Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

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Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

Don't feel bad. I'm looking at my system and I can't find
any options to limit the amount of space System Restore
takes either. In the Help it does say that it can take up
to 15% of the drive space and then it should automatically
start deleting the older points. I do find an option to
turn System Restore off.


Ken Triebold wrote:
> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I am
> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if you go
> to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
> configuration option to be seen either way.
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any
>> program. Any.
>>
>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System Restore"
>>> or a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find.
>>> Apparently it is not configurable.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
>>>> Ken,
>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following might
>>>> apply
>>>> to Vista too.
>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on your
>>>> hard disk.
>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
>>>> :)
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files and
>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of
>>>>> storage is
>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by System
>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and
>>>>> change System
>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
>>>>> suggested. I
>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but
>>>>> there was no
>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable
>>>>> to figure
>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
>>>>> instruction as to
>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista
>>>>> Home
>>>>> Premium x64.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> > Open Explorer:
>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories
>>>>> one > at a
>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will >
>>>>> probably
>>>>> > find
>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error.
>>>>> Just > delete
>>>>> > it.
>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
>>>>> > pretty
>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and
>>>>> take > a
>>>>> > look.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in
>>>>> and > delete
>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now.
>>>>> One >> thing
>>>>> > I
>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My
>>>>> old >> XP
>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
>>>>> transferred >> all
>>>>> > the
>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but
>>>>> many of >> the
>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>> >> so
>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine
>>>>> would >> be
>>>>> >> less
>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot
>>>>> more
>>>>> >> space
>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I
>>>>> checked >> the
>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few
>>>>> days
>>>>> >> later
>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
>>>>> loaded >> that
>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing
>>>>> >> 12.3 GB.
>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't come
>>>>> >> anywhere
>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is
>>>>> showing so >> much
>>>>> >> used space?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

Yes, of course I checked out "Open System Protection", and looked all around
on that page including the other tabs but there is nothing to be found there
relating to disk space size allocation for System Restore.


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:7C61CAB6-64D3-482C-8DF3-B98F2EDF1582@microsoft.com...
> Didn't you click on the link "Open system protection"?
>
> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:esvZQ60ZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I am
>> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if you go
>> to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
>> configuration option to be seen either way.
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
>>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
>>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any program.
>>> Any.
>>>
>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System Restore" or
>>>> a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find. Apparently it
>>>> is not configurable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Ken,
>>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following might
>>>>> apply
>>>>> to Vista too.
>>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
>>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on your
>>>>> hard disk.
>>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
>>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
>>>>> :)
>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of
>>>>>> storage is
>>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by System
>>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and change
>>>>>> System
>>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
>>>>>> suggested. I
>>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but there
>>>>>> was no
>>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable to
>>>>>> figure
>>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
>>>>>> instruction as to
>>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista
>>>>>> Home
>>>>>> Premium x64.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> > Open Explorer:
>>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories
>>>>>> > one at a
>>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
>>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will
>>>>>> > probably
>>>>>> > find
>>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error. Just
>>>>>> > delete
>>>>>> > it.
>>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
>>>>>> > pretty
>>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and
>>>>>> > take a
>>>>>> > look.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in and
>>>>>> > delete
>>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
>>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now.
>>>>>> >> One thing
>>>>>> > I
>>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My
>>>>>> >> old XP
>>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
>>>>>> >> transferred all
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but many
>>>>>> >> of the
>>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
>>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>>> >> so
>>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine would
>>>>>> >> be
>>>>>> >> less
>>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot
>>>>>> >> more
>>>>>> >> space
>>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I checked
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few
>>>>>> >> days
>>>>>> >> later
>>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
>>>>>> >> loaded that
>>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing
>>>>>> >> 12.3 GB.
>>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't come
>>>>>> >> anywhere
>>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is showing
>>>>>> >> so much
>>>>>> >> used space?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

Mark, your instruction was very helpful.

First I ran vssadmin List ShadowStorage to see what my current setup was.
Here is what I found (with values abbreviated for simplicity):
used 44GB
Allocated 46GB
Maximum 69GB
The total used space on C: at this time was 63.7GB.

