G
Gary S. Terhune
Guest
Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager
Well, if it seems to run OK, it's time to leave it alone. Yes, Device
Manager isn't neat and tidy like you'd want, but a less than perfect DM is
actually pretty common.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OHQz12NfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> See comments below:
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OqRi97MfIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Unsigned, signed, no diff, really.
>>
>> Let's see if we can go over this one more time:
>> You have a video adapter with dual monitor capability, but only one
> monitor.
>> Is that correct? Is it a new adapter?
>
> I've had the video adapter (ATI 9200 Radeon) quite some time, the
> Viewsonic
> VP930b monitor was new to the system. I have updated the drivers for the
> video adapter on several occassions.
>
>> Or is the monitor (NOT "display") that's new and you are having a
> difficult
>> time getting it right?
>
> The supplied Win98 drivers on the CD-ROM would not install. I downloaded
> the Unsigned driver pack from Viewsonic site, and the Monitor picked up
> drivers on it's own. An unknown device was detected on the video adapter
> and a Default Monitor was also installed.
>
>> Have you removed ALL monitors and ALL video adapters? and then
> reinstalled?,
>> adapter first?
>
> Yes I've removed all monitors & adapters in device manager and then
> rebooted, but everything stays the same.
>
>> If this is a dual monitor adapter, have you looked in the instructions to
>> see if there's a way to turn it back into a single-monitor adapter?
>
> I have set the video adapter to dingle display mode.
>
>> Did you try the first three replies to your post?
>
> Yes, if you are asking if I disabled the Default Monitor
>
>> It is NOT unusual to see Default Monitor installed alongside the more up
> to
>> date drivers --- I sometimes wonder if it isn't NEEDED for certain types
> of
>> installations.
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OzQq8yMfIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Yes, everything looks good except the Device Manager and it's ugly
>> > behaviour
>> > with the ICM and the extra Default Monitor attached to the video
> adapter.
>> > I
>> > think I've exhausted any doubt that it can not get any better with
> Windows
>> > 98SE. I guess that's to be expected with unsigned drivers, which is
>> > all
>> > that is available for Windows 98SE..
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:uEPAKFMfIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Warren,
>> >>
>> >> Does your monitor look right? Does it behave properly. Anything wrong
>> >> that
>> >> you can describe (or even anything wrong that you can't put your
>> >> finger
>> > on?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:efjA9zseIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Your comments are interesting but I don't understand what you want
>> >> > me
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > in order to completly remove the monitors. I've been trying and I
> amm
>> >> > confused as to why I'm at Monitor_16 or whatever. Do you have any
>> >> > specific
>> >> > instructions on how to delete monitors properly ?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >
> news:0de89406-5ce7-4a51-b56b-3d65c765844e@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > On Feb 27, 10:04 pm, "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I swapped drivers, it was kind of scary, but it came back. The only
>> > thing
>> >> > I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>
>> >> >> news:%23MRE$8beIHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > | "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |news:eaekKAPeIHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> See comments below: $$$
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |>news:%23AFw64MeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > |> > | Thanks PCR,that solved the problem perfectly. Good fix.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > You are welcome. So... on Brian A.'s head & 1/3 the blame
> going
>> > to
>> >> >> > |> > Badour... go on and R-Clk that monster VS080114_I19.inf, &
>> > select
>> >> >> > |> > "Install".
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (1) What happened?
>> >> >> > |> > (There's a chance you get no feedback.)
>> >> >> > |> > But do you still have both a Default Monitor & the
>> >> >> > |> > ViewSonic VP930 Series showing in Device Manager?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ They are still both there
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (2) Do this again...
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) Boot to Safe Mode
>> >> >> > |> > (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
>> >> >> > |> > (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System,
>> >> >> > |> > Device Manager tab"
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Open the Monitors branch,
>> >> >> > |> > & Remove all entries under it.
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Boot to Normal Mode.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > Is the ViewSonic VP930 Series monitor rediscovered &
>> >> >> > |> > installed? Did the Default Monitor disappear?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ Unfortunately it picked both monitors upagain
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That's the procedure that really should be working for this!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (3) "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab, Advanced button,
>> >> >> > |> > Monitor tab"
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) What monitor is stated by the monitor icon?
>> >> >> > |> > (You should see ViewSonic VP930 Series.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You didn't answer. You did see that there?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (b) Click the Change button, & the Next button.
