When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

[Jud Hendrix]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:54:00 -0800, Carlos
<Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I was on the MSX bandwagon.
>MSX standed for "Microsoft Extended"
>A wild experiment between MS and the japanese industry that produced what I
>consider the best 8 bit computers of their age.

I loved my BBC model B. It was so modern, you could add a 360kB (later
720kB) floppy drive ) Decent keyboard and all. And I used to be able to
program it with 6502-assembler, and do home-automation with it. Ahhh the
fun :-D

jud

 

[Tom Ferguson]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

To answer such a question fully, you might want to have a look at the topic
of emulation-writing code that lets the code written for one set of hardware
run on another.

The short answer is that it is possible but not simple. In effect, you could
set up a system that would install on either a 32 or 64 bit system. It would
be possible to distribute a 64 bit system only and install an emulator
package so the 32 bit processor would run the emulator which the OS would
use as if, together they were a physical 64 bit processor. Performance would
suffer somewhat. In the interests of optimizing the system for best
performance, MS (and various distributions of Linux) have chosen to
distribute specific systems for each on separate media or by separate
download packages.

You might be interested in looking into the MS WOW system found in various
MS OSs.

Tom Ferguson


"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit
> Processor is it possible
>
> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>
>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. You
>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation
>> of
>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>> choice
>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>
>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to
>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>> interesting
>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits
>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>> (That
>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>> stack,
>> register, or memory location?)
>>
>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>
>> Tom Ferguson
>>
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> > 32-bit i
>> > am
>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
>> > start
>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> > software
>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
>> > do
>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> > windows
>> > we
>> > can not wait
>>
>>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag set
in order to create a 64-bit system.

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit
> Processor is it possible
>
> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>
>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. You
>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation
>> of
>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>> choice
>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>
>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to
>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>> interesting
>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits
>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>> (That
>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>> stack,
>> register, or memory location?)
>>
>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>
>> Tom Ferguson
>>
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> > 32-bit i
>> > am
>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
>> > start
>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> > software
>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
>> > do
>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> > windows
>> > we
>> > can not wait
>>
>>

 

[Greg Lamonte]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> shadow,
> Colin is, among others, one of the most respected guys in this NG.
> He is very knowledgeable and deserves your respect.
> Carlos

Fine, homes, ask him to pull his pants down and I'll kiss his ass. Ya want
yours kissed, too?

 

[Greg Lamonte]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message

>I can see you with a Commodore 64. I used to sell them.

....And now you are peddling Windows. What an upgrade, keep this up and
you'll become real respected one day

 

[Greg Lamonte]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows


"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> And, apparently you don't 'know' how to spell correctly!
>
>
> shadow wrote:
>> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete
>> with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for
>> being a MVP you don't no your windows that well

Soore he spills currectly. I knew pracisly whet he sez. If the dude can't
spoil it out for yourself, meybe it is your nowledge who can't spill
corrictly?

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Awesume, Dood!

"Greg Lamonte" <lagre345@aul.com> wrote in message
news:476984d0$0$8800$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
>> And, apparently you don't 'know' how to spell correctly!
>>
>>
>> shadow wrote:
>>> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is
>>> Incomplete with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows
>>> kid for being a MVP you don't no your windows that well
>
> Soore he spills currectly. I knew pracisly whet he sez. If the dude can't
> spoil it out for yourself, meybe it is your nowledge who can't spill
> corrictly?
>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I haven't sold computers since 1991.

"Greg Lamonte" <lagre345@aul.com> wrote in message
news:47698395$0$8853$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>
>>I can see you with a Commodore 64. I used to sell them.
>
> ...And now you are peddling Windows. What an upgrade, keep this up and
> you'll become real respected one day
>

 

[Tom Ferguson]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
questions.

Tom Ferguson

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag set
> in order to create a 64-bit system.
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit
>> Processor is it possible
>>
>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>>
>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
>>> You
>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation
>>> of
>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>>> choice
>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>>
>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to
>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>>> interesting
>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits
>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>>> (That
>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>>> stack,
>>> register, or memory location?)
>>>
>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>>
>>> Tom Ferguson
>>>
>>>
>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>>> > 32-bit i
>>> > am
>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>>> > and
>>> > start
>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>>> > software
>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>>> > to do
>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>>> > windows
>>> > we
>>> > can not wait
>>>
>>>
>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read.

"Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
> questions.
>
> Tom Ferguson
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag
>> set in order to create a 64-bit system.
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit
>>> Processor is it possible
>>>
>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
>>>> You
>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation
>>>> of
>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>>>> choice
>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>>>
>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
>>>> to
>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>>>> interesting
>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
>>>> bits
>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>>>> (That
>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>>>> stack,
>>>> register, or memory location?)
>>>>
>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>>>
>>>> Tom Ferguson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>>>> > 32-bit i
>>>> > am
>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>>>> > and
>>>> > start
>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>>>> > software
>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>>>> > to do
>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>>>> > windows
>>>> > we
>>>> > can not wait
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

 

[Tom Ferguson]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Ditto. And possibly something different still was being asked. We await
developments. <g>

Tom Ferguson

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com...
> No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read.
>
> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
>> questions.
>>
>> Tom Ferguson
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
>>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag
>>> set in order to create a 64-bit system.
>>>
>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
>>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
>>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a
>>>> 64-bit
>>>> Processor is it possible
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
>>>>> You
>>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same
>>>>> generation of
>>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>>>>> choice
>>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
>>>>> to
>>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>>>>> interesting
>>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
>>>>> bits
>>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>>>>> (That
>>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>>>>> stack,
>>>>> register, or memory location?)
>>>>>
>>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Ferguson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>>>>> > 32-bit i
>>>>> > am
>>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > start
>>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>>>>> > software
>>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>>>>> > to do
>>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>>>>> > windows
>>>>> > we
>>>>> > can not wait
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

 

[shadow]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

so it is possible then this so cool MS better hard at work trying to do this
with windows 7 then and stop making it for one type of processor, so MVP what
do you no about windows 7

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> To answer such a question fully, you might want to have a look at the topic
> of emulation-writing code that lets the code written for one set of hardware
> run on another.
>
> The short answer is that it is possible but not simple. In effect, you could
> set up a system that would install on either a 32 or 64 bit system. It would
> be possible to distribute a 64 bit system only and install an emulator
> package so the 32 bit processor would run the emulator which the OS would
> use as if, together they were a physical 64 bit processor. Performance would
> suffer somewhat. In the interests of optimizing the system for best
> performance, MS (and various distributions of Linux) have chosen to
> distribute specific systems for each on separate media or by separate
> download packages.
>
> You might be interested in looking into the MS WOW system found in various
> MS OSs.
>
> Tom Ferguson
>
>
> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
> > Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
> > 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit
> > Processor is it possible
> >
> > "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
> >
> >> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. You
> >> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation
> >> of
> >> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
> >> choice
> >> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
> >> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
> >>
> >> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to
> >> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
> >> interesting
> >> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits
> >> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
> >> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
> >> (That
> >> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
> >> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
> >> stack,
> >> register, or memory location?)
> >>
> >> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
> >>
> >> Tom Ferguson
> >>
> >>
> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
> >> > 32-bit i
> >> > am
> >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and
> >> > start
> >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> >> > software
> >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to
> >> > do
> >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
> >> > windows
> >> > we
> >> > can not wait
> >>
> >>
>
>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

It still in the planning stages. No beta bits for a while yet. MS is
focused on getting Windows Server 2008 out the door in February.

"shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E415246E-DD7F-4170-BF69-9411FBDFC3D2@microsoft.com...
> so it is possible then this so cool MS better hard at work trying to do
> this
> with windows 7 then and stop making it for one type of processor, so MVP
> what
> do you no about windows 7
>
> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>
>> To answer such a question fully, you might want to have a look at the
>> topic
>> of emulation-writing code that lets the code written for one set of
>> hardware
>> run on another.
>>
>> The short answer is that it is possible but not simple. In effect, you
>> could
>> set up a system that would install on either a 32 or 64 bit system. It
>> would
>> be possible to distribute a 64 bit system only and install an emulator
>> package so the 32 bit processor would run the emulator which the OS would
>> use as if, together they were a physical 64 bit processor. Performance
>> would
>> suffer somewhat. In the interests of optimizing the system for best
>> performance, MS (and various distributions of Linux) have chosen to
>> distribute specific systems for each on separate media or by separate
>> download packages.
>>
>> You might be interested in looking into the MS WOW system found in
>> various
>> MS OSs.
>>
>> Tom Ferguson
>>
>>
>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
>> > Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
>> > 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a
>> > 64-bit
>> > Processor is it possible
>> >
>> > "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
>> >> You
>> >> might want to have a look at the difference between the same
>> >> generation
>> >> of
>> >> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>> >> choice
>> >> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>> >> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>> >>
>> >> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
>> >> to
>> >> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>> >> interesting
>> >> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
>> >> bits
>> >> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>> >> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>> >> (That
>> >> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>> >> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>> >> stack,
>> >> register, or memory location?)
>> >>
>> >> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>> >>
>> >> Tom Ferguson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>> >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>> >> > 32-bit i
>> >> > am
>> >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>> >> > and
>> >> > start
>> >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>> >> > software
>> >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>> >> > windows
>> >> > we
>> >> > can not wait
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

 

[roman modic]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Hello!

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message news:185E0ABA-7E12-48FF-A897-0A7E4F894788@microsoft.com...
> Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 box.



http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archi...te-2007-why-it-isn-t-there-in-64-bit-x64.aspx

Send to OneNote 2007 print driver is currently not available on any of the 64-bit OSes

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927383/en-us


Cheers, Roman

 

[Jane C]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

That's strange - the Send to OneNote 2007 works just great here on Ultimate
x64. I've used it to send webpages to OneNote.

