Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower now

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When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I went
and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram slots
on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am reading all
6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it seems
that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter if I am
running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty annoying
and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I could
try. Thank You
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower now

What is slower, and do you have sufficient space on your Vista drive for the
larger page and hibernate files which are assigned based on RAM.

"kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> went
> and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> slots
> on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am reading
> all
> 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it seems
> that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter if I
> am
> running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> annoying
> and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> could
> try. Thank You
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower now

How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
same it would probably run slower.

"kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> went
> and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> slots
> on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am reading
> all
> 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it seems
> that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter if I
> am
> running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> annoying
> and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> could
> try. Thank You
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

the whole system is slower....from start up to idle, opening files, going to
controll panel....I get a lot of (not responding) and then going active
again. I did try to go in and lower my page file but it doesnt seem to be
taking properly. almost seemed to help out but now it is slowing down again.
Hard drive space is ample on my raptor so that wouldnt be it. My processor
seems to be kicking up to 100% a lot though....I have a Core 2 Duo
2.2gig....dont know where to go from here other than trying for a bios
upgrade maybe?....I am just fishing in the dark right now...lol

"John Barnes" wrote:

> What is slower, and do you have sufficient space on your Vista drive for the
> larger page and hibernate files which are assigned based on RAM.
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> > went
> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> > slots
> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am reading
> > all
> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it seems
> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter if I
> > am
> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> > annoying
> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> > could
> > try. Thank You
>
>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and was
still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes and
I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get task
manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.



"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
> same it would probably run slower.
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> > went
> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> > slots
> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am reading
> > all
> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it seems
> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter if I
> > am
> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> > annoying
> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> > could
> > try. Thank You
>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Are you showing both cores in your task management? If so, is one core
hitting 100% while the other sits at a lower usage? I have had that problem
and had to manually set the affinity of some of my processes in task manager
to keep from the hanging problem. That doesn't explain the startup problem,
but might be worth looking at.

"kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:AD5297FD-B08E-43C8-9F17-736A4C07E2BB@microsoft.com...
> the whole system is slower....from start up to idle, opening files, going
> to
> controll panel....I get a lot of (not responding) and then going active
> again. I did try to go in and lower my page file but it doesnt seem to
> be
> taking properly. almost seemed to help out but now it is slowing down
> again.
> Hard drive space is ample on my raptor so that wouldnt be it. My
> processor
> seems to be kicking up to 100% a lot though....I have a Core 2 Duo
> 2.2gig....dont know where to go from here other than trying for a bios
> upgrade maybe?....I am just fishing in the dark right now...lol
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> What is slower, and do you have sufficient space on your Vista drive for
>> the
>> larger page and hibernate files which are assigned based on RAM.
>>
>> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
>> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
>> > went
>> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
>> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
>> > slots
>> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
>> > reading
>> > all
>> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
>> > seems
>> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
>> > if I
>> > am
>> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
>> > annoying
>> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
>> > could
>> > try. Thank You
>>
>>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

I do show both cores, but they are both spiking most of the time but now at
idle core 1 if at full and core 2 is about 10%. I will look further into
changing those settings though....thanks

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Are you showing both cores in your task management? If so, is one core
> hitting 100% while the other sits at a lower usage? I have had that problem
> and had to manually set the affinity of some of my processes in task manager
> to keep from the hanging problem. That doesn't explain the startup problem,
> but might be worth looking at.
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:AD5297FD-B08E-43C8-9F17-736A4C07E2BB@microsoft.com...
> > the whole system is slower....from start up to idle, opening files, going
> > to
> > controll panel....I get a lot of (not responding) and then going active
> > again. I did try to go in and lower my page file but it doesnt seem to
> > be
> > taking properly. almost seemed to help out but now it is slowing down
> > again.
> > Hard drive space is ample on my raptor so that wouldnt be it. My
> > processor
> > seems to be kicking up to 100% a lot though....I have a Core 2 Duo
> > 2.2gig....dont know where to go from here other than trying for a bios
> > upgrade maybe?....I am just fishing in the dark right now...lol
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> What is slower, and do you have sufficient space on your Vista drive for
> >> the
> >> larger page and hibernate files which are assigned based on RAM.
> >>
> >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> >> > went
> >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> >> > slots
> >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> >> > reading
> >> > all
> >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> >> > seems
> >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> >> > if I
> >> > am
> >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> >> > annoying
> >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> >> > could
> >> > try. Thank You
> >>
> >>
>
>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

With three times the RAM you really shouldn't LOWer your page file. It
should be set at 1.5 times 6, which is 9. One trick that could speed up your
page file is to set the 'Min/Max' values to the same size, to prevent the
system wanting to resize the file, which probably would take enough time to
make you worry.