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
>> >> >> > |> > Does ViewSonic VP930 Series show in the Models box?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Same here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
>> >> >> > |> > Examine the two panes to see what is currently
>> >> >> > |> > installed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > At this point, did Windows rebuild its "driver information
>> >> >> > database"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > In the left (Manufacturers) pane, you should see ViewSonic,
>> >> >> > &
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > |> > the right (Models) pane, you should see ViewSonic VP930
> Series
>> >> >> > |> > selected & highlighted.
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ It is just highlighting the first Viewsonic monitor in the
>> >> >> > |> driver list "OPTIQUEST 1000S"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh. That's the top one, & is the one mine points to when I
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > ViewSonic in the left pane. Yours should be pointing at the
>> >> >> > VP930,
>> >> >> > because that was installed! That's what normally happens at that
>> >> >> > requestor!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > We have to try Registry deletes again, I guess. I'll post it
>> > elsewhere
>> >> >> > in this thread. Maybe try removing the adapter first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > | One thought I've had is that the Device Manager may be
>> >> >> > insisting
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > | building a second monitor is because the video adapter has
>> > provision
>> >> >> > | for two monitors. I have set the video card for having only one
>> >> >> > | monitor, but maybe the Device Manager doesn't look at this
> setting
>> > on
>> >> >> > | the video adapter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Where do you see a setting for that? Here is how to remove the
>> > Adapter,
>> >> >> > as I posted elsewhere, (but it's something I, myself, might be a
> tad
>> >> >> > fearful to do)...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Important: At the point below where you "bolt
>> >> >> > 'Show all hardware'", ensure you copy down what is in the left &
>> > right
>> >> >> > panes. Then, if you have no other way to get back your current
>> > display
>> >> >> > adapter, you may go back into that screen to select it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ......Quote..........
>> >> >> > The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
>> >> >> > installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from
> the
>> >> >> > drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced"
>> >> >> > button;
>> > and
>> >> >> > click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
>> >> >> > currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard
>> >> >> > Display
>> >> >> > Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [That is: Click "Change button, Next, bolt 'Display a List...',
>> >> >> > Next,
>> >> >> > bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
> '(Standard
>> >> >> > display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right
>> > pane,
>> >> >> > click 'Next'"... PCR]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
>> >> >> > generic
>> > VGA
>> >> >> > adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
>> > because
>> >> >> > it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is
>> >> >> > to
>> > get
>> >> >> > rid of whatever was there before.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
>> > matches
>> >> >> > your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
>> >> >> > using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
> to
>> >> >> > see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
>> >> >> > correct
>> >> >> > video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have
> an
>> >> >> > adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > made your video card.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Bill Starbuck (MVP)
>> >> >> > ......End....of quote....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |> > |news:O$5VlXCeIHA.288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ...snip
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> >> >> > Should things get worse after this,
>> >> >> > PCR
>> >> >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >> >
>> >> >>The only thing I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> > Rebooting is only the most important part of the whole process.
>> >> > That
>> >> > and deleting the correct things, take the line below for an example.
>> >> >
>> >> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Monitor
>> >> > \0015
>> >> >
>> >> > When the hardware item for monitors is properly deleted, the
>> >> > registry
>> >> > should be missing the entire Monitor key itself along with the 0016
>> >> > copies of non-functioning monitor bloat in the registry. When you
>> >> > then reboot, Windows notices that there is NO monitor info (valid or
>> >> > otherwise) in the registry and sets about looking through the inf
>> >> > files to install one (or two) that matches the seen hardware pronto.
>> >> > And this is HOW to do it in the first place. Gee whiz. You can't
>> >> > just delete the ones you want to or the ones you happen to don't
>> >> > like
>> >> > - it's not up to you at all. That's why you wound up with so many
>> >> > because everytime you piddle with it wrong Windows has to chuck all
>> >> > those monitors and start counting from the last good entry all over
>> >> > again. Which is why we clear the bloat out of the registry at times
>> >> > like this.
>> >> >
>> >> > You can't manually install hardware inf files with a right click.
> Any
>> >> > inf file with the word "Base" in it is hands off and you can't get
>> >> > there from here anyway - so just fugetaboutit. You have only one
>> >> > option and that is to do it the right way. Remove the hardware from
>> >> > the Device Mangler and reboot to redetect it and install the proper
>> >> > files for it. If that doesn't work then you didn't remove enough
>> >> > hardware the first time around.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only exception is when custom hardware installation disks
>> >> > require
>> >> > you to do it the way they say to do it. In such cases - read the
>> >> > manual and do it how they say.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Well, if it seems to run OK, it's time to leave it alone. Yes, Device
Manager isn't neat and tidy like you'd want, but a less than perfect DM is
actually pretty common.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OHQz12NfIHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> See comments below:
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OqRi97MfIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Unsigned, signed, no diff, really.