--
Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP Windows Shell/User

"roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:egiZBtpQIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:185E0ABA-7E12-48FF-A897-0A7E4F894788@microsoft.com...
>> Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just
>> fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 box.
>
>
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archi...te-2007-why-it-isn-t-there-in-64-bit-x64.aspx
>

> Send to OneNote 2007 print driver is currently not available on any of the
> 64-bit OSes
>

>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927383/en-us
>
>
> Cheers, Roman
>
>

 

[shadow]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

so MVP is there news about developer making windows 64-bit backwared with
32-bit windows on windows 7 or is it is it going to be like windows vista we
have to wait for a service pack to see

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> Ditto. And possibly something different still was being asked. We await
> developments. <g>
>
> Tom Ferguson
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com...
> > No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read.
> >
> > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
> >> questions.
> >>
> >> Tom Ferguson
> >>
> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
> >>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag
> >>> set in order to create a 64-bit system.
> >>>
> >>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
> >>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a
> >>>> 64-bit
> >>>> Processor is it possible
> >>>>
> >>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
> >>>>> You
> >>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same
> >>>>> generation of
> >>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
> >>>>> choice
> >>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
> >>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
> >>>>> interesting
> >>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
> >>>>> bits
> >>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
> >>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
> >>>>> (That
> >>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
> >>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
> >>>>> stack,
> >>>>> register, or memory location?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom Ferguson
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
> >>>>> > 32-bit i
> >>>>> > am
> >>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
> >>>>> > and
> >>>>> > start
> >>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> >>>>> > software
> >>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
> >>>>> > to do
> >>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
> >>>>> > windows
> >>>>> > we
> >>>>> > can not wait
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

 

[Dennis Pack]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Colin:
I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't afford a
Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great day.

--
Dennis Pack
XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
Office Professional Plus 2007
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com...
> No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read.
>
> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
>> questions.
>>
>> Tom Ferguson
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
>>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag
>>> set in order to create a 64-bit system.
>>>
>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
>>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable
>>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a
>>>> 64-bit
>>>> Processor is it possible
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
>>>>> You
>>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same
>>>>> generation of
>>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>>>>> choice
>>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
>>>>> to
>>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>>>>> interesting
>>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
>>>>> bits
>>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>>>>> (That
>>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>>>>> stack,
>>>>> register, or memory location?)
>>>>>
>>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Ferguson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>>>>> > 32-bit i
>>>>> > am
>>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > start
>>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>>>>> > software
>>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going
>>>>> > to do
>>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>>>>> > windows
>>>>> > we
>>>>> > can not wait
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

Hi!

"roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:egiZBtpQIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:185E0ABA-7E12-48FF-A897-0A7E4F894788@microsoft.com...
>> Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just
>> fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 box.
>
>
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archi...te-2007-why-it-isn-t-there-in-64-bit-x64.aspx
>

> Send to OneNote 2007 print driver is currently not available on any of the
> 64-bit OSes
>

>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927383/en-us
>
>
> Cheers, Roman
>
>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair.

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com...
> Colin:
> I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't afford a
> Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great day.
>
> --
> Dennis Pack
> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
> Office Professional Plus 2007
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com...
>> No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read.
>>
>> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> Tom Ferguson
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
>>>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag
>>>> set in order to create a 64-bit system.
>>>>
>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can
>>>>> Enable
>>>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a
>>>>> 64-bit
>>>>> Processor is it possible
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same
>>>>>> generation of
>>>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
>>>>>> choice
>>>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
>>>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
>>>>>> bits
>>>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
>>>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
>>>>>> (That
>>>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
>>>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
>>>>>> stack,
>>>>>> register, or memory location?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Ferguson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
>>>>>> > 32-bit i
>>>>>> > am
>>>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > start
>>>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
>>>>>> > software
>>>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft
>>>>>> > going to do
>>>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
>>>>>> > windows
>>>>>> > we
>>>>>> > can not wait
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

 

[Carlos]

Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows

I'm kinda feeling nostalgic down here (sob!).
Are we getting THAT old?

Carlos

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair.
>
> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com...
> > Colin:
> > I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't afford a
> > Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great day.
> >
> > --
> > Dennis Pack
> > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
> > Office Professional Plus 2007
> > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com...
> >> No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read.
> >>
> >> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different
> >>> questions.
> >>>
> >>> Tom Ferguson
> >>>
> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com...
> >>>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag
> >>>> set in order to create a 64-bit system.
> >>>>
> >>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can
> >>>>> Enable
> >>>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a
> >>>>> 64-bit
> >>>>> Processor is it possible
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future.
> >>>>>> You
> >>>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same
> >>>>>> generation of
> >>>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective
> >>>>>> choice
> >>>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the
> >>>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also
> >>>>>> interesting
> >>>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32
> >>>>>> bits
> >>>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code
> >>>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y?
> >>>>>> (That
> >>>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack,
> >>>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given
> >>>>>> stack,
> >>>>>> register, or memory location?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom Ferguson
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not
> >>>>>> > 32-bit i
> >>>>>> > am
> >>>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit
> >>>>>> > and
> >>>>>> > start
> >>>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new
> >>>>>> > software
> >>>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft
> >>>>>> > going to do
> >>>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit
> >>>>>> > windows
> >>>>>> > we
> >>>>>> > can not wait
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>