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http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../

(Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted here
w/out pics)

United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
(92270)
Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55

Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),

"It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself
to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and
resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new scenarios
and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an evolutionary
sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped into the
improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as increased
performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio Workstation)
software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that almost rivals the
audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for years - but with none of
the proprietary hardware BS that is forged into the Mac world.


"Wait!"


You exclaim,

"What does this have to do with the title of this post?"

I'm getting to that.

After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of my
software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried to
run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
performance as compared with those same apps running under XP. Improved
support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with a user
rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could appreciate.
All these positive aspects and more, and then.....

ALERT!

After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for
the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing
latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing
software and networking tools to see what was happening. What I found
was foundation shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions
of what has and IS trying to connect to my computer even in an idle state;

NOTE;


DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)


United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the parent
branch of the U.N.
InformaticsDivision)


Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)

There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
too redundant to post
images for. To list a couple;

*Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent

*DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing,
suspected blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this
situation have suspected the acronym stands for the Department of
Homeland Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an
educated one at that.)


I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back legit
and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my system, so
I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when it first
became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing monitoring
software on his system, the hits it caught on his network were immediate
and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP and UDP by
suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when idle and running
only a bare minimum of system processes. I've written a college report
on the same phenomenon, which has gained considerable attention by even
my instructor. I've posted similar articles on a few tech sites and the
like that I frequent more often than this bored, and there are a number
of Vista users who have replied with similar claims.


--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
legality."
- Linus Torvalds
 
Turn yourself In

Turn yourself In

Turn yourself in to the government immediately. Do not use your computer.
Do not use Vista, XP, or even DOS.

Walk to the police staion and let them know you are turning yourself in


"The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy" <none@none.not> wrote in message
news:f83cab$lor$1@aioe.org...
> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>
> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted here
> w/out pics)
>
> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> (92270)
> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>
> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>
> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up with
> tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself to just
> 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and resistance to
> change shows only our inability to adapt to new scenarios and obstacles. I
> refuse to be left in the dust of an evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus
> relinquished my pride and dipped into the improvements Vista has to offer.
> Improvements such as increased performance with audio hardware and
> DAW(Digital Audio Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft
> upgrade that almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's
> for years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
> into the Mac world.
>
>
> "Wait!"
>
>
> You exclaim,
>
> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>
> I'm getting to that.
>
> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to see
> most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of my
> software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried to run
> on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and performance
> as compared with those same apps running under XP. Improved support
> against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with a user rights
> management system that a seasoned Linux user could appreciate. All these
> positive aspects and more, and then.....
>
> ALERT!
>
> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for the
> new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing latency
> on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing software and
> networking tools to see what was happening. What I found was foundation
> shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions of what has and IS
> trying to connect to my computer even in an idle state;
>
> NOTE;
>
>
> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>
>
> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the parent
> branch of the U.N.
> InformaticsDivision)
>
>
> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>
> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought too
> redundant to post
> images for. To list a couple;
>
> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>
> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing, suspected
> blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this situation have
> suspected the acronym stands for the Department of Homeland
> Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an educated one at
> that.)
>
>
> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back legit
> and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my system, so I
> ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when it first became
> available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing monitoring software on
> his system, the hits it caught on his network were immediate and almost
> identical in source. Attempts on both TCP and UDP by suspicious government
> owned addresses. Again, even when idle and running only a bare minimum of
> system processes. I've written a college report on the same phenomenon,
> which has gained considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted
> similar articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more
> often than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
> replied with similar claims.
>
>
> --
> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
>
> "Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
> legality."
> - Linus Torvalds
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>
>
> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted here
> w/out pics)
>
> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> (92270)
> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>
> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>
> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
> with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself
> to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and
> resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new scenarios
> and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an evolutionary
> sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped into the
> improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as increased
> performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio Workstation)
> software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that almost rivals the
> audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for years - but with none of
> the proprietary hardware BS that is forged into the Mac world.
>
>
> "Wait!"
>
>
> You exclaim,
>
> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>
> I'm getting to that.
>
> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
> see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of my
> software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried to
> run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
> performance as compared with those same apps running under XP. Improved
> support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with a user
> rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could appreciate.
> All these positive aspects and more, and then.....
>
> ALERT!
>
> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for
> the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing
> latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing
> software and networking tools to see what was happening. What I found
> was foundation shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions
> of what has and IS trying to connect to my computer even in an idle state;
>
> NOTE;
>
>
> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>
>
> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the parent
> branch of the U.N.
> InformaticsDivision)
>
>
> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>
> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
> too redundant to post
> images for. To list a couple;
>
> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>
> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing, suspected
> blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this situation have
> suspected the acronym stands for the Department of Homeland
> Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an educated one
> at that.)
>
>
> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back legit
> and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my system, so
> I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when it first
> became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing monitoring
> software on his system, the hits it caught on his network were immediate
> and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP and UDP by
> suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when idle and running
> only a bare minimum of system processes. I've written a college report
> on the same phenomenon, which has gained considerable attention by even
> my instructor. I've posted similar articles on a few tech sites and the
> like that I frequent more often than this bored, and there are a number
> of Vista users who have replied with similar claims.
>
>


