A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Dave H · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

I see he entered dogagent, for instance, at 13:54:52 GMT+1
and what news groups he entered too.

Dave H

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:A8DDD297-9942-483E-86E2-092B5F1A78E8@microsoft.com...
> That is the very same guy, not quite banned but has a small posting
> window.
> (for the moment)
> To do this, I can search massive log files in seconds, then My Nose comes
> into play.
>
> Dave H
>
> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NrZLbe0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> this is the same BD that has thrown his accusations into my own very
>> small
>> group on DogAgent?
>> the same who was reduced to only posting to a Moderated group?
>> the same who has now been effectively beamed away from DogAgent entirely?
>> /me chuckles.
>> thanks for all you do, Dave!
>> HUGS!
>> TL
>>
>>
>> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23CTOsNe0HHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Kerry, without knowing you, I trust you also. I see on Communities MS has
>> bestowed you with an MVP icon, that's good enough for me.
>> Also Peter Foldes and Derek Feldman I would consider trustworthy.
>> Incidentally, someone, also called Boater Dave, is spouting paranoid
>> things
>> on my own private server.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:E1736F4A-914C-4C90-84B6-D083A5C00AE6@microsoft.com...
>>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>>> news:u4zdkZS0HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> I tell you why you should "trust" Peter.
>>>>
>>>> Because Peter Foldes *IS* trustworthy and I back what he has written in
>>>> this thread.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave
>>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>>>> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As do I, but David doesn't trust me either. He has in the past accused
>>> me
>>> of being a terrorist. His posts are best ignored. If he gets you in his
>>> sites he will follow you around Usenet and web forums casting aspersions
>>> on your character. In my case he was suspicious because I use the
>>> nickname
>>> TechB in some online web forums and my real name on Usenet. In his
>>> twisted, paranoid logic somehow this equated to me being linked to
>>> terrorism.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerry Brown
>>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Troll_Lady · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

<BG>
you left it so he can read but not post?
/me chuckles. good!
ok, i'll keep an eye on the bd moderated for a another day or so.
think he'll ever apologize to me for what he said about my Mother?
hugs,
TL

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:E45FB40B-D5FE-45F3-ADB0-0EEC24A31F03@microsoft.com...
I see he entered dogagent, for instance, at 13:54:52 GMT+1
and what news groups he entered too.

Dave H

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:A8DDD297-9942-483E-86E2-092B5F1A78E8@microsoft.com...
> That is the very same guy, not quite banned but has a small posting
> window.
> (for the moment)
> To do this, I can search massive log files in seconds, then My Nose comes
> into play.
>
> Dave H
>
> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NrZLbe0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> this is the same BD that has thrown his accusations into my own very
>> small
>> group on DogAgent?
>> the same who was reduced to only posting to a Moderated group?
>> the same who has now been effectively beamed away from DogAgent entirely?
>> /me chuckles.
>> thanks for all you do, Dave!
>> HUGS!
>> TL
>>
>>
>> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23CTOsNe0HHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Kerry, without knowing you, I trust you also. I see on Communities MS has
>> bestowed you with an MVP icon, that's good enough for me.
>> Also Peter Foldes and Derek Feldman I would consider trustworthy.
>> Incidentally, someone, also called Boater Dave, is spouting paranoid
>> things
>> on my own private server.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:E1736F4A-914C-4C90-84B6-D083A5C00AE6@microsoft.com...
>>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>>> news:u4zdkZS0HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> I tell you why you should "trust" Peter.
>>>>
>>>> Because Peter Foldes *IS* trustworthy and I back what he has written in
>>>> this thread.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave
>>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>>>> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As do I, but David doesn't trust me either. He has in the past accused
>>> me
>>> of being a terrorist. His posts are best ignored. If he gets you in his
>>> sites he will follow you around Usenet and web forums casting aspersions
>>> on your character. In my case he was suspicious because I use the
>>> nickname
>>> TechB in some online web forums and my real name on Usenet. In his
>>> twisted, paranoid logic somehow this equated to me being linked to
>>> terrorism.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerry Brown
>>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

BoaterDave · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Hello Dave

I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?

Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when you
say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a veiled
threat.

You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much room
for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the Annexcafe
sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North America for
starters. If you want more background, go here:

http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times! Whilst
there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far more good
and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

HTH

David

PS Tail left deliberately this time.

******************************************************************************************

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:%237B1pBe0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I see what you are driving at, David.
> Maybe they are educated, and making educated guesses?
> Or maybe you should look into reasons why they stretch to doing this.
> Are you being a nuisance, making ridiculous claims, defaming or following
> people onto other groups or servers? Those sort of things would do it.
>
> BTW, when you enter a server like this, or another private nntp server,
> you are dipping into their computer, they are allowing you to that.
> Now I know what you are thinking, can the give you a virus or infection
> via a download or link. No doubt it is possible, but then again many
> people would also have done the same thing as you, and would be howling
> for blood.
> Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you should
> leave well alone?
>
> Now I run a private nntp server myself, done for just for the pleasure of
> sharing, and knowing I can run a safe (as any can be) place, and would
> find it insulting that you would consider myself, or any visitors, were
> tricking you to install something. I would have to ban you for such
> thoughts, or make it so you can't post such disruptive/paranoid things to
> upset a community. I would also ban anyone that harmed another's computer,
> or at least prevent them from posting.
>
> Dave H
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>> trouble you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>
>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>
>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed. Whilst
>> I fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>> one's PC?
>>
>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>
>> David
>>
>> ******************************************************************************************************
>> "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:Wwqqi.12398$Od7.11531@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>> | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However, that does
>>> *not*
>>> | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP addresses
>>> when
>>> | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when folk
>>> visit
>>> | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't really
>>> you?
>>> | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice given - how
>>> easy
>>> | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So I ask
>>> you
>>> once
>>> | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your IP
>>> address.
>>> _____
>>>
>>> In the main, for DSL, an IP address is assigned dynamically to a
>>> customer.
>>> Each time a system (or for some setups the modem) connects to the ISP,
>>> the
>>> ISP assigns a new IP address from the block allocated to the ISP. A
>>> static
>>> IP address costs extra. If, for example, you were to examine the
>>> headers
>>> for my posts to this newsgroup, you would usually see a different IP
>>> address
>>> on posts from different days. Each IP address would be picked more or
>>> less
>>> at random from the block assigned to the ISP. With a large IP like
>>> mine,
>>> that would be from a address space of millions. If you look at my posts
>>> with time stamps more than a few days apart the IP address is different.
>>> The IP address associated with your post is from the block assigned to
>>> AOL
>>> (172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255), an IP address space of just over
>>> 1,500,000.
>>> My current IP address is as I make this post is 208.187.80.135. If I
>>> disconnect my DSL modem, and post again, the IP address in that second
>>> post
>>> will be different. So newsgroup identities are exactly as you thought.
>>>
>>> There is no way to identify a newsgroup poster from the IP address in
>>> the
>>> post headers, even if the headers are completely legitimate without the
>>> cooperation of the ISP because you need the records the ISP keeps to
>>> match
>>> an IP address with the customer AT THE TIME THE POST WAS MADE. Even if
>>> the
>>> customers IP address is static, though you might assume the identity of
>>> the
>>> poster, you'd still need the account records. This should take a court
>>> order or a 'national security letter' these days.
>>>
>>> Some naive trolls who use different sock puppet posting names are
>>> exposed
>>> when [they post from a small ISP (because the pool of ISP addresses is
>>> small) or when they post from a static IP address] AND the style is
>>> suspiciously similar. But that is just exposure of sock puppets, NOT
>>> actually matching a real identity to a post.
>>>
>>> As for your original question, which I think is about Panda nanoscan
>>> (ALL
>>> the information for a newsgroup post should be in the BODY of the
>>> message -
>>> the 'Subject' line should be a short phrase to indicate the content of
>>> the
>>> message). My thoughts on Panda nanoscan: there is no compelling reason
>>> to
>>> try it. On the down side it is 'Beta' (may have bugs, is not ready for
>>> release, is at present for Panda's benefit, not the user's benefit), it
>>> can't be very thorough in 20 seconds, requires installing active-x
>>> controls,
>>> really gives no assurance that the scanned system is clean, and requires
>>> an
>>> active connection to the internet. On the up side, it is very quick.
>>>
>>> Phil Weldon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uj8F0CF0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | In-line responses
>>> |
>>> | "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> | news:OCx$NTE0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> | Sorry Dave . But I cannot comment on your request since I am not
>>> familiar
>>> at
>>> | all with the Panda software. Maybe someone will come along soon that
>>> can
>>> | comment on your question.
>>> |
>>> | **Thanks for your straight-forward reply, Peter. I'll wait patiently!
>>>

