When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

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When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit i am
waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and start
on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new software
to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to do
this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows we
can not wait
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS has
not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
machines out there now.

Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
not MS.

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit i
> am
> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> start
> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> software
> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to do
> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows
> we
> can not wait
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support for
64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better then
32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more safer
then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X have no
virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
third-party because they can start develop more better software for the new
64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy for
Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer. I also
no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS has
> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
> machines out there now.
>
> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
> not MS.
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit i
> > am
> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> > start
> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> > software
> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to do
> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows
> > we
> > can not wait
>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

32-bit software runs natively under 64-bit Windows, including viruses. OS X
doesn't have as many viruses because nobody cares about OS X. It has too
small a market share to be any fun attacking it. All the action is in the
Windows world.

MS isn't going to share any code with third-party manufacturers. It's code
is proprietary.

The makers of third party software are responsible for supporting 64-bits.
Gripe at them, not MS. MS is not some government agency that goes around
telling people what they have to do. The marketplace will take of that in
good time.

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F92F7566-233E-4892-957A-A2A44820B3DC@microsoft.com...
> MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support
> for
> 64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better then
> 32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more
> safer
> then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X have
> no
> virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
> third-party because they can start develop more better software for the
> new
> 64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy for
> Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer. I
> also
> no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
>> has
>> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
>> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
>> machines out there now.
>>
>> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
>> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
>> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
>> not MS.
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> > 32-bit i
>> > am
>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
>> > start
>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> > software
>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
>> > do
>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> > windows
>> > we
>> > can not wait
>>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete
with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for being a
MVP you don't no your windows that well

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> 32-bit software runs natively under 64-bit Windows, including viruses. OS X
> doesn't have as many viruses because nobody cares about OS X. It has too
> small a market share to be any fun attacking it. All the action is in the
> Windows world.
>
> MS isn't going to share any code with third-party manufacturers. It's code
> is proprietary.
>
> The makers of third party software are responsible for supporting 64-bits.
> Gripe at them, not MS. MS is not some government agency that goes around
> telling people what they have to do. The marketplace will take of that in
> good time.
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F92F7566-233E-4892-957A-A2A44820B3DC@microsoft.com...
> > MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support
> > for
> > 64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better then
> > 32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more
> > safer
> > then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X have
> > no
> > virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
> > third-party because they can start develop more better software for the
> > new
> > 64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy for
> > Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer. I
> > also
> > no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
> >> has
> >> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
> >> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
> >> machines out there now.
> >>
> >> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> >> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
> >> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
> >> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
> >> not MS.
> >>
> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
> >> > 32-bit i
> >> > am
> >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> >> > start
> >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> >> > software
> >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
> >> > do
> >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
> >> > windows
> >> > we
> >> > can not wait
> >>
>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message

> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> supporting 64-bit sufficiently

That is not the problem, the problem is the other guys. It seems like
everyone just ignores 64bit. The software of today is for 32 bit OS so why
waste money and buy Windows XP 64 or Vista 64 bit if other vendors don't
support them? Besides, computer magazines claim that Vista is slower than
XP. Go figure.
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just fine
on my Vista Ultimate x64 box. The 64-bit processors contain all the
standard instructions for running x86 software. That's why you see "86_64"
describing the Intel Core processors. That's also why the newer x64
instruction set is called "extensions."

In any case, if 32-bit software couldn't run there would be no reason to
have the WOW64 layer or to have the Programs Files(x86) folder in x64
Windows.

I don't want to resort to suggesting that you could drive at your IQ without
risking getting a ticket, but you do need to better inform yourself on
what's up these days with running software on the new operating systems.


