Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

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Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

Darn spelling correction!!

bcdedit /?
not
credit /? to access Vista boot manager.
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Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
www.zardoc.com
XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:%23HtBZ97dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse my
> English grammar),
>
> I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot
> system file issues with Windows System Restore.
>
> He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't
> like Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.
>
> Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well
> explained as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into
> XP and then return to Vista.
>
> I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with
> Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and
> BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager
> the command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)
>
> So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell
> you that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash
> and quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as
> a quick fix for this issue.
>
> I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience
> and do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not
> always the best (or right) way.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
> www.zardoc.com
> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...
>> You're welcome, and thanks.
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...
>>> Colin:
>>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you
>>> used "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been
>>> "\DosDevices\I:" and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper"
>>> with the modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have
>>> a great day.
>>> --
>>> Dennis Pack
>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
>>> Office Professional Plus 2007
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>>> and
>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>>> multi-booting
>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if
>>>> I
>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>>> resolve
>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>>>> notes
>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>>>> Pro
>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>>> more
>>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>>
>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the
>>>> Word
>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>>> Office,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>>> reposting,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

Thanks.

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:%23HtBZ97dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse my
> English grammar),
>
> I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot
> system file issues with Windows System Restore.
>
> He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't
> like Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.
>
> Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well
> explained as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into
> XP and then return to Vista.
>
> I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with
> Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and
> BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager
> the command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)
>
> So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell
> you that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash
> and quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as
> a quick fix for this issue.
>
> I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience
> and do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not
> always the best (or right) way.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
> www.zardoc.com
> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...
>> You're welcome, and thanks.
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...
>>> Colin:
>>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you
>>> used "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been
>>> "\DosDevices\I:" and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper"
>>> with the modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have
>>> a great day.
>>> --
>>> Dennis Pack
>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
>>> Office Professional Plus 2007
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>>> and
>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>>> multi-booting
>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if
>>>> I
>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>>> resolve
>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>>>> notes
>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>>>> Pro
>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>>> more
>>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>>
>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the
>>>> Word
>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>>> Office,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>>> reposting,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

You are welcome.
--
Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
www.zardoc.com
XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0391A1D2-185D-4691-B9C1-AF4F63DC3893@microsoft.com...
> Thanks.
>
> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23HtBZ97dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse
>> my English grammar),
>>
>> I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot
>> system file issues with Windows System Restore.
>>
>> He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't
>> like Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.
>>
>> Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well
>> explained as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into
>> XP and then return to Vista.
>>
>> I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with
>> Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and
>> BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager
>> the command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)
>>
>> So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell
>> you that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash
>> and quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as
>> a quick fix for this issue.
>>
>> I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience
>> and do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not
>> always the best (or right) way.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>> www.zardoc.com
>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...
>>> You're welcome, and thanks.
>>>
>>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...
>>>> Colin:
>>>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you
>>>> used "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been
>>>> "\DosDevices\I:" and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your
>>>> "Greypaper" with the modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks
>>>> again. Have a great day.
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis Pack
>>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
>>>> Office Professional Plus 2007
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>>>> and
>>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>>>> multi-booting
>>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper
>>>>> if I
>>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>>>> resolve
>>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>>>>> notes
>>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86,
>>>>> XP Pro
>>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>>>> more
>>>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the
>>>>> Word
>>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>>>> Office,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>>>> reposting,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

Hi, Colin.

Great job! At least, I think so. But I haven't really absorbed the whole
"Greypaper" - and this whole thread - yet because I don't really have that
issue. I've used System Restore only a few times, and I seldom boot into
WinXP anymore.

But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(

<paste>
In other words, I boot into XP Pro x86 to rename its system volume, and then
XP Pro x64 to name its system volume, etc.
Example: for my quad-boot AMD test box I name the system volumes as follows:
"XP Pro x86", "XP Pro x6", "Vista x86", "Vista x64".
</paste>

I agree wholeheartedly with your advice to rename those volumes! But those
are the BOOT volumes, not the SYSTEM volumes. Remember, those terms are
counterintuitive, based on legacy issues that go back at least 20 years. As
many authors have pointed out, we BOOT from the SYSTEM partition and keep
the operating SYSTEM files in the BOOT volume.

