Windows Vista Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

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Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:13:32 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:
>
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:05:56 -0500, "Michael Jennings"
>>> <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The table will work if it's in a fixed font; the statistics are from w3counter:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
>>>>
>>>> 10 May 07 (then) 10 Oct 07 (now)
>>>>
>>>> 1 Windows XP 84.32% Windows XP 82.98% -1.34%
>>>> 2 Windows 2000 4.16% Windows Vista 4.11% +1.98%
>>>> 3 Mac OS X 3.85% Windows 2000 3.84% - .32%
>>>> 4 Windows Vista 2.13% Mac OS X 3.79% - .06%
>>>>
>>>> 5 Windows 98 1.53% Linux 1.38% + .13%
>>>> 6 Linux 1.25% Windows 98 1.25% - .28%
>>>>
>>>> 7 Windows 2003 0.67% Windows 2003 0.70% + .03%
>>>> 8 Windows ME 0.53% Windows ME 0.44% - .09%
>>>> 9 Windows NT 0.07% Windows NT 0.06% - .01%
>>>> 10 Mac PowerPC 0.06% Mac PowerPC 0.03% - .03%
>>>
>>> What I find interesting is in five months time Vista has only gone
>>> from a little over 2% to just over 4% market share. Roughly translated
>>> that means of those that were running XP or something else for the
>>> most part five months later STILL are. It also blows a huge hole in
>>> the old Stevie boy Ballmer's 60 million copies sold claim as far as
>>> those copies being in actual customer's hands. I'll leave it to the
>>> fanboy club as a math exercise to calculate if the above is true and
>>> 60 million represents 4% how many more copies they would need to
>>> "sell" to surpass XP's percentage.
>>>
>>> Just to help the fanboy gang along since they are rather slow, if 4%
>>> represents 60 million which has been hotly claimed in other threads as
>>> actual Vista sales, then ten times that or 40% would mean 600 million
>>> copies, while 80% would mean 1,200,000,000 copies. Good luck with that
>>> Stevie.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thank Gawd you're not in any position of any importance to anyone.
>> Frank
>
> How would you know?
>

<Are you kidding? Everyone knows that you are an out of control Fruit Loop.>
 
Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

Microsoft is not telling the truth.

I am NOT saying that they are telling a lie..

however they are not DISCLOSING all the complete truth about what is REALLY
going on with Vista sales.

Can you imagine why? If news comes out about what a historical FLOP it is,
even LESS will buy it.

People follow trends... and if it becomes known that AVOIDING VISTA is the
biggest trend now..
sales will drop to zero.

Its all about stocks... if news that vista is failing goes out.. Microsoft
will lose millions.

Its not a joke here... we are talking about lots of money!




"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:13:32 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:
>
>>Adam Albright wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:05:56 -0500, "Michael Jennings"
>>> <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The table will work if it's in a fixed font; the statistics are from
>>>>w3counter:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
>>>>
>>>> 10 May 07 (then) 10 Oct 07 (now)
>>>>
>>>>1 Windows XP 84.32% Windows XP 82.98% -1.34%
>>>>2 Windows 2000 4.16% Windows Vista 4.11% +1.98%
>>>>3 Mac OS X 3.85% Windows 2000 3.84% - .32%
>>>>4 Windows Vista 2.13% Mac OS X 3.79% - .06%
>>>>
>>>>5 Windows 98 1.53% Linux 1.38% + .13%
>>>>6 Linux 1.25% Windows 98 1.25% - .28%
>>>>
>>>>7 Windows 2003 0.67% Windows 2003 0.70% + .03%
>>>>8 Windows ME 0.53% Windows ME 0.44% - .09%
>>>>9 Windows NT 0.07% Windows NT 0.06% - .01%
>>>>10 Mac PowerPC 0.06% Mac PowerPC 0.03% - .03%
>>>
>>>
>>> What I find interesting is in five months time Vista has only gone
>>> from a little over 2% to just over 4% market share. Roughly translated
>>> that means of those that were running XP or something else for the
>>> most part five months later STILL are. It also blows a huge hole in
>>> the old Stevie boy Ballmer's 60 million copies sold claim as far as
>>> those copies being in actual customer's hands. I'll leave it to the
>>> fanboy club as a math exercise to calculate if the above is true and
>>> 60 million represents 4% how many more copies they would need to
>>> "sell" to surpass XP's percentage.
>>>
>>> Just to help the fanboy gang along since they are rather slow, if 4%
>>> represents 60 million which has been hotly claimed in other threads as
>>> actual Vista sales, then ten times that or 40% would mean 600 million
>>> copies, while 80% would mean 1,200,000,000 copies. Good luck with that
>>> Stevie.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Thank Gawd you're not in any position of any importance to anyone.
>>Frank
>
> How would you know?
>
 
Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Taibear ios wrote:

> Microsoft is not telling the truth.

And you know this because you have factual data to refute what you think
MS said...?
>

> I am NOT saying that they are telling a lie..

Oh really?
>
> however they are not DISCLOSING all the complete truth about what is REALLY
> going on with Vista sales.

They aren't? You know this because you have access to statistical data
no one else can get...?
>
> Can you imagine why? If news comes out about what a historical FLOP it is,
> even LESS will buy it.

