Re: Vista (beta )version 6.0 build 6001 service pak 1,v.668) one year later.
The SP1 update is available now still in essential beta form, but it is at
the discretion of the user as to whether it is downloaded and run, just as
it is with anything else.
Microsoft are not telling the user to do anything. They are giving users the
opportunity to try it out. Until it comes down through WU as a critical
update, nothing is being forced on anybody.
If a computer has user induced problems prior to installing, they will still
remain or possibly get worse after installing SP1. For many, I can assure
you that installation has gone without a hitch. I am one of them..
It has long been known that the computer user is the main problem, and
nothing has changed in that respect. Use of a computer should be easy, but
the expectations of computer owners these days prevents that. There are too
many wild variables around, and the great majority of those variables are
between the chair and the keyboard.
--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
"Kue2" <Kue2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hello Mike
> hmmmmm
> Where to begin
> quoted from your earlier reply
> "There is no better 'test' area ultimately than out in the wild. It would
>>>> be impossible for Microsoft or anybody else to test stuff over such a
>>>> wide range of configurations 'in house'.
> and is this message.
> Then you state:"I also have local clients
>> who are happy with nothing because they continually mess with stuff.
>
> Microsoft makes a sp1 available to the "general public" so they can Mess
> with Stuff & want to know their experiences.
> You say on one hand that it is alright for Microsoft to tell people to
> Mess with stuff,but on the other side tell people they should not Mess
> with Stuff?
> Hmmmmmmm LOL
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:%23b5mdCbPIHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Yours may well be full of 'bugs'. Mine isn't and this is partly down to
>> what I have already written.
>>
>> I have local clients who are happy with Vista, and I also have local
>> clients who are happy with nothing because they continually mess with
>> stuff, fall for every Internet scam in the book, and run every 'one
>> click' fix known to man in order to get over the problems that they
>> themselves have created despite warnings by me not to do some things.
>>
>> One of them keeps getting virus/Trojans because of the insistence to
>> download stuff off of Limewire.
>>
>> Another incident was created because a client couldn't get high speed
>> Internet, and tried and failed three times to install an analogue modem,
>> changing all kinds of settings in the process. It turned out that the
>> client had pulled the power on the high speed modem, but it all took
>> longer to fix than just turning on the power again.
>>
>> A client's daughter couldn't get onto Sympatico high speed one day, and
>> so installed Primus dialup. When the client asked me why his Primus
>> e-mail wasn't working, I told him that he had Sympatico mail, and that I
>> wasn't at all surprised re Primus. He told me that IE6 had 'supplied by
>> Primus' emblazoned on it, and that he was fairly sure that he had Primus
>> Internet. He just didn't know what he had. I did sort it all out for him,
>> and told him to keep his daughter away from the computer.
>>
>> One of my clients called me to ask if I could transfer pictures and other
>> stuff from the old computer to a new one just bought. Yeah, no problem,
>> except that she had already given the old computer to her daughter. It
>> was slow and kept popping up messages she didn't understand, hence the
>> new one. The messages all related to the old hard drive failing, which it
>> did terminally a day and a half later, before I could get to it. I asked
>> the original owner if there were any signs at all of something going
>> wrong. I was told by her that she had done nothing to it, but over the
>> last week of ownership, it didn't always boot properly and everything was
>> sooooooooooooo slow.
>>
>> One well meaning friend of a client tried to fix XP problems by
>> installing and running a registry cleaner. After completely screwing up
>> the system, the friend then tried to fix the system by installing Windows
>> 98. The call I got was 'how do you fix XP problems using a Win 98 CD?'.
>> Any takers?
>>
>> The single most prevalent problem with any computer system is situated
>> between the back of the chair and the keyboard, and until that component
>> can be brought under control, the average computer installation doesn't
>> have a chance in hell of ever working as it should.
>>
>> I am not suggesting that it is all the fault of the user. Software is
>> never perfect, even when written specifically for one set of hardware
>> specifications 'a la' Mac, but when one takes into consideration the
>> actions of some users, especially those who have constructed their own
>> computers from parts, using enough thermal paste to ice a five tier
>> wedding cake, gotten the stuff in the memory slots, not cabled the thing
>> up correctly, left off the CPU fan assembly because they couldn't get it
>> to fit using a pair of household scissors, it is a wonder that computers
>> work at all..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kue2" <Kue2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u6UEbEaPIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> The "Software" has as many bugs in it today as it had a year ago.Anyone
>>> looking for a cure for Vista in SP1 is going to be disappointed.
>>> It's time to get off the soap -box & smell the coffee, Mike.
>>> The one word to sum up would be "Lemon".
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eo3aP9ZPIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> There is no better 'test' area ultimately than out in the wild. It
>>>> would be impossible for Microsoft or anybody else to test stuff over
>>>> such a wide range of configurations 'in house'.
>>>>
>>>> Bear in mind that not all people suffer the same problems. I never had
>>>> the problems seen by some. My hardware worked from day one as did 99%
>>>> of my software. I wasn't just lucky. I didn't mess with stuff, and I
>>>> followed instructions to the letter. I never assumed that Vista was XP
>>>> with a black task bar. I didn't try to make it emulate Windows 95. I
>>>> don't use registry cleaners or anything else which promises a 'one
>>>> click' fix. I research everything before blindly clicking on 'OK' or
>>>> 'Yes'. I have learned the value of the 'back' button if I am not sure
>>>> about something.
>>>>
>>>> I know how the computer runs when initially set up, and if there is any
>>>> variance in performance, and I mean 'ANY', I look for the reason BEFORE
>>>> it escalates to the point where nothing works. I never ever say to
>>>> myself 'Oh well, I guess this happens after a while'.
>>>>
>>>> There are ALWAYS options. Some may cost a little more, but that is the
>>>> choice for the individual to make.
>>>>
>>>> Before upgrading anything, ensure that you have the means to revert
>>>> back to what you know works for you if things go wrong. Do NOT wait
>>>> until you have a crippled system before thinking about this.
>>>>
>>>> Your overall computing experience will be enhanced if you take the time
>>>> to research and consider the effects of the changes you are about to
>>>> make.
>>>>
>>>> None of us ever stop learning. The point at which we think we 'know it
>>>> all' is where the tears start.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kue2" <Kue2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23YS5ypZPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Microsoft got everyone to participate in a beta & got everyone to pay
>>>>> for the privilege.
>>>>> The "New" age of software development.(version 6.0 build 6001 service
>>>>> pak 1,v.668.).
>>>>
>>>
>>
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