>>> |
>>> | As far as IP addresses go you do know that they can be spoofed and
>>> some
>>> | people do it .
>>> | You have been in a similar situation yourself when you had your ID
>>> stolen
>>> in
>>> | the past so you know what kind of situation it can create
>>> |
>>> | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However, that does
>>> *not*
>>> | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP addresses
>>> when
>>> | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when folk
>>> visit
>>> | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't really
>>> you?
>>> | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice given - how
>>> easy
>>> | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So I ask
>>> you
>>> once
>>> | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your IP
>>> address.
>>> |
>>> | BD
>>> |
>>> |
>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>> |
>>> | "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | news:%23%23FF5pA0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > Hello Peter! Thank you for the reminder.
>>> | >
>>> | > It would, though, have been even more helpful had you also given
>>> your
>>> view
>>> | > on the new facility from Panda as I'd requested.
>>> | >
>>> | > Whilst I'm here I noted that your IP address is currently
>>> 64.228.81.234
>>> | > Having checked your other posts on this group since 31 May, each IP
>>> | > address
>>> | > is different (save for on 5 July when 3 replies were made on the
>>> same
>>> | > day).
>>> | > The previous training given by you - to me - suggested that an IP
>>> address
>>> | > may be used to identify a particular poster. Others posting here
>>> *do*
>>> | > maintain the same IP address. Will you, please, explain why yours
>>> changes?
>>> | >
>>> | > An additional query. On a separate newsgroup, on a private server,
>>> the
>>> IP
>>> | > address of a poster is shown as 127.0.0.1, viz:-
>>> | >
>>> | > X-Trace: dogagent.com 1185373384 26976 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul 2007
>>> 14:23:04
>>> | > GMT)
>>> | >
>>> | > I'd be grateful if you, or anyone else knowledgeable on such
>>> matters,
>>> | > would
>>> | > comment on this. Thank you.
>>> | >
>>> | > David
>>> | >
>>> | > ***************************************
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> | > news:%23e7LSG$zHHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> | > multiposted not crossposted. Even worse
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> | > --
>>> | > Peter
>>> | >
>>> | > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> | > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>>> acknowledged.
>>> | >
>>> | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | > news:uRDXih8zHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | >> Forgive the cross-post but, on reflection, I felt this might be a
>>> more
>>> | >> appropriate place to ask this question!
>>> | >>
>>> | >> Hi - just wondering is any of the gurus here have tried it and
>>> might
>>> wish
>>> | >> to
>>> | >> comment: See: http://www.nanoscan.com/
>>> | >>
>>> | >> David

BoaterDave · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Thank you for following me her, Li. - I MUST be /really/ important for you
so to do.
Perhaps you'll read and take in my response to Dave Higham and - just
possibly - understand.
This server is not a place to chat. Sorry.

BD
________________________________________________________________________

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uBkHIDg0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> <BG>
> you left it so he can read but not post?
> /me chuckles. good!
> ok, i'll keep an eye on the bd moderated for a another day or so.
> think he'll ever apologize to me for what he said about my Mother?
> hugs,
> TL
>
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:E45FB40B-D5FE-45F3-ADB0-0EEC24A31F03@microsoft.com...
> I see he entered dogagent, for instance, at 13:54:52 GMT+1
> and what news groups he entered too.
>
> Dave H
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:A8DDD297-9942-483E-86E2-092B5F1A78E8@microsoft.com...
>> That is the very same guy, not quite banned but has a small posting
>> window.
>> (for the moment)
>> To do this, I can search massive log files in seconds, then My Nose comes
>> into play.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23NrZLbe0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> this is the same BD that has thrown his accusations into my own very
>>> small
>>> group on DogAgent?
>>> the same who was reduced to only posting to a Moderated group?
>>> the same who has now been effectively beamed away from DogAgent
>>> entirely?
>>> /me chuckles.
>>> thanks for all you do, Dave!
>>> HUGS!
>>> TL
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23CTOsNe0HHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Kerry, without knowing you, I trust you also. I see on Communities MS
>>> has
>>> bestowed you with an MVP icon, that's good enough for me.
>>> Also Peter Foldes and Derek Feldman I would consider trustworthy.
>>> Incidentally, someone, also called Boater Dave, is spouting paranoid
>>> things
>>> on my own private server.
>>>
>>> Dave H
>>>
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>> news:E1736F4A-914C-4C90-84B6-D083A5C00AE6@microsoft.com...
>>>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>>>> news:u4zdkZS0HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> I tell you why you should "trust" Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because Peter Foldes *IS* trustworthy and I back what he has written
>>>>> in
>>>>> this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>>>>> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As do I, but David doesn't trust me either. He has in the past accused
>>>> me
>>>> of being a terrorist. His posts are best ignored. If he gets you in his
>>>> sites he will follow you around Usenet and web forums casting
>>>> aspersions
>>>> on your character. In my case he was suspicious because I use the
>>>> nickname
>>>> TechB in some online web forums and my real name on Usenet. In his
>>>> twisted, paranoid logic somehow this equated to me being linked to
>>>> terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kerry Brown
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

BoaterDave · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

I care Fitz - I am dead against the bad guys. Have you never even considered
where the viruses and spyware come from? If /everyone/ buries their head in
the sand, the actual perpetrators of malware will *never* be caught. Life
is, indeed, short. Eradication of those who seek to do us harm is, in my
book, a worthwhile cause. If /you/ don't care, don't read the thread.

