Administrator Consoled in Can not install software

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Re: Administrator Consoled in Can not install software

Thanks for the insight Hank.

What GPO settings are talking about in particular? As Vera suggested I have
the "Permissions compatible with Windows 2000 Users" in TSC already selected.
I also have the windows installer GPO setting disabled. What other GPO can I
touch. I will be changing the NTFS permissions today like Vera suggested.

Thanks.

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

> I'm a little confused... We control the installation of software by GPO.
> No one except someone in the Administrators group can install software
> on *ANY* computer (server, workstation, laptop, etc.)....period. In
> addition, we have a firewall (part of the Sophos End Point Security)
> that will not allow *any* program to run that has not been added to the
> firewall security.
>
> We still have W2K servers with TS installed. I've never seen this
> problem. I'm forwarding this to my work id and I'll see what I can find.
>
> To be honest, I can't guarantee I'll get to it today (Monday). This is
> typically my busiest day with several weekly reports due in the AM, I
> have to deal with all the problems the nurses have had over the weekend
> with their laptops and remote access as well as some major issues that
> just came up due to a vendor telling us that we need to spend a
> significant amount of $$ that is not in the budget. You haven't lived
> until you work for a non-profit and try to get IT money that isn't in
> the budget... :-(
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
> > Well, as I wrote, I don't remember the details of a W2K TS. During
> > installation, you are asked to choose the "Compatibility mode". Is
> > there anyting in tscc which mentions that? If so, you chould choose
> > "Permissions compatible with Windows 2000 Users".
> >
> > Anyone else maybe, who has access to a W2K TS?
> > _________________________________________________________
> > Vera Noest
> > MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> > TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> > ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >
> > =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?= <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com>
> > wrote on 02 aug 2008 in
> > microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >
> >> I am looking at the Terminal Services Configuration - Server
> >> Settings, which setting do I change. I dont see anything that
> >> says "relaxed security".
> >>
> >> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, seems like the Terminal Services was installed with relaxed
> >>> security. It's a long time ago that I worked with W2K TS, so
> >>> I'm unsure about the details, but I believe that you can check
> >>> (and change?) this in Terminal Services Configuration - Server
> >>> settings.
> >>>
> >>> You'll have to further secure the server with NTFS permissions
> >>> on the file system. At the minimum, modify the NTFS permissions
> >>> as follows:
> >>> %SystemDrive%, %SystemRoot%, %ProgramFiles% and
> >>> %SystemRoot%\system32 :
> >>> System - Full Control
> >>> Administrators - Full Control
> >>> Authenticated Users - Read & Execute
> >>>
> >>> _________________________________________________________
> >>> Vera Noest
> >>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>>
> >>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?= <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote on 01 aug 2008 in
> >>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>
> >>>> Vera,
> >>>>
> >>>> My appoligies for adding to an older thread. I just thought
> >>>> since you were dicussing a similiar problem I would post my
> >>>> issue. I will keep in mind nex time.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am the administrator and I am trying to restrict all
> >>>> non-admin users from installing software on the server. This
> >>>> is on a Windows 2000 server. How can I check if I installed
> >>>> TS with full security. Apprently something is not setup
> >>>> right, because few days ago I discovered that new software
> >>>> were installed, some games and Mozilla Firebox. I checked
> >>>> with my admins and they didnt. So it had to have been a
> >>>> regular user. No other user has right like us admins. I even
> >>>> did a test. I logged in as a normal user whose password I
> >>>> knew and I was able to download and install Firefox and other
> >>>> software.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only thing I have done is disable the windows installer
> >>>> but seems like that only works for software that use windows
> >>>> installer to install itself. The article I read from
> >>>> Microsoft that talks about this GPO mentions this condition.
> >>>> What else can I do? What else can I check?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Asif, you seem to append to an old thread which was about
> >>>>> the opposite of your problem. That's very confusing. Next
> >>>>> time, please start a new thread and clearly state your
> >>>>> problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What exactly is it that you want to achieve? I'm assuming
> >>>>> that your are the Administrator of a TS, and that you want
> >>>>> to prohibit users to install software, is that correct? Or
> >>>>> do you want to disable this for all users, including
> >>>>> Administrators?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you just want to take away this possibility for normal
> >>>>> users, the answer is that they don't have the proper rights
> >>>>> any way, assuming that you run on Windows 2003 and have
> >>>>> installed Terminal Services with "Full Security". They can