When this comes up in these newsgroups, I usually refer the poster to KB
article 314470:
Definitions for system volume and boot volume
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314470/EN-US/

As that article says, "There is only one system volume. However, there is
one boot volume for each operating system in a multiboot system." If you
just change "system volume" to "boot volume" each time it occurs in that
paragraph, I won't quibble any more. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and
> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
> multi-booting
> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I
> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve
> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
> notes
> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
> Pro
> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more
> than just dual-booting.
>
> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word
> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
> Office,
> etc.
>
> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
> first", its all in the doc already.
>
> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
> reposting,
> etc.
>
> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
 
Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

Whoops!

> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(

Make that Step One. (It's really embarrassing to goof up while
criticizing.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:3A51F099-CDFB-421A-ADED-5800D1FB225D@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Colin.
>
> Great job! At least, I think so. But I haven't really absorbed the whole
> "Greypaper" - and this whole thread - yet because I don't really have that
> issue. I've used System Restore only a few times, and I seldom boot into
> WinXP anymore.
>
> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(
<SNIP>
 
Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

LOL. Thanks for the correction.

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:047712D4-F6DB-4563-8473-877B42BFB5D2@microsoft.com...
> Whoops!
>
>> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(
>
> Make that Step One. (It's really embarrassing to goof up while
> criticizing.)
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:3A51F099-CDFB-421A-ADED-5800D1FB225D@microsoft.com...
>> Hi, Colin.
>>
>> Great job! At least, I think so. But I haven't really absorbed the
>> whole "Greypaper" - and this whole thread - yet because I don't really
>> have that issue. I've used System Restore only a few times, and I seldom
>> boot into WinXP anymore.
>>
>> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(
> <SNIP>
 
Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
commentary as well.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and
> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
> multi-booting
> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I
> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve
> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
> notes
> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
> Pro
> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more
> than just dual-booting.
>
> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word
> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
> Office,
> etc.
>
> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
> first", its all in the doc already.
>
> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
> reposting,
> etc.
>
> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Forgot to mention that the edited version is attached.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
> commentary as well.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and
>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>> multi-booting
>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I
>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve
>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>> notes
>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>> Pro
>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more
>> than just dual-booting.
>>
>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word
>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>> Office,
>> etc.
>>
>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>
>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>> reposting,
>> etc.
>>
>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>
>
 
Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

Now that I think of it, I really don't care about boot or system. I could
just as easily have said "any volume with Vista VSS files on it." After
all, a CompletePC Backup user would not keep the images on any of the system
volumes but would save them to another volume altogether. That volume would
need to be hidden from XP as well. I haven't gone into that detail in the
GP because the user needs to work that one out based on his backup plan.

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:3A51F099-CDFB-421A-ADED-5800D1FB225D@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Colin.
>
> Great job! At least, I think so. But I haven't really absorbed the whole
> "Greypaper" - and this whole thread - yet because I don't really have that
> issue. I've used System Restore only a few times, and I seldom boot into
> WinXP anymore.
>
> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(
>
> <paste>
> In other words, I boot into XP Pro x86 to rename its system volume, and
> then XP Pro x64 to name its system volume, etc.
> Example: for my quad-boot AMD test box I name the system volumes as
> follows:
> "XP Pro x86", "XP Pro x6", "Vista x86", "Vista x64".
> </paste>
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with your advice to rename those volumes! But
> those are the BOOT volumes, not the SYSTEM volumes. Remember, those terms
> are counterintuitive, based on legacy issues that go back at least 20
> years. As many authors have pointed out, we BOOT from the SYSTEM
> partition and keep the operating SYSTEM files in the BOOT volume.
>
> When this comes up in these newsgroups, I usually refer the poster to KB
> article 314470:
> Definitions for system volume and boot volume
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314470/EN-US/
>
> As that article says, "There is only one system volume. However, there is
> one boot volume for each operating system in a multiboot system." If you
> just change "system volume" to "boot volume" each time it occurs in that
> paragraph, I won't quibble any more. ;^}
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and
>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>> multi-booting
>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I
>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve
>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>> notes
>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>> Pro
>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more
>> than just dual-booting.
>>
>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word
>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>> Office,
>> etc.
>>
>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>
>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>> reposting,
>> etc.
>>
>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Thanks Colin :)

I can't actually remember when I last had XP actually installed on this box.
I keep it caged in a VM these days :)

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
> commentary as well.
>


--
Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Hi, Colin.