"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46E995A5-78F2-4B6E-B61A-05CC60668E18@microsoft.com...
> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete
> with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for being
> a
> MVP you don't no your windows that well
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> 32-bit software runs natively under 64-bit Windows, including viruses.
>> OS X
>> doesn't have as many viruses because nobody cares about OS X. It has too
>> small a market share to be any fun attacking it. All the action is in
>> the
>> Windows world.
>>
>> MS isn't going to share any code with third-party manufacturers. It's
>> code
>> is proprietary.
>>
>> The makers of third party software are responsible for supporting
>> 64-bits.
>> Gripe at them, not MS. MS is not some government agency that goes around
>> telling people what they have to do. The marketplace will take of that
>> in
>> good time.
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F92F7566-233E-4892-957A-A2A44820B3DC@microsoft.com...
>> > MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support
>> > for
>> > 64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better
>> > then
>> > 32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more
>> > safer
>> > then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X
>> > have
>> > no
>> > virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
>> > third-party because they can start develop more better software for the
>> > new
>> > 64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy
>> > for
>> > Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer.
>> > I
>> > also
>> > no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
>> >> has
>> >> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
>> >> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
>> >> machines out there now.
>> >>
>> >> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>> >> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
>> >> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
>> >> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for
>> >> 64-bit,
>> >> not MS.
>> >>
>> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> >> > 32-bit i
>> >> > am
>> >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>> >> > and
>> >> > start
>> >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> >> > software
>> >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> >> > windows
>> >> > we
>> >> > can not wait
>> >>
>>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

All of you download 64-bit windows XP and see the speed of 64-bit and
performance of 64-bite use it for one day and come back here wote the good
and bad things about windows XP 64-bit ok and you will see the power of a
real OS and a Normal OS 32-bit system, The future of all OS is 64-bit and
look at the pass OS 32-bit

"Greg Lamonte" wrote:

>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> > Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> > supporting 64-bit sufficiently
>
> That is not the problem, the problem is the other guys. It seems like
> everyone just ignores 64bit. The software of today is for 32 bit OS so why
> waste money and buy Windows XP 64 or Vista 64 bit if other vendors don't
> support them? Besides, computer magazines claim that Vista is slower than
> XP. Go figure.
>
>
>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

What the heck do you think the people in a newsgroup titled
"microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general" are running? Commodore 64's?

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CD5A6729-7FA1-4591-9E5F-E19267D08356@microsoft.com...
> All of you download 64-bit windows XP and see the speed of 64-bit and
> performance of 64-bite use it for one day and come back here wote the good
> and bad things about windows XP 64-bit ok and you will see the power of a
> real OS and a Normal OS 32-bit system, The future of all OS is 64-bit and
> look at the pass OS 32-bit
>
> "Greg Lamonte" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>> > supporting 64-bit sufficiently
>>
>> That is not the problem, the problem is the other guys. It seems like
>> everyone just ignores 64bit. The software of today is for 32 bit OS so
>> why
>> waste money and buy Windows XP 64 or Vista 64 bit if other vendors don't
>> support them? Besides, computer magazines claim that Vista is slower than
>> XP. Go figure.
>>
>>
>>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I think that it would be more important to improve Windows for the future
many multi core cpu's that will be coming out. Also hybrid cpu's that
include gpu cores or other types of cores besides general purpose cpu cores.
Also what about 128 bit? Wouldn't there be benefits to have 128 bit
functionality inside of a cpu? I don't mean about the amount of memory that
can be accessed with 128 bit addressing, but about math type computing.


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:F98E63A1-B65D-4E24-8965-3E5AE0EA8167@microsoft.com...
> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS has
> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
> machines out there now.
>
> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
> not MS.
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit
>> i am
>> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
>> start
>> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> software
>> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
>> do
>> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows
>> we
>> can not wait
>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I think you are confusing drivers with applications. drivers must be 64 bit
on the 64 bit o/s, applications can be 32 bit or 64 bit.

