Re: Addition to Previous Energy post (aka, vista is a crime to humanity)
I read what you said and i know what the future is..
you must compare 2 os on the same hardware...
for now bake an egg on a cpu and hdd runnng vista
xp is better there too! less waste of energy... heck, xp is better in
everything
"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
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> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> You do not need to consume more energy to achieve better CPU
>>> performance. The increase in CPU clock speed, number of cores and other
>>> internal optimizations in CPU design that lead to greater CPU
>>> performance are accompanied by a reduction in die size and fabrication
>>> process that result sin lower power consumption figures for more
>>> performance.
>>
>> WRONG
>> given the same cpu, it works harder on vista than older OS.
>> some laptop cpus can go into a lower power state if not in use...however
>> with indexing and defrag services runnng in the background
>> vista ensures more power use.
>>
>
> Maybe you should read what I actually wrote before you go shouting WORNG
> everywhere.
>
> I never mentioned the same CPU working harder under Vista - my point was
> that on a modern PC with a later model of processor (remember the vast
> majority of home user sales of Vista are by OEM - the retail market is
> insignificant, so they are getting Vista on a newer PC with a newer
> processor so your comparison is only valid for tiny fraction of the vista
> users out there) that can be more powerful in terms of processing
> capability it will actually draw less then a previous generation of
> processor.
> The latest generation of Intel CPUs will have a 2W mode as well for
> extremely low power usage scenarios.
>
> Again more modern device will run in lower power modes even with low
> priority services such as indexing are running, again the default time
> for defrag and update are in the middle of the night when your PC will be
> idle and drawing a fraction of the power during full operation.
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46a786d1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>> You do not need to consume more energy to achieve better CPU
>>> performance. The increase in CPU clock speed, number of cores and other
>>> internal optimizations in CPU design that lead to greater CPU
>>> performance are accompanied by a reduction in die size and fabrication
>>> process that result sin lower power consumption figures for more
>>> performance.
>>
>> WRONG
>> given the same cpu, it works harder on vista than older OS.
>> some laptop cpus can go into a lower power state if not in use...however
>> with indexing and defrag services runnng in the background
>> vista ensures more power use.
>>
>>
>> you are wrong AGAIN..
>>
>> install a 350w power supply to a modern pc with a high end display
>> adaptor and you will see that it will not be enough
>>
>> it will destoy the ps unit... new pcs have 500w psu's and they need that
>> power.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:3346620A-92E0-4D39-BAEA-9F26C8AC7092@microsoft.com...
>>> You do not need to consume more energy to achieve better CPU
>>> performance. The increase in CPU clock speed, number of cores and other
>>> internal optimizations in CPU design that lead to greater CPU
>>> performance are accompanied by a reduction in die size and fabrication
>>> process that result sin lower power consumption figures for more
>>> performance.
>>> For example the next generation of Intel CPU on a 45nm fab will be dual
>>> and quad core at greater then 3GHz clock speed and consumer less power
>>> at full speed then a light bulb (approx 60W). Also the technology
>>> allows for then to back off clock speed and even shutdown a core if high
>>> levels of performance is not required.
>>>
>>> I assume your figures of 500 to 600W for a PC re not just based on the
>>> size of a power supply they have fitted as again it does not work that
>>> way - just because you put a 600W power supply in your PC does not mean
>>> it is using 600W
>>> If did it would mean your PC in a US household was pulling nearly 6amps
>>> again not the case.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>
>>> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46a777c1$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>>I forgot to mention that Vista needs more CPU power to do the same
>>>>functions than older OS's needed,
>>>> CPU power means more watts, and that means more electrical energy
>>>> needed.
>>>> Plus it needs a high end power draining video card just function
>>>> normally if you want all the features...
>>>> I have seen cards than need huge amounts of power and have large air
>>>> blowers!
>>>>
>>>> What is this? A computer or an oven? 500 - 600 watts for 1 computer?
>>>> THIS IS CRAZY!
>>>>
>>>> This whole concept lacks GRACE and elegance!!!
>>>> Vista is a bloated monster... and a DISGRACE!
>>>>
>>>> I WISH FOR THIS:
>>>>
>>>> The next version of windows (windows 7)
>>>> be redesigned from scratch to be very compact, lightweight, fast, with
>>>> wisdom and care for the earth and the people.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see computers that can run on less than 20 watts.. it
>>>> can be done...
>>>> Of course the hardware plays the biggest role.. but the OS can also
>>>> lead the way by being more efficient.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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