Also, I probably would go for a BIOS update, if there is one!

Oh - and if you are using any CPU frequency scaling driver, I would probably
uninstall that and reinstall it after a reboot. It's a long shot, but who
knows?


Tony. . .


"kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:AD5297FD-B08E-43C8-9F17-736A4C07E2BB@microsoft.com...
> the whole system is slower....from start up to idle, opening files, going
> to
> controll panel....I get a lot of (not responding) and then going active
> again. I did try to go in and lower my page file but it doesnt seem to
> be
> taking properly. almost seemed to help out but now it is slowing down
> again.
> Hard drive space is ample on my raptor so that wouldnt be it. My
> processor
> seems to be kicking up to 100% a lot though....I have a Core 2 Duo
> 2.2gig....dont know where to go from here other than trying for a bios
> upgrade maybe?....I am just fishing in the dark right now...lol
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> What is slower, and do you have sufficient space on your Vista drive for
>> the
>> larger page and hibernate files which are assigned based on RAM.
>>
>> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
>> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
>> > went
>> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
>> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
>> > slots
>> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
>> > reading
>> > all
>> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
>> > seems
>> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
>> > if I
>> > am
>> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
>> > annoying
>> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
>> > could
>> > try. Thank You
>>
>>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

well memtest on the 2x2gigs
are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
and motherboard make n model would be needed


although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum

like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com


"kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
>I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
> ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and
> was
> still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes
> and
> I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
> much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get
> task
> manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
>> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
>> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
>> same it would probably run slower.
>>
>> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
>> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
>> > went
>> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
>> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
>> > slots
>> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
>> > reading
>> > all
>> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
>> > seems
>> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
>> > if I
>> > am
>> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
>> > annoying
>> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
>> > could
>> > try. Thank You
>>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

thanks tony...I will give it a try. I was just a little confused cause the
max range was set at 12 and I was thinking that that was a little high...lol.




"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> With three times the RAM you really shouldn't LOWer your page file. It
> should be set at 1.5 times 6, which is 9. One trick that could speed up your
> page file is to set the 'Min/Max' values to the same size, to prevent the
> system wanting to resize the file, which probably would take enough time to
> make you worry.
>
> Also, I probably would go for a BIOS update, if there is one!
>
> Oh - and if you are using any CPU frequency scaling driver, I would probably
> uninstall that and reinstall it after a reboot. It's a long shot, but who
> knows?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:AD5297FD-B08E-43C8-9F17-736A4C07E2BB@microsoft.com...
> > the whole system is slower....from start up to idle, opening files, going
> > to
> > controll panel....I get a lot of (not responding) and then going active
> > again. I did try to go in and lower my page file but it doesnt seem to
> > be
> > taking properly. almost seemed to help out but now it is slowing down
> > again.
> > Hard drive space is ample on my raptor so that wouldnt be it. My
> > processor
> > seems to be kicking up to 100% a lot though....I have a Core 2 Duo
> > 2.2gig....dont know where to go from here other than trying for a bios
> > upgrade maybe?....I am just fishing in the dark right now...lol
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> What is slower, and do you have sufficient space on your Vista drive for
> >> the
> >> larger page and hibernate files which are assigned based on RAM.
> >>
> >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> >> > went
> >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> >> > slots
> >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> >> > reading
> >> > all
> >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> >> > seems
> >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> >> > if I
> >> > am
> >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> >> > annoying
> >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> >> > could
> >> > try. Thank You
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

the 2 gig stix are the same and the 1 gig stix are the same but it happens
when even just the 2 2gig stix are in without the 1 gig stix. I will check
out those other forums if Tony's response doesnt do the trick....thanx



"Patrick" wrote:

> well memtest on the 2x2gigs
> are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
> and motherboard make n model would be needed
>
>
> although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum
>
> like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com
>
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
> >I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
> > ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and
> > was
> > still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes
> > and
> > I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
> > much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get
> > task
> > manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
> >> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
> >> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
> >> same it would probably run slower.
> >>
> >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> >> > went
> >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> >> > slots
> >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> >> > reading
> >> > all
> >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> >> > seems
> >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> >> > if I
> >> > am
> >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> >> > annoying
> >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> >> > could
> >> > try. Thank You
> >>
>
>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

oh yea... the mobo is an MSI nvidia 650i and the 2x 2gig stix are
elixer....the 1 gigs are generic.