Again, do you have any statistical data to substantiate your claims that
Vista is a sales flop or are you just wishing it were true?
Provide the facts you have or else we'll all assume that you're just a
big mouth MS hating liar?
So...we're waiting.
Frank
 
Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:04:08 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>Taibear ios wrote:
>
>> Microsoft is not telling the truth.
>
>And you know this because you have factual data to refute what you think
>MS said...?

What do you know about telling the truth? You are nothing but a proven
pathological liar.
 
Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

On 10/18/2007 10:04 AM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> Taibear ios wrote:
>
>> Microsoft is not telling the truth.
>
> And you know this because you have factual data to refute what you think
> MS said...?
>
>> I am NOT saying that they are telling a lie..
>
> Oh really?
>> however they are not DISCLOSING all the complete truth about what is REALLY
>> going on with Vista sales.
>
> They aren't? You know this because you have access to statistical data
> no one else can get...?
>> Can you imagine why? If news comes out about what a historical FLOP it is,
>> even LESS will buy it.
>
> Again, do you have any statistical data to substantiate your claims that
> Vista is a sales flop or are you just wishing it were true?
> Provide the facts you have or else we'll all assume that you're just a
> big mouth MS hating liar?
> So...we're waiting.
> Frank

From Jan. - July 2007, XP sales accounted for 42.3% of retail OS sales.
From Jan. - July 2002, Win98 accounted for 23.1% of retail OS sales.
NPD Group

Given that many more computers are being sold now than in 2002, that is
a healthy drop.

Traffic to PC World site accounts Vista for just 10% during September.

In July, MS CFO Chris Liddell ratcheted up the percentage of OS sales
the company expects XP to account for in fiscal year 2008 from 15 to 22
percent.

Source: PC World Nov. 2007

While it can't be considered a "sales flop", the numbers are low. My
bet is if all computers sold had an option for XP or Vista, the numbers
would be significantly higher. People are being force fed something
they don't need when buying a new computer at a brick and mortar store
(an online also except for the few that still offer the option).

But either way, MS unfortunately wins. A sale is a sale.

On another note, in Sept. 2007, Firefox (35.4%) has surpassed IE6
(34.9%) and IE7 (20.8%). Vista (3.6%), XP (74.6%) for OS's.
Source: w3schools

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Terry R.

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Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep WindowsVista sales alive

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:04:08 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:
>
>
>>Taibear ios wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Microsoft is not telling the truth.
>>
>>And you know this because you have factual data to refute what you think
>>MS said...?
>
>
> What do you know about telling the truth? You are nothing but a proven
> pathological liar.
>

Drunk again?
Figures.
Frank
 
Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

If you think w3's stats are representative of real people you're quite
wrong.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The table will work if it's in a fixed font; the statistics are from
> w3counter:
>
> http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
>
> 10 May 07 (then) 10 Oct 07 (now)
>
> 1 Windows XP 84.32% Windows XP 82.98% -1.34%
> 2 Windows 2000 4.16% Windows Vista 4.11% +1.98%
> 3 Mac OS X 3.85% Windows 2000 3.84% - .32%
> 4 Windows Vista 2.13% Mac OS X 3.79% - .06%
>
> 5 Windows 98 1.53% Linux 1.38% + .13%
> 6 Linux 1.25% Windows 98 1.25% - .28%
>
> 7 Windows 2003 0.67% Windows 2003 0.70% + .03%
> 8 Windows ME 0.53% Windows ME 0.44% - .09%
> 9 Windows NT 0.07% Windows NT 0.06% - .01%
> 10 Mac PowerPC 0.06% Mac PowerPC 0.03% - .03%
>
> Quickie analysis, starting at the bottom and ending at the top:
>
> The Mac PowerPC people are halved; the NT diehards are barely giving up;
> maybe ME also won't go away; there is a slight increase in people using
> 2003 - more than use ME, NT and Mac PowerPC put together. 10, 9, 8, and 7
> rankings are unchanged - so much for operating systems scoring below one
> percent.
>
> Windows 98 has dropped to where Linux used to be; Linux has risen almost
> to where 98 used to be. So much for operating systems scoring between one
> and two percent.
>
> Mac OS X has slipped from 3rd to 4th place with a slight loss. It kind of
> looks like those hilarious Mac ads didn't work - Linux is distantly just
> behind Mac. Windows 2000 lost more substantially and went from 2nd down to
> 3rd. Vista has leaped from 4th to 2nd place, moving past not only Mac, but
> W2K as well, by almost doubling. Vista has a long way to go before it gets
> anywhere near to XP, akin to Linux overtaking Mac but worse; however, most
> of Vista's gain could be seen as coming out of 1st place Windows XP's
> trivial loss. This is a "what is being used" metric rather than a "who
> bought what" metric.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:uVct9YHEIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> So the question again is, do you have any verifiable facts or is it
>> nothing more than an opinion?
>>
>
>
 
Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

Re: Microsoft will try every trick in the book in order to keep Windows Vista sales alive

HitsLink would probably suit you better - Mac flat, Vista 7%, XP 79%
as of last month: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5
What I think the statistics are representative of is that the hilarious
Apple ads didn't work, that Vista has a very long way to go before
it overtakes XP, and that Linux gains are difficult to perceive.

"Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
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> If you think w3's stats are representative of real people you're quite wrong.
>
> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uaP%23EGQEIHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
>>
 
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