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46E995A5-78F2-4B6E-B61A-05CC60668E18@microsoft.com...
> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete
> with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for being
> a
> MVP you don't no your windows that well
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> 32-bit software runs natively under 64-bit Windows, including viruses.
>> OS X
>> doesn't have as many viruses because nobody cares about OS X. It has too
>> small a market share to be any fun attacking it. All the action is in
>> the
>> Windows world.
>>
>> MS isn't going to share any code with third-party manufacturers. It's
>> code
>> is proprietary.
>>
>> The makers of third party software are responsible for supporting
>> 64-bits.
>> Gripe at them, not MS. MS is not some government agency that goes around
>> telling people what they have to do. The marketplace will take of that
>> in
>> good time.
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F92F7566-233E-4892-957A-A2A44820B3DC@microsoft.com...
>> > MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support
>> > for
>> > 64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better
>> > then
>> > 32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more
>> > safer
>> > then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X
>> > have
>> > no
>> > virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
>> > third-party because they can start develop more better software for the
>> > new
>> > 64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy
>> > for
>> > Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer.
>> > I
>> > also
>> > no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
>> >> has
>> >> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
>> >> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
>> >> machines out there now.
>> >>
>> >> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>> >> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
>> >> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
>> >> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for
>> >> 64-bit,
>> >> not MS.
>> >>
>> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> >> > 32-bit i
>> >> > am
>> >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>> >> > and
>> >> > start
>> >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> >> > software
>> >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> >> > windows
>> >> > we
>> >> > can not wait
>> >>
>>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I have a Commodore 64 sitting beside me.
As I pick it up I see that one of the keys on the keyboard has broken.
Apparently my Sony Betamax fell over onto my commodore 64 computer and broke
it.
I have got to put these valuable antiques away into a vault for safe
keeping.


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:B0A8A280-81D7-481E-B758-E3BBA1B49DD7@microsoft.com...
> What the heck do you think the people in a newsgroup titled
> "microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general" are running? Commodore 64's?
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CD5A6729-7FA1-4591-9E5F-E19267D08356@microsoft.com...
>> All of you download 64-bit windows XP and see the speed of 64-bit and
>> performance of 64-bite use it for one day and come back here wote the
>> good
>> and bad things about windows XP 64-bit ok and you will see the power of a
>> real OS and a Normal OS 32-bit system, The future of all OS is 64-bit and
>> look at the pass OS 32-bit
>>
>> "Greg Lamonte" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>>> > supporting 64-bit sufficiently
>>>
>>> That is not the problem, the problem is the other guys. It seems like
>>> everyone just ignores 64bit. The software of today is for 32 bit OS so
>>> why
>>> waste money and buy Windows XP 64 or Vista 64 bit if other vendors don't
>>> support them? Besides, computer magazines claim that Vista is slower
>>> than
>>> XP. Go figure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

And, apparently you don't 'know' how to spell correctly!


shadow wrote:
> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete
> with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for being a
> MVP you don't no your windows that well
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> 32-bit software runs natively under 64-bit Windows, including viruses. OS X
>> doesn't have as many viruses because nobody cares about OS X. It has too
>> small a market share to be any fun attacking it. All the action is in the
>> Windows world.
>>
>> MS isn't going to share any code with third-party manufacturers. It's code
>> is proprietary.
>>
>> The makers of third party software are responsible for supporting 64-bits.
>> Gripe at them, not MS. MS is not some government agency that goes around
>> telling people what they have to do. The marketplace will take of that in
>> good time.
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F92F7566-233E-4892-957A-A2A44820B3DC@microsoft.com...
>>> MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support
>>> for
>>> 64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better then
>>> 32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more
>>> safer
>>> then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X have
>>> no
>>> virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
>>> third-party because they can start develop more better software for the
>>> new
>>> 64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy for
>>> Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer. I
>>> also
>>> no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
>>>> has
>>>> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
>>>> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
>>>> machines out there now.
>>>>
>>>> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>>>> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
>>>> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
>>>> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
>>>> not MS.
>>>>
>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>>>>> 32-bit i
>>>>> am
>>>>> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
>>>>> start
>>>>> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>>>>> software
>>>>> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
>>>>> do
>>>>> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>>>>> windows
>>>>> we
>>>>> can not wait
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

shadow,
Colin is, among others, one of the most respected guys in this NG.
He is very knowledgeable and deserves your respect.
Carlos

"shadow" wrote:

> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete
> with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for being a
> MVP you don't no your windows that well
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
> > 32-bit software runs natively under 64-bit Windows, including viruses. OS X
> > doesn't have as many viruses because nobody cares about OS X. It has too
> > small a market share to be any fun attacking it. All the action is in the
> > Windows world.
> >
> > MS isn't going to share any code with third-party manufacturers. It's code
> > is proprietary.
> >
> > The makers of third party software are responsible for supporting 64-bits.
> > Gripe at them, not MS. MS is not some government agency that goes around
> > telling people what they have to do. The marketplace will take of that in
> > good time.
> >
> > "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:F92F7566-233E-4892-957A-A2A44820B3DC@microsoft.com...
> > > MS need start supporting 64-bit OS third-party software need to support
> > > for
> > > 64-bit i saw bill gates keynotes about 64-bit OS it looks more better then
> > > 32-bit OS i also use 64-bit OS its more faster then 32-bit and its more
> > > safer
> > > then 64-bit OS all the Virus are in 32-bit that could be why mac OS X have
> > > no
> > > virus, MS need to start sharing there Final Version of the OS code to
> > > third-party because they can start develop more better software for the
> > > new
> > > 64-bit OS, When MS said something they don't always do it. i am happy for
> > > Window Server 2008 is the last 32-bit version now people can be safer. I
> > > also
> > > no more and more people have 64-bit intel Processor or AMD Processor.
> > >
> > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
> > >> has
> > >> not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
> > >> Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
> > >> machines out there now.
> > >>
> > >> Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> > >> supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
> > >> 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
> > >> third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
> > >> not MS.
> > >>
> > >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
> > >> > 32-bit i
> > >> > am
> > >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> > >> > start
> > >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> > >> > software
> > >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
> > >> > do
> > >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
> > >> > windows
> > >> > we
> > >> > can not wait
> > >>
> >
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. You
might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation of
Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective choice
of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)

Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to
multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also interesting
to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits
respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? (That
translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
register, or memory location the same as the content in another given stack,
register, or memory location?)

How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!

Tom Ferguson


"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit i
> am
> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> start
> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> software
> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to do
> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows
> we
> can not wait
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Hi, Gary.

Wow! A 64-bit Commodore! When was that built - about 1980?

Oh. Not 64-bit. But 64 KILObytes of RAM? Let's see now, I just doubled
the RAM in my 64-bit computer to 4 GIGAbytes of PC-6400. How's that for
progress! ;<)

My guess is that "shadow" was not yet born when that Commodore 64 was built.
;^}

By the way, did you see the January 2008 issue of PC World magazine? On
page 81 is a small report on the new Commodore GX gaming machine. They
looked at the $3,000 model. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Gary Mount" <gary_mount@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:661A93CE-B529-4261-A2A8-0AB498F1EF18@microsoft.com...
> I have a Commodore 64 sitting beside me.
> As I pick it up I see that one of the keys on the keyboard has broken.
> Apparently my Sony Betamax fell over onto my commodore 64 computer and
> broke it.
> I have got to put these valuable antiques away into a vault for safe
> keeping.
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:B0A8A280-81D7-481E-B758-E3BBA1B49DD7@microsoft.com...
>> What the heck do you think the people in a newsgroup titled
>> "microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general" are running? Commodore 64's?
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CD5A6729-7FA1-4591-9E5F-E19267D08356@microsoft.com...
>>> All of you download 64-bit windows XP and see the speed of 64-bit and
>>> performance of 64-bite use it for one day and come back here wote the
>>> good
>>> and bad things about windows XP 64-bit ok and you will see the power of
>>> a
>>> real OS and a Normal OS 32-bit system, The future of all OS is 64-bit
>>> and
>>> look at the pass OS 32-bit
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

yea what about 128-bit computing and new Processor that are going out you
MVPs no info about this yet, I no about commodore 64 i us one in my life time
so it was cool but i am happy that new computers are more better then old
commodore was

"Gary Mount" wrote:

> I think that it would be more important to improve Windows for the future
> many multi core cpu's that will be coming out. Also hybrid cpu's that
> include gpu cores or other types of cores besides general purpose cpu cores.
> Also what about 128 bit? Wouldn't there be benefits to have 128 bit
> functionality inside of a cpu? I don't mean about the amount of memory that
> can be accessed with 128 bit addressing, but about math type computing.
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:F98E63A1-B65D-4E24-8965-3E5AE0EA8167@microsoft.com...
> > Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS has
> > not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
> > Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
> > machines out there now.
> >
> > Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> > supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
> > 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
> > third-party software folks who need to increase their support for 64-bit,
> > not MS.
> >
> > "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> >> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit
> >> i am
> >> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> >> start
> >> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> >> software
> >> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
> >> do
> >> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows
> >> we
> >> can not wait
> >
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I can see you with a Commodore 64. I used to sell them.