> >>>>> install applications in their home folder, but can't add or
> >>>>> replace system files, dll's etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Vera Noest
> >>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?=
> >>>>> <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 01 aug 2008:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Vera,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have disabled the windows installer but that only
> >>>>>> applies to software installations that use windows
> >>>>>> installer to install itself. There are other installs that
> >>>>>> dont use windows install. e.g. installing Mozilla Firefox.
> >>>>>> I have the GPO you mentioned for the windows installer
> >>>>>> enabled but i can still install firefox........what else
> >>>>>> can i try?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OK, thanks for the feedback, I'm glad that your problem
> >>>>>>> is solved! It's a bit puzzeling though that the problem
> >>>>>>> didn't disappear by configuring the GPO setting in the
> >>>>>>> domain-wide GPO applied to the TS, since those settings
> >>>>>>> override the local policy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Vera Noest
> >>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on
> >>>>>>> 14 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your help it was the local policy that was
> >>>>>>>> still turned on.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Did you run Resultant Set of Policies, as I suggested
> >>>>>>>>> in my previous post? That would tell you exactly which
> >>>>>>>>> policy has the setting configured.
> >>>>>>>>> You can edit the local policy with gpedit.msc
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you get this error message even when you are logged
> >>>>>>>>> in at the physical console of the server, then it
> >>>>>>>>> seems that Windows Installer is disabled completely,
> >>>>>>>>> not only for installations from within a TS session.
> >>>>>>>>> That setting can be found in Computer Configuration -
> >>>>>>>>> Administrative Templates - Windows Components -
> >>>>>>>>> Windows Installer "Disable Windows Installer"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Other troubleshooting tools could be:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 223300 - How to Enable Windows Installer Logging
> >>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=223300
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 221833 - How to enable user environment debug logging
> >>>>>>>>> in retail builds of Windows
> >>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221833
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> __ Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email
> >>>>>>>>> ___
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>> on 14 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Well I have went through on the domain controller
> >>>>>>>>>> and removed the group policy for that server.
> >>>>>>>>>> Even when consoled and logged in as Administrator it
> >>>>>>>>>> still gives that error.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Is there any chance a setting could have been set
> >>>>>>>>>> locally on that server. If so where does a person
> >>>>>>>>>> look to find out if it has been reset?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> thanks for your response
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Given the error message that you get, I'm still
> >>>>>>>>>>> convinced it's a GPO setting. Have you tried
> >>>>>>>>>>> resultant set of Policies?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> ___ __ Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private
> >>>>>>>>>>> email ___
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 08 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I found an article on doing that and it still
> >>>>>>>>>>>> isn't working. I have even restarted the terminal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> server to try and fix the issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Could there be a registry setting on the server
> >>>>>>>>>>>> itself that would prevent installations?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like you want to enable this GPO setting:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Configuration - Administrative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Templates - Windows Components - Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer "Allow admin to install from Terminal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Services session"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ ___ __ Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> email ___
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 08 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having an issue installing programs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consoled in and logged in as admininstrator.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It keeps giving the message of "The system
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator has set policies to prevent this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of any policy set to prevent this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from even happening for the administrator. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have went to the lengths of removing the group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy for the users and trying it again
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any luck.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to reset everything on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that server or any suggestions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TM