>>
>> Let's see if we can go over this one more time:
>> You have a video adapter with dual monitor capability, but only one
> monitor.
>> Is that correct? Is it a new adapter?
>
> I've had the video adapter (ATI 9200 Radeon) quite some time, the
> Viewsonic
> VP930b monitor was new to the system. I have updated the drivers for the
> video adapter on several occassions.
>
>> Or is the monitor (NOT "display") that's new and you are having a
> difficult
>> time getting it right?
>
> The supplied Win98 drivers on the CD-ROM would not install. I downloaded
> the Unsigned driver pack from Viewsonic site, and the Monitor picked up
> drivers on it's own. An unknown device was detected on the video adapter
> and a Default Monitor was also installed.
>
>> Have you removed ALL monitors and ALL video adapters? and then
> reinstalled?,
>> adapter first?
>
> Yes I've removed all monitors & adapters in device manager and then
> rebooted, but everything stays the same.
>
>> If this is a dual monitor adapter, have you looked in the instructions to
>> see if there's a way to turn it back into a single-monitor adapter?
>
> I have set the video adapter to dingle display mode.
>
>> Did you try the first three replies to your post?
>
> Yes, if you are asking if I disabled the Default Monitor
>
>> It is NOT unusual to see Default Monitor installed alongside the more up
> to
>> date drivers --- I sometimes wonder if it isn't NEEDED for certain types
> of
>> installations.
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OzQq8yMfIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Yes, everything looks good except the Device Manager and it's ugly
>> > behaviour
>> > with the ICM and the extra Default Monitor attached to the video
> adapter.
>> > I
>> > think I've exhausted any doubt that it can not get any better with
> Windows
>> > 98SE. I guess that's to be expected with unsigned drivers, which is
>> > all
>> > that is available for Windows 98SE..
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:uEPAKFMfIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Warren,
>> >>
>> >> Does your monitor look right? Does it behave properly. Anything wrong
>> >> that
>> >> you can describe (or even anything wrong that you can't put your
>> >> finger
>> > on?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:efjA9zseIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Your comments are interesting but I don't understand what you want
>> >> > me
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > in order to completly remove the monitors. I've been trying and I
> amm
>> >> > confused as to why I'm at Monitor_16 or whatever. Do you have any
>> >> > specific
>> >> > instructions on how to delete monitors properly ?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >
> news:0de89406-5ce7-4a51-b56b-3d65c765844e@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > On Feb 27, 10:04 pm, "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I swapped drivers, it was kind of scary, but it came back. The only
>> > thing
>> >> > I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>
>> >> >> news:%23MRE$8beIHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > | "Warren" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |news:eaekKAPeIHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> See comments below: $$$
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |>news:%23AFw64MeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > |> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > |> > | Thanks PCR,that solved the problem perfectly. Good fix.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > You are welcome. So... on Brian A.'s head & 1/3 the blame
> going
>> > to
>> >> >> > |> > Badour... go on and R-Clk that monster VS080114_I19.inf, &
>> > select
>> >> >> > |> > "Install".
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (1) What happened?
>> >> >> > |> > (There's a chance you get no feedback.)
>> >> >> > |> > But do you still have both a Default Monitor & the
>> >> >> > |> > ViewSonic VP930 Series showing in Device Manager?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ They are still both there
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (2) Do this again...
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) Boot to Safe Mode
>> >> >> > |> > (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
>> >> >> > |> > (b) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System,
>> >> >> > |> > Device Manager tab"
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Open the Monitors branch,
>> >> >> > |> > & Remove all entries under it.
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Boot to Normal Mode.
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > Is the ViewSonic VP930 Series monitor rediscovered &
>> >> >> > |> > installed? Did the Default Monitor disappear?
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ Unfortunately it picked both monitors upagain
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That's the procedure that really should be working for this!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (3) "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab, Advanced button,
>> >> >> > |> > Monitor tab"
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > (a) What monitor is stated by the monitor icon?
>> >> >> > |> > (You should see ViewSonic VP930 Series.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You didn't answer. You did see that there?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (b) Click the Change button, & the Next button.
>> >> >> > |> > (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
>> >> >> > |> > Does ViewSonic VP930 Series show in the Models box?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Same here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
>> >> >> > |> > Examine the two panes to see what is currently
>> >> >> > |> > installed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > At this point, did Windows rebuild its "driver information
>> >> >> > database"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |> > In the left (Manufacturers) pane, you should see ViewSonic,
>> >> >> > &
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > |> > the right (Models) pane, you should see ViewSonic VP930
> Series
>> >> >> > |> > selected & highlighted.