Then I resized ShadowStorage for 3GB and ran List ShadowStorage again. Here
is what I found:
used 0B
Allocated 0B
Maximum 3GB
The total used space on C: was now 17.2GB, so it clearly worked in reducing
my used space on C:.

Since the used and allocated space were shown as zero, I figured there must
be no Restore Points in the system. I checked System Restore, and sure
enough, all of the old restore points were gone. I then manually made one
restore point and confirmed that it showed up in System Restore. I then
checked the used space on C: and found it to be 17.5GB, so the used space
grew by 0.3GB with one restore point.

this all seems just fine right now. I will keep an eye on the used space in
C: and also look for automatically-created restore points as time passes
just to make sure things proceed as they should.

Thanks a lot for your assistance.

-Ken


"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:OoPiOO1ZIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> From an elevated CMD prompt:
> vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /on=[drive letter]: /For=[drive letter]:
> /Maxsize=[maximum size]
>
> MaxSize must be 300MB or greater and accepts the following suffixes: KB,
> MB,
> GB, TB, PB and EB. If a suffix is not supplied, MaxSize is in bytes. If
> MaxSize is not specified, then there will be no limit to the amount of
> space
> it may use.
>
> For example, if you want System Restore to use a maximum of 3GB of space
> for
> the restore points on drive "C:", you should type the following:
> vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /On=C: /For=C: /Maxsize=3GB
> (Note: Resizing the storage association may cause shadow copies to
> disappear!)
>
> For other information:
> Type vssadmin /? and press Enter to see the list of available options.
>
> e.g.
> If you want to know how much space has been allocated and the maximum
> amount
> of space that can be used by System Restore type the following command:
> vssadmin List ShadowStorage
>
>
>
>
> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eyMqFrzZIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files and
>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of storage

> is
>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by System
>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and change

> System
>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
>> suggested.

> I
>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but there was

> no
>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable to

> figure
>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any instruction as

> to
>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista Home
>> Premium x64.
>>
>>
>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Open Explorer:
>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories one
>> > at

> a
>> > time chasing only the largest.
>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will probably
>> > find
>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error. Just

> delete
>> > it.
>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
>> > pretty
>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and take a
>> > look.
>> >
>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in and

> delete
>> > all but the most recent restore.
>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now. One

> thing
>> > I
>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My old XP
>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I transferred
>> >> all
>> > the
>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but many of

> the
>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
>> >> machine,
>> >> so
>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine would be
>> >> less
>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot more
>> >> space
>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I checked the
>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few days
>> >> later
>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not loaded

> that
>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing 12.3

> GB.
>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't come
>> >> anywhere
>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is showing so

> much
>> >> used space?
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

Ken, the only way to change the size of the system restore from the default
% is to edit the registry. I can look up the necessary instructions this
afternoon if you don't get it by googling for it. If I remember the default
is 15%.

"Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uCN1ic1ZIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yes, of course I checked out "Open System Protection", and looked all
> around on that page including the other tabs but there is nothing to be
> found there relating to disk space size allocation for System Restore.
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:7C61CAB6-64D3-482C-8DF3-B98F2EDF1582@microsoft.com...
>> Didn't you click on the link "Open system protection"?
>>
>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:esvZQ60ZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I am
>>> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if you go
>>> to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
>>> configuration option to be seen either way.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
>>>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
>>>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any program.
>>>> Any.
>>>>
>>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System Restore"
>>>>> or a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find. Apparently
>>>>> it is not configurable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following might
>>>>>> apply
>>>>>> to Vista too.
>>>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
>>>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on your
>>>>>> hard disk.
>>>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
>>>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of
>>>>>>> storage is
>>>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by System
>>>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and
>>>>>>> change System
>>>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
>>>>>>> suggested. I
>>>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but
>>>>>>> there was no
>>>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable to
>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
>>>>>>> instruction as to
>>>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista
>>>>>>> Home
>>>>>>> Premium x64.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> > Open Explorer:
>>>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories
>>>>>>> > one at a
>>>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
>>>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will
>>>>>>> > probably
>>>>>>> > find
>>>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error. Just
>>>>>>> > delete
>>>>>>> > it.
>>>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
>>>>>>> > pretty
>>>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and
>>>>>>> > take a
>>>>>>> > look.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in and
>>>>>>> > delete
>>>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
>>>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now.
>>>>>>> >> One thing
>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My
>>>>>>> >> old XP
>>>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
>>>>>>> >> transferred all
>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but many
>>>>>>> >> of the
>>>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
>>>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>>>> >> so
>>>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine
>>>>>>> >> would be
>>>>>>> >> less
>>>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot
>>>>>>> >> more
>>>>>>> >> space
>>>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I
>>>>>>> >> checked the
>>>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few
>>>>>>> >> days
>>>>>>> >> later
>>>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
>>>>>>> >> loaded that
>>>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing
>>>>>>> >> 12.3 GB.
>>>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't come
>>>>>>> >> anywhere
>>>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is showing
>>>>>>> >> so much
>>>>>>> >> used space?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