BD
___________________________________________________________________________________
"---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:46abbca8$0$12183$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Really...WHO CARES? This is a newsgroup about .security.virus, not who
> you can trust on usenet. Simple, short answer, don't trust anyone. If
> you've been "tracking" someone for 18 months then you are fixated on them.
> Life's too short for that crap and this thread is too long for this crap.
> Case closed.
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Os%23UoVU0HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Are you telling me that the Peter who posted on Annexcafe is *not* the
>> same person?
>>
>> If you are, I'd be very interested to learn exactly *how* you know this,
>> David.
>>
>> David
>>
>> *****************************************************************
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> news:%23fgKr2T0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> From: "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid>
>>>
>>> | That's good to know, David. Phil appears genuine and I have no reason
>>> to
>>> | think otherwise.
>>> |
>>> | OTOH - Peter Foldes has been tracked by me for well over 18 months.
>>> |
>>> | David
>>> |
>>>
>>> There is absolutely ZERO reason to track (stalk ?) Peter.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>>> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Dave H · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

This is not a debate group, David.

I have been on many MS groups, and community for a long while.

What was meant was if you don't like what goes on, or the people, on private
servers, keep out of them.

Especially if they asked you to leave.

You are the intruder/virus/Trojan, with your "Crusading", attacking good
people.

If you were better informed, what you do would be offensive, pretty sure you
will get ignored more.

Calling Peter a liar is rather strong, he was probably using some web tool
to trace your IP address when you were doing some annoying.

If that was wrong, call me a liar too.

Peter probably has a lot more patience than me, very quickly I am tiring of
reasoning and explaining things to you.

Dave H

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Dave
>
> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>
> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
> you say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this,
> you should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
> veiled threat.
>
> You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
> is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
> polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much
> room for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the
> Annexcafe sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North
> America for starters. If you want more background, go here:
>
> http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>
> When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times!
> Whilst there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far
> more good and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

>
> HTH
>
> David
>

Troll_Lady · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

ah, you own this server and want me to leave?
sure thing!
i'm a nice guest, whatever server i'm on!
see ya' later!
TL

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23aGawPg0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Thank you for following me her, Li. - I MUST be /really/ important for you
so to do.
Perhaps you'll read and take in my response to Dave Higham and - just
possibly - understand.
This server is not a place to chat. Sorry.

BD
________________________________________________________________________

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uBkHIDg0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> <BG>
> you left it so he can read but not post?
> /me chuckles. good!
> ok, i'll keep an eye on the bd moderated for a another day or so.
> think he'll ever apologize to me for what he said about my Mother?
> hugs,
> TL
>
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:E45FB40B-D5FE-45F3-ADB0-0EEC24A31F03@microsoft.com...
> I see he entered dogagent, for instance, at 13:54:52 GMT+1
> and what news groups he entered too.
>
> Dave H
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:A8DDD297-9942-483E-86E2-092B5F1A78E8@microsoft.com...
>> That is the very same guy, not quite banned but has a small posting
>> window.
>> (for the moment)
>> To do this, I can search massive log files in seconds, then My Nose comes
>> into play.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23NrZLbe0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> this is the same BD that has thrown his accusations into my own very
>>> small
>>> group on DogAgent?
>>> the same who was reduced to only posting to a Moderated group?
>>> the same who has now been effectively beamed away from DogAgent
>>> entirely?
>>> /me chuckles.
>>> thanks for all you do, Dave!
>>> HUGS!
>>> TL
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23CTOsNe0HHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Kerry, without knowing you, I trust you also. I see on Communities MS
>>> has
>>> bestowed you with an MVP icon, that's good enough for me.
>>> Also Peter Foldes and Derek Feldman I would consider trustworthy.
>>> Incidentally, someone, also called Boater Dave, is spouting paranoid
>>> things
>>> on my own private server.
>>>
>>> Dave H

Troll_Lady · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

darn it, BD.
i'm not changing my properties but as an Admin on Annexcafe, i will inform
everyone that you are banned from that private server also.
you should leave these nice folks alone to help others that really need it
and go play in your own group that Dave H. so kindly gave you.
TrolLi
Asst. Admin
AdminTeam
www.annexcafe.com

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Hello Dave

I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?

Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when you
say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a veiled
threat.

You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much room
for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the Annexcafe
sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North America for
starters. If you want more background, go here:

http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times! Whilst
there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far more good
and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

HTH

David

PS Tail left deliberately this time.

******************************************************************************************

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:%237B1pBe0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I see what you are driving at, David.
> Maybe they are educated, and making educated guesses?
> Or maybe you should look into reasons why they stretch to doing this.
> Are you being a nuisance, making ridiculous claims, defaming or following
> people onto other groups or servers? Those sort of things would do it.
>
> BTW, when you enter a server like this, or another private nntp server,
> you are dipping into their computer, they are allowing you to that.
> Now I know what you are thinking, can the give you a virus or infection
> via a download or link. No doubt it is possible, but then again many
> people would also have done the same thing as you, and would be howling
> for blood.
> Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you should
> leave well alone?
>
> Now I run a private nntp server myself, done for just for the pleasure of
> sharing, and knowing I can run a safe (as any can be) place, and would
> find it insulting that you would consider myself, or any visitors, were
> tricking you to install something. I would have to ban you for such
> thoughts, or make it so you can't post such disruptive/paranoid things to
> upset a community. I would also ban anyone that harmed another's computer,
> or at least prevent them from posting.
>
> Dave H
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>> trouble you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>
>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>
>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed. Whilst
>> I fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>> one's PC?
>>
>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>
>> David
>>
>> ******************************************************************************************************

BoaterDave · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Do you realise, Dave, that it was because of replies like this that I was
determined to learn more about modern-day threats.. When I first started to
learn about computers they hadn't even invented the transistor - diodes were
as advanced then. Some of the computers I maintained were 100% mechanical
(worms, pinions and electric motors) whilst the others all used thermionic
valves. It is a BIG mistake to believe that just because someone has not
been playing in newsgroups that they have little or no intelligence,

I know *exactly* what I have been doing. YOU, on the other hand, have *not*
been staight-forward and honest. I asked you HOW you found me here - and you
completely ignored my question. Good people have absolutely nothing to fear
from me. Peter refuses at every stage to answer my questions. He is a big
boy (whoever he is) and would be, I'm sure, quite capable of standing up for
himself if he was honest and true (which, as you know, I doubt). No-one I've
ever met 'in the flesh' so to speak, has ever referred to the loss of my son
as 'frustrating' - the term used by Mr Foldes. That was a red rag to a bull.
You and I have absolutely no idea who this poster is ........ and no-one
else seems in the least bit concerned. Well I am - and will continue with
this 'crusading' (as you call it) until I am satisfied that nothing untoward
is happening on Annexcafe.

I thought I'd turned a corner after I'd trashed my suspected (infected) PC
and continued posting as 'beady'. I thought that I'd played by the rules but
then, suddenly, out of the blue, Li banned me again. When I asked why, I was
belittled and purported to be a fool. There is, whether you realise it or
not, something amiss. If there are people involved in malicious practices
*anywhere*, believe me, they /will/ be pursued!

As I've said already, this is *not* a game. It is in deadly earnest. So now
you know.

