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[buffalo rider]

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and, in sight of the whole world,
have had charge of these books which foretell their Messiah, assuring all
nations that He should come and in the way foretold in the books, which they
held open to the whole world. Yet this people, deceived by the poor and
ignominious advent of the Messiah, have been His most cruel enemies. So that
they, the people least open to suspicion in the world of favouring us, the
most strict and most zealous that can be named for their law and their
prophets, have kept the books incorrupt. Hence those who have rejected and
crucified Jesus Christ, who has been to them an offence, are those who have
charge of the books which testify of Him, and state that He will be an
offence and rejected. Therefore they have shown it was He by rejecting Him,
and He has been alike proved both by the righteous Jews who received Him and
by the unrighteous who rejected Him, both facts having been foretold.

Wherefore the prophecies have a hidden and spiritual meaning to which this
people were hostile, under the carnal meaning which they loved. If the
spiritual meaning had been revealed, they would not have loved it, and,
unable to bear it, they would not have been zealous of the preservation of
their books and their ceremonies; and if they had loved these spiritual
promises, and had preserved them incorrupt till the time of the Messiah,
their testimony would have had no force, because they had been his friends.

Therefore it was well that the spiritual meaning should be concealed; but,
on the other hand, if this meaning had been so hidden as not to appear at
all, it could not have served as a proof of the Messiah. What then was done?
In a crowd of passages it has been hidden under the temporal meaning, and in
a few been clearly revealed; besides that, the time and the state of the
world have been so clearly foretold that it is clea

 

[N. Miller]

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people of this kind; so that when we are
well instructed, we see in this rather evidence of the care of God than of
His forgetfulness in regard to us.

890. Tertullian: Nunquam Ecclesia reformabitur.222

891. Heretics, who take advantage of the doctrine of the Jesuits, must be
made to know that it is not that of the Church, and that our divisions do
not separate us from the altar.

892. If in differing we condemned, you would be right. Uniformity without
diversity is useless to others; diversity without uniformity is ruinous for
us. The one is harmful outwardly; the other inwardly.

893. By showing the truth, we cause it to be believed; but by showing the
injustice of ministers, we do not correct it. Our mind is assured by a proof
of falsehood; our purse is not made secure by proof of injustice.

894. Those who love the Church lament to see the corruption of morals; but
laws at least exist. But these corrupt the laws. The model is damaged.

895. Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction.

896. It is in vain that the Church has established these words, anathemas,
heresies, etc. They are used against her.

897. The servant knoweth not what his lord doeth, for the master tells him
only the act and not the intention. And this is why he often obeys
slavishly, and defeats the intention. But Jesus Christ has told us the
object. And you defeat that object.

898. They cannot have perpetuity, and they seek universality; and therefore
they make the whole Church corrupt, that they may be saints.

899. Against those who misuse passages of Scripture, and who pride
themselves in finding one which seems to favour their error.--The chapter
for Vespers, Passion Sunday, the prayer for the k

 

[buffalo rider]

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not state all its effects.

Every one knows that the sight of cats or rats, the crushing of a coal,
etc., may unhinge the reason. The tone of voice affects the wisest, and
changes the force of a discourse or a poem.

Love or hate alters the aspect of justice. How much greater confidence has
an advocate, retained with a large fee, in the justice of his cause! How
much better does his bold manner make his case appear to the judges,
deceived as they are by appearances! How ludicrous is reason, blown with a
breath in every direction!

I should have to enumerate almost every action of men who scarce waver save
under her assaults. For reason has been obliged to yield, and the wisest
reason takes as her own principles those which the imagination of man has
everywhere rashly introduced. He who would follow reason only would be
deemed foolish by the generality of men. We must judge by the opinion of the
majority of mankind. Because it has pleased them, we must work all day for
pleasures seen to be imaginary; and, after sleep has refreshed our tired
reason, we must forthwith start up and rush after phantoms, and suffer the
impressions of this mistress of the world. This is one of the sources of
error, but it is not the only one.