John, please see my reply to Mark lower down on this thread. I successfully
reduced the size of System Restore by following his instructions.

-Ken


"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:eyo15e2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ken, the only way to change the size of the system restore from the
> default % is to edit the registry. I can look up the necessary
> instructions this afternoon if you don't get it by googling for it. If I
> remember the default is 15%.
>
> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCN1ic1ZIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, of course I checked out "Open System Protection", and looked all
>> around on that page including the other tabs but there is nothing to be
>> found there relating to disk space size allocation for System Restore.
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:7C61CAB6-64D3-482C-8DF3-B98F2EDF1582@microsoft.com...
>>> Didn't you click on the link "Open system protection"?
>>>
>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:esvZQ60ZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I am
>>>> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if you
>>>> go to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
>>>> configuration option to be seen either way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
>>>>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any
>>>>> program. Any.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System Restore"
>>>>>> or a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find.
>>>>>> Apparently it is not configurable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following might
>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>> to Vista too.
>>>>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
>>>>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on your
>>>>>>> hard disk.
>>>>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
>>>>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of
>>>>>>>> storage is
>>>>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by
>>>>>>>> System
>>>>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and
>>>>>>>> change System
>>>>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
>>>>>>>> suggested. I
>>>>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but
>>>>>>>> there was no
>>>>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable
>>>>>>>> to figure
>>>>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
>>>>>>>> instruction as to
>>>>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista
>>>>>>>> Home
>>>>>>>> Premium x64.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> > Open Explorer:
>>>>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories
>>>>>>>> > one at a
>>>>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
>>>>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will
>>>>>>>> > probably
>>>>>>>> > find
>>>>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error.
>>>>>>>> > Just delete
>>>>>>>> > it.
>>>>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
>>>>>>>> > pretty
>>>>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and
>>>>>>>> > take a
>>>>>>>> > look.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in
>>>>>>>> > and delete
>>>>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
>>>>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now.
>>>>>>>> >> One thing
>>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My
>>>>>>>> >> old XP
>>>>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
>>>>>>>> >> transferred all
>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but
>>>>>>>> >> many of the
>>>>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
>>>>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>>>>> >> so
>>>>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine
>>>>>>>> >> would be
>>>>>>>> >> less
>>>>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot
>>>>>>>> >> more
>>>>>>>> >> space
>>>>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I
>>>>>>>> >> checked the
>>>>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few
>>>>>>>> >> days
>>>>>>>> >> later
>>>>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
>>>>>>>> >> loaded that
>>>>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing
>>>>>>>> >> 12.3 GB.
>>>>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't
>>>>>>>> >> come
>>>>>>>> >> anywhere
>>>>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is
>>>>>>>> >> showing so much
>>>>>>>> >> used space?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

System restore is stored in a different key. If your subsequent restore
points grow larger than you want, there is a key for the percentage to be
used and another for the frequency of the automatic restore points. You
have limited the size of the shadow copies and for now deleted your older
restore points.


"Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OpGPii2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> John, please see my reply to Mark lower down on this thread. I
> successfully reduced the size of System Restore by following his
> instructions.
>
> -Ken
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:eyo15e2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Ken, the only way to change the size of the system restore from the
>> default % is to edit the registry. I can look up the necessary
>> instructions this afternoon if you don't get it by googling for it. If I
>> remember the default is 15%.
>>
>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uCN1ic1ZIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, of course I checked out "Open System Protection", and looked all
>>> around on that page including the other tabs but there is nothing to be
>>> found there relating to disk space size allocation for System Restore.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:7C61CAB6-64D3-482C-8DF3-B98F2EDF1582@microsoft.com...
>>>> Didn't you click on the link "Open system protection"?
>>>>
>>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:esvZQ60ZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I am
>>>>> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if you
>>>>> go to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
>>>>> configuration option to be seen either way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
>>>>>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any
>>>>>> program. Any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System Restore"
>>>>>>> or a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find.
>>>>>>> Apparently it is not configurable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following
>>>>>>>> might apply
>>>>>>>> to Vista too.
>>>>>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
>>>>>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on your
>>>>>>>> hard disk.
>>>>>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
>>>>>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of
>>>>>>>>> storage is
>>>>>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by
>>>>>>>>> System
>>>>>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and
>>>>>>>>> change System
>>>>>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
>>>>>>>>> suggested. I
>>>>>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but
>>>>>>>>> there was no
>>>>>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable
>>>>>>>>> to figure
>>>>>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
>>>>>>>>> instruction as to
>>>>>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista
>>>>>>>>> Home
>>>>>>>>> Premium x64.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> > Open Explorer:
>>>>>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand
>>>>>>>>> > drives/directories one at a
>>>>>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
>>>>>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will
>>>>>>>>> > probably
>>>>>>>>> > find
>>>>>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error.
>>>>>>>>> > Just delete
>>>>>>>>> > it.
>>>>>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the
>>>>>>>>> > file pretty
>>>>>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and
>>>>>>>>> > take a
>>>>>>>>> > look.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in
>>>>>>>>> > and delete
>>>>>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
>>>>>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now.
>>>>>>>>> >> One thing
>>>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My
>>>>>>>>> >> old XP
>>>>>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
>>>>>>>>> >> transferred all
>>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but
>>>>>>>>> >> many of the
>>>>>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
>>>>>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>>>>>> >> so
>>>>>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine
>>>>>>>>> >> would be
>>>>>>>>> >> less
>>>>>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot
>>>>>>>>> >> more
>>>>>>>>> >> space
>>>>>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I
>>>>>>>>> >> checked the
>>>>>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few
>>>>>>>>> >> days
>>>>>>>>> >> later
>>>>>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
>>>>>>>>> >> loaded that
>>>>>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is
>>>>>>>>> >> showing 12.3 GB.
>>>>>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't
>>>>>>>>> >> come
>>>>>>>>> >> anywhere
>>>>>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is
>>>>>>>>> >> showing so much
>>>>>>>>> >> used space?
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

PRO

a.. Increased free space on drive
b.. Less drive fragmentation due to System Restore resizing
CON

a.. Less System Restore points
b.. Fewer previous versions of files

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:%23zSfeA3ZIHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> System restore is stored in a different key. If your subsequent restore
> points grow larger than you want, there is a key for the percentage to be
> used and another for the frequency of the automatic restore points. You
> have limited the size of the shadow copies and for now deleted your older
> restore points.
>
>
> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OpGPii2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > John, please see my reply to Mark lower down on this thread. I
> > successfully reduced the size of System Restore by following his
> > instructions.
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> >
> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> > news:eyo15e2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Ken, the only way to change the size of the system restore from the
> >> default % is to edit the registry. I can look up the necessary
> >> instructions this afternoon if you don't get it by googling for it. If

I
> >> remember the default is 15%.
> >>
> >> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uCN1ic1ZIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> Yes, of course I checked out "Open System Protection", and looked all
> >>> around on that page including the other tabs but there is nothing to

be
> >>> found there relating to disk space size allocation for System Restore.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:7C61CAB6-64D3-482C-8DF3-B98F2EDF1582@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Didn't you click on the link "Open system protection"?
> >>>>
> >>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:esvZQ60ZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I

am
> >>>>> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if

you
> >>>>> go to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
> >>>>> configuration option to be seen either way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
> >>>>>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any
> >>>>>> program. Any.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System