Put your hands in the air and step away from the computer!
Frank
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

Read the comments to the article - it's a POS...

"The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy" <none@none.not> wrote in message
news:f83cab$lor$1@aioe.org...
> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>
> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted here
> w/out pics)
>
> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> (92270)
> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>
> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>
> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up with
> tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself to just
> 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and resistance to
> change shows only our inability to adapt to new scenarios and obstacles. I
> refuse to be left in the dust of an evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus
> relinquished my pride and dipped into the improvements Vista has to offer.
> Improvements such as increased performance with audio hardware and
> DAW(Digital Audio Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft
> upgrade that almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's
> for years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
> into the Mac world.
>
>
> "Wait!"
>
>
> You exclaim,
>
> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>
> I'm getting to that.
>
> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to see
> most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of my
> software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried to run
> on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and performance
> as compared with those same apps running under XP. Improved support
> against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with a user rights
> management system that a seasoned Linux user could appreciate. All these
> positive aspects and more, and then.....
>
> ALERT!
>
> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for the
> new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing latency
> on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing software and
> networking tools to see what was happening. What I found was foundation
> shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions of what has and IS
> trying to connect to my computer even in an idle state;
>
> NOTE;
>
>
> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>
>
> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the parent
> branch of the U.N.
> InformaticsDivision)
>
>
> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>
> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought too
> redundant to post
> images for. To list a couple;
>
> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>
> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing, suspected
> blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this situation have
> suspected the acronym stands for the Department of Homeland
> Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an educated one at
> that.)
>
>
> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back legit
> and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my system, so I
> ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when it first became
> available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing monitoring software on
> his system, the hits it caught on his network were immediate and almost
> identical in source. Attempts on both TCP and UDP by suspicious government
> owned addresses. Again, even when idle and running only a bare minimum of
> system processes. I've written a college report on the same phenomenon,
> which has gained considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted
> similar articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more
> often than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
> replied with similar claims.
>
>
> --
> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
>
> "Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
> legality."
> - Linus Torvalds
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

Mac wrote:

> Read the comments to the article - it's a POS...

---------------------------------------------------

Hey...we're having fun here! :-)
Frank
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

> Did you forget to add "snipped without being read"?
>

I didn't forget anything. Why do you ask?