"Patrick" wrote:

> well memtest on the 2x2gigs
> are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
> and motherboard make n model would be needed
>
>
> although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum
>
> like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com
>
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
> >I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
> > ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and
> > was
> > still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes
> > and
> > I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
> > much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get
> > task
> > manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
> >> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
> >> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
> >> same it would probably run slower.
> >>
> >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> >> > went
> >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> >> > slots
> >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> >> > reading
> >> > all
> >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> >> > seems
> >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> >> > if I
> >> > am
> >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> >> > annoying
> >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> >> > could
> >> > try. Thank You
> >>
>
>
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Hello "kungfumonkeyman":
The MSI website says your board supports "up to 8 GBs" of ram and can
use 553/667/800 Mhz memory. I wonder if your board is similar to my Intel
board?
It can support up to 8 GBs RAM of the same speed as yours, but they on to
specify that you can only use 4 GB of 800 Mhz or up to 8 GBs of 667. You
might check the manual and see if they have the same limitations. Up to 8 GB
can mean many different things sometimes.

xiowan........in tucson

"kungfumonkeyman" wrote:

> oh yea... the mobo is an MSI nvidia 650i and the 2x 2gig stix are
> elixer....the 1 gigs are generic.
>
> "Patrick" wrote:
>
> > well memtest on the 2x2gigs
> > are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
> > and motherboard make n model would be needed
> >
> >
> > although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum
> >
> > like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com
> >
> >
> > "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
> > >I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
> > > ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and
> > > was
> > > still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes
> > > and
> > > I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
> > > much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get
> > > task
> > > manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> > >
> > >> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
> > >> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
> > >> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
> > >> same it would probably run slower.
> > >>
> > >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> > >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> > >> > went
> > >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> > >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> > >> > slots
> > >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> > >> > reading
> > >> > all
> > >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> > >> > seems
> > >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> > >> > if I
> > >> > am
> > >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> > >> > annoying
> > >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> > >> > could
> > >> > try. Thank You
> > >>
> >
> >
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

also check voltage req.. for each set


"xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9E9140F3-F841-406F-BA5E-7FD5762CE2A1@microsoft.com...
> Hello "kungfumonkeyman":
> The MSI website says your board supports "up to 8 GBs" of ram and can
> use 553/667/800 Mhz memory. I wonder if your board is similar to my Intel
> board?
> It can support up to 8 GBs RAM of the same speed as yours, but they on to
> specify that you can only use 4 GB of 800 Mhz or up to 8 GBs of 667. You
> might check the manual and see if they have the same limitations. Up to 8
> GB
> can mean many different things sometimes.
>
> xiowan........in tucson
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" wrote:
>
>> oh yea... the mobo is an MSI nvidia 650i and the 2x 2gig stix are
>> elixer....the 1 gigs are generic.
>>
>> "Patrick" wrote:
>>
>> > well memtest on the 2x2gigs
>> > are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
>> > and motherboard make n model would be needed
>> >
>> >
>> > although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum
>> >
>> > like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com
>> >
>> >
>> > "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message news:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
>> > >I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m
>> > >to
>> > > ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks
>> > > and
>> > > was
>> > > still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3
>> > > minutes
>> > > and
>> > > I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me
>> > > too
>> > > much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to
>> > > get
>> > > task
>> > > manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks
>> > >> will
>> > >> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower,
>> > >> but
>> > >> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly
>> > >> the
>> > >> same it would probably run slower.
>> > >>
>> > >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> > >> in
>> > >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs
>> > >> > so I
>> > >> > went
>> > >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has
>> > >> > been
>> > >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the
>> > >> > ram
>> > >> > slots
>> > >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
>> > >> > reading
>> > >> > all
>> > >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and
>> > >> > it
>> > >> > seems
>> > >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no
>> > >> > matter
>> > >> > if I
>> > >> > am
>> > >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
>> > >> > annoying
>> > >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything
>> > >> > that I
>> > >> > could
>> > >> > try. Thank You
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

thank you for the input.