Thanks. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
> commentary as well.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and
>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>> multi-booting
>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I
>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve
>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>> notes
>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>> Pro
>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more
>> than just dual-booting.
>>
>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word
>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>> Office,
>> etc.
>>
>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>
>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>> reposting,
>> etc.
>>
>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Colin:
You forgot the (\) before "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:".
--
Dennis Pack
XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
Office Professional Plus 2007
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:357CC204-5312-4804-8350-4A5393BD8F0D@microsoft.com...
> Forgot to mention that the edited version is attached.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
>> commentary as well.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>> and
>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>> multi-booting
>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if
>>> I
>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>> resolve
>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>>> notes
>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>>> Pro
>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>> more
>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>
>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word
>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>> Office,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>
>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>> reposting,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Aha. Fixed. Attached. Thanks.

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:49DB358E-0836-400A-810E-589C7E290A99@microsoft.com...
> Colin:
> You forgot the (\) before "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:".
> --
> Dennis Pack
> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
> Office Professional Plus 2007
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:357CC204-5312-4804-8350-4A5393BD8F0D@microsoft.com...
>> Forgot to mention that the edited version is attached.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
>>> commentary as well.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>>> and
>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>>> multi-booting
>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if
>>>> I
>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>>> resolve
>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>>>> notes
>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP
>>>> Pro
>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>>> more
>>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>>
>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the
>>>> Word
>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>>> Office,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>>> reposting,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Hey Colin,

Just wanted to let you know, now that I am getting some critical apps
installed and running on my Vista 64 bit, I gave this a go this morning.

Worked very well, my two Vista partitions are now hidden from XP, and Vista
is retaining restore points now.

Many thanks again!


--
Don






"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:901FC7BC-8EAC-40E9-A492-C2ACA526D46C@microsoft.com...
> Aha. Fixed. Attached. Thanks.
>
> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:49DB358E-0836-400A-810E-589C7E290A99@microsoft.com...
>> Colin:
>> You forgot the (\) before "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:".
>> --
>> Dennis Pack
>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
>> Office Professional Plus 2007
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:357CC204-5312-4804-8350-4A5393BD8F0D@microsoft.com...
>>> Forgot to mention that the edited version is attached.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
>>>> commentary as well.
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>>>> and
>>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>>>> multi-booting
>>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper
>>>>> if
>>>>> I
>>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>>>> resolve
>>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own
>>>>> notes
>>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86,
>>>>> XP
>>>>> Pro
>>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>>>> more
>>>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the
>>>>> Word
>>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>>>> Office,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>>>> reposting,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Re: Updated: Hiding Vista volumes from XP

Great to hear.

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2D823D85-0112-45FA-8605-53D25EEF996F@microsoft.com...
> Hey Colin,
>
> Just wanted to let you know, now that I am getting some critical apps
> installed and running on my Vista 64 bit, I gave this a go this morning.
>
> Worked very well, my two Vista partitions are now hidden from XP, and
> Vista is retaining restore points now.
>
> Many thanks again!
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:901FC7BC-8EAC-40E9-A492-C2ACA526D46C@microsoft.com...
>> Aha. Fixed. Attached. Thanks.
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:49DB358E-0836-400A-810E-589C7E290A99@microsoft.com...
>>> Colin:
>>> You forgot the (\) before "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:".
>>> --
>>> Dennis Pack
>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64
>>> Office Professional Plus 2007
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:357CC204-5312-4804-8350-4A5393BD8F0D@microsoft.com...
>>>> Forgot to mention that the edited version is attached.
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:42AC8F6B-3E51-4C00-9339-E61E361B478E@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Thanks for the corrections, all. I have changed some things in the
>>>>> commentary as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when
>>>>>> multi-booting
>>>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to
>>>>>> resolve
>>>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> notes
>>>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86,
>>>>>> XP
>>>>>> Pro
>>>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than just dual-booting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the
>>>>>> Word
>>>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open
>>>>>> Office,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything
>>>>>> first", its all in the doc already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,
>>>>>> reposting,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
 
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