>
>
 
Re: Administrator Consoled in Can not install software

Asif Shah wrote:
> Thanks for the insight Hank.
>
> What GPO settings are talking about in particular? As Vera suggested I have
> the "Permissions compatible with Windows 2000 Users" in TSC already selected.
> I also have the windows installer GPO setting disabled. What other GPO can I
> touch. I will be changing the NTFS permissions today like Vera suggested.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> I'm a little confused... We control the installation of software by GPO.
>> No one except someone in the Administrators group can install software
>> on *ANY* computer (server, workstation, laptop, etc.)....period. In
>> addition, we have a firewall (part of the Sophos End Point Security)
>> that will not allow *any* program to run that has not been added to the
>> firewall security.
>>
>> We still have W2K servers with TS installed. I've never seen this
>> problem. I'm forwarding this to my work id and I'll see what I can find.
>>
>> To be honest, I can't guarantee I'll get to it today (Monday). This is
>> typically my busiest day with several weekly reports due in the AM, I
>> have to deal with all the problems the nurses have had over the weekend
>> with their laptops and remote access as well as some major issues that
>> just came up due to a vendor telling us that we need to spend a
>> significant amount of $$ that is not in the budget. You haven't lived
>> until you work for a non-profit and try to get IT money that isn't in
>> the budget... :-(
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hank Arnold
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Server - Directory Services
>>
>> Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
>>> Well, as I wrote, I don't remember the details of a W2K TS. During
>>> installation, you are asked to choose the "Compatibility mode". Is
>>> there anyting in tscc which mentions that? If so, you chould choose
>>> "Permissions compatible with Windows 2000 Users".
>>>
>>> Anyone else maybe, who has access to a W2K TS?
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>> Vera Noest
>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>>
>>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?= <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote on 02 aug 2008 in
>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>>
>>>> I am looking at the Terminal Services Configuration - Server
>>>> Settings, which setting do I change. I dont see anything that
>>>> says "relaxed security".
>>>>
>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, seems like the Terminal Services was installed with relaxed
>>>>> security. It's a long time ago that I worked with W2K TS, so
>>>>> I'm unsure about the details, but I believe that you can check
>>>>> (and change?) this in Terminal Services Configuration - Server
>>>>> settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll have to further secure the server with NTFS permissions
>>>>> on the file system. At the minimum, modify the NTFS permissions
>>>>> as follows:
>>>>> %SystemDrive%, %SystemRoot%, %ProgramFiles% and
>>>>> %SystemRoot%\system32 :
>>>>> System - Full Control
>>>>> Administrators - Full Control
>>>>> Authenticated Users - Read & Execute
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>> Vera Noest
>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>>>>
>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?= <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote on 01 aug 2008 in
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vera,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My appoligies for adding to an older thread. I just thought
>>>>>> since you were dicussing a similiar problem I would post my
>>>>>> issue. I will keep in mind nex time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am the administrator and I am trying to restrict all
>>>>>> non-admin users from installing software on the server. This
>>>>>> is on a Windows 2000 server. How can I check if I installed
>>>>>> TS with full security. Apprently something is not setup
>>>>>> right, because few days ago I discovered that new software
>>>>>> were installed, some games and Mozilla Firebox. I checked
>>>>>> with my admins and they didnt. So it had to have been a
>>>>>> regular user. No other user has right like us admins. I even
>>>>>> did a test. I logged in as a normal user whose password I
>>>>>> knew and I was able to download and install Firefox and other
>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing I have done is disable the windows installer
>>>>>> but seems like that only works for software that use windows
>>>>>> installer to install itself. The article I read from
>>>>>> Microsoft that talks about this GPO mentions this condition.
>>>>>> What else can I do? What else can I check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asif, you seem to append to an old thread which was about
>>>>>>> the opposite of your problem. That's very confusing. Next
>>>>>>> time, please start a new thread and clearly state your
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly is it that you want to achieve? I'm assuming
>>>>>>> that your are the Administrator of a TS, and that you want
>>>>>>> to prohibit users to install software, is that correct? Or
>>>>>>> do you want to disable this for all users, including
>>>>>>> Administrators?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you just want to take away this possibility for normal
>>>>>>> users, the answer is that they don't have the proper rights
>>>>>>> any way, assuming that you run on Windows 2003 and have
>>>>>>> installed Terminal Services with "Full Security". They can
>>>>>>> install applications in their home folder, but can't add or
>>>>>>> replace system files, dll's etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Vera Noest
>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>>>>>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?=
>>>>>>> <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 01 aug 2008:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vera,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have disabled the windows installer but that only
>>>>>>>> applies to software installations that use windows
>>>>>>>> installer to install itself. There are other installs that
>>>>>>>> dont use windows install. e.g. installing Mozilla Firefox.
>>>>>>>> I have the GPO you mentioned for the windows installer
>>>>>>>> enabled but i can still install firefox........what else
>>>>>>>> can i try?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, thanks for the feedback, I'm glad that your problem
>>>>>>>>> is solved! It's a bit puzzeling though that the problem
>>>>>>>>> didn't disappear by configuring the GPO setting in the
>>>>>>>>> domain-wide GPO applied to the TS, since those settings
>>>>>>>>> override the local policy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Vera Noest
>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on
>>>>>>>>> 14 nov 2007 in
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help it was the local policy that was
>>>>>>>>>> still turned on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you run Resultant Set of Policies, as I suggested
>>>>>>>>>>> in my previous post? That would tell you exactly which
>>>>>>>>>>> policy has the setting configured.
>>>>>>>>>>> You can edit the local policy with gpedit.msc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you get this error message even when you are logged
>>>>>>>>>>> in at the physical console of the server, then it
>>>>>>>>>>> seems that Windows Installer is disabled completely,
>>>>>>>>>>> not only for installations from within a TS session.
>>>>>>>>>>> That setting can be found in Computer Configuration -
>>>>>>>>>>> Administrative Templates - Windows Components -
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows Installer "Disable Windows Installer"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Other troubleshooting tools could be:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 223300 - How to Enable Windows Installer Logging
>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=223300
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 221833 - How to enable user environment debug logging
>>>>>>>>>>> in retail builds of Windows
>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221833
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> __ Vera Noest
>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email
>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> on 14 nov 2007 in
>>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I have went through on the domain controller
>>>>>>>>>>>> and removed the group policy for that server.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even when consoled and logged in as Administrator it
>>>>>>>>>>>> still gives that error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any chance a setting could have been set
>>>>>>>>>>>> locally on that server. If so where does a person
>>>>>>>>>>>> look to find out if it has been reset?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for your response
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the error message that you get, I'm still
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced it's a GPO setting. Have you tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resultant set of Policies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ __ Vera Noest
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 08 nov 2007 in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found an article on doing that and it still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't working. I have even restarted the terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server to try and fix the issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could there be a registry setting on the server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself that would prevent installations?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like you want to enable this GPO setting:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Configuration - Administrative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Templates - Windows Components - Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer "Allow admin to install from Terminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Services session"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ ___ __ Vera Noest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 08 nov 2007 in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having an issue installing programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consoled in and logged in as admininstrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It keeps giving the message of "The system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator has set policies to prevent this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of any policy set to prevent this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from even happening for the administrator. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have went to the lengths of removing the group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy for the users and trying it again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to reset everything on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that server or any suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TM