Mike
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

Frank wrote:
> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>
>> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>>
>>
>> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted
>> here w/out pics)
>>
>> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
>> (92270)
>> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>>
>> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>>
>> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
>> with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself
>> to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and
>> resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new
>> scenarios and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an
>> evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped
>> into the improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as
>> increased performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio
>> Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that
>> almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for
>> years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
>> into the Mac world.
>>
>>
>> "Wait!"
>>
>>
>> You exclaim,
>>
>> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>>
>> I'm getting to that.
>>
>> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
>> see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of
>> my software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried
>> to run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
>> performance as compared with those same apps running under XP.
>> Improved support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with
>> a user rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could
>> appreciate. All these positive aspects and more, and then.....
>>
>> ALERT!
>>
>> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for
>> the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing
>> latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing
>> software and networking tools to see what was happening. What I found
>> was foundation shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions
>> of what has and IS trying to connect to my computer even in an idle
>> state;
>>
>> NOTE;
>>
>>
>> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>>
>>
>> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the
>> parent branch of the U.N.
>> InformaticsDivision)
>>
>>
>> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>>
>> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
>> too redundant to post
>> images for. To list a couple;
>>
>> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>>
>> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing,
>> suspected blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this
>> situation have suspected the acronym stands for the Department of
>> Homeland Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an
>> educated one at that.)
>>
>>
>> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back
>> legit and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my
>> system, so I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when
>> it first became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing
>> monitoring software on his system, the hits it caught on his network
>> were immediate and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP
>> and UDP by suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when
>> idle and running only a bare minimum of system processes. I've written
>> a college report on the same phenomenon, which has gained considerable
>> attention by even my instructor. I've posted similar articles on a few
>> tech sites and the like that I frequent more often than this bored,
>> and there are a number of Vista users who have replied with similar
>> claims.
>>
>>
>
>
> Put your hands in the air and step away from the computer!
> Frank

I don't know if you picked up on it, but I'm slightly skeptical of this
article. I'm not the type of person who feeds into conspiracy theories.
I do however greatly value my own privacy, and I think that
information is important. I also feel that noone is going to look out
for me better than myself. I put it out here because it's good for
people to hear about these things instead of living in a bubble. People
can be their own judge of the info set forth.


--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
legality."
- Linus Torvalds
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

:)

"Frank" <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote in message
news:%236NZ$OYzHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Mac wrote:
>
>> Read the comments to the article - it's a POS...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Hey...we're having fun here! :-)
> Frank
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

Wow... geee... gollywiz. Guess what, run sniffer's n such with XP and Linux
and those same outfits are trying to connect along with a ton of chinese
gov't facilities, european, and probably PETA. Another post about "much to
do about nothing". *yawns*