David
______________________________________________________________________________________

"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:uVrUVjg0HHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> This is not a debate group, David.
>
> I have been on many MS groups, and community for a long while.
>
> What was meant was if you don't like what goes on, or the people, on
> private servers, keep out of them.
>
> Especially if they asked you to leave.
>
> You are the intruder/virus/Trojan, with your "Crusading", attacking good
> people.
>
> If you were better informed, what you do would be offensive, pretty sure
> you will get ignored more.
>
>
>
> Calling Peter a liar is rather strong, he was probably using some web tool
> to trace your IP address when you were doing some annoying.
>
> If that was wrong, call me a liar too.
>
> Peter probably has a lot more patience than me, very quickly I am tiring
> of reasoning and explaining things to you.
>
>
>
> Dave H
>
>
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello Dave
>>
>> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
>> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>>
>> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
>> you say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this,
>> you should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
>> veiled threat.
>>
>> You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter
>> Foldes is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer
>> simple, polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it
>> leaves much room for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has
>> posted on the Annexcafe sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived
>> in North America for starters. If you want more background, go here:
>>
>> http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>>
>> When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times!
>> Whilst there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far
>> more good and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

>>
>> HTH
>>
>> David
>>

BoaterDave · Jul 29, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Are you frightened of me Li? What could I possible do to worry 'the
management' at Annexcafe.com.

Simply following me here is a concern for me (and others too? I can but
hope!).

David
_____________________________________________________________________________
"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uWQzxFh0HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> darn it, BD.
> i'm not changing my properties but as an Admin on Annexcafe, i will inform
> everyone that you are banned from that private server also.
> you should leave these nice folks alone to help others that really need it
> and go play in your own group that Dave H. so kindly gave you.
> TrolLi
> Asst. Admin
> AdminTeam
> www.annexcafe.com
>
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Dave
>
> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>
> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
> you
> say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
> should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
> veiled
> threat.
>
> You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
> is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
> polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much
> room
> for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the
> Annexcafe
> sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North America for
> starters. If you want more background, go here:
>
> http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>
> When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times!
> Whilst
> there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far more
> good
> and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

>
> HTH
>
> David
>
> PS Tail left deliberately this time.
>
> ******************************************************************************************
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:%237B1pBe0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I see what you are driving at, David.
>> Maybe they are educated, and making educated guesses?
>> Or maybe you should look into reasons why they stretch to doing this.
>> Are you being a nuisance, making ridiculous claims, defaming or following
>> people onto other groups or servers? Those sort of things would do it.
>>
>> BTW, when you enter a server like this, or another private nntp server,
>> you are dipping into their computer, they are allowing you to that.
>> Now I know what you are thinking, can the give you a virus or infection
>> via a download or link. No doubt it is possible, but then again many
>> people would also have done the same thing as you, and would be howling
>> for blood.
>> Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you should
>> leave well alone?
>>
>> Now I run a private nntp server myself, done for just for the pleasure of
>> sharing, and knowing I can run a safe (as any can be) place, and would
>> find it insulting that you would consider myself, or any visitors, were
>> tricking you to install something. I would have to ban you for such
>> thoughts, or make it so you can't post such disruptive/paranoid things to
>> upset a community. I would also ban anyone that harmed another's
>> computer,
>> or at least prevent them from posting.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>>> trouble you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>
>>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>
>>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed.
>>> Whilst
>>> I fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>>> one's PC?
>>>
>>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>
>

---Fitz--- · Jul 30, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

I learn by reading threads pertinent to the newsgroup I'm in, in this case
microsoft.public.security.virus. You're posting NO solutions or
questions...just babbling about who is Peter, who is genuine, Annexcafe,
people following you from other newsgroups and other off-the-wall stuff as
evidenced in your message:
____________
"I know *exactly* what I have been doing. YOU, on the other hand, have *not*
been staight-forward and honest. I asked you HOW you found me here - and you
completely ignored my question. Good people have absolutely nothing to fear
from me. Peter refuses at every stage to answer my questions. He is a big
boy (whoever he is) and would be, I'm sure, quite capable of standing up for
himself if he was honest and true (which, as you know, I doubt). No-one I've
ever met 'in the flesh' so to speak, has ever referred to the loss of my son
as 'frustrating' - the term used by Mr Foldes. That was a red rag to a bull.
You and I have absolutely no idea who this poster is ........ and no-one
else seems in the least bit concerned. Well I am - and will continue with
this 'crusading' (as you call it) until I am satisfied that nothing untoward
is happening on Annexcafe.

I thought I'd turned a corner after I'd trashed my suspected (infected) PC
and continued posting as 'beady'. I thought that I'd played by the rules but
then, suddenly, out of the blue, Li banned me again. When I asked why, I was
belittled and purported to be a fool. There is, whether you realise it or
not, something amiss. If there are people involved in malicious practices
*anywhere*, believe me, they /will/ be pursued!

As I've said already, this is *not* a game. It is in deadly earnest. So now
you know.

David"
____________
And this:
____________
"Hello Dave

I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?

Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when you
say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a veiled
threat."

____________
What does this have to do with this newsgroup? You're starting to sound
like a whack job to me and I've never read your posts before you came to
this newsgroup. Once again...WHO CARES?

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:eHkyHWg0HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I care Fitz - I am dead against the bad guys. Have you never even
>considered where the viruses and spyware come from? If /everyone/ buries
>their head in the sand, the actual perpetrators of malware will *never* be
>caught. Life is, indeed, short. Eradication of those who seek to do us harm
>is, in my book, a worthwhile cause. If /you/ don't care, don't read the
>thread.

>
> BD
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> "---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:46abbca8$0$12183$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Really...WHO CARES? This is a newsgroup about .security.virus, not who
>> you can trust on usenet. Simple, short answer, don't trust anyone. If
>> you've been "tracking" someone for 18 months then you are fixated on
>> them. Life's too short for that crap and this thread is too long for this
>> crap. Case closed.

BoaterDave · Jul 31, 2007

I am concerned for those who do NOT know about these things!

I am concerned for those who do NOT know about these things!

You ask why I'm making this 'public' (though few will bother coming here
unless they have their own personal crisis - and thus not be concerned about
the greater good of mankind. If I was in control of that group (instead of
it being censored) perhaps I would stay there. Newsgroups have no interest
for me other than as a vector to find those who wish us harm.

For example, this post of mine has not appeared yet at:
news.dogagent.com (boater.dave) Perhaps it will today.

If others are at all interested in this, it may be best to read the earlier
items first (from the bottom up!)

David

Well - a surprise at each and every turn! Fortunately for us all, the good
guys really do outnumber the bad.

I hope you've read them all, Li. I've been studying this kind of 'stuff' for
years now. The articles are good, but I saw nothing new to me.

You said "the ones searching for folks who cause this kind of harm certainly
aren't announcing that they're checking out certain private servers for the
perpetrator's". They might just not be announcing it , Li but they may well
be doing it. (I have a feeling, though, that you may have been being
somewhat cynical here!)

When you tell me something, anything, that you *really* know about Peter
Foldes (or is it Derek Feldman?) I'll cease worrying. All I know about him
is that he has highly sphisticated 'gear', knows the answer to everything
(at any time of day or night) celebrates Passover and lives in Canada. I
expect you have full details of his name, address and phone number and the
type of business that he's in. I do hope so. Maybe even have a photograph of
him.

On the other hand, he could be trying to harm us.

If you are *sure* he's not, please just tell me the truth about him.