I have tried running just 4 gigs of 800 and still have the same slow speeds.
I am currently adjusting my poagefile size to 9 gigs but in the resource
meter am now showing 24 gigs. just keep getting different numbers left and
right and am thinking about just upgrading my mobo to a BFG or something
along those lines. I know one thing is for sure....I have played enough for
today and need to crash :\

"xiowan" wrote:

> Hello "kungfumonkeyman":
> The MSI website says your board supports "up to 8 GBs" of ram and can
> use 553/667/800 Mhz memory. I wonder if your board is similar to my Intel
> board?
> It can support up to 8 GBs RAM of the same speed as yours, but they on to
> specify that you can only use 4 GB of 800 Mhz or up to 8 GBs of 667. You
> might check the manual and see if they have the same limitations. Up to 8 GB
> can mean many different things sometimes.
>
> xiowan........in tucson
>
> "kungfumonkeyman" wrote:
>
> > oh yea... the mobo is an MSI nvidia 650i and the 2x 2gig stix are
> > elixer....the 1 gigs are generic.
> >
> > "Patrick" wrote:
> >
> > > well memtest on the 2x2gigs
> > > are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
> > > and motherboard make n model would be needed
> > >
> > >
> > > although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum
> > >
> > > like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message news:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
> > > >I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
> > > > ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and
> > > > was
> > > > still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes
> > > > and
> > > > I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
> > > > much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get
> > > > task
> > > > manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
> > > >> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
> > > >> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
> > > >> same it would probably run slower.
> > > >>
> > > >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > >> message news:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> > > >> > went
> > > >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> > > >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> > > >> > slots
> > > >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> > > >> > reading
> > > >> > all
> > > >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> > > >> > seems
> > > >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> > > >> > if I
> > > >> > am
> > > >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> > > >> > annoying
> > > >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> > > >> > could
> > > >> > try. Thank You
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

On Jan 13, 9:26 pm, kungfumonkeyman
<kungfumonkey...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> thank you for the input.
>
> I have tried running just 4 gigs of 800 and still have the same slow speeds.
> I am currently adjusting my poagefile size to 9 gigs but in the resource
> meter am now showing 24 gigs. just keep getting different numbers left and
> right and am thinking about just upgrading my mobo to a BFG or something
> along those lines. I know one thing is for sure....I have played enough for
> today and need to crash :\
>
> "xiowan" wrote:
> > Hello "kungfumonkeyman":
> > The MSI website says your board supports "up to 8 GBs" of ram and can
> > use 553/667/800 Mhz memory. I wonder if your board is similar to my Intel
> > board?
> > It can support up to 8 GBs RAM of the same speed as yours, but they on to
> > specify that you can only use 4 GB of 800 Mhz or up to 8 GBs of 667. You
> > might check the manual and see if they have the same limitations. Up to 8 GB
> > can mean many different things sometimes.
>
> > xiowan........in tucson
>
> > "kungfumonkeyman" wrote:
>
> > > oh yea... the mobo is an MSI nvidia 650i and the 2x 2gig stix are
> > > elixer....the 1 gigs are generic.
>
> > > "Patrick" wrote:
>
> > > > well memtest on the 2x2gigs
> > > > are all 4 stix the same maker, list ram type on the stixs
> > > > and motherboard make n model would be needed
>
> > > > although this may be better covered in a motherboard forum
>
> > > > like tomshardware.com or tweaktown.com
>
> > > > "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkey...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > > messagenews:8974A783-E19F-4213-A7B8-B6F4B66FC0DA@microsoft.com...
> > > > >I currently have 2 x 1gig and 2 x 2 gig sticks all running at 800. m to
> > > > > ensure it wasnt the size difference I tried just the 2 x 2gig sticks and
> > > > > was
> > > > > still acting slow. It is considerably slower...startup takes 2-3 minutes
> > > > > and
> > > > > I understand that there is a memory check so that doesnt bother me too
> > > > > much...it is still too long. even when I press alt cntrl del to get
> > > > > task
> > > > > manager up there is about a 10-15 sec delay until the menu appears.
>
> > > > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
> > > > >> How much slower? If your mobo takes dual channel then three sticks will
> > > > >> take it out of dual-channel mode and it might run slightly slower, but
> > > > >> probably not enough to be noticeable. If the sticks are not exactly the
> > > > >> same it would probably run slower.
>
> > > > >> "kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkey...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > > >> messagenews:F2D0BFD5-7D69-44B2-8821-AC16E450E76D@microsoft.com...
> > > > >> > When I first installed Ultimate edition I was only running 2 gigs so I
> > > > >> > went
> > > > >> > and purchased 2 x 2gig sticks and installed them. My computer has been
> > > > >> > running much slower than before so I thought that maybe one of the ram
> > > > >> > slots
> > > > >> > on my mobo was bad or that one of the new sticks was bad but I am
> > > > >> > reading
> > > > >> > all
> > > > >> > 6 gigs and I even swapped out all my chips in different slots and it
> > > > >> > seems
> > > > >> > that when I am running with just 2 gigs everything is fine, no matter
> > > > >> > if I
> > > > >> > am
> > > > >> > running with 2 x 1gig or with just 1 x 2gig. It is getting pretty
> > > > >> > annoying
> > > > >> > and was hoping that someone might have some advice on anything that I
> > > > >> > could
> > > > >> > try. Thank You