"The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy" <none@none.not> wrote in message
news:f83cab$lor$1@aioe.org...
> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>
> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted here
> w/out pics)
>
> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> (92270)
> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>
> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>
> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up with
> tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself to just
> 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and resistance to
> change shows only our inability to adapt to new scenarios and obstacles. I
> refuse to be left in the dust of an evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus
> relinquished my pride and dipped into the improvements Vista has to offer.
> Improvements such as increased performance with audio hardware and
> DAW(Digital Audio Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft
> upgrade that almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's
> for years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
> into the Mac world.
>
>
> "Wait!"
>
>
> You exclaim,
>
> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>
> I'm getting to that.
>
> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to see
> most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of my
> software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried to run
> on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and performance
> as compared with those same apps running under XP. Improved support
> against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with a user rights
> management system that a seasoned Linux user could appreciate. All these
> positive aspects and more, and then.....
>
> ALERT!
>
> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for the
> new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing latency
> on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing software and
> networking tools to see what was happening. What I found was foundation
> shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions of what has and IS
> trying to connect to my computer even in an idle state;
>
> NOTE;
>
>
> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>
>
> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the parent
> branch of the U.N.
> InformaticsDivision)
>
>
> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>
> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought too
> redundant to post
> images for. To list a couple;
>
> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>
> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing, suspected
> blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this situation have
> suspected the acronym stands for the Department of Homeland
> Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an educated one at
> that.)
>
>
> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back legit
> and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my system, so I
> ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when it first became
> available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing monitoring software on
> his system, the hits it caught on his network were immediate and almost
> identical in source. Attempts on both TCP and UDP by suspicious government
> owned addresses. Again, even when idle and running only a bare minimum of
> system processes. I've written a college report on the same phenomenon,
> which has gained considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted
> similar articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more
> often than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
> replied with similar claims.
>
>
> --
> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
>
> "Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
> legality."
> - Linus Torvalds
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>>>
>>>
>>> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted
>>> here w/out pics)
>>>
>>> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
>>> (92270)
>>> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>>>
>>> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>>>
>>> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
>>> with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced
>>> myself to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable,
>>> and resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new
>>> scenarios and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an
>>> evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped
>>> into the improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as
>>> increased performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio
>>> Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that
>>> almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for
>>> years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
>>> into the Mac world.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wait!"
>>>
>>>
>>> You exclaim,
>>>
>>> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>>>
>>> I'm getting to that.
>>>
>>> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
>>> see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of
>>> my software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried
>>> to run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
>>> performance as compared with those same apps running under XP.
>>> Improved support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete
>>> with a user rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could
>>> appreciate. All these positive aspects and more, and then.....
>>>
>>> ALERT!
>>>
>>> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love
>>> for the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began
>>> noticing latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port
>>> sniffing software and networking tools to see what was happening.
>>> What I found was foundation shaking. The two images below show
>>> graphical depictions of what has and IS trying to connect to my
>>> computer even in an idle state;
>>>
>>> NOTE;
>>>
>>>
>>> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>>>
>>>
>>> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the
>>> parent branch of the U.N.
>>> InformaticsDivision)
>>>
>>>
>>> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>>>
>>> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
>>> too redundant to post
>>> images for. To list a couple;
>>>
>>> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>>>
>>> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing,
>>> suspected blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this
>>> situation have suspected the acronym stands for the Department of
>>> Homeland Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an
>>> educated one at that.)
>>>
>>>
>>> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back
>>> legit and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my
>>> system, so I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when
>>> it first became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing
>>> monitoring software on his system, the hits it caught on his network
>>> were immediate and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP
>>> and UDP by suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when
>>> idle and running only a bare minimum of system processes. I've
>>> written a college report on the same phenomenon, which has gained
>>> considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted similar
>>> articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more often
>>> than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
>>> replied with similar claims.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Put your hands in the air and step away from the computer!
>> Frank
>
>
> I don't know if you picked up on it, but I'm slightly skeptical of this
> article. I'm not the type of person who feeds into conspiracy theories.
> I do however greatly value my own privacy, and I think that information
> is important. I also feel that noone is going to look out for me better
> than myself. I put it out here because it's good for people to hear
> about these things instead of living in a bubble. People can be their
> own judge of the info set forth.
>
>
Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not really after
you! :-)
Frank
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:27:49 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not really after
>you! :-)
>Frank

I think it is a safe bet men in white coats with a big butterfly net
are after you Frankie.
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

"The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy" <none@none.not> wrote in message
news:f83cab$lor$1@aioe.org...
> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>
> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted here
> w/out pics)
>
> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> (92270)
> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>
> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>
> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up with
> tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself to just
> 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and resistance to
> change shows only our inability to adapt to new scenarios and obstacles. I
> refuse to be left in the dust of an evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus
> relinquished my pride and dipped into the improvements Vista has to offer.
> Improvements such as increased performance with audio hardware and
> DAW(Digital Audio Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft
> upgrade that almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's
> for years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
> into the Mac world.
>
>
> "Wait!"
>
>
> You exclaim,
>
> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>
> I'm getting to that.
>
> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to see
> most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of my
> software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried to run
> on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and performance
> as compared with those same apps running under XP. Improved support
> against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with a user rights
> management system that a seasoned Linux user could appreciate. All these
> positive aspects and more, and then.....
>
> ALERT!
>
> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for the
> new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing latency
> on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing software and
> networking tools to see what was happening. What I found was foundation
> shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions of what has and IS
> trying to connect to my computer even in an idle state;
>
> NOTE;
>
>
> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>
>
> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the parent
> branch of the U.N.
> InformaticsDivision)
>
>
> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>
> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought too
> redundant to post
> images for. To list a couple;
>
> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>
> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing, suspected
> blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this situation have
> suspected the acronym stands for the Department of Homeland
> Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an educated one at
> that.)
>
>
> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back legit
> and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my system, so I
> ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when it first became
> available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing monitoring software on
> his system, the hits it caught on his network were immediate and almost
> identical in source. Attempts on both TCP and UDP by suspicious government
> owned addresses. Again, even when idle and running only a bare minimum of
> system processes. I've written a college report on the same phenomenon,
> which has gained considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted
> similar articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more
> often than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
> replied with similar claims.
>
>
> --
> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
>
> "Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
> legality."
> - Linus Torvalds