>>

I'll have to look into it... Its been along time since I updated the
GPO............



--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
 
Re: Administrator Consoled in Can not install software

OK. Let me know if you find something. Thanks.

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

> Asif Shah wrote:
> > Thanks for the insight Hank.
> >
> > What GPO settings are talking about in particular? As Vera suggested I have
> > the "Permissions compatible with Windows 2000 Users" in TSC already selected.
> > I also have the windows installer GPO setting disabled. What other GPO can I
> > touch. I will be changing the NTFS permissions today like Vera suggested.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm a little confused... We control the installation of software by GPO.
> >> No one except someone in the Administrators group can install software
> >> on *ANY* computer (server, workstation, laptop, etc.)....period. In
> >> addition, we have a firewall (part of the Sophos End Point Security)
> >> that will not allow *any* program to run that has not been added to the
> >> firewall security.
> >>
> >> We still have W2K servers with TS installed. I've never seen this
> >> problem. I'm forwarding this to my work id and I'll see what I can find.
> >>
> >> To be honest, I can't guarantee I'll get to it today (Monday). This is
> >> typically my busiest day with several weekly reports due in the AM, I
> >> have to deal with all the problems the nurses have had over the weekend
> >> with their laptops and remote access as well as some major issues that
> >> just came up due to a vendor telling us that we need to spend a
> >> significant amount of $$ that is not in the budget. You haven't lived
> >> until you work for a non-profit and try to get IT money that isn't in
> >> the budget... :-(
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hank Arnold
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Server - Directory Services
> >>
> >> Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
> >>> Well, as I wrote, I don't remember the details of a W2K TS. During
> >>> installation, you are asked to choose the "Compatibility mode". Is
> >>> there anyting in tscc which mentions that? If so, you chould choose
> >>> "Permissions compatible with Windows 2000 Users".
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else maybe, who has access to a W2K TS?
> >>> _________________________________________________________
> >>> Vera Noest
> >>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>>
> >>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?= <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote on 02 aug 2008 in
> >>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>
> >>>> I am looking at the Terminal Services Configuration - Server
> >>>> Settings, which setting do I change. I dont see anything that
> >>>> says "relaxed security".
> >>>>
> >>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> OK, seems like the Terminal Services was installed with relaxed
> >>>>> security. It's a long time ago that I worked with W2K TS, so
> >>>>> I'm unsure about the details, but I believe that you can check
> >>>>> (and change?) this in Terminal Services Configuration - Server
> >>>>> settings.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You'll have to further secure the server with NTFS permissions
> >>>>> on the file system. At the minimum, modify the NTFS permissions
> >>>>> as follows:
> >>>>> %SystemDrive%, %SystemRoot%, %ProgramFiles% and
> >>>>> %SystemRoot%\system32 :
> >>>>> System - Full Control
> >>>>> Administrators - Full Control
> >>>>> Authenticated Users - Read & Execute
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _________________________________________________________
> >>>>> Vera Noest
> >>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?= <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>>>> wrote on 01 aug 2008 in
> >>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Vera,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My appoligies for adding to an older thread. I just thought
> >>>>>> since you were dicussing a similiar problem I would post my
> >>>>>> issue. I will keep in mind nex time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am the administrator and I am trying to restrict all
> >>>>>> non-admin users from installing software on the server. This
> >>>>>> is on a Windows 2000 server. How can I check if I installed
> >>>>>> TS with full security. Apprently something is not setup
> >>>>>> right, because few days ago I discovered that new software
> >>>>>> were installed, some games and Mozilla Firebox. I checked
> >>>>>> with my admins and they didnt. So it had to have been a
> >>>>>> regular user. No other user has right like us admins. I even
> >>>>>> did a test. I logged in as a normal user whose password I
> >>>>>> knew and I was able to download and install Firefox and other
> >>>>>> software.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only thing I have done is disable the windows installer
> >>>>>> but seems like that only works for software that use windows
> >>>>>> installer to install itself. The article I read from
> >>>>>> Microsoft that talks about this GPO mentions this condition.
> >>>>>> What else can I do? What else can I check?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Asif, you seem to append to an old thread which was about
> >>>>>>> the opposite of your problem. That's very confusing. Next
> >>>>>>> time, please start a new thread and clearly state your
> >>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What exactly is it that you want to achieve? I'm assuming
> >>>>>>> that your are the Administrator of a TS, and that you want
> >>>>>>> to prohibit users to install software, is that correct? Or
> >>>>>>> do you want to disable this for all users, including
> >>>>>>> Administrators?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you just want to take away this possibility for normal
> >>>>>>> users, the answer is that they don't have the proper rights
> >>>>>>> any way, assuming that you run on Windows 2003 and have
> >>>>>>> installed Terminal Services with "Full Security". They can
> >>>>>>> install applications in their home folder, but can't add or
