Re: A problem using Bing
ms wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:uLn7cd6OIHA.1188
| @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
|
|> ms wrote:
|>| My intent is to format a P166 for use as a DOS computer.
|>| It had W95, a prior uninstall of Norton AV caused error screens so I
|>| had to format.
|>|
|>| When I tried a W95 boot disk, format, got error: insufficient memory
|>| to load system files.
|>
|> Well, here's an article that mentions that...
|>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177864
|> Insufficient Memory to Load System Files
|>
....snip of quote from article...
|>
|>| I then ran Bing, it did format, I rebooted with the W95 boot disk,
|>| at A:, entered C:, no C:.
|>
|> BING, if I recall correctly, doesn't have a separate FORMAT command.
|> The format is done automatically after a partition is created, if it
|> is a FAT partition.
|>
| Thanks, PCR
You are welcome.
| That explains the error screen, if I can get back there, I'll try
| that.
|
| Format is a Bing command in Maintenance Mode.
Yes, I see, reviewing the BootItNG.pdf, that's right-- it does seem
there is an option whether to format certain partition types (FAT types
for sure) during the process of creating them. After that, there will be
a format command offered in Maintenance Mode, right, I guess to
re-format it when desirable, which must wipe it. OK, then.
But I don't recall having to separately format mine-- I guess the option
to do it was selected by default during the create. Or, I have forgotten
that I did select it.
|>| Ran Bing again, named the drive C, but see legend that the drive is
|>| not available to anything as it has Bing installed on it.
|>
|> It isn't the name of the partition that matters. It's the letter. You
|> can't assign the letter, that's automatic by these rules...
|>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=51978
|> Order in Which MS-DOS and Windows Assign Drive Letters
|>
| Sorry, bad sleep, or would have remembered.
OK. (I barely remember these things, myself.)
|>| Then rebooted with W95 boot disk, message: can't find Bing, assume
|>| it wants the Bing boot disk.
|>
|> I'm not sure exactly what you did with BING. Could it be you created
|> something that was not a FAT partition?
|>
| When I got the (turns out) standard error screen above, then I tried
| Bing to work with the hard disk.
| Bing formatted as a FAT 32 partition.
Normally (as I recall it), BING creates & installs itself into a special
partition type called EMBRM (I believe)-- not a FAT32 partition. To get
it into a FAT32 partition, I believe you would separately have to create
the partition, & then choose to have BING install into it. Is that what
you did?
Can it be the FDISK on a Win95 Startup Diskette will not recognize a
FAT32 partition, as Lil' Dave suspects? And I'm fairly sure no FDISK
will recognize an EMBRM. Therefore, continue at Terabyte support. I know
you are not seeing an uninstall option after you boot the BING
partition. What about doing it manually, as Terabyte suggested? Boot the
BING partition, &...
......Quote Terabyte's answer to you......
to manually uninstall, click undo embr, click view mbr, ensure the
correct
partition is active, click std mbr, apply.
......EOQ...............................................
If that works, then delete whatever partitions remain using BING. You
may need to reboot to Maintenance Mode first off the BING floppy. Then,
create one that is a FAT16, (unless you discover that FAT32 ultimately
really will be OK for DOS 6.22. Then, make it another FAT32, but get a
better FDISK...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263044
Latest FDISK)
|>| I need to wind up with a C drive for DOS, and have created something
|>| else.
|>|
|>| Advice?
|>
|> Maybe...
|>
|> (1) Boot the BING floppy, & get into the Work with Partitions Screen.
|> Do that by clicking CANCEL at the Install Requestor.
|> (2) Uninstall BING from the hard drive, if you've installed it.
|> (If you can, do this before step one.)
|
| As I replied to Glen, there is where I'm stopped. At this point, can't
| uninstall Bing.
Boot the BING partition, & see whether you can do the manual uninstall
Terabyte said. If that fails, see whether BING will delete the
partitions, especially the EMBRM if still there, after booting the BING
Maintenance Diskette. Also, see whether it will replace BING's MBR with
a standard MBR.
|> (3) Delete the partition you created earlier, if still there.
|>
|> Now, create your partition. Make sure it is a FAT partition. Make
|> sure it is a Primary partition. If you use BING to do it, you won't
|> have to FORMAT it. If you use the Windows Startup Diskette to create
|> the partition with FDISK, then you must reboot & format it. If there
|> is only one partition, it will be C: after that reboot.
|>
|
| I would do that if I could.
|
| I tried the W95 startup disk again, can use a W98 disk but believe the
| results would be the same. I wind up at A prompt, but it does not
| recognize C until I can get rid of Bing.
It could be as Lil' Dave said-- a Win95A FDISK is inadequate to the
task. But I somehow doubt even an updated FDISK would see an EMBRM (If
you've got one). It certainly, you know, would see a FAT32, though.
| ms
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
artition. I do think there should be a message on its install screen