessed even more changes in society than I
> have!
> | (and I feel many of them ... are not so good, if you know what I
> mean).
> |
> | "We have nothing to fear except fear itself...."
> | I'm not so sure about that.

Bill in Co. · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

bobster wrote:
> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey" on
this
> board.
>
> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
>
> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the
> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!
>
> And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based on
> solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as an
> art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational
background
> to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.

Yup. Ain't it the truth.

> =====================================================
> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OD8LnRICIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Oh well couple of days late responding.
>
> Just curious Bill,I was about to undertake a EE, and got married instead.
> Obviously long-range plans aren't my forte. Just kidding, I have the
utmost
> respect and admiration for women.
>
> What was your main area of discipline? I used to be quite a ham operator,
> and RF still fascinates the heck out of me
>
> You can read *all* the books you want, author them even, but antenna
theory
> has far too many variables to ever relegate it to a science, it will
always
> be any art, unless you start talking Very High Powered Microwaves, and
even
> then you better not has the slightest burr on the inside of the
> waveguide<OMIGOSH>.
>
> Where is you level of expertise in??
>
> 73,(old ham lingo)
>
>
>
> --
> Curt
>
> Windows Support Center
> www.aumha.org
> Practically Nerded,...
> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Hi Bill,

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> bobster wrote:
> > Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey" on
> this
> > board.
> >
> > Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
> >
> > Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the
> > countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

Life is Great!!

Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act" I don't feel nor
act that old! No one believes my age neither.
> >
> > And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based on
> > solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as
an
> > art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational
> background
> > to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.
>
> Yup. Ain't it the truth.
>
Never was a ham operator. I used to get on the CB a lot of evenings after
work. I enjoyed doing so. I have not done that for a long time. The brackets
let loose and my antenna dropped through the roof.. Had to have the hole in
the roof repaired. I still have the CB and wire. What a change! Now I get on
the computer. <G>

Angel
>
>
> > =====================================================
> > "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OD8LnRICIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Oh well couple of days late responding.
> >
> > Just curious Bill,I was about to undertake a EE, and got married
instead.
> > Obviously long-range plans aren't my forte. Just kidding, I have the
> utmost
> > respect and admiration for women.
> >
> > What was your main area of discipline? I used to be quite a ham
operator,
> > and RF still fascinates the heck out of me
> >
> > You can read *all* the books you want, author them even, but antenna
> theory
> > has far too many variables to ever relegate it to a science, it will
> always
> > be any art, unless you start talking Very High Powered Microwaves, and
> even
> > then you better not has the slightest burr on the inside of the
> > waveguide<OMIGOSH>.
> >
> > Where is you level of expertise in??
> >
> > 73,(old ham lingo)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Curt
> >
> > Windows Support Center
> > www.aumha.org
> > Practically Nerded,...
> > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>
>

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Dan,
You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.
Angel

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...
> I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this newsgroup
and
> in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Hi, this is a P.S.,
I just read the bobster's entry. We were born the same year!
Angel

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:e%23uqBuhCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bill,
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > bobster wrote:
> > > Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey"
on
> > this
> > > board.
> > >
> > > Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
> > >
> > > Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing
the
> > > countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!
>
> Life is Great!!
>
> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act" I don't feel nor
> act that old! No one believes my age neither.
> > >
> > > And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based
on
> > > solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as
> an
> > > art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational
> > background
> > > to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.
> >
> > Yup. Ain't it the truth.
> >
> Never was a ham operator. I used to get on the CB a lot of evenings after
> work. I enjoyed doing so. I have not done that for a long time. The
brackets
> let loose and my antenna dropped through the roof.. Had to have the hole
in
> the roof repaired. I still have the CB and wire. What a change! Now I get
on
> the computer. <G>
>
> Angel
> >
> >
> > > =====================================================
> > > "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OD8LnRICIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > Oh well couple of days late responding.
> > >
> > > Just curious Bill,I was about to undertake a EE, and got married
> instead.
> > > Obviously long-range plans aren't my forte. Just kidding, I have the
> > utmost
> > > respect and admiration for women.
> > >
> > > What was your main area of discipline? I used to be quite a ham
> operator,
> > > and RF still fascinates the heck out of me
> > >
> > > You can read *all* the books you want, author them even, but antenna
> > theory
> > > has far too many variables to ever relegate it to a science, it will
> > always
> > > be any art, unless you start talking Very High Powered Microwaves,
and
> > even
> > > then you better not has the slightest burr on the inside of the
> > > waveguide<OMIGOSH>.
> > >
> > > Where is you level of expertise in??
> > >
> > > 73,(old ham lingo)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt
> > >
> > > Windows Support Center
> > > www.aumha.org
> > > Practically Nerded,...
> > > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >
> >
>
>

Bill Watt · Oct 8, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:40:18 -0700, "bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net>
wrote:

>Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
>
>Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the
>countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

>And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based on
>solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as an
>art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational background
>to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.

Right on.