And you don't think there's -any- chance that any of these IP's are spoofed?

Even if they're not... at some point one must choose to either let the
government attempt to prevent future in-country attacks or take one's
chances. I am, by all accounts, fairly liberal in my thinking. That said, I
would prefer the former choice and having to give up my on-line privacy
( -I- have nothing to hide, at least as it relates to terrorist activities)
if it helped prevent the detonation of a dirty bomb in Times Square. I don't
think the feds are concerned with other aspects of one's private life.
(Unless one is a drug dealer of major proportion or some other high-level
criminal.)

I used to live in Yonkers, NY. I could sit in my driveway and see the World
Trade Center towers. When I lived on LI, on a clear day, one could see the
tops of the towers from forty miles away. No more. The approximate three
thousand people that died on 9/11/01 will pale in comparison if the bad guys
manage to get a dirty bomb into NYC and detonate it. Read my email, please!

And all that said... if one accepts (or, in many folks cases, submits to)
government agencies sucking up local bandwidth to monitor for terrorist
traffic, then one must accept that such activities are going to have a
negative effect on performance. It's a fact of life. Sure, the negative
effect on performance sucks big time... the alternative, i.e., letting
everyone post in total anonymity, well.. personally, as the previous
statements in this email suggest, is a freedom I'm willing to
sacrifice -these days-. But, again, that may be because I lived up in the
NYC area, lived in Manhattan for 12 years, in fact. And I believe that NYC
will remain the main target. But I'm getting off track, now... sorry. Yes,
having big brother suck up your local bandwidth sucks! I'm willing to deal
with it.

Lang
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:ubraa39dcasfbhiui7a60s14q7df94q4ip@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:27:49 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:
>
>>Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not really after
>>you! :-)
>>Frank
>
> I think it is a safe bet men in white coats with a big butterfly net
> are after you Frankie.
>



Trying to explain the truth to Frank or any fanboy is like trying to explain
the advantages of being with a woman to a fag. They are not interested in
what is right. Just spreading disease.

Floyd
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

noaim wrote:
> why is there a screenshot of it running in xp?
>

From the comments:

"Regarding the "your screenshots are WinXP" thing. - He's remoting into
a Windows XP-based router from a Vista machine."

>
> "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
> news:13aadgq22d4lt99@news.supernews.com...
>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>>> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>>>
>>
>> Your tinfoil hat is too tight.
>>
>> Mike
>



--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"They hacked the Microsoft website to make it think a linux box was a
windows box. Thats called hacking. People who do hacking are called
hackers."

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
legality."
- Linus Torvalds
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

"Floyd Humpherys" <mrhealth@thehealthybeaver.com> wrote in message
news:OjA2blezHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Trying to explain the truth to Frank or any fanboy is like trying to explain
> the advantages of being with a woman to a fag. They are not interested in
> what is right. Just spreading disease.
>
> Floyd

That's disgusting. No one is interested in your Neanderthal prejudices and
lies. You are an ignorant, bigoted ass hole.

Tell me, does it hurt when you drag your knuckles on the sidewalk? Don't your
hairy paws get caught in the cracks?

