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marytee (aka Linuxgrrl)
Guest
Re: Vista may spy on you for the gov't
"Frank" wrote:
> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>
> > Frank wrote:
> >
> >> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted
> >>> here w/out pics)
> >>>
> >>> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> >>> (92270)
> >>> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
> >>>
> >>> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
> >>>
> >>> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
> >>> with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced
> >>> myself to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable,
> >>> and resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new
> >>> scenarios and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an
> >>> evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped
> >>> into the improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as
> >>> increased performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio
> >>> Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that
> >>> almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for
> >>> years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
> >>> into the Mac world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Wait!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You exclaim,
> >>>
> >>> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
> >>>
> >>> I'm getting to that.
> >>>
> >>> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
> >>> see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of
> >>> my software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried
> >>> to run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
> >>> performance as compared with those same apps running under XP.
> >>> Improved support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete
> >>> with a user rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could
> >>> appreciate. All these positive aspects and more, and then.....
> >>>
> >>> ALERT!
> >>>
> >>> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love
> >>> for the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began
> >>> noticing latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port
> >>> sniffing software and networking tools to see what was happening.
> >>> What I found was foundation shaking. The two images below show
> >>> graphical depictions of what has and IS trying to connect to my
> >>> computer even in an idle state;
> >>>
> >>> NOTE;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the
> >>> parent branch of the U.N.
> >>> InformaticsDivision)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
> >>>
> >>> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
> >>> too redundant to post
> >>> images for. To list a couple;
> >>>
> >>> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
> >>>
> >>> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing,
> >>> suspected blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this
> >>> situation have suspected the acronym stands for the Department of
> >>> Homeland Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an
> >>> educated one at that.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back
> >>> legit and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my
> >>> system, so I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when
> >>> it first became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing
> >>> monitoring software on his system, the hits it caught on his network
> >>> were immediate and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP
> >>> and UDP by suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when
> >>> idle and running only a bare minimum of system processes. I've
> >>> written a college report on the same phenomenon, which has gained
> >>> considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted similar
> >>> articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more often
> >>> than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
> >>> replied with similar claims.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Put your hands in the air and step away from the computer!
> >> Frank
> >
> >
> > I don't know if you picked up on it, but I'm slightly skeptical of this
> > article. I'm not the type of person who feeds into conspiracy theories.
> > I do however greatly value my own privacy, and I think that information
> > is important. I also feel that noone is going to look out for me better
> > than myself. I put it out here because it's good for people to hear
> > about these things instead of living in a bubble. People can be their
> > own judge of the info set forth.
> >
> >
> Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not really after
> you!
> Frank
----------------------
The lack of control of my own computer is what has driven me to that OS
starting with the letter L. Yesterday I attempted to update my legally
purchased copy of Windows. I selected the option that would allow me to
choose the security downloads. To my surprise the FIRST download (no choice)
was Windows Genuine Advantage. There was no getting around it. Needless to
say it p*ssed me off and the security update did NOT occur. Lack of choice.
What did Ido after that...I rebooted into the Linux side of the
computer--where I have complete control over what is one my computer. If not
for the few games that I still run, I'd wipe the partition clean.
Microsoft, as a customer who has purchased (over the years) no less than 6
copies of Windows, I am completely annoyed.
"Frank" wrote:
> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>
> > Frank wrote:
> >
> >> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://www.whitedust.net/news/3984/...ine_Watchdogs?_Part_of_the_war_on_terror?.../
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> (Go to the site to see the screenshots and visuals, article quoted
> >>> here w/out pics)
> >>>
> >>> United States Government Online Watchdogs? Part of the war on terror?
> >>> (92270)
> >>> Abandonia Forums at Jul 23rd, 2007 at 22:46:55
> >>>
> >>> Richard Compton Writes (on the Abandonia Forums),
> >>>
> >>> "It has been a month since my upgrade to Vista. I like to keep up
> >>> with tech trends and though reluctant to throw out XP, I forced
> >>> myself to just 'swallow the pill'. After all - change is inevitable,
> >>> and resistance to change shows only our inability to adapt to new
> >>> scenarios and obstacles. I refuse to be left in the dust of an
> >>> evolutionary sandstorm. I have thus relinquished my pride and dipped
> >>> into the improvements Vista has to offer. Improvements such as
> >>> increased performance with audio hardware and DAW(Digital Audio
> >>> Workstation) software. We're talking about a Microsoft upgrade that
> >>> almost rivals the audio development quality seen on Mac DAW's for
> >>> years - but with none of the proprietary hardware BS that is forged
> >>> into the Mac world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Wait!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You exclaim,
> >>>
> >>> "What does this have to do with the title of this post?"