Restore"
> >>>>>>> or a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find.
> >>>>>>> Apparently it is not configurable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>>> Ken,
> >>>>>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following
> >>>>>>>> might apply
> >>>>>>>> to Vista too.
> >>>>>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
> >>>>>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on

your
> >>>>>>>> hard disk.
> >>>>>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
> >>>>>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
> >>>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the

files
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount

of
> >>>>>>>>> storage is
> >>>>>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by
> >>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and
> >>>>>>>>> change System
> >>>>>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
> >>>>>>>>> suggested. I
> >>>>>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but
> >>>>>>>>> there was no
> >>>>>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was

unable
> >>>>>>>>> to figure
> >>>>>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
> >>>>>>>>> instruction as to
> >>>>>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have

Vista
> >>>>>>>>> Home
> >>>>>>>>> Premium x64.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>> > Open Explorer:
> >>>>>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand
> >>>>>>>>> > drives/directories one at a
> >>>>>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
> >>>>>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will
> >>>>>>>>> > probably
> >>>>>>>>> > find
> >>>>>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error.
> >>>>>>>>> > Just delete
> >>>>>>>>> > it.
> >>>>>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the
> >>>>>>>>> > file pretty
> >>>>>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open

and
> >>>>>>>>> > take a
> >>>>>>>>> > look.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in
> >>>>>>>>> > and delete
> >>>>>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
> >>>>>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old

now.
> >>>>>>>>> >> One thing
> >>>>>>>>> > I
> >>>>>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing.

My
> >>>>>>>>> >> old XP
> >>>>>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
> >>>>>>>>> >> transferred all
> >>>>>>>>> > the
> >>>>>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but
> >>>>>>>>> >> many of the
> >>>>>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the

new
> >>>>>>>>> >> machine,
> >>>>>>>>> >> so
> >>>>>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine
> >>>>>>>>> >> would be
> >>>>>>>>> >> less
> >>>>>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a

lot
> >>>>>>>>> >> more
> >>>>>>>>> >> space
> >>>>>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the

reason.
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I
> >>>>>>>>> >> checked the
> >>>>>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A

few
> >>>>>>>>> >> days
> >>>>>>>>> >> later
> >>>>>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
> >>>>>>>>> >> loaded that
> >>>>>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is
> >>>>>>>>> >> showing 12.3 GB.
> >>>>>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't
> >>>>>>>>> >> come
> >>>>>>>>> >> anywhere
> >>>>>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is
> >>>>>>>>> >> showing so much
> >>>>>>>>> >> used space?
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa378955(VS.85).aspx

(If you want to get specific in the registry and only affect Restore Point
size. But, rolling back more than one driver or restore point is usually
worthless. It's better to go to a backup.)

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:%23zSfeA3ZIHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> System restore is stored in a different key. If your subsequent restore
> points grow larger than you want, there is a key for the percentage to be
> used and another for the frequency of the automatic restore points. You
> have limited the size of the shadow copies and for now deleted your older
> restore points.
>
>
> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OpGPii2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > John, please see my reply to Mark lower down on this thread. I
> > successfully reduced the size of System Restore by following his
> > instructions.
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> >
> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> > news:eyo15e2ZIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Ken, the only way to change the size of the system restore from the
> >> default % is to edit the registry. I can look up the necessary
> >> instructions this afternoon if you don't get it by googling for it. If

I
> >> remember the default is 15%.
> >>
> >> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uCN1ic1ZIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> Yes, of course I checked out "Open System Protection", and looked all
> >>> around on that page including the other tabs but there is nothing to

be
> >>> found there relating to disk space size allocation for System Restore.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:7C61CAB6-64D3-482C-8DF3-B98F2EDF1582@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Didn't you click on the link "Open system protection"?
> >>>>
> >>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:esvZQ60ZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> When I type System Restore in the Start/Search box and hit enter I

am
> >>>>> taken to the same System Restore dialog box that you would get if

you
> >>>>> go to it in All Programs, Accessories, System Tools. There is no
> >>>>> configuration option to be seen either way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:9AC9F052-6B8C-4C0E-90BB-FCBE2E56F2CA@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>> Yes it is. Did you try simply typing "system restore" in the
> >>>>>> Start/Search box and hitting enter? That works for almost any
> >>>>>> program. Any.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:u8eOop0ZIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Carlos, but there is nothing like "Configure System