--
I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!
 
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't

Lang Murphy wrote:
> "The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy" <none@none.not> wrote in
> message news:f83cab$lor$1@aioe.org...
>> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
>>
>>
>> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted
>> here w/out pics)
>>
>> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
>> (92270)
>> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
>>
>> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
>>
>> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
>> with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced myself
>> to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable, and
>> resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new
>> scenarios and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an
>> evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped
>> into the improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as
>> increased performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio
>> Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that
>> almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for
>> years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
>> into the Mac world.
>>
>>
>> "Wait!"
>>
>>
>> You exclaim,
>>
>> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
>>
>> I'm getting to that.
>>
>> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
>> see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of
>> my software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried
>> to run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
>> performance as compared with those same apps running under XP.
>> Improved support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete with
>> a user rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could
>> appreciate. All these positive aspects and more, and then.....
>>
>> ALERT!
>>
>> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love for
>> the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began noticing
>> latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port sniffing
>> software and networking tools to see what was happening. What I found
>> was foundation shaking. The two images below show graphical depictions
>> of what has and IS trying to connect to my computer even in an idle
>> state;
>>
>> NOTE;
>>
>>
>> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
>>
>>
>> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the
>> parent branch of the U.N.
>> InformaticsDivision)
>>
>>
>> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
>>
>> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
>> too redundant to post
>> images for. To list a couple;
>>
>> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
>>
>> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing,
>> suspected blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this
>> situation have suspected the acronym stands for the Department of
>> Homeland Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an
>> educated one at that.)
>>
>>
>> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back
>> legit and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my
>> system, so I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when
>> it first became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing
>> monitoring software on his system, the hits it caught on his network
>> were immediate and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP
>> and UDP by suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when
>> idle and running only a bare minimum of system processes. I've written
>> a college report on the same phenomenon, which has gained considerable
>> attention by even my instructor. I've posted similar articles on a few
>> tech sites and the like that I frequent more often than this bored,
>> and there are a number of Vista users who have replied with similar
>> claims.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
>> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
>>
>> "Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
>> legality."
>> - Linus Torvalds
>
>
> And you don't think there's -any- chance that any of these IP's are
> spoofed?
>
> Even if they're not... at some point one must choose to either let the
> government attempt to prevent future in-country attacks or take one's
> chances. I am, by all accounts, fairly liberal in my thinking. That
> said, I would prefer the former choice and having to give up my on-line
> privacy ( -I- have nothing to hide, at least as it relates to terrorist
> activities) if it helped prevent the detonation of a dirty bomb in Times
> Square. I don't think the feds are concerned with other aspects of one's
> private life. (Unless one is a drug dealer of major proportion or some
> other high-level criminal.)
>
> I used to live in Yonkers, NY. I could sit in my driveway and see the
> World Trade Center towers. When I lived on LI, on a clear day, one could
> see the tops of the towers from forty miles away. No more. The
> approximate three thousand people that died on 9/11/01 will pale in
> comparison if the bad guys manage to get a dirty bomb into NYC and
> detonate it. Read my email, please!
>
> And all that said... if one accepts (or, in many folks cases, submits
> to) government agencies sucking up local bandwidth to monitor for
> terrorist traffic, then one must accept that such activities are going
> to have a negative effect on performance. It's a fact of life. Sure, the
> negative effect on performance sucks big time... the alternative, i.e.,
> letting everyone post in total anonymity, well.. personally, as the
> previous statements in this email suggest, is a freedom I'm willing to
> sacrifice -these days-. But, again, that may be because I lived up in
> the NYC area, lived in Manhattan for 12 years, in fact. And I believe
> that NYC will remain the main target. But I'm getting off track, now...
> sorry. Yes, having big brother suck up your local bandwidth sucks! I'm
> willing to deal with it.
>
> Lang

I don't agree with all of your points Lang, but I have to tell you that
you seem like a very strong individual and I admire you for it.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
legality."
- Linus Torvalds
 
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