> >>>
> >>> I'm getting to that.
> >>>
> >>> After installing all of my usual apps on Vista I was impressed to
> >>> see most everything was 100% backward compatible. I expected much of
> >>> my software to be rendered incompatible. Out of everything I've tried
> >>> to run on it - 99% produce excellent results in both loading time and
> >>> performance as compared with those same apps running under XP.
> >>> Improved support against malware, spyware, and trojans - complete
> >>> with a user rights management system that a seasoned Linux user could
> >>> appreciate. All these positive aspects and more, and then.....
> >>>
> >>> ALERT!
> >>>
> >>> After running Vista for only a few days - with a complete love
> >>> for the new platform the first sign of trouble erupted. I began
> >>> noticing latency on my home network connection - so I booted my port
> >>> sniffing software and networking tools to see what was happening.
> >>> What I found was foundation shaking. The two images below show
> >>> graphical depictions of what has and IS trying to connect to my
> >>> computer even in an idle state;
> >>>
> >>> NOTE;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DoD Network Information Center(Department of Defense)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> United Nations Development Program(Seems to correlate to the
> >>> parent branch of the U.N.
> >>> InformaticsDivision)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Halliburton Company(We all know these guys)
> >>>
> >>> There have been many other unwarranted connections that I thought
> >>> too redundant to post
> >>> images for. To list a couple;
> >>>
> >>> *Ministry of Defense Data Return Agent
> >>>
> >>> *DOHS-Recon(traceroutes for this address provided nothing,
> >>> suspected blocks on traceroute. Many of us who are monitoring this
> >>> situation have suspected the acronym stands for the Department of
> >>> Homeland Security*Reconnaissance?*. This is merely a guess, but an
> >>> educated one at that.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I ran traceroutes on the IP's, and sure enough they came back
> >>> legit and government owned. I thought this might be exclusive to my
> >>> system, so I ran over to a friend of mine who upgraded to Vista when
> >>> it first became available(MICROSOFT FAN BOY! ;P ). After installing
> >>> monitoring software on his system, the hits it caught on his network
> >>> were immediate and almost identical in source. Attempts on both TCP
> >>> and UDP by suspicious government owned addresses. Again, even when
> >>> idle and running only a bare minimum of system processes. I've
> >>> written a college report on the same phenomenon, which has gained
> >>> considerable attention by even my instructor. I've posted similar
> >>> articles on a few tech sites and the like that I frequent more often
> >>> than this bored, and there are a number of Vista users who have
> >>> replied with similar claims.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Put your hands in the air and step away from the computer!
> >> Frank
> >
> >
> > I don't know if you picked up on it, but I'm slightly skeptical of this
> > article. I'm not the type of person who feeds into conspiracy theories.
> > I do however greatly value my own privacy, and I think that information
> > is important. I also feel that noone is going to look out for me better
> > than myself. I put it out here because it's good for people to hear
> > about these things instead of living in a bubble. People can be their
> > own judge of the info set forth.
> >
> >
> Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not really after
> you!
> Frank
----------------------
The lack of control of my own computer is what has driven me to that OS
starting with the letter L. Yesterday I attempted to update my legally
purchased copy of Windows. I selected the option that would allow me to
choose the security downloads. To my surprise the FIRST download (no choice)
was Windows Genuine Advantage. There was no getting around it. Needless to
say it p*ssed me off and the security update did NOT occur. Lack of choice.
What did Ido after that...I rebooted into the Linux side of the
computer--where I have complete control over what is one my computer. If not
for the few games that I still run, I'd wipe the partition clean.
Microsoft, as a customer who has purchased (over the years) no less than 6
copies of Windows, I am completely annoyed.