You know everything there is to know about me (except that *I* never entered
my details on a dating website looking for a 'bit on the side')

David

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

"Troll_Lady" <Troll_Lady@dogagent.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.1244.1185828024.6783.boater.dave@dogagent.com...
> these are all good articles to read and understand how some things
> happen\work.
> not everyone is a bad guy, BD.
> the ones searching for folks who cause this kind of harm certainly aren't
> announcing that they're checking out certain private servers for the
> perpetrator's. any of these folks would love to have your evidence. most
> of
> the 'net would be very thankful to you if you find out about some of this
> stuff.
>
> *
> How cheaters are winning at online games like World of Warcraft
> http://www.networkworld.com/nlvirusbug86031
>
> The new book "Exploiting Online Games" by Greg Hoglund and Gary
> McGraw explains how cheaters are winning at online role-playing
> games such as World of Warcraft where millions of players
> compete in the virtual world to win battles or treasure that is
> sometimes later sold to avid game players for real money.
> Network World, 07/27/07.
>
> *
> Why we're losing the botnet battle
> http://www.networkworld.com/nlvirusbug86026
>
> Botnets -- they're dangerous, deceptive, and very difficult to
> detect and deal with. What's more, according to recent surveys,
> the botnet threat is growing...rapidly. Experts say it's
> imperative that enterprises become aware of the acute and
> growing dangers posed by botnets, and take decisive and
> effective steps to counter them before it's too late. CIO,
> 07/25/07.
>
> *
> Storm worm gets smarter
> http://www.networkworld.com/nlvirusbug86019
>
> Newer variants of the widespread Storm worm have introduced a
> new technique for evading security experts -- detecting when
> they are running in a virtual environment and changing their
> behavior if they are. TechWorld, 07/26/07.
>
> Related:
>
> Fun & Games: We're seeing a substantial seeding of a new Storm
> Worm variant. http://www.networkworld.com/nlvirusbug86020
>
> *
> Cisco: Vulnerability in Java Secure Socket Extension
> http://www.networkworld.com/nlvirusbug86013
>
> Some versions of the Sun Java Secure Socket Extension (JSSE) do
> not handle Transport Layer Security (TLS) or SSL handshakes
> properly, which could be exploited in a denial-of-service
> attack. Cisco's Unified Call Manager and Unified Presence
> systems are affected by the flaw, for which there is no
> workaround available at this time. Users "are advised to
> restrict access to the administrative interface to the IP
> addresses of known management stations."
>
>
> *
> The Advent of the Computer Hacker Scene
> http://www.networkworld.com/nlvirusbug86028
>
> The hacking scene is definitely not what it used to be. Though
> it seems hard to remember, there was a time before
> vulnerabilities were posted to mailing lists every day, you
> could sell exploits to corporations and hacking groups were
> being turned into security companies. Symantec Security Response
> Weblog, 07/27/07.
>
>
> excerpts used with permission.
>
>

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message
news:uWQzxFh0HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> darn it, BD.
> i'm not changing my properties but as an Admin on Annexcafe, i will inform
> everyone that you are banned from that private server also.
> you should leave these nice folks alone to help others that really need it
> and go play in your own group that Dave H. so kindly gave you.
> TrolLi
> Asst. Admin
> AdminTeam
> www.annexcafe.com
>
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%236yIQIg0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Dave
>
> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>
> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
> you
> say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
> should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
> veiled
> threat.
>
> You may or may not know any background. This is /not/ a game. Peter Foldes
> is a totally unknown quantity, and consistently fails to answer simple,
> polite requests. That, of course, is his prerogative but it leaves much
> room
> for doubt. Additionally, the 'Peter Foldes' who has posted on the
> Annexcafe
> sites has told lies - he was adamant that I lived in North America for
> starters. If you want more background, go here:
>
> http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=26668&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>
> When I checked a few minutes ago, this item had been read 2383 times!
> Whilst
> there really are bad guys around, I'm confident that there are far more
> good
> and honest ones. The bad guys /will/ be caught!

>
> HTH
>
> David
>
> PS Tail left deliberately this time.
>
> ******************************************************************************************
>
> "Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
> news:%237B1pBe0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I see what you are driving at, David.
>> Maybe they are educated, and making educated guesses?
>> Or maybe you should look into reasons why they stretch to doing this.
>> Are you being a nuisance, making ridiculous claims, defaming or following
>> people onto other groups or servers? Those sort of things would do it.
>>
>> BTW, when you enter a server like this, or another private nntp server,
>> you are dipping into their computer, they are allowing you to that.
>> Now I know what you are thinking, can the give you a virus or infection
>> via a download or link. No doubt it is possible, but then again many
>> people would also have done the same thing as you, and would be howling
>> for blood.
>> Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you should
>> leave well alone?
>>
>> Now I run a private nntp server myself, done for just for the pleasure of
>> sharing, and knowing I can run a safe (as any can be) place, and would
>> find it insulting that you would consider myself, or any visitors, were
>> tricking you to install something. I would have to ban you for such
>> thoughts, or make it so you can't post such disruptive/paranoid things to
>> upset a community. I would also ban anyone that harmed another's
>> computer,
>> or at least prevent them from posting.
>>
>> Dave H
>>
>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>>> trouble you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>>
>>> Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>>
>>> When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>> anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed.
>>> Whilst
>>> I fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can be
>>> 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as you say
>>> (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can identify
>>> someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware on
>>> one's PC?
>>>
>>> I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>
>

jen · Aug 2, 2007

Re: I am concerned for those who do NOT know about these things!

Re: I am concerned for those who do NOT know about these things!

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:ef9Hwc10HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You ask why I'm making this 'public' (though few will bother coming
> here unless they have their own personal crisis - and thus not be
> concerned about the greater good of mankind. If I was in control of
> that group (instead of it being censored) perhaps I would stay there.
> Newsgroups have no interest for me other than as a vector to find
> those who wish us harm.

Perhaps this may be of interest to you:
Let's Meet a Romanian eBay Scammer:
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Lets-Meet-a-Romanian-eBay-Scammer-86251

-jen

BoaterDave · Aug 4, 2007

Re: I am concerned for those who do NOT know about these things!

Re: I am concerned for those who do NOT know about these things!

Hello jen - nice of you to 'pop in' here.

I'd like to thank you for all the help and advice you have given to me (and
many others, in 'that other place')

You appear to have also made a link between PF and DF. Is this something we
could/should take to email?

David

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"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:OChmTBR1HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ef9Hwc10HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You ask why I'm making this 'public' (though few will bother coming here
>> unless they have their own personal crisis - and thus not be concerned
>> about the greater good of mankind. If I was in control of that group
>> (instead of it being censored) perhaps I would stay there. Newsgroups
>> have no interest for me other than as a vector to find those who wish us
>> harm.
>
> Perhaps this may be of interest to you:
> Let's Meet a Romanian eBay Scammer:
> http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Lets-Meet-a-Romanian-eBay-Scammer-86251
>
> -jen
>

Andrew Taylor · Aug 6, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

and David doesn't trust me either and I did tell him _who_ Peter Foldes is
and why he has a T3 line. This is information in the common domain as it was
posted online. I saved it because it was interesting. I trust Peter
implicitly and have done since very soon after I found him online. Since
that time I have corresponded and spoken to him on the telephone.

and David, your own post shows why Peter can post with two IP addresses. He
has two connections and one is via Sympatico. They are the biggest ISP in
Canada, being part of Bell (telephone) Canada. You might even find my IP
address, Peter's and Derek Feldman's all use the same IP range, because we
all connect via Sympatico.

