Re: Tricky Win98 Format - Netiquette falicies
Re: Tricky Win98 Format - Netiquette falicies
"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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| "MEB" <meb@not
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| news:uGOxsAhOIHA.5140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > WHHHOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHH, right over your head, I see that demonstration
| > was
| > lost upon you as well.. to bad...
| <snip>
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| Must admit I still have difficulty with your :
| "I created two posts... one specifically for USENET, and one for THIS
| server"
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| All posts to Microsoft.public news groups are available on Usenet, so how
| is it possible for you to "create" a post that won't appear?
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| (It does not matter if the subscriber is using their ISP news server, or
| the Microsoft server to read posts)
| The whole World is not contained within the USA.
|
Okay, that poses a reasonable question so I'll answer.
Both of those posts were posted UPON and through Microsoft's [actually the
main host's server since Microsoft off-loaded much of its services to other
servers under contract, though it may be back within Microsoft] server and
forum, that's *HERE*, where I post, I do NOT post on or through USENET.
This server, as you noted, is a *SEPARATE AND DISTINCT ENTITY* from USENET,
and is no part of it. Not uniquely, even though your original post noted the
differences, there was a break down between the understanding.
Microsoft could have setup this service requiring parties who wish to post
through it or to it, in the same form as Google and other services, ISPs and
other, which REQUIRES one to have an account, however, Microsoft chose to
provide this server and service to the public and for their use, and
provided several ways to post in it, the web interface, newsreaders, USENET,
and directly.
Such is not done without constraint, Microsoft has instituted filters, and
does modify them from time to time to hopefully ensure that inappropriate
content does not appear. However, it remains MICROSOFT'S forum, not ANY
other service or other that ECHOES IT. Any posts coming from external
sources ARE filtered, the same as local postings are.
Yes, you can QOUTE material from OUTSIDE sources which might make it
through the filters, as you have shown, though the filter rules try to
ensure these things don't happen. Note I used a mild term to use as the BAIT
within that post should it be placed here from an external source, hopefully
it is so benign that even children or their parents are not offended
[perhaps even causing a good laugh].
Occasionally those changes cause havoc when some modification blocks
material which does not need blocked. We occasionally have discussions HERE
[this forum] concerning blocked posts and those modifications, or these are
noted [generally without extensive comment] when someone complains they had
to post several times for the item to appear [though that also happens when
other server maintenance is done].
However, USENET, actually hundreds/thousands of INDIVIDUAL servers and
services and other, loosely referred to as USENET, Google, and other News
Services [generally private services] automatically pull FROM this
server/host, and generally each individual service *WITH THEIR OWN DISTINCT
POSTING RULES*. Don't miss that, there are thousands of *supposed Netiquette
rules* across the planet.
They may contain postings which will NEVER appear here upon Microsoft's
server, the MASTER HOST, the controller of the forum.
This master forum occasionally receives a *RE: {something}* which never
appeared here [the master host] in the first place, which sometimes causes
someone to respond with a *huh, what are you talking about*, because those
that receive this forum directly do NOT receive the USENET drivel, UNLESS it
passes the master host's filters.
The demonstration, if you followed the posts, was produced to show this
distinction, and to show how ignorant 98 Guy was concerning these aspects
[as I posted]. The specifically created USENET post [actually just a regular
post here on the master host] contained material which would NOT be posted d
irectly within forum [it flicked in but was removed even before *I* could
download it] though it was submitted through and upon THIS master
server/host, but WOULD be pulled from the server automatically [before
filtering] by those services which monitor postings here, which is generally
referred to as USENET.
You posted the entire *BAIT POST*, which I knew 98 Guy could not resist
responding to, due to the apparent intense need for ego building, but does
not appear here on the master host, at least not until you and 98 Guy posted
it..
Look carefully at those responses,,,, not only does 98 Guy fail to grasp
the issues, but posts absolutely ignorant threats, this is typical of the
discussions with this party.
Look at the material carefully [the message headers]... look at the content
of the thread and the postings related, and it should have been rather
obvious what it was, and what it proofed.
Not only should this have demonstrated [and it does] the DISTINCT
differences, but it also responded to the other completely ignorant postings
98 Guy had placed within this forum. Moreover, the continued postings by 98
Guy exposed the EXACT apparent indications of which I had placed. Once again
this entity COMPLETELY fails to grasp the reality of the world and how all
this on the Internet works EVEN WHEN DEMONSTRATED by the very person HE
CLAIMS doesn't understand ...
This should be enough to explain it, but if more is required, perhaps
others can respond as I have lost interest [unless 98 Guy puts more dumb
stuff here, though I may just ignore it], I have achieved what I set out to
do...
BTW: no one has responded to those unanswered questions I posted to expose
other segments of this post on Netiquette fallacies. Any *takers* out there?
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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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