Windows Vista The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

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Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

Inexperienced users would not have Administrator status and would be subject
to all the security measures currently in force. I still feel an
Administrator user should be able to do whatever he wishes without having to
jump through hoops and should not be absolutely prevented from accessing
elements of the OS if that is what's needed. The decision on what to access
or modify should be the Administrator's, not MSFT's.


"Starlionblue" wrote:

>
> uvbogden;530925 Wrote:
> >
> >
> > The second downside has to do with Security. Vista has been designed
> > to be
> > as tight as a drum and impermeable to all external threats. In the
> > process
> > of doing this, Vista also has many layers of protection that prevent
> > even
> > Administrators having access to do what needs to be done. MSFT’s
> > response to
> > IT terrorism has been to improve Homeland Security at the expense of
> > our
> > inborn Administrator liberties. Administrators should automatically
> > have
> > Ownership and Full Control of everything, should automatically have
> > “elevated
> > privileges”, and should never be denied access to anything. I’m OK
> > with
> > confirming “Are You Sure You Want To Do This?”, but anything
> > further is just
> > plain harassment and obstruction.
> >

>
> While I feel your pain, I don't really agree. You and I may be very
> experienced and know what we are doing, but most people are not. How
> many friends and family members have you had to help because they did
> something "stupid" you would never do. How many spyware and virus
> infested machines have you helped clean? A few simple "are you sure?"
> prompts would have helped a lot.
>
>
> --
> Starlionblue
>
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

I'm glad to see everyone here is in the holiday spirit.

"dzomlija" wrote:

>
> Frank;531411 Wrote:
> > Now go ---- -------- -------.
> > Frank

>
> Frank, I've just about had enough of your bad attitude here.
>
> Get lost.
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
> ____________________________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? -And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn-...
>
> - ASUS A8N32-SLI-Deluxe
> - AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
> - 4GB DDR400
> - 128MB ASUS nVidia 6600 PCI-Express
> - Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
> - 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
> - Vista Ultimate x64
> - CodeGear Delphi 2007'http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/' (http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/)
>
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

uvbogden wrote:
> I'm glad to see everyone here is in the holiday spirit.
>
> "dzomlija" wrote:
>
>
>>Frank;531411 Wrote:
>>
>>>Now go ---- -------- -------.
>>>Frank

>>
>>Frank, I've just about had enough of your bad attitude here.
>>
>>Get lost.
>>
>>
>>--
>>dzomlija
>>
>>____________________________________
>>Peter Alexander Dzomlija
>>Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? -And as
>>you die, so shall I be Reborn-...
>>
>>- ASUS A8N32-SLI-Deluxe
>>- AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
>>- 4GB DDR400
>>- 128MB ASUS nVidia 6600 PCI-Express
>>- Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
>>- 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
>>- Vista Ultimate x64
>>- CodeGear Delphi 2007'http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/' (http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/)
>>


:-D
Frank
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

uvbogden wrote:
> Inexperienced users would not have Administrator status and would be subject
> to all the security measures currently in force. I still feel an
> Administrator user should be able to do whatever he wishes without having to
> jump through hoops and should not be absolutely prevented from accessing
> elements of the OS if that is what's needed. The decision on what to access
> or modify should be the Administrator's, not MSFT's.
>
>




That's why most intelligent people are moving away
from MS.
caver1
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

caver1 wrote:
> uvbogden wrote:
>
>> Inexperienced users would not have Administrator status and would be
>> subject to all the security measures currently in force. I still feel
>> an Administrator user should be able to do whatever he wishes without
>> having to jump through hoops and should not be absolutely prevented
>> from accessing elements of the OS if that is what's needed. The
>> decision on what to access or modify should be the Administrator's,
>> not MSFT's.
>>
>>

>
>
>
> That's why most intelligent people are moving away from MS.
> caver1


So why are you still here?
Frank
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

This is exactly what I expected from people who defend something like Vista.
You're not even worth my time.

"Frank" wrote:

> uvbogden wrote:
> > I'm glad to see everyone here is in the holiday spirit.
> >
> > "dzomlija" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Frank;531411 Wrote:
> >>
> >>>Now go ---- -------- -------.
> >>>Frank
> >>
> >>Frank, I've just about had enough of your bad attitude here.
> >>
> >>Get lost.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>dzomlija
> >>
> >>____________________________________
> >>Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> >>Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? -And as
> >>you die, so shall I be Reborn-...
> >>
> >>- ASUS A8N32-SLI-Deluxe
> >>- AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
> >>- 4GB DDR400
> >>- 128MB ASUS nVidia 6600 PCI-Express
> >>- Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
> >>- 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
> >>- Vista Ultimate x64
> >>- CodeGear Delphi 2007'http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/' (http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/)
> >>

>
> :-D
> Frank
>
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

GermanEngineer wrote:

> This is exactly what I expected from people who defend something like Vista.
> You're not even worth my time.
>
> "Frank" wrote:
>
>
>>uvbogden wrote:
>>
>>>I'm glad to see everyone here is in the holiday spirit.
>>>
>>>"dzomlija" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Frank;531411 Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Now go ---- -------- -------.
>>>>>Frank
>>>>
>>>>Frank, I've just about had enough of your bad attitude here.
>>>>
>>>>Get lost.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>dzomlija
>>>>
>>>>____________________________________
>>>>Peter Alexander Dzomlija
>>>>Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? -And as
>>>>you die, so shall I be Reborn-...
>>>>
>>>>- ASUS A8N32-SLI-Deluxe
>>>>- AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
>>>>- 4GB DDR400
>>>>- 128MB ASUS nVidia 6600 PCI-Express
>>>>- Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
>>>>- 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
>>>>- Vista Ultimate x64
>>>>- CodeGear Delphi 2007'http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/' (http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/)
>>>>

>>
>>:-D
>>Frank
>>


Then why bother?
Frank
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
news:OVTGiQHNIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> caver1 wrote:
>> uvbogden wrote:
>>
>>> Inexperienced users would not have Administrator status and would be
>>> subject to all the security measures currently in force. I still feel
>>> an Administrator user should be able to do whatever he wishes without
>>> having to jump through hoops and should not be absolutely prevented from
>>> accessing elements of the OS if that is what's needed. The decision on
>>> what to access or modify should be the Administrator's, not MSFT's.

>>
>> That's why most intelligent people are moving away from MS.
>> caver1

> So why are you still here?
> Frank


IT CERTAINLY EXPLAINS WHY fRANK IS STILL HERE! LOL
 
Re: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

Not Me wrote:
> "Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
> news:OVTGiQHNIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> caver1 wrote:
>>> uvbogden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Inexperienced users would not have Administrator status and would be
>>>> subject to all the security measures currently in force. I still feel
>>>> an Administrator user should be able to do whatever he wishes without
>>>> having to jump through hoops and should not be absolutely prevented from
>>>> accessing elements of the OS if that is what's needed. The decision on
>>>> what to access or modify should be the Administrator's, not MSFT's.
>>> That's why most intelligent people are moving away from MS.
>>> caver1

>> So why are you still here?
>> Frank



I have moved away from MS personally but there are
others that I support that haven't so I do try to
keep up.
caver1
 
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