Our magistrates have known well this mystery. T

 

[N. Miller]

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this future land as though he had been its
ruler, gave a portion to Joseph more than to the others. "I give you," said
he, "one part more than to your brothers." And blessing his two children,
Ephraim and Manasseh, whom Joseph had presented to him, the elder, Manasseh,
on his right, and the young Ephraim on his left, he put his arms crosswise,
and placing his right hand on the head of Ephraim, and his left on Manasseh,
he blessed them in this manner. And, upon Joseph's representing to him that
he was preferring the younger, he replied to him with admirable resolution:
"I know it well, my son; but Ephraim will increase more than Manasseh." This
has been indeed so true in the result that, being alone almost as fruitful
as the two entire lines which composed a whole kingdom, they have been
usually called by the name of Ephraim alone.

This same Joseph, when dying, bade his children carry his bones with them
when they should go into that land to which they only came two hundred years
afterwards.

Moses, who wrote all these things so long before they happened, himself
assigned to each family portions of that land before they ente

 

[philo]

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save, to send down bread from heaven, etc.; so that the people
hostile to Him are the type and the representation of the very Messiah whom
they know not, etc.

He has, then, taught us at last that all these things were only types and
what is "true freedom," a "true Israelite," "true circumcision," "true bread
from heaven," etc.

In these promises each one finds what he has most at heart, temporal
benefits or spiritual, God or the creatures; but with this difference, that
those who therein seek the creatures find them, but with many
contradictions, with a prohibition against loving them, with the command to
worship God only, and to love Him only, which is the same thing, and,
finally, that the Messiah came not for them; whereas those who therein seek
God find Him, without any contradiction, with the command to love Him only,
and that the Messiah came in the time foretold, to give them the blessings
which they ask.

Thus the Jews had miracles and prophecies, which they saw fulfilled, and the
teaching of their law was to worship and lo

 

[BMillikan]

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sought....

51. Sceptic, for obstinate.

52. No one calls another a Cartesian but he who is one himself, a pedant but
a pedant, a provincial but a provincial; and I would wager it was the
printer who put it on the title of Letters to a Provincial.

53. A carriage upset or overturned, according to the meaning. To spread
abroad or upset, according to the meaning. (The argument by force of M. le
Maitre over the friar.)

54. Miscellaneous.--A form of speech, "I should have liked to apply myself
to that."

55. The aperitive virtue of a key, the attractive virtue of a hook.

56. To guess: "The part that I take in your trouble." The Cardinal did not
want to be guessed.

"My mind is disquieted." I am disquieted is better.

57. I always feel uncomfortable under such compliments as these: "I have
given you a great deal of trouble," "I am afraid I am boring you," "I fear
this is too long." We either carry our audience with us, or irritate them.

58. You are ungraceful: "Excuse me, pray." Without that excuse I would not
have known there was anything amiss. "With reverence be it spoken..." The
only thing bad is their excuse.

59. "To extinguish the torch of sedition"; too luxuriant. "The restlessness
of his genius"; two superfluous gra

 

[thanatoid]

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us see. Since you must choose, let us see which
interests you least. You have two things to lose, the true and the good; and
two things to stake, your reason and your will, your knowledge and your
happiness; and your nature has two things to shun, error and misery. Your
reason is no more shocked in choosing one rather than the other, since you
must of necessity choose. This is one point settled. But your happiness? Let
us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate
these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. "That is very fine. Yes, I must
wager; but I may perhaps wager too much." Let us see. Since there is an
equal risk of gain and of loss, if you had only to gain two lives, instead
of one, you might still wager. But if there were three lives to gain, you
would have to play (since you are under the necessity of playing), and you
would be imprudent, when you are forced to play, not to chance your life to
gain three at a game where there is an equal risk of loss and gain. But
there is an eternity of life and happiness. And this being so, if there were
an infinity of chances, of which one only would be for you, you would still
be right in wagering one to win two, and you would act stupidly, being
obliged to play, by refusing to stake one life against three at a game in
which out of an infinity of chances there is one for you, if there were an
infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain. But there is here an infinity
of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite
num

 

[N. Miller]

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God defies other religions to produce such signs: Isaiah 43:9; 44:8.

593. History of China.--I believe only the histories, whose witnesses got
themselves killed.

Which is the more credible of the two, Moses or China?

It is not a question of seeing this summarily. I tell you there is in it
something to blind, and something to enlighten.

By this one word I destroy all your reasoning. "But China obscures," say
you; and I answer, "China obscures, but there is clearness to be found; seek
it."

Thus all that you say makes for one of the views and not at all against the
other.

So this serves, and does no harm.