--
Andrew Taylor
Toronto - Canada
~

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:E1736F4A-914C-4C90-84B6-D083A5C00AE6@microsoft.com...
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
> news:u4zdkZS0HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> I tell you why you should "trust" Peter.
>>
>> Because Peter Foldes *IS* trustworthy and I back what he has written in
>> this thread.
>>

BoaterDave · Aug 6, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Hello Andrew - I've missed you! <g> Thanks for posting though (why did you
come here looking for me?)

For the record, too, I have never said that I do not trust you - we learnt
much from one another.

It wasn't only me who spotted that Peter Foldes has exactly the same IP
address on any particular day as Derek Feldman - 'jen' spotted it too.

PF and DF have identical posting styles as well. PF has denied that he is DF
and has stated that he doesn't post on U2U. Unlike you and me, he has never
explained even a tiny snippet about who he is and what he does. Something
does NOT ring true about him.

David
"Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message
news:46b7801f$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> and David doesn't trust me either and I did tell him _who_ Peter Foldes is
> and why he has a T3 line. This is information in the common domain as it
> was posted online. I saved it because it was interesting. I trust Peter
> implicitly and have done since very soon after I found him online. Since
> that time I have corresponded and spoken to him on the telephone.
>
> and David, your own post shows why Peter can post with two IP addresses.
> He has two connections and one is via Sympatico. They are the biggest ISP
> in Canada, being part of Bell (telephone) Canada. You might even find my
> IP address, Peter's and Derek Feldman's all use the same IP range, because
> we all connect via Sympatico.
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor
> Toronto - Canada
> ~
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:E1736F4A-914C-4C90-84B6-D083A5C00AE6@microsoft.com...
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> news:u4zdkZS0HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> I tell you why you should "trust" Peter.
>>>
>>> Because Peter Foldes *IS* trustworthy and I back what he has written in
>>> this thread.
>>>
>
>

Andrew Taylor · Aug 7, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:urii79H2HHA.3640@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello Andrew - I've missed you! <g> Thanks for posting though (why did
> you come here looking for me?)

Yes, I came for a look-see as I heard you were cooking up a storm!
>
> For the record, too, I have never said that I do not trust you - we learnt
> much from one another.
>
Not sure how to take that. I hope you learned from me. I guess I learned
some human nature from you.

> It wasn't only me who spotted that Peter Foldes has exactly the same IP
> address on any particular day as Derek Feldman - 'jen' spotted it too.
>
A number of people at the other place have said they have met Derek in real
life and he is not Peter. Derek has been coming a going for years.

> PF and DF have identical posting styles as well. PF has denied that he is
> DF and has stated that he doesn't post on U2U. Unlike you and me, he has
> never explained even a tiny snippet about who he is and what he does.
> Something does NOT ring true about him.
>
They are both clever, they both deal in fixing problems. I have told you who
Peter is and what he does. Peter only made one post as to the nature of his
business and why he has a T3 line. I chose to save it as it interested me. I
passed that info on to you in part, in the UK version of the US forum where
it was posted. Peter explained his reasons for not posting there any more.

BoaterDave · Aug 7, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

In line replies

"Andrew Taylor" <andrewcrumplehorn@spamcopSUBVERSIVE.com> wrote in message
news:46b7f043$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:urii79H2HHA.3640@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello Andrew - I've missed you! <g> Thanks for posting though (why did
>> you come here looking for me?)
>
> Yes, I came for a look-see as I heard you were cooking up a storm!

*How* did you hear that Andrew? Why should anyone care about the ramlings of
a 'kook'? <g>

>> For the record, too, I have never said that I do not trust you - we
>> learnt much from one another.
>>
> Not sure how to take that. I hope you learned from me. I guess I learned
> some human nature from you.

Please take it at face value. I learnt a great many things both from you and
others on U2U. I guess they promoted me from the ranks so that I'd not cause
so much trouble! <g> I have always questioned things I do not understand and
am highly sceptical with regard to advice received from strangers (anyone on
the Internet falls into this category by the way!) especially when I know
little about a subject - that's the time I try to learn. You will also have
noted that I am tenacious and just will not let go. Whilst you dismissed my
claim that my PC was 'attacked' whilst on the US U2U site, I KNOW that it
was. That is what caused Peter so much frustration. Perhaps if you were less
trusting and asked some questions too, instead of blindly accepting that all
is well with the Annecafe/Dogagent liason situation, you might be able to
help pinpoint some of those who seek to harm us.

>> It wasn't only me who spotted that Peter Foldes has exactly the same IP
>> address on any particular day as Derek Feldman - 'jen' spotted it too.
>>
> A number of people at the other place have said they have met Derek in
> real life and he is not Peter. Derek has been coming a going for years.

See my answer above!

>> PF and DF have identical posting styles as well. PF has denied that he is
>> DF and has stated that he doesn't post on U2U. Unlike you and me, he has
>> never explained even a tiny snippet about who he is and what he does.
>> Something does NOT ring true about him.

> They are both clever, they both deal in fixing problems. I have told you
> who Peter is and what he does. Peter only made one post as to the nature
> of his business and why he has a T3 line. I chose to save it as it
> interested me. I passed that info on to you in part, in the UK version of
> the US forum where it was posted. Peter explained his reasons for not
> posting there any more.

Andrew - I despair! I cannot recall you telling me who Peter Foldes really
is. I don't think you actually know. If you read his replies to me on this
group (and/or on security.homeuser) you will spot that, when challenged, he
/denies/ having a T3 connection! Please read through all the posts I've made
here on MS in recent times - and /please/ try to keep a completely open
mind, rather than following others like a sheep. If you wish to take this
discussion to email, you have my address! <g>

FWIW

David

BoaterDave · Aug 8, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

Now why on earth would people want to 'bother' you Dave?

Perhaps because you gave them a newsgroup on your server ....... and then
removed it without notice or warning?
It seems to me, right now, that you are *not* the 'good guy' I had (vaguely)
hoped you might be.