Restore"
> >>>>>>> or a slider for disk space size in Vista that I could find.
> >>>>>>> Apparently it is not configurable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:5FC83340-8502-470E-9103-D0573A54AF77@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>>> Ken,
> >>>>>>>> I am right in front of my XP machine at work and the following
> >>>>>>>> might apply
> >>>>>>>> to Vista too.
> >>>>>>>> Fire up system restore and click on "Configure System Restore"
> >>>>>>>> There is a slider to assign how much space you devote to it on

your
> >>>>>>>> hard disk.
> >>>>>>>> Then again, this is how XP does it.
> >>>>>>>> I will have to wait to get back home and see how Vista does it.
> >>>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Ken Triebold" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the

files
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount

of
> >>>>>>>>> storage is
> >>>>>>>>> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by
> >>>>>>>>> System
> >>>>>>>>> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and
> >>>>>>>>> change System
> >>>>>>>>> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
> >>>>>>>>> suggested. I
> >>>>>>>>> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but
> >>>>>>>>> there was no
> >>>>>>>>> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was

unable
> >>>>>>>>> to figure
> >>>>>>>>> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any
> >>>>>>>>> instruction as to
> >>>>>>>>> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have

Vista
> >>>>>>>>> Home
> >>>>>>>>> Premium x64.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>> > Open Explorer:
> >>>>>>>>> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand
> >>>>>>>>> > drives/directories one at a
> >>>>>>>>> > time chasing only the largest.
> >>>>>>>>> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will
> >>>>>>>>> > probably
> >>>>>>>>> > find
> >>>>>>>>> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error.
> >>>>>>>>> > Just delete
> >>>>>>>>> > it.
> >>>>>>>>> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the
> >>>>>>>>> > file pretty
> >>>>>>>>> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open

and
> >>>>>>>>> > take a
> >>>>>>>>> > look.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in
> >>>>>>>>> > and delete
> >>>>>>>>> > all but the most recent restore.
> >>>>>>>>> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old

now.
> >>>>>>>>> >> One thing
> >>>>>>>>> > I
> >>>>>>>>> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing.

My
> >>>>>>>>> >> old XP
> >>>>>>>>> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I
> >>>>>>>>> >> transferred all
> >>>>>>>>> > the
> >>>>>>>>> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but
> >>>>>>>>> >> many of the
> >>>>>>>>> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the

new
> >>>>>>>>> >> machine,
> >>>>>>>>> >> so
> >>>>>>>>> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine
> >>>>>>>>> >> would be
> >>>>>>>>> >> less
> >>>>>>>>> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a

lot
> >>>>>>>>> >> more
> >>>>>>>>> >> space
> >>>>>>>>> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the

reason.
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I
> >>>>>>>>> >> checked the
> >>>>>>>>> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A

few
> >>>>>>>>> >> days
> >>>>>>>>> >> later
> >>>>>>>>> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not
> >>>>>>>>> >> loaded that
> >>>>>>>>> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is
> >>>>>>>>> >> showing 12.3 GB.
> >>>>>>>>> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't
> >>>>>>>>> >> come
> >>>>>>>>> >> anywhere
> >>>>>>>>> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is
> >>>>>>>>> >> showing so much
> >>>>>>>>> >> used space?
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

If you want to set these in the registry (now that your system is under
control of the user):

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\Cfg\DiskPerce
nt
Default = 15
Change to = 3 (for 15 GB: 3% of 500GB)

(Note: John Barnes is giving the impression that Shadow Copies have a
different registry key than Restore Points.
I believe they use the same area. That's why vssadmin changes
both in one command.
There are other registry entries that allow you to specify what
Shadow Copy excludes.
But, they are under
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot)

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\RPGlobalInter
val
Default = 86,400 (that's 24 hours in seconds)
Change to whatever suits you. Note: Recommend less frequent if you are
not changing much very often.

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore\RPLifeInterva
l
Default = 4,294,967,295 (that's 136 years)
Change to = 7,776,000 (90 days)



"Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u9pdg21ZIHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mark, your instruction was very helpful.
>
> First I ran vssadmin List ShadowStorage to see what my current setup was.
> Here is what I found (with values abbreviated for simplicity):
> used 44GB
> Allocated 46GB
> Maximum 69GB
> The total used space on C: at this time was 63.7GB.
>
> Then I resized ShadowStorage for 3GB and ran List ShadowStorage again.