We must, then, see this in detail; we must put the papers on the table.

594. Against the history of China.--The historians of Mexico, the five suns,
of which the last is only eight hundred years old.

The difference between a book accepted by a nation and one which makes a
nation.

595. Mahomet was without authority. His reasons, then, should have been very
strong, having only their own force. What does he say, then, that we must
believe him?

596. The Psalms are chanted throughout the whole world.

Who renders testimony to Mahomet? Himself. Jesus Christ desires His own
testimony to be as nothing.

The quality of witnesses necessitates their existence always and everywhere;
and he, miserable creature, is alone.

597. Against Mahomet.--The Koran is not more of Mahomet than the Gospel is
of Saint Matthew, for it is cited by many authors from age to age.

 

[thanatoid]

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in distress, expostulating with him, why he had not told her more of her
sinfulness, and earnestly inquiring of him what she should do. She
seemed that day to feel in herself an enmity against the Bible, which
greatly affrighted her. Her sense of her own exceeding sinfulness
continued increasing from Thursday till Monday and she gave this account
of it: That it had been her opinion, till now, she was not guilty of
Adam's sin, nor any way concerned in it, because she was not active in
it; but that now she saw she was guilty of that sin, and all over
defiled by it; and the sin which she brought into the world with her,
was alone sufficient to condemn her.

On the Sabbath-day she was so ill, that her friends thought it best that
she should not go to public worship, of which she seemed very desirous:
but when she went to bed on the Sabbath night, she took up a resolution,
that she would the next morning go to the minister, hoping to find some
relief there. As she awakened on Monday morning, a little before day,
she wondered within herself at the easiness and calmness she felt in her
mind, which was of that kind she never felt before. As she thought of
this, such words as these were in her mind: The words of the Lord are
pure words, health to the soul, and marrow to the bones: and then these
words, The blood of Christ cleanses from all sin; which were accompanied
with a lively sense of the excellency of Christ, and His sufficiency to
satisfy for the sins of the whole world. She then thought of that
expression, It is a pleasant thing for the eyes to behold the sun; which
words then seemed to her to be very applicable to J

 

[thanatoid]

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pure sacrifices
established. Malachi 1:11.

That the order of Aaron's priesthood should be rejected, and that of
Melchizedek introduced by the Messiah. Ps. Dixit Dominus.

That this priesthood should be eternal. Ibid.

That Jerusalem should be rejected, and Rome admitted, Ibid.

That the name of the Jews should be rejected, and a new name given. Isaiah
65:15.

That this last name should be more excellent than that of the Jews, and
eternal. Isaiah 56:5.

That the Jews should be without prophets (Amos), without a king, without
princes, without sacrifice, without an idol.

That the Jews should, nevertheless, always remain a people. Jer. 31:36

611. Republic.--The Christian republic--and even the Jewish--has only had
God for ruler, as Philo the Jew notices, On Monarchy.

When they fought, it was for God only; their chief hope was in God only;
they considered their towns as belonging to God only, and kept them for God.
I Chron. 19:13.

612. Gen. 17:7. Statuam pactum meum inter me et te foedere sempiterno... us
sim Deus tuus...[108]

Et tu ergo custodies pactum meum.109

Perpetuity.--That religion has always existed on earth which consists in
believing that man has fallen from a state of glory and of communion with
God into a state of sorrow, penitence, and estrangement from God, but that
after this life we shall be restored by a Messiah who should have come. All
things have passed away, and this has endured, for which all things are.

Men have in the first age of the world been carried away into every kind of
debauchery, and yet there were saints, as Enoch, Lamech, and ot

 

[thanatoid]

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one; and
I believe that many such facts have not been noticed till now, which is
evidence of the natural disinterestedness with which the thing has been
done.

799. An artisan who speaks of wealth, a lawyer who speaks of war, of
royalty, etc.; but the rich man rightly speaks of wealth, a king speaks
indifferently of a great gift he has just made, and God rightly speaks of
God.

800. Who has taught the evangelists the qualities of a perfectly heroic
soul, that they paint it so perfectly in Jesus Christ? Why do they make Him
weak in His agony? Do they not know how to paint a resolute death? Yes, for
the same Saint Luke paints the death of Saint Stephen as braver than that of
Jesus Christ.

They make Him, therefore, capable of fear, before the necessity of dying has
come, and then altogether brave.

