Future of XP Professional x64

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I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions of
their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can we
count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't decide
whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to Vista
64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64



"Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?

There *is* no future for XP 64.

Tom Lake
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

On the other hand it is not going away as long as we have the Server family.
Officially, XP x64 is announced to be with us at least untill 2014, wasn't
it? You are not going to wake up one morning and find it slowly evaporating.

But sure, MS will certainly be elbowing you towards it's own interpretation
of the 'Right Direction', and using it's own interpretation of the term:
"Gentle Violence"!

So far, I have decided XP stays where it is.


Tony. . .


"Tom Lake" <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
>
> Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
>
> There *is* no future for XP 64.
>
> Tom Lake
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Personally I find XP64 more stable than Vista64. You will undoubtedly find
fewer and fewer drivers being developed due to the small install base.
Vista64 out of the box had drivers for older hardware that never had XP64
drivers. Microsoft's support will be around for quite a while as Tony
notes.

"Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions of
> their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can we
> count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
> gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't decide
> whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
> Vista
> 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

As a side-note:

any bit of hardware that somehow targets the Servers WILL have a driver in
the future as well, I think it's safe to bet?


Tony. . .


"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
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> Personally I find XP64 more stable than Vista64. You will undoubtedly
find
> fewer and fewer drivers being developed due to the small install base.
> Vista64 out of the box had drivers for older hardware that never had XP64
> drivers. Microsoft's support will be around for quite a while as Tony
> notes.
>
> "Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
> >I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions
of
> > their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can
we
> > count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
> > gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't
decide
> > whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
> > Vista
> > 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Looks like a good bet.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:Ovq1aHFgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> As a side-note:
>
> any bit of hardware that somehow targets the Servers WILL have a driver in
> the future as well, I think it's safe to bet?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:OTYDZ8EgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Personally I find XP64 more stable than Vista64. You will undoubtedly
> find
>> fewer and fewer drivers being developed due to the small install base.
>> Vista64 out of the box had drivers for older hardware that never had XP64
>> drivers. Microsoft's support will be around for quite a while as Tony
>> notes.
>>
>> "Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
>> >I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions
> of
>> > their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can
> we
>> > count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
>> > gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't
> decide
>> > whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
>> > Vista
>> > 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
>>
>
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

According to the Lifecycle tables XP Pro x64 will remain in mainstream
support for 24 months following the general public availability of its
successor (Vista Business x64), which translates to Jan 2009. It will be in
extended support for five years after that, or Jan 2014. Go with Vista.

Since there will be no extended support period for Vista Home Basic, Home
Premium, or Ultimate I suggest you go with Vista Business so that after the
end of mainstream support in 2012 you will have extended support until 2017.

"Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
>I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions of
> their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can we
> count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
> gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't decide
> whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
> Vista
> 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

XP x64 will live in our hearts forever.
It was (still is) like our first love, our first kiss with the 64-bit girl.
Feelin' kinda romantic on this sunny supersouthern noon...
:)
Carlos

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> According to the Lifecycle tables XP Pro x64 will remain in mainstream
> support for 24 months following the general public availability of its
> successor (Vista Business x64), which translates to Jan 2009. It will be in
> extended support for five years after that, or Jan 2014. Go with Vista.
>
> Since there will be no extended support period for Vista Home Basic, Home
> Premium, or Ultimate I suggest you go with Vista Business so that after the
> end of mainstream support in 2012 you will have extended support until 2017.
>
> "Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
> >I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions of
> > their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can we
> > count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
> > gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't decide
> > whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
> > Vista
> > 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

I feel the same way.

At least XP Pro x64 will have an extended support period, which is more than
can be said for Ultimate x64.

I am also troubled at the prospect that users of lowly XP Home will have the
last laugh on us users of mighty Vista Ultimate. According to the Lifecycle
tables and the FAQ, XP Home will continue to receive security updates for
two years AFTER Vista Ultimate goes completely out of support. What a
head-scratcher that one is.