How about flogging the memory using a boot CD rather than testing it
in windows. This way you could isolate the problem, i.e. hardware or
OS. I know suse linux has a memory test on the first CD, but I bet
there are CDs just for memory flogging. I know the memory tester that
suse uses indicates the throughput.

You need a program that can address 64 bits. The more I think about
it, maybe downloading the first CD of suse is a good idea. A lot of
the existing memory testers may not be 64 bit.
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower now

HI,
putting in additional mem may have caused your Bios to set the "new" config
to default values (slower speeds)

like the other told : if you have hibernating (same amount of ram size), it
may eat your system drive (c:), where it sits,
that for , your swapfile may now run on a different (may be fragmented)
drive.

regards
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbmail.dk> wrote in message
news:%23NNRf0jVIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> With three times the RAM you really shouldn't LOWer your page file. It
> should be set at 1.5 times 6, which is 9. One trick that could speed up
> your

Why? Post a reference please.

I've researched this in the past, because I've seen claims like this in the
past (all the way back to NT 3.1), but no documentation exists (afaik) which
supports your claim. 1.5x (or physical mem size + 11MB) is the suggested
amount. AFAICT, the suggestion is based on the hypothesis that more memory
means you'll use more memory intensive apps, and you have a higher chance of
spillover. I've seen people suggest that the kernel wants (or even expects)
to be able to page all physical memory to file, but no documentation (again
AFAIK) supports this claim.

--
Rune
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

"kungfumonkeyman" <kungfumonkeyman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:3BD48B46-D01E-498B-964A-86307B2A5870@microsoft.com...
>I do show both cores, but they are both spiking most of the time but now at
> idle core 1 if at full and core 2 is about 10%. I will look further into

Which process(es) use the CPUs?

Add the "CPU time" column to task manager. (or just watch the CPU% gauge per
process)

--
Rune
 
Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Re: Installed 6 gigs of Ram in Vista Ultimate x64 and its slower n

Oh - this is much too old that I can possibly remember - attached here, you
can check with the Windows System Recommendations for my setup which runs on
'2GB'.

I do vaguely remember something about the claim you make, but this goes all
the way back to Windows 3.11 and the 'plus 11MB' doesn't make sense since
most machines had 10 - 40 MB HD's around that time - I suspect those 11MB's
were originally another percentage value that YOU at some point in time
calculated as being 11MB on your - then, current system?

Honestly, I don't have any idea of what is absolutely correct in this
matter, but it is (and has been) firmly supported by almost everyone plus
the Devil and his Grandma since as long as I can remember, Windowswize.

Check with your own Virtual Memory settings tab - I'm sure you'll come to
the conclusion that there is very little to 'fuzz' over whether you use the
one calculation formula or the other.


Tony. . .
 

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