In 1978, in addition to the various ham antennas on a 50 ft rotating
tower, I built a home brew Weather Satellite tracking ground station
and tracked and downloaded live pictures of the earth from 9
orbiting satellites including 3 Russian. For the so called
stationary satellites I made a dish from a TV one. The feed horn
extended on a PVC pipe and was a 2 lb coffee can. The antenna inside
the can was a wire 1 1/2 inches long. It worked well at the 5 watt
transmitted frequency of 1.6 Ghz.

The highlight of the hobby was discovering a secret Russian
satellite and getting written up in Aviation Week and Space
Technology magazine for it.

I am not an antenna expert but I had fun with them.

As long as the subject has been discussed here I thought this may be
interesting.

Regards,

Bill Watt
KB3J_

Dan · Oct 9, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest grandchild's
name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

"Angel" wrote:

> Dan,
> You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.
> Angel
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...
> > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this newsgroup
> and
> > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!
>
>
>

Bill in Co. · Oct 9, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Angel wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> bobster wrote:
>>> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey" on
this
>>> board.
>>>
>>> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
>>>
>>> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the
>>> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!
>
> Life is Great!!
>
> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act"

Well, yes and no. I think there's a bit more to it than that, if you look
a the world critically and carefully, and really care about the societal
(not technological) changes affecting so many of us today.

From what I've seen of many of these changes in society over the past 5+
decades, I'm just not too impressed - with the major exception of race
relations, of course.

But as for ... personal responsibility, and personal accountability,
nowadays? And perseverance (not just sound bites)? And the plethora of
single parent homes today, and the increasing breakup of the family unit?
Ummm, count me out of "how great it is these days" (sociologically
speaking).

bobster · Oct 9, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Hi, Angel. 1930 was a good year! My wife of 57 years was also born in '30.

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:eCK9Y2hCIHA.5600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Hi, this is a P.S.,
I just read the bobster's entry. We were born the same year!
Angel

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:e%23uqBuhCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bill,
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > bobster wrote:
> > > Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey"
on
> > this
> > > board.
> > >
> > > Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
> > >
> > > Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing
the
> > > countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!
>
> Life is Great!!
>
> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act" I don't feel nor
> act that old! No one believes my age neither.
> > >
> > > And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based
on
> > > solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as
> an
> > > art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational
> > background
> > > to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.
> >
> > Yup. Ain't it the truth.
> >
> Never was a ham operator. I used to get on the CB a lot of evenings after
> work. I enjoyed doing so. I have not done that for a long time. The
brackets
> let loose and my antenna dropped through the roof.. Had to have the hole
in
> the roof repaired. I still have the CB and wire. What a change! Now I get
on
> the computer. <G>
>
> Angel
> >
> >
> > > =====================================================
> > > "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OD8LnRICIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > Oh well couple of days late responding.
> > >
> > > Just curious Bill,I was about to undertake a EE, and got married
> instead.
> > > Obviously long-range plans aren't my forte. Just kidding, I have the
> > utmost
> > > respect and admiration for women.
> > >
> > > What was your main area of discipline? I used to be quite a ham
> operator,
> > > and RF still fascinates the heck out of me
> > >
> > > You can read *all* the books you want, author them even, but antenna
> > theory
> > > has far too many variables to ever relegate it to a science, it will
> > always
> > > be any art, unless you start talking Very High Powered Microwaves,
and
> > even
> > > then you better not has the slightest burr on the inside of the
> > > waveguide<OMIGOSH>.
> > >
> > > Where is you level of expertise in??
> > >
> > > 73,(old ham lingo)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt
> > >
> > > Windows Support Center
> > > www.aumha.org
> > > Practically Nerded,...
> > > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >
> >
>
>

bobster · Oct 9, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Good for you, Bill Watt. Sounds like your satellite tracking antenna worked
just fine.

I didn't mean to put down hams. There are many good engineers working in
the aerospace and communications industries who are hams. Many good antenna
designs are arrived at by cut-and-try or by using well established handbook
formulas. The going gets tough when the antenna requirements specify highly
controlled beams with very low sidelobes, steerable phased arrays,
self-adapting arrays, etc. Agencies like NASA, NSC, have very special
antenna needs that can often only be met by application of sophisticated
electromagnetic design principles. Fortunately, much of this can now be
done by using readily available digital design software. The devil is in
the details of knowing how to apply the software.

Keep on hammin'

============================================================================
=========
"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:jqolg3hho62du3s332esvpmr342nl49odm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:40:18 -0700, "bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net>
wrote:

>Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:
>
>Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the
>countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

>And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science based on
>solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only as an
>art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational background
>to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.

Right on.

In 1978, in addition to the various ham antennas on a 50 ft rotating
tower, I built a home brew Weather Satellite tracking ground station
and tracked and downloaded live pictures of the earth from 9
orbiting satellites including 3 Russian. For the so called
stationary satellites I made a dish from a TV one. The feed horn
extended on a PVC pipe and was a 2 lb coffee can. The antenna inside
the can was a wire 1 1/2 inches long. It worked well at the 5 watt
transmitted frequency of 1.6 Ghz.

The highlight of the hobby was discovering a secret Russian
satellite and getting written up in Aviation Week and Space
Technology magazine for it.

I am not an antenna expert but I had fun with them.

As long as the subject has been discussed here I thought this may be
interesting.

Regards,

Bill Watt
KB3J_

<PING> Bill in Colo.

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