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:81736057-3109-4CE7-BEC0-983A7840787C@microsoft.com...
> XP x64 will live in our hearts forever.
> It was (still is) like our first love, our first kiss with the 64-bit
> girl.
> Feelin' kinda romantic on this sunny supersouthern noon...
> :)
> Carlos
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> According to the Lifecycle tables XP Pro x64 will remain in mainstream
>> support for 24 months following the general public availability of its
>> successor (Vista Business x64), which translates to Jan 2009. It will be
>> in
>> extended support for five years after that, or Jan 2014. Go with Vista.
>>
>> Since there will be no extended support period for Vista Home Basic, Home
>> Premium, or Ultimate I suggest you go with Vista Business so that after
>> the
>> end of mainstream support in 2012 you will have extended support until
>> 2017.
>>
>> "Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
>> >I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions
>> >of
>> > their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware ) Can
>> > we
>> > count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning to
>> > gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't
>> > decide
>> > whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
>> > Vista
>> > 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
>>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

You can't count on those drivers working for XP x64, even though they're the
same code base. I've found a few that will install on Server 2k3 x64, that
won't install on XP x64, and vice-versa. It depends on the way the driver is
presented. (I suspect some intelligent editing of the INF would get around
the limitations, however. )

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
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> Looks like a good bet.
>
> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> news:Ovq1aHFgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> As a side-note:
>>
>> any bit of hardware that somehow targets the Servers WILL have a driver
>> in
>> the future as well, I think it's safe to bet?
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:OTYDZ8EgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Personally I find XP64 more stable than Vista64. You will undoubtedly
>> find
>>> fewer and fewer drivers being developed due to the small install base.
>>> Vista64 out of the box had drivers for older hardware that never had
>>> XP64
>>> drivers. Microsoft's support will be around for quite a while as Tony
>>> notes.
>>>
>>> "Music64" <Music64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0F356288-F558-454D-9AED-80C03EC33AF2@microsoft.com...
>>> >I have noticed a number of software developers offering 64 bit versions
>> of
>>> > their applications for Vista 64 only. ( also drivers for hardware )
>>> > Can
>> we
>>> > count on XP Pro 64 to be around for a while or is Microsoft planning
>>> > to
>>> > gently guide us to Vista ? I am currently at a crossroads and can't
>> decide
>>> > whether to change apps and hardware to match XP Pro 64 or change OS to
>>> > Vista
>>> > 64. Any thoughts on the future of XP Pro 64 ?
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

If you look at the Windows OS Lifecycle page, you'll see that Windows XP x64
Edition is on the same availability timeline as Windows XP. The page
currently shows Windows XP Professional, XP Tablet PC Edition, Professional
x64 Edition, XP Home, and XP Media Center Edition all at:

Direct OEM and Retail License Availability (end date) June 30, 2008
System Builder License Availability (end date) January
31, 2009

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx

Because Windows XP Professional Edition was released a few years later than
Windows XP, the support timeline is likely to be a bit longer and seems like
it will end up being on the same dates as Windows Server 2003.

In any case, it's really up to the software and hardware vendors as to how
long they will continue to provide support for Windows XP x64 Edition for
their products. The current Windows logo programs (Works With Windows Vista,
Certified for Windows Vista, Games for Windows, etc.) mandate 64-bit (x64)
support for Windows Vista, but do not mandate support for Windows XP
Professional x64 Edition.

--
-Chuck Walbourn
SDE, XNA Developer Connection

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no rights.
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Chuck, the real killer is that there is no extended support period for Vista
Ultimate (or VHB and VHP), only Business and Enterprise. That means that I
will continue to get security updates for my XP Pro x64 for two AFTER after
WU stops offering updates of any kind for my Vista Ultimate x64. That also
means that XP users will get the last laugh on me after all. Some XP Home
scriptkiddy gets updates and I get nada. That sucks!

"Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7BF53A85-AAF7-49E6-B2CB-DA513E8B8C70@microsoft.com...
> If you look at the Windows OS Lifecycle page, you'll see that Windows XP
> x64 Edition is on the same availability timeline as Windows XP. The page
> currently shows Windows XP Professional, XP Tablet PC Edition,
> Professional x64 Edition, XP Home, and XP Media Center Edition all at:
>
> Direct OEM and Retail License Availability (end date) June 30, 2008
> System Builder License Availability (end date) January
> 31, 2009
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
>
> Because Windows XP Professional Edition was released a few years later
> than Windows XP, the support timeline is likely to be a bit longer and
> seems like it will end up being on the same dates as Windows Server 2003.
>
> In any case, it's really up to the software and hardware vendors as to how
> long they will continue to provide support for Windows XP x64 Edition for
> their products. The current Windows logo programs (Works With Windows
> Vista, Certified for Windows Vista, Games for Windows, etc.) mandate
> 64-bit (x64) support for Windows Vista, but do not mandate support for
> Windows XP Professional x64 Edition.
>
> --
> -Chuck Walbourn
> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no
> rights.
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Correction: "AFTER" sb "years"