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> $$$ It is just highlighting the first Viewsonic monitor in the
>> >> >> > |> driver list "OPTIQUEST 1000S"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Uhuh. That's the top one, & is the one mine points to when I
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > ViewSonic in the left pane. Yours should be pointing at the
>> >> >> > VP930,
>> >> >> > because that was installed! That's what normally happens at that
>> >> >> > requestor!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > We have to try Registry deletes again, I guess. I'll post it
>> > elsewhere
>> >> >> > in this thread. Maybe try removing the adapter first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Warren wrote:
>> >> >> > | One thought I've had is that the Device Manager may be
>> >> >> > insisting
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > | building a second monitor is because the video adapter has
>> > provision
>> >> >> > | for two monitors. I have set the video card for having only one
>> >> >> > | monitor, but maybe the Device Manager doesn't look at this
> setting
>> > on
>> >> >> > | the video adapter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Where do you see a setting for that? Here is how to remove the
>> > Adapter,
>> >> >> > as I posted elsewhere, (but it's something I, myself, might be a
> tad
>> >> >> > fearful to do)...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Important: At the point below where you "bolt
>> >> >> > 'Show all hardware'", ensure you copy down what is in the left &
>> > right
>> >> >> > panes. Then, if you have no other way to get back your current
>> > display
>> >> >> > adapter, you may go back into that screen to select it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ......Quote..........
>> >> >> > The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
>> >> >> > installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from
> the
>> >> >> > drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced"
>> >> >> > button;
>> > and
>> >> >> > click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
>> >> >> > currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard
>> >> >> > Display
>> >> >> > Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [That is: Click "Change button, Next, bolt 'Display a List...',
>> >> >> > Next,
>> >> >> > bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
> '(Standard
>> >> >> > display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right
>> > pane,
>> >> >> > click 'Next'"... PCR]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
>> >> >> > generic
>> > VGA
>> >> >> > adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
>> > because
>> >> >> > it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is
>> >> >> > to
>> > get
>> >> >> > rid of whatever was there before.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
>> > matches
>> >> >> > your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
>> >> >> > using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
> to
>> >> >> > see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
>> >> >> > correct
>> >> >> > video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have
> an
>> >> >> > adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > made your video card.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Bill Starbuck (MVP)
>> >> >> > ......End....of quote....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > |>
>> >> >> > |> >
>> >> >> > |> > | "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > |> > |news:O$5VlXCeIHA.288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ...snip
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> >> >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> >> >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> >> >> > Should things get worse after this,
>> >> >> > PCR
>> >> >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >> >
>> >> >>The only thing I
>> >> >> didn't do was reboot in between changes. Does that matter ?
>> >> > Rebooting is only the most important part of the whole process.
>> >> > That
>> >> > and deleting the correct things, take the line below for an example.
>> >> >
>> >> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\Monitor
>> >> > \0015
>> >> >
>> >> > When the hardware item for monitors is properly deleted, the
>> >> > registry
>> >> > should be missing the entire Monitor key itself along with the 0016
>> >> > copies of non-functioning monitor bloat in the registry. When you
>> >> > then reboot, Windows notices that there is NO monitor info (valid or
>> >> > otherwise) in the registry and sets about looking through the inf
>> >> > files to install one (or two) that matches the seen hardware pronto.
>> >> > And this is HOW to do it in the first place. Gee whiz. You can't
>> >> > just delete the ones you want to or the ones you happen to don't
>> >> > like
>> >> > - it's not up to you at all. That's why you wound up with so many
>> >> > because everytime you piddle with it wrong Windows has to chuck all
>> >> > those monitors and start counting from the last good entry all over
>> >> > again. Which is why we clear the bloat out of the registry at times
>> >> > like this.
>> >> >
>> >> > You can't manually install hardware inf files with a right click.
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>> >> > inf file with the word "Base" in it is hands off and you can't get
>> >> > there from here anyway - so just fugetaboutit. You have only one
>> >> > option and that is to do it the right way. Remove the hardware from
>> >> > the Device Mangler and reboot to redetect it and install the proper
>> >> > files for it. If that doesn't work then you didn't remove enough
>> >> > hardware the first time around.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only exception is when custom hardware installation disks
>> >> > require
>> >> > you to do it the way they say to do it. In such cases - read the
>> >> > manual and do it how they say.
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