But when they make Him so troubled, it is when He afflicts Himself; and when
men afflict Him, He is altogether strong.

801. Proof of Jesus Christ.--The supposition that the apostles were
impostors is very absurd. Let us think it out. Let us imagine those twelve
men, assembled after the death of Jesus Christ, plotting to say that He was
risen. By this they attack all the powers. The heart of man is strangely
inclined to fickleness, to change, to promises, to gain. However little any
of them might have been led astray by all these attractions, nay more, by
the fear of prisons, tortures, and death, they were lost. Let us follow up
this thought.

802. The apostles were either deceived or deceivers. Either supposition has
difficulties; for it is not possible to mistake a man raised from the
dead...

While Jesus Christ was with them, He could sustain them. But, after that, if
He did not appear to them, who inspired them to act?

SECTION XIII: THE MIRACLES

803. The beginning.--Miracles enable us to judge of doctrine, and doctrine
enables us to judge of miracles.

T

 

[Mike M]

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all this appears to us mysterious, and yet
it is material like the blow of a stone. It is true that the smallness of
the spirits which enter into the pores touches other nerves, but there are
always some nerves touched.

369. Memory is necessary for all the operations of reason.

370. Chance gives rise to thoughts, and chance removes them; no art can keep
or acquire them.

A thought has escaped me. I wanted to write it down. I write instead that it
has escaped me.

371. When I was small, I hugged my book; and because it sometimes happened
to me to... in believing I hugged it, I doubted....

372. In writing down my thought, it sometimes escapes me; but this makes me
remember my weakness, that I constantly forget. This is as instructive to me
as my forgotten thought; for I strive only to know my nothingness.

373. Scepticism.--I shall here write my thoughts without order, and not
perhaps in unintentional confusion; that is true order, which will always
indicate my object by its very disorder. I should do too much honour to my
subject, if I treated it with order, since I want to show that it is
incapable of it.

374. What astonishes me most is to see that all the world is not astonished
at its own weakness. Men act seriously, and each follows his own mode of
life, not because it is in fact good to follow since it is the custom, but
as if each man knew certainly where reason and justice are. They find
themselves continually deceived, and, by a comical humility, think it is
their own fault and not that of the art which they claim always to possess.
But it is well there are so many s

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

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Why did you include a totally irrelevant newsgroup and post religious drivel
to this technical group? Please don't do that. Most people will simply block
you in the future. I know I will if you do it again.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> on this
> occasion as before. And thus, while the present never satisfies us,
> experience dupes us and, from misfortune to misfortune, leads us to death,
> their eternal crown.
>
> What is it, then, that this desire and this inability proclaim to us, but
> that there was once in man a true happiness of which there now remain to
> him
> only the mark and empty trace, which he in vain tries to fill from all his
> surroundings, seeking from things absent the help he does not obtain in
> things present? But these are all inadequate, because the infinite abyss
> can
> only be filled by an infinite and immutable object, that is to say, only
> by
> God Himself. He only is our true good, and since we have forsaken him, it
> is
> a strange thing that there is nothing in nature which has not been
> serviceable in taking His place; the stars, the heavens, earth, the
> elements, plants, cabbages, leeks, animals, insects, calves, serpents,
> fever, pestilence, war, famine, vices, adultery, incest. And since man has
> lost the true good, everything can appear equally good to him, even his
> own
> destruction, though so opposed to God, to reason, and to the whole course
> of
> nature.
>
> Some seek good in authority, others in scientific research, others in
> pleasure. Others, who are in fact nearer the truth, have considered it
> necessary that the universal good, which all men desire, should not
> consist
> in any of the particular things which can only be possessed by one man,
> and
> which, when shared, afflict their possessors more by the want of the part
> he
> has not than they please him by the possession of what he has. They have
> learned that the true good should be such as all can possess at once,
> without diminution and without envy, and which no one can lose against his
> will. And their reason is that this desire, being natural to
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