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:B6EB6934-80D0-4ABF-8D47-E4F7B90CB727@microsoft.com...
> Chuck, the real killer is that there is no extended support period for
> Vista Ultimate (or VHB and VHP), only Business and Enterprise. That means
> that I will continue to get security updates for my XP Pro x64 for two
> AFTER after WU stops offering updates of any kind for my Vista Ultimate
> x64. That also means that XP users will get the last laugh on me after
> all. Some XP Home scriptkiddy gets updates and I get nada. That sucks!
>
> "Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7BF53A85-AAF7-49E6-B2CB-DA513E8B8C70@microsoft.com...
>> If you look at the Windows OS Lifecycle page, you'll see that Windows XP
>> x64 Edition is on the same availability timeline as Windows XP. The page
>> currently shows Windows XP Professional, XP Tablet PC Edition,
>> Professional x64 Edition, XP Home, and XP Media Center Edition all at:
>>
>> Direct OEM and Retail License Availability (end date) June 30,
>> 2008
>> System Builder License Availability (end date) January
>> 31, 2009
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
>>
>> Because Windows XP Professional Edition was released a few years later
>> than Windows XP, the support timeline is likely to be a bit longer and
>> seems like it will end up being on the same dates as Windows Server 2003.
>>
>> In any case, it's really up to the software and hardware vendors as to
>> how long they will continue to provide support for Windows XP x64 Edition
>> for their products. The current Windows logo programs (Works With Windows
>> Vista, Certified for Windows Vista, Games for Windows, etc.) mandate
>> 64-bit (x64) support for Windows Vista, but do not mandate support for
>> Windows XP Professional x64 Edition.
>>
>> --
>> -Chuck Walbourn
>> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no
>> rights.
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

If you read our Lifecycle FAQ (http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy)
you see that we only offer Extended Support for "Business and Developer
products" not "Consumer, Hardware, and Multimedia products". There's some
internal debate about whether or not Ultimate should be treated as a
"Consumer" or a "Corporate" SKU when it's designed to be the union of the
two, so that's likely why the webpage lists "N/A" for Ultimate. That could
well change depending on how many business & developer customers end up
standardizing on Ultimate instead of Business/Enterprise.

In any case, remember that the Microsoft Support Lifecycle only applies to
Windows itself. Microsoft will provide updates for the OS, and under
Extended Support Microsoft will continue to provide updates and support but
in some cases will require a paid extended hotfix agreement. Microsoft
product teams are free to stop supporting a version of Windows once it
leaves "Mainstream Support", and third party suppliers of software,
hardware, and applications are free to do whatever they want. The incentive
marketing programs like the Windows logo programs are built with "Mainstream
Support" in mind, and typically are silent on the need to support down-level
versions of Windows. There's nothing in the Works With Windows Vista,
Certified for Windows Vista, or Games for Windows programs that says it has
to work on anything except Windows Vista. These programs do not preclude
supporting older versions, but they don't mandate it either.

--
-Chuck Walbourn
SDE, XNA Developer Connection

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no rights.
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Chuck,

I read the Lifecycle FAQ and that is why I am raising the issue. I
understand that the present policy was established after the lifecycle
policy was set for XP but you can take my comment back to the team that
extended support for XP Home and no extended support for Vista Ultimate is
not the way to encourage sales of Ultimate.

I am now recommending Vista Business in the newsgroups to prospective buyers
because of the extended support issues. I beleive that it is important
enough over time to influence a choice. I am encouraging MVPs and other
technology enthusiasts to do the same. Eligibility for extended support is
a valuable asset and I wish now I had not chosen Ultimate because of it.

I don't even want to start on how disappointing the Ultimate Extras program
has been over the first five quarters that Ultimate has been available.

I call on others reading this thread to share their thoughts on this.

"Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A3A4E8C8-ABC0-4718-8F41-10231A26E003@microsoft.com...
> If you read our Lifecycle FAQ (http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy)
> you see that we only offer Extended Support for "Business and Developer
> products" not "Consumer, Hardware, and Multimedia products". There's some
> internal debate about whether or not Ultimate should be treated as a
> "Consumer" or a "Corporate" SKU when it's designed to be the union of the
> two, so that's likely why the webpage lists "N/A" for Ultimate. That could
> well change depending on how many business & developer customers end up
> standardizing on Ultimate instead of Business/Enterprise.
>
> In any case, remember that the Microsoft Support Lifecycle only applies to
> Windows itself. Microsoft will provide updates for the OS, and under
> Extended Support Microsoft will continue to provide updates and support
> but in some cases will require a paid extended hotfix agreement. Microsoft
> product teams are free to stop supporting a version of Windows once it
> leaves "Mainstream Support", and third party suppliers of software,
> hardware, and applications are free to do whatever they want. The
> incentive marketing programs like the Windows logo programs are built with
> "Mainstream Support" in mind, and typically are silent on the need to
> support down-level versions of Windows. There's nothing in the Works With
> Windows Vista, Certified for Windows Vista, or Games for Windows programs
> that says it has to work on anything except Windows Vista. These programs
> do not preclude supporting older versions, but they don't mandate it
> either.
>
> --
> -Chuck Walbourn
> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no
> rights.
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Ha, ha!

(Sorry)


Tony. . .


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:B6EB6934-80D0-4ABF-8D47-E4F7B90CB727@microsoft.com...
> Chuck, the real killer is that there is no extended support period for
Vista
> Ultimate (or VHB and VHP), only Business and Enterprise. That means that
I
> will continue to get security updates for my XP Pro x64 for two AFTER
after
> WU stops offering updates of any kind for my Vista Ultimate x64. That
also
> means that XP users will get the last laugh on me after all. Some XP Home
> scriptkiddy gets updates and I get nada. That sucks!
>
> "Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7BF53A85-AAF7-49E6-B2CB-DA513E8B8C70@microsoft.com...
> > If you look at the Windows OS Lifecycle page, you'll see that Windows XP
> > x64 Edition is on the same availability timeline as Windows XP. The page
> > currently shows Windows XP Professional, XP Tablet PC Edition,
> > Professional x64 Edition, XP Home, and XP Media Center Edition all at:
> >
> > Direct OEM and Retail License Availability (end date) June 30,
2008
> > System Builder License Availability (end date)
January
> > 31, 2009
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
> >
> > Because Windows XP Professional Edition was released a few years later
> > than Windows XP, the support timeline is likely to be a bit longer and
> > seems like it will end up being on the same dates as Windows Server
2003.
> >
> > In any case, it's really up to the software and hardware vendors as to
how
> > long they will continue to provide support for Windows XP x64 Edition
for
> > their products. The current Windows logo programs (Works With Windows
> > Vista, Certified for Windows Vista, Games for Windows, etc.) mandate
> > 64-bit (x64) support for Windows Vista, but do not mandate support for
> > Windows XP Professional x64 Edition.
> >
> > --
> > -Chuck Walbourn
> > SDE, XNA Developer Connection
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no
> > rights.
>
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

The choice of which edition of Windows Vista to get/recommend should be a
function of features. If you want Windows Parental Controls and/or Media
Center, you should get Home Basic or Home Premium. If you want domain join
or remote desktop, you should get Business/Enterprise. If you want both
consumer and corporate features, you get Ultimate. Enterprise is only
available as a volume licensing SKU, and is therefore not an option for an
individual to purchase.

I agree the messaging of this 'extended support period' is a little odd, but
I don't think I'd make a decision as an individual based on this either way.
It may well matter to a large corporation planning to deploy a major upgrade
they hope will last for a decade and want to make sure they can purchase a
hotfix agreement to get continued Premium support, but for most consumers
that's well past the life of the actual computer itself.

In any case, the original post was about the future of Windows XP
Professional x64, which I think is answered pretty well by the Lifecycle
discussion so far.

--
-Chuck Walbourn
SDE, XNA Developer Connection

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no rights.
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

Chuck,

If the differentiation between editions by MS Marketing as demostrated in
places like the EULA and the Lifecycle were based on features I might buy
into your reasoning about purchasing on features. But putting restrictions
on use in the EULA purely to "add value" to some editions over others turns
me off as a consumer. Then MS amended the EULA in response to customer
objections, which I thought was embarassing to MS. I'll bet the whole thing
could have been avoided if Marketing had listened to the product teams.

A case in point of course is the restriction on the virtualization of VHB
and VHP in the Vista consumer EULA. If Ultimate were truly a consumer
edition then why wasn't it included in the EULA prohibition of
virtualization too? Because Marketing was artificially differentiating
editions for pricing, that's why. It had nothing to do with features or
whether Ultimate was consumer or business. I don't think that
differentiating editions by making some ineligible for extended support is
any better.