David

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"Dave H" <spambox7@pepedog.com> wrote in message
news:%23SuYBGe0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> David,
> Occasionally I have to look for people who might cause me bother.
> The tool I use for identifying such persons is freeware, called My Nose.
> I would steer away from that newsgroup, they obviously have found
> something about you that has rubbed them up the wrong way.
>
> Dave H
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23RSl$MJ0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hello again Phil - slight misunderstanding I fear!
>>
>> I'm actually using the McAfee Internet Security Suite supplied (at extra
>> cost!) with my AOL (UK) subscription
>> + Windows Defender, AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 and Ad-Aware 2007 - all up to
>> date
>> on Windows XP Home, SP2 and all updates.
>>
>> I was referring in my comment to those on another newsgroup who seem
>> adamant
>> that they can identify me regardless of my selected 'nick' for posting
>> purposes. If my IP doesn't give me away, I was wondering what other 'spy'
>> might be being used to identify me.
>>
>> David
>>
>> *************************************************************************************************
>> "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:uRsqi.11417$rR.9799@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> 'BoaterDave' wrote:
>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my PC!
>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No, not lying - 'Beta' is a warning label that the software may not work
>>> as
>>> intended. You should not depend on 'Beta' software for critical
>>> operations
>>> (and keeping your system free of malware is a critical operation.) And
>>> even
>>> antimalware in production can give false alerts. If you are going to
>>> use
>>> an
>>> on-line scan, pick one that is NOT 'beta' and that is more thorough than
>>> 'Nanoscan'. Symantec and other antimalware publishers have more
>>> thorough
>>> on-line scans
>>>
>>> As a comparison, the Symantec on-line virus scanner will scan every file
>>> on
>>> a system and take 20 minutes or more (fast system with > 100,000 files)
>>> while 'Nanoscan' checks, on the same system in 20 seconds, well, who
>>> knows?
>>> ( I would imagine 'Nanoscan' checks memory, the registry, and whatever
>>> else
>>> it can in 20 seconds. Something like 'Nanoscan' might eventually be an
>>> quick supplement to other malware detectors, but only a minor
>>> supplement.
>>>
>>> What antimalware protection do you use, and is it up-to-date (an in
>>> either
>>> the very latest definitions or definitions updated within the last two
>>> days)?
>>>
>>> Phil Weldon
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Weldon
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:eXSXPTI0HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | So it seems that they are lying - or I have malware (again!) on my PC!
>>> | Now I've got to determine which it is!
>>> |
>>> | Thanks for your coments, Phil.
>>> |
>>> | BD
>>> | ******************************************************
>>> | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> | news:EBrqi.11448$tj6.10470@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed.
>>> | > Whilst
>>> | > I
>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can
>>> be
>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>> you
>>> say
>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>> identify
>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware
>>> on
>>> | > one's
>>> | > | PC?
>>> | > _____
>>> | >
>>> | > In the USA be George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzales, or Dick Cheney,
>>> bribe
>>> the
>>> | > ISP, or actually get a court order B^)
>>> | >
>>> | > Phil Weldon
>>> | >
>>> | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | > news:e8TIJCI0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | Phew! Thanks for all that, Phil! I really appreciate the time and
>>> | > trouble
>>> | > | you have taken to respond so comprehensively.
>>> | > |
>>> | > | Dare I ask you for further comment? <g> I will anyway!
>>> | > |
>>> | > | When posting to a newsgroup on a private server, it seems that
>>> | > | anyone/everyone can identify me, regardless of user name employed.
>>> | > Whilst
>>> | > I
>>> | > | fully appreciate that an individual has a certain style (which can
>>> be
>>> | > | 'fudged' - obfuscated, if you will) if the IP address changes as
>>> you
>>> say
>>> | > | (and I believe you!) can you suggest an alternate way they can
>>> identify
>>> | > | someone without having installed some form of 'reporting' malware
>>> on
>>> | > one's
>>> | > | PC?
>>> | > |
>>> | > | I'd value your advice. TIA.
>>> | > |
>>> | > | David
>>> | > |
>>> | > |
>>> | >
>>> ******************************************************************************************************
>>> | > | "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> | > | news:Wwqqi.12398$Od7.11531@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> | > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote, in part:
>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>> that
>>> | > does
>>> | > | > *not*
>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>> | > addresses
>>> | > | > when
>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>> folk
>>> | > visit
>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>> really
>>> | > you?
>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>> given -
>>> | > how
>>> | > | > easy
>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So
>>> I
>>> ask
>>> | > you
>>> | > | > once
>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>> IP
>>> | > address.
>>> | > | > _____
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > In the main, for DSL, an IP address is assigned dynamically to a
>>> | > customer.
>>> | > | > Each time a system (or for some setups the modem) connects to
>>> the
>>> ISP,
>>> | > the
>>> | > | > ISP assigns a new IP address from the block allocated to the
>>> ISP.
>>> A
>>> | > | > static
>>> | > | > IP address costs extra. If, for example, you were to examine
>>> the
>>> | > headers
>>> | > | > for my posts to this newsgroup, you would usually see a
>>> different
>>> IP
>>> | > | > address
>>> | > | > on posts from different days. Each IP address would be picked
>>> more
>>> or
>>> | > | > less
>>> | > | > at random from the block assigned to the ISP. With a large IP
>>> like
>>> | > mine,
>>> | > | > that would be from a address space of millions. If you look at
>>> my
>>> | > posts
>>> | > | > with time stamps more than a few days apart the IP address is
>>> | > different.
>>> | > | > The IP address associated with your post is from the block
>>> assigned
>>> to
>>> | > AOL
>>> | > | > (172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255), an IP address space of just
>>> over
>>> | > | > 1,500,000.
>>> | > | > My current IP address is as I make this post is 208.187.80.135.
>>> If
>>> I
>>> | > | > disconnect my DSL modem, and post again, the IP address in that
>>> second
>>> | > | > post
>>> | > | > will be different. So newsgroup identities are exactly as you
>>> | > thought.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > There is no way to identify a newsgroup poster from the IP
>>> address
>>> in
>>> | > the
>>> | > | > post headers, even if the headers are completely legitimate
>>> without
>>> | > the
>>> | > | > cooperation of the ISP because you need the records the ISP
>>> keeps
>>> to
>>> | > match
>>> | > | > an IP address with the customer AT THE TIME THE POST WAS MADE.
>>> Even
>>> | > if
>>> | > | > the
>>> | > | > customers IP address is static, though you might assume the
>>> identity
>>> | > of
>>> | > | > the
>>> | > | > poster, you'd still need the account records. This should take
>>> a
>>> | > court
>>> | > | > order or a 'national security letter' these days.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > Some naive trolls who use different sock puppet posting names
>>> are
>>> | > exposed
>>> | > | > when [they post from a small ISP (because the pool of ISP
>>> addresses
>>> is
>>> | > | > small) or when they post from a static IP address] AND the style
>>> is
>>> | > | > suspiciously similar. But that is just exposure of sock
>>> puppets,
>>> NOT
>>> | > | > actually matching a real identity to a post.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > As for your original question, which I think is about Panda
>>> nanoscan
>>> | > (ALL
>>> | > | > the information for a newsgroup post should be in the BODY of
>>> the
>>> | > | > message -
>>> | > | > the 'Subject' line should be a short phrase to indicate the
>>> content
>>> of
>>> | > the
>>> | > | > message). My thoughts on Panda nanoscan: there is no
>>> compelling
>>> | > reason
>>> | > | > to
>>> | > | > try it. On the down side it is 'Beta' (may have bugs, is not
>>> ready
>>> | > for
>>> | > | > release, is at present for Panda's benefit, not the user's
>>> benefit),
>>> | > it
>>> | > | > can't be very thorough in 20 seconds, requires installing
>>> active-x
>>> | > | > controls,
>>> | > | > really gives no assurance that the scanned system is clean, and
>>> | > requires
>>> | > | > an
>>> | > | > active connection to the internet. On the up side, it is very
>>> quick.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > Phil Weldon
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | > | > news:uj8F0CF0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | > | In-line responses
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> | > | > | news:OCx$NTE0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | > | Sorry Dave . But I cannot comment on your request since I am
>>> not
>>> | > | > familiar
>>> | > | > at
>>> | > | > | all with the Panda software. Maybe someone will come along
>>> soon
>>> that
>>> | > can
>>> | > | > | comment on your question.
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | **Thanks for your straight-forward reply, Peter. I'll wait
>>> | > patiently!
>>> | >