Here
> is what I found:
> used 0B
> Allocated 0B
> Maximum 3GB
> The total used space on C: was now 17.2GB, so it clearly worked in

reducing
> my used space on C:.
>
> Since the used and allocated space were shown as zero, I figured there

must
> be no Restore Points in the system. I checked System Restore, and sure
> enough, all of the old restore points were gone. I then manually made one
> restore point and confirmed that it showed up in System Restore. I then
> checked the used space on C: and found it to be 17.5GB, so the used space
> grew by 0.3GB with one restore point.
>
> this all seems just fine right now. I will keep an eye on the used space

in
> C: and also look for automatically-created restore points as time passes
> just to make sure things proceed as they should.
>
> Thanks a lot for your assistance.
>
> -Ken
>
>
> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:OoPiOO1ZIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > From an elevated CMD prompt:
> > vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /on=[drive letter]: /For=[drive letter]:
> > /Maxsize=[maximum size]
> >
> > MaxSize must be 300MB or greater and accepts the following suffixes: KB,
> > MB,
> > GB, TB, PB and EB. If a suffix is not supplied, MaxSize is in bytes. If
> > MaxSize is not specified, then there will be no limit to the amount of
> > space
> > it may use.
> >
> > For example, if you want System Restore to use a maximum of 3GB of space
> > for
> > the restore points on drive "C:", you should type the following:
> > vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /On=C: /For=C: /Maxsize=3GB
> > (Note: Resizing the storage association may cause shadow copies to
> > disappear!)
> >
> > For other information:
> > Type vssadmin /? and press Enter to see the list of available options.
> >
> > e.g.
> > If you want to know how much space has been allocated and the maximum
> > amount
> > of space that can be used by System Restore type the following command:
> > vssadmin List ShadowStorage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eyMqFrzZIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files and
> >> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of

storage
> > is
> >> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by System
> >> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and change

> > System
> >> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
> >> suggested.

> > I
> >> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but there

was
> > no
> >> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable to

> > figure
> >> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any instruction

as
> > to
> >> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista Home
> >> Premium x64.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Open Explorer:
> >> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories one
> >> > at

> > a
> >> > time chasing only the largest.
> >> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will

probably
> >> > find
> >> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error. Just

> > delete
> >> > it.
> >> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
> >> > pretty
> >> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and take

a
> >> > look.
> >> >
> >> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in and

> > delete
> >> > all but the most recent restore.
> >> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now. One

> > thing
> >> > I
> >> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My old

XP
> >> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I transferred
> >> >> all
> >> > the
> >> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but many of

> > the
> >> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
> >> >> machine,
> >> >> so
> >> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine would

be
> >> >> less
> >> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot more
> >> >> space
> >> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I checked

the
> >> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few days
> >> >> later
> >> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not loaded

> > that
> >> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing

12.3
> > GB.
> >> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't come
> >> >> anywhere
> >> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is showing so

> > much
> >> >> used space?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >

>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

Ken,
Sorry for jumping in late.
Here's the web page were you will find a detailed description of the method.
http://www.petri.co.il/change_amount_of_disk_space_used_by_system_restore_in_vista.htm
Glad you could sort it out with Mark's help.
Carlos

"Ken Triebold" wrote:

> Mark, your instruction was very helpful.
>
> First I ran vssadmin List ShadowStorage to see what my current setup was.
> Here is what I found (with values abbreviated for simplicity):
> used 44GB
> Allocated 46GB
> Maximum 69GB
> The total used space on C: at this time was 63.7GB.
>
> Then I resized ShadowStorage for 3GB and ran List ShadowStorage again. Here
> is what I found:
> used 0B
> Allocated 0B
> Maximum 3GB
> The total used space on C: was now 17.2GB, so it clearly worked in reducing
> my used space on C:.
>
> Since the used and allocated space were shown as zero, I figured there must
> be no Restore Points in the system. I checked System Restore, and sure
> enough, all of the old restore points were gone. I then manually made one
> restore point and confirmed that it showed up in System Restore. I then
> checked the used space on C: and found it to be 17.5GB, so the used space
> grew by 0.3GB with one restore point.
>
> this all seems just fine right now. I will keep an eye on the used space in
> C: and also look for automatically-created restore points as time passes
> just to make sure things proceed as they should.
>
> Thanks a lot for your assistance.
>
> -Ken
>
>
> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:OoPiOO1ZIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > From an elevated CMD prompt:
> > vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /on=[drive letter]: /For=[drive letter]:
> > /Maxsize=[maximum size]
> >
> > MaxSize must be 300MB or greater and accepts the following suffixes: KB,
> > MB,
> > GB, TB, PB and EB. If a suffix is not supplied, MaxSize is in bytes. If
> > MaxSize is not specified, then there will be no limit to the amount of
> > space
> > it may use.
> >
> > For example, if you want System Restore to use a maximum of 3GB of space
> > for
> > the restore points on drive "C:", you should type the following:
> > vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /On=C: /For=C: /Maxsize=3GB
> > (Note: Resizing the storage association may cause shadow copies to
> > disappear!)
> >
> > For other information:
> > Type vssadmin /? and press Enter to see the list of available options.
> >
> > e.g.
> > If you want to know how much space has been allocated and the maximum
> > amount
> > of space that can be used by System Restore type the following command:
> > vssadmin List ShadowStorage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eyMqFrzZIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Mark, The C: drive is the culprit, but an examination of the files and
> >> folders in C do not reveal specifically where this huge amount of storage

> > is
> >> being taken up. For that reason I believe it is being used by System
> >> Restore. I would like to delete most of the restore points and change

> > System
> >> Restore so as not to create restore points so frequently as you
> >> suggested.

> > I
> >> looked into Windows Help to find out how to do these things but there was

> > no
> >> information on it. I also went into System Restore and was unable to

> > figure
> >> out how to do these things there either. Can you offer any instruction as

> > to
> >> how I can follow through with your suggestions? Note: I have Vista Home
> >> Premium x64.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OYZ$E6yZIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Open Explorer:
> >> > Turn on File Details in Explorer and expand drives/directories one
> >> > at

> > a
> >> > time chasing only the largest.
> >> > A 62 GB directory or 40 GB file should stand out. You will probably
> >> > find
> >> > a simple text file that is recording a lot of the same error. Just

> > delete
> >> > it.
> >> > If it is an error occurring, it will start re-writing the file
> >> > pretty
> >> > quickly. Being much smaller now, it won't be so hard to open and take a
> >> > look.
> >> >
> >> > If it is System Restore and your system is running okay, go in and

> > delete
> >> > all but the most recent restore.
> >> > You can limit System Restore once you are down to one file.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ken Triebold" <triebold@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23TDndIoZIHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> My new Vista Home Premium x64 computer is about a week old now. One

> > thing
> >> > I
> >> >> noticed is that the used space in the C drive keeps growing. My old XP
> >> >> machine had about 12 GB of used space (out of 40 GB). I transferred
> >> >> all
> >> > the
> >> >> files and folders from that machine to this new machine, but many of

> > the
> >> >> programs in the old machine have not been installed in the new
> >> >> machine,
> >> >> so
> >> >> if anything, I might expect the used space on my new machine would be
> >> >> less
> >> >> than 12 GB. Now it is possible that Vista itself takes up a lot more
> >> >> space
> >> >> than XP did, so that could be part, but not all of the reason.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway shortly after installing Vista on the new machine I checked the
> >> >> amount of used space and it showed 12 GB (out of 500 GB). A few days
> >> >> later
> >> >> it was at 30 GB and now it is at 62.5 GB. Holy cow I have not loaded

> > that
> >> >> much stuff on this drive. The C:\Windows folder alone is showing 12.3

> > GB.
> >> >> When I add in the rest of the folders on the C drive I don't come
> >> >> anywhere
> >> >> near 62.5 GB. Does anyone have any idea why my C drive is showing so

> > much
> >> >> used space?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: Used Space in C: Keeps Growing

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
> Reason #27 for why I install ALL OS's to reasonable sized partitions and
> then put everything else on a different volume. My Vista volumes are
> never more than about 60 GB total, and that forces Vista to be
> reasonable about storage.
>


An operating system artificially intelligent to make "reasonable"
storage decisions??? Methinks it's time to lay down the crack pipe ;)
 
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