> >>>>>>> replace system files, dll's etc.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Vera Noest
> >>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?QXNpZiBTaGFo?=
> >>>>>>> <AsifShah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 01 aug 2008:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Vera,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have disabled the windows installer but that only
> >>>>>>>> applies to software installations that use windows
> >>>>>>>> installer to install itself. There are other installs that
> >>>>>>>> dont use windows install. e.g. installing Mozilla Firefox.
> >>>>>>>> I have the GPO you mentioned for the windows installer
> >>>>>>>> enabled but i can still install firefox........what else
> >>>>>>>> can i try?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> OK, thanks for the feedback, I'm glad that your problem
> >>>>>>>>> is solved! It's a bit puzzeling though that the problem
> >>>>>>>>> didn't disappear by configuring the GPO setting in the
> >>>>>>>>> domain-wide GPO applied to the TS, since those settings
> >>>>>>>>> override the local policy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on
> >>>>>>>>> 14 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help it was the local policy that was
> >>>>>>>>>> still turned on.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Did you run Resultant Set of Policies, as I suggested
> >>>>>>>>>>> in my previous post? That would tell you exactly which
> >>>>>>>>>>> policy has the setting configured.
> >>>>>>>>>>> You can edit the local policy with gpedit.msc
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you get this error message even when you are logged
> >>>>>>>>>>> in at the physical console of the server, then it
> >>>>>>>>>>> seems that Windows Installer is disabled completely,
> >>>>>>>>>>> not only for installations from within a TS session.
> >>>>>>>>>>> That setting can be found in Computer Configuration -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Administrative Templates - Windows Components -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Windows Installer "Disable Windows Installer"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Other troubleshooting tools could be:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 223300 - How to Enable Windows Installer Logging
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=223300
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 221833 - How to enable user environment debug logging
> >>>>>>>>>>> in retail builds of Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221833
> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> __ Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email
> >>>>>>>>>>> ___
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>> on 14 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well I have went through on the domain controller
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and removed the group policy for that server.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Even when consoled and logged in as Administrator it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> still gives that error.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any chance a setting could have been set
> >>>>>>>>>>>> locally on that server. If so where does a person
> >>>>>>>>>>>> look to find out if it has been reset?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for your response
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the error message that you get, I'm still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced it's a GPO setting. Have you tried
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> resultant set of Policies?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ __ Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> email ___
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 08 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found an article on doing that and it still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't working. I have even restarted the terminal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> server to try and fix the issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could there be a registry setting on the server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself that would prevent installations?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like you want to enable this GPO setting:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Configuration - Administrative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Templates - Windows Components - Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer "Allow admin to install from Terminal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Services session"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ ___ __ Vera Noest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email ___
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?Utf-8?B?VE0=?= <TM@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 08 nov 2007 in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having an issue installing programs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consoled in and logged in as admininstrator.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It keeps giving the message of "The system
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator has set policies to prevent this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of any policy set to prevent this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from even happening for the administrator. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have went to the lengths of removing the group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy for the users and trying it again
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any luck.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how to reset everything on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that server or any suggestions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TM
> >>

> I'll have to look into it... Its been along time since I updated the
> GPO............
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
>
 
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