>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | As far as IP addresses go you do know that they can be spoofed
>>> and
>>>| > some
>>> | > | > | people do it .
>>> | > | > | You have been in a similar situation yourself when you had
>>> your
>>> ID
>>> | > | > stolen
>>> | > | > in
>>> | > | > | the past so you know what kind of situation it can create
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | **Indeed - your memory serves you well (this time!) However,
>>> that
>>> | > does
>>> | > | > *not*
>>> | > | > | explain why posts from you here invariably have different IP
>>> | > addresses
>>> | > | > when
>>> | > | > | the day changes. You cannot, surely, be suggesting that when
>>> folk
>>> | > visit
>>> | > | > | /this/ group and see the name of Peter Foldes that it isn't
>>> really
>>> | > you?
>>> | > | > | People tend to see a name they trust and follow the advice
>>> given -
>>> | > how
>>> | > | > easy
>>> | > | > | it would be to mislead vulnerable folk in such a scenario. So
>>> I
>>> ask
>>> | > you
>>> | > | > once
>>> | > | > | again, politely., the reason for the constant change in your
>>> IP
>>> | > address.
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | BD
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | >
>>> | >
>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > | "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | > | > | news:%23%23FF5pA0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | > | > Hello Peter! Thank you for the reminder.
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > It would, though, have been even more helpful had you also
>>> given
>>> | > your
>>> | > | > view
>>> | > | > | > on the new facility from Panda as I'd requested.
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > Whilst I'm here I noted that your IP address is currently
>>> | > | > 64.228.81.234
>>> | > | > | > Having checked your other posts on this group since 31 May,
>>> each
>>> | > IP
>>> | > | > | > address
>>> | > | > | > is different (save for on 5 July when 3 replies were made on
>>> the
>>> | > same
>>> | > | > | > day).
>>> | > | > | > The previous training given by you - to me - suggested that
>>> an
>>> IP
>>> | > | > address
>>> | > | > | > may be used to identify a particular poster. Others posting
>>> here
>>> | > *do*
>>> | > | > | > maintain the same IP address. Will you, please, explain why
>>> yours
>>> | > | > changes?
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > An additional query. On a separate newsgroup, on a private
>>> server,
>>> | > the
>>> | > | > IP
>>> | > | > | > address of a poster is shown as 127.0.0.1, viz:-
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > X-Trace: dogagent.com 1185373384 26976 127.0.0.1 (25 Jul
>>> 2007
>>> | > 14:23:04
>>> | > | > | > GMT)
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > I'd be grateful if you, or anyone else knowledgeable on such
>>> | > matters,
>>> | > | > | > would
>>> | > | > | > comment on this. Thank you.
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > David
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > ***************************************
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> | > | > | > news:%23e7LSG$zHHA.5152@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | > | > multiposted not crossposted. Even worse
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> | > | > | > --
>>> | > | > | > Peter
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> | > | > | > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>>> | > acknowledged.
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | > "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> | > | > | > news:uRDXih8zHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | > | >> Forgive the cross-post but, on reflection, I felt this
>>> might
>>> be
>>> a
>>> | > | > more
>>> | > | > | >> appropriate place to ask this question!
>>> | > | > | >>
>>> | > | > | >> Hi - just wondering is any of the gurus here have tried it
>>> and
>>> | > might
>>> | > | > wish
>>> | > | > | >> to
>>> | > | > | >> comment: See: http://www.nanoscan.com/
>>> | > | > | >>
>>> | > | > | >> David
>>> | > | > | >>
>>> | > | > | >>
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > | >
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | > |
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | >
>>> | > |
>>> | > |
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

BoaterDave · Aug 8, 2007

Re: A new 'Beta' test from Panda

OK - a question for you Fitz - I'm always willing to learn.

I have no problem seeing IP addresses in the messages of others here. I'm
puzzled.
Will you please explain why I cannot see any IP address listed in the
'Properties' of your posts here? TIA

David

"---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:46ad7402$0$4716$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I learn by reading threads pertinent to the newsgroup I'm in, in this case
>microsoft.public.security.virus. You're posting NO solutions or
>questions...just babbling about who is Peter, who is genuine, Annexcafe,
>people following you from other newsgroups and other off-the-wall stuff as
>evidenced in your message:
> ____________
> "I know *exactly* what I have been doing. YOU, on the other hand, have
> *not*
> been staight-forward and honest. I asked you HOW you found me here - and
> you
> completely ignored my question. Good people have absolutely nothing to
> fear
> from me. Peter refuses at every stage to answer my questions. He is a big
> boy (whoever he is) and would be, I'm sure, quite capable of standing up
> for
> himself if he was honest and true (which, as you know, I doubt). No-one
> I've
> ever met 'in the flesh' so to speak, has ever referred to the loss of my
> son
> as 'frustrating' - the term used by Mr Foldes. That was a red rag to a
> bull.
> You and I have absolutely no idea who this poster is ........ and no-one
> else seems in the least bit concerned. Well I am - and will continue with
> this 'crusading' (as you call it) until I am satisfied that nothing
> untoward
> is happening on Annexcafe.
>
> I thought I'd turned a corner after I'd trashed my suspected (infected) PC
> and continued posting as 'beady'. I thought that I'd played by the rules
> but
> then, suddenly, out of the blue, Li banned me again. When I asked why, I
> was
> belittled and purported to be a fool. There is, whether you realise it or
> not, something amiss. If there are people involved in malicious practices
> *anywhere*, believe me, they /will/ be pursued!
>
> As I've said already, this is *not* a game. It is in deadly earnest. So
> now
> you know.
>
> David"
> ____________
> And this:
> ____________
> "Hello Dave
>
> I trust you haven't followed /me/ here! (were you actively seeking ME?)
> Hundreds of MS groups aren't there - HOW /did/ you find me?
>
> Perhaps your intentions are good and you are trying to help me BUT when
> you
> say " Maybe if you don't understand the nature of things like this, you
> should leave well alone?" .......... some might interpret that as a
> veiled
> threat."
>
> ____________
> What does this have to do with this newsgroup? You're starting to sound
> like a whack job to me and I've never read your posts before you came to
> this newsgroup. Once again...WHO CARES?
>
> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eHkyHWg0HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I care Fitz - I am dead against the bad guys. Have you never even
>>considered where the viruses and spyware come from? If /everyone/ buries
>>their head in the sand, the actual perpetrators of malware will *never* be
>>caught. Life is, indeed, short. Eradication of those who seek to do us
>>harm is, in my book, a worthwhile cause. If /you/ don't care, don't read
>>the thread.

>>
>> BD
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> "---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:46abbca8$0$12183$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Really...WHO CARES? This is a newsgroup about .security.virus, not who
>>> you can trust on usenet. Simple, short answer, don't trust anyone. If
>>> you've been "tracking" someone for 18 months then you are fixated on
>>> them. Life's too short for that crap and this thread is too long for
>>> this crap. Case closed.
>

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