Colin

"Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4FF0A8F1-667A-4F35-8D71-7CDC8BE0373C@microsoft.com...
> The choice of which edition of Windows Vista to get/recommend should be a
> function of features. If you want Windows Parental Controls and/or Media
> Center, you should get Home Basic or Home Premium. If you want domain join
> or remote desktop, you should get Business/Enterprise. If you want both
> consumer and corporate features, you get Ultimate. Enterprise is only
> available as a volume licensing SKU, and is therefore not an option for an
> individual to purchase.
>
> I agree the messaging of this 'extended support period' is a little odd,
> but I don't think I'd make a decision as an individual based on this
> either way. It may well matter to a large corporation planning to deploy a
> major upgrade they hope will last for a decade and want to make sure they
> can purchase a hotfix agreement to get continued Premium support, but for
> most consumers that's well past the life of the actual computer itself.
>
> In any case, the original post was about the future of Windows XP
> Professional x64, which I think is answered pretty well by the Lifecycle
> discussion so far.
>
> --
> -Chuck Walbourn
> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no
> rights.
 
Re: Future of XP Professional x64

I think Colin makes an interesting case on the subject of extended support.
Certainly, if I need features that are only available in Ultimate or Home
Premium, then I clearly _must_ buy Ultimate, since domain join is an
absolute requirement. Should my business then be penalized and my support
options limited? That makes no sense - I made a business decision to go with
Ultimate on some machines because of the compelling features and the "all
in" nature of it. Not because I wanted or expected a shorter time line for
support.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4FF0A8F1-667A-4F35-8D71-7CDC8BE0373C@microsoft.com...
> The choice of which edition of Windows Vista to get/recommend should be a
> function of features. If you want Windows Parental Controls and/or Media
> Center, you should get Home Basic or Home Premium. If you want domain join
> or remote desktop, you should get Business/Enterprise. If you want both
> consumer and corporate features, you get Ultimate. Enterprise is only
> available as a volume licensing SKU, and is therefore not an option for an
> individual to purchase.
>
> I agree the messaging of this 'extended support period' is a little odd,
> but I don't think I'd make a decision as an individual based on this
> either way. It may well matter to a large corporation planning to deploy a
> major upgrade they hope will last for a decade and want to make sure they
> can purchase a hotfix agreement to get continued Premium support, but for
> most consumers that's well past the life of the actual computer itself.
>
> In any case, the original post was about the future of Windows XP
> Professional x64, which I think is answered pretty well by the Lifecycle
> discussion so far.
>
> --
> -Chuck Walbourn
> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
>
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Re: Future of XP Professional x64

And "get nada" should be "get nothing".
:))))
Carlos

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Correction: "AFTER" sb "years"
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:B6EB6934-80D0-4ABF-8D47-E4F7B90CB727@microsoft.com...
> > Chuck, the real killer is that there is no extended support period for
> > Vista Ultimate (or VHB and VHP), only Business and Enterprise. That means
> > that I will continue to get security updates for my XP Pro x64 for two
> > AFTER after WU stops offering updates of any kind for my Vista Ultimate
> > x64. That also means that XP users will get the last laugh on me after
> > all. Some XP Home scriptkiddy gets updates and I get nada. That sucks!
> >
> > "Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7BF53A85-AAF7-49E6-B2CB-DA513E8B8C70@microsoft.com...
> >> If you look at the Windows OS Lifecycle page, you'll see that Windows XP
> >> x64 Edition is on the same availability timeline as Windows XP. The page
> >> currently shows Windows XP Professional, XP Tablet PC Edition,
> >> Professional x64 Edition, XP Home, and XP Media Center Edition all at:
> >>
> >> Direct OEM and Retail License Availability (end date) June 30,
> >> 2008
> >> System Builder License Availability (end date) January
> >> 31, 2009
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
> >>
> >> Because Windows XP Professional Edition was released a few years later
> >> than Windows XP, the support timeline is likely to be a bit longer and
> >> seems like it will end up being on the same dates as Windows Server 2003.
> >>
> >> In any case, it's really up to the software and hardware vendors as to
> >> how long they will continue to provide support for Windows XP x64 Edition
> >> for their products. The current Windows logo programs (Works With Windows
> >> Vista, Certified for Windows Vista, Games for Windows, etc.) mandate
> >> 64-bit (x64) support for Windows Vista, but do not mandate support for
> >> Windows XP Professional x64 Edition.
> >>
> >> --
> >> -Chuck Walbourn
> >> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warrenties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >
>
 
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