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My apologies, I see what's going on, now. Why do people think that if they
SHOVE religion in your face that you'll magically convert?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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> Why did you include a totally irrelevant newsgroup and post religious
> drivel to this technical group? Please don't do that. Most people will
> simply block you in the future. I know I will if you do it again.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:897eu6e0fd9anaafpe4853bo144oeeo50f@4ax.com...
>> on this
>> occasion as before. And thus, while the present never satisfies us,
>> experience dupes us and, from misfortune to misfortune, leads us to
>> death,
>> their eternal crown.
>>
>> What is it, then, that this desire and this inability proclaim to us, but
>> that there was once in man a true happiness of which there now remain to
>> him
>> only the mark and empty trace, which he in vain tries to fill from all
>> his
>> surroundings, seeking from things absent the help he does not obtain in
>> things present? But these are all inadequate, because the infinite abyss
>> can
>> only be filled by an infinite and immutable object, that is to say, only
>> by
>> God Himself. He only is our true good, and since we have forsaken him, it
>> is
>> a strange thing that there is nothing in nature which has not been
>> serviceable in taking His place; the stars, the heavens, earth, the
>> elements, plants, cabbages, leeks, animals, insects, calves, serpents,
>> fever, pestilence, war, famine, vices, adultery, incest. And since man
>> has
>> lost the true good, everything can appear equally good to him, even his
>> own
>> destruction, though so opposed to God, to reason, and to the whole course
>> of
>> nature.
>>
>> Some seek good in authority, others in scientific research, others in
>> pleasure. Others, who are in fact nearer the truth, have considered it
>> necessary that the universal good, which all men desire, should not
>> consist
>> in any of the particular things which can only be possessed by one man,
>> and
>> which, when shared, afflict their possessors more by the want of the part
>> he
>> has not than they please him by the possession of what he has. They have
>> learned that the true good should be such as all can possess at once,
>> without diminution and without envy, and which no one can lose against
>> his
>> will. And their reason is that this desire, being natural to
>>
>>
>

 

[Heather]

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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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> My apologies, I see what's going on, now. Why do people think that if
> they SHOVE religion in your face that you'll magically convert?

Because they have an IQ of 50 perhaps?? (G)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

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Hmmm... The math works...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e3Vf47HVIHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My apologies, I see what's going on, now. Why do people think that if
>> they SHOVE religion in your face that you'll magically convert?
>
> Because they have an IQ of 50 perhaps?? (G)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>
>
>

 

[N. Miller]

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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:43:53 -0500, Heather wrote:

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e3Vf47HVIHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> My apologies, I see what's going on, now. Why do people think that if
>> they SHOVE religion in your face that you'll magically convert?

> Because they have an IQ of 50 perhaps?? (G)

Robots have IQs?

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

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I'm thinking that real robots might object to your use of the term.

And now, I should desist... Really....

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
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>
> Robots have IQs?
>

 

[John John]

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N. Miller wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:43:53 -0500, Heather wrote:
>
>
>>"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>news:e3Vf47HVIHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
>>>My apologies, I see what's going on, now. Why do people think that if
>>>they SHOVE religion in your face that you'll magically convert?
>
>
>>Because they have an IQ of 50 perhaps?? (G)
>
>
> Robots have IQs?

Who do you think is running the bot? Religious nutcases, that's who!
Do you think that bots make up religious writings and post to Usenet
groups by themselves? Somebody is controlling the robot, someone is
instructing the program, someone wrote the contents of the message and
someone instructed the program to spoof addresses and post multiple
posts to multiple newsgroups! Who do you think did that? Martians?
Religious crackpots, zealots, that's who instructed the bots to do the
posting!

John

 

[AlmostBob]

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brought to forsake and
dread their former vices and extravagances. When once the Spirit of God
began to be so wonderfully poured out in a general way through the town,
people had soon done with their old quarrels, backbitings, and
intermeddling with other men's matters. The tavern was soon left empty,
and persons kept very much at home; none went abroad unless on necessary
business, or on some religious account, and every day seemed in many
respects like a Sabbath-day. The other effect was, that it put them on
earnest application to the means of salvation, reading, prayer,
meditation, the ordinances of God's house, and private conference; their
cry was, What shall we do to be saved? The place of resort was now
altered, it was no longer the tavern, but the minister's house that was
thronged far more than ever the tavern had been wont to be.

There is a very great variety, as to the degree of fear and trouble that
persons are exercised with, before they attain any comfortable evidences
of pardon and acceptance with God. Some are from the beginning carried
on with abundantly more encouragement and hope than others. Some have
had ten times less trouble of mind than others, in whom yet the issue
seems to be the same. Some have had such a sense of the displeasure of
God, and