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C387D19-C0B8-465E-9120-F01E208195E8@microsoft.com...
> yea what about 128-bit computing and new Processor that are going out you
> MVPs no info about this yet, I no about commodore 64 i us one in my life
> time
> so it was cool but i am happy that new computers are more better then old
> commodore was
>
> "Gary Mount" wrote:
>
>> I think that it would be more important to improve Windows for the future
>> many multi core cpu's that will be coming out. Also hybrid cpu's that
>> include gpu cores or other types of cores besides general purpose cpu
>> cores.
>> Also what about 128 bit? Wouldn't there be benefits to have 128 bit
>> functionality inside of a cpu? I don't mean about the amount of memory
>> that
>> can be accessed with 128 bit addressing, but about math type computing.
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:F98E63A1-B65D-4E24-8965-3E5AE0EA8167@microsoft.com...
>> > Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
>> > has
>> > not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
>> > Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
>> > machines out there now.
>> >
>> > Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
>> > supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
>> > 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
>> > third-party software folks who need to increase their support for
>> > 64-bit,
>> > not MS.
>> >
>> > "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> >> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> >> 32-bit
>> >> i am
>> >> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>> >> and
>> >> start
>> >> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> >> software
>> >> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>> >> to
>> >> do
>> >> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> >> windows
>> >> we
>> >> can not wait
>> >
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit
Processor is it possible

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. You
> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation of
> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective choice
> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>
> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to
> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also interesting
> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits
> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? (That
> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given stack,
> register, or memory location?)
>
> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>
> Tom Ferguson
>
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not 32-bit i
> > am
> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> > start
> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> > software
> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to do
> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit windows
> > we
> > can not wait
>
>
 
Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I was on the MSX bandwagon.
MSX standed for "Microsoft Extended"
A wild experiment between MS and the japanese industry that produced what I
consider the best 8 bit computers of their age.
They even had graphic acceleration before the PC did.
Sadly the marked decided otherwise.
:(
Carlos

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> I can see you with a Commodore 64. I used to sell them.
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0C387D19-C0B8-465E-9120-F01E208195E8@microsoft.com...
> > yea what about 128-bit computing and new Processor that are going out you
> > MVPs no info about this yet, I no about commodore 64 i us one in my life
> > time
> > so it was cool but i am happy that new computers are more better then old
> > commodore was
> >
> > "Gary Mount" wrote:
> >
> >> I think that it would be more important to improve Windows for the future
> >> many multi core cpu's that will be coming out. Also hybrid cpu's that
> >> include gpu cores or other types of cores besides general purpose cpu
> >> cores.
> >> Also what about 128 bit? Wouldn't there be benefits to have 128 bit
> >> functionality inside of a cpu? I don't mean about the amount of memory
> >> that
> >> can be accessed with 128 bit addressing, but about math type computing.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F98E63A1-B65D-4E24-8965-3E5AE0EA8167@microsoft.com...
> >> > Windows Server 2008 will be the last server with a 32-bit version. MS
> >> > has
> >> > not decided if Vista will be the last client with a 32-bit version.
> >> > Probably not, though, considering the hundreds of millions of 32-bit
> >> > machines out there now.
> >> >
> >> > Why does MS need to stop making 32-bit? What's wrong with it? MS is
> >> > supporting 64-bit sufficiently that they don't need to stop supporting
> >> > 32-bit in 64-bit's favor. It is not either/or. Anyway, it is the
> >> > third-party software folks who need to increase their support for
> >> > 64-bit,
> >> > not MS.
> >> >
> >> > "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
> >> >> 32-bit
> >> >> i am
> >> >> waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
> >> >> and
> >> >> start
> >> >> on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> >> >> software
> >> >> to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
> >> >> to
> >> >> do
> >> >> this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
> >> >> windows
> >> >> we
> >> >> can not wait
> >> >
>
 

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