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Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....


"Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:39:02 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:
>
>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:y9x7a0sbcefh.1fmxes83ivsja.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:36:00 -0000, Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:m36lc0nldhqr$.137wb3hjyyr40$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ThinkPads have very good support for Linux (or is it vice versa?) and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> done for years. Just because Lenovo is not making Linux versions of
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the utilities does not mean that there are not open-source
>>>>>> alternatives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look here:
>>>>>> http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a Linux version?
>>>>>
>>>>> Learn to read......
>>>>>
>>>>> The Thinkpad is SOLD Pre-loaded with Ubuntu Linux direct from
>>>>> Lenovo!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So? I thought you were making a big deal out of the fact that they
>>>> haven't
>>>> made Linux versions of the ThinkVantage utilities? As I said, there
>>>> are
>>>> open-source alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> ss.
>>>
>>> No.
>>> I'm making a big deal about a POS Linux machine that half works out of
>>> the
>>> box being sold by the #3 computer manufacturer in world.
>>
>> If it has OpenOffice on it, it they comes with more functionality than
>> does
>> Vista.
>>
>> Yep, Microsoft and Intel walked away from this one, as the laptop sells
>> with
>> the OS for about the same price as Vista OR a processor capable of
>> running
>> Vista. Trouble is, Vista can't run itself, it needs a $1000 worth of
>> hardware on top of its price tag.
>>
>> They made it this way to keep costs down. And Intel nor Microsoft are
>> really cost effective for what they are trying to do.
>>
>> Funny how Microsoft Borg like to kick OLPC.....after leaving in a pout.
>
> Yawwn...
> Can't you Linux loonies ever actually address the topic?
>
> Keep costs down?
>
> Selling a laptop with Linux on it that DOESN"T SUPPORT THE HARDWARE?
>
> Oh yea, that's a great way to keep costs down.
>
> OpenOffice is available for Windows as well.
> It's free too.
> Virtually nobody is using it.
> I wonder why that is?

People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would be
surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for MS-Office
themselves.

If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
growing faster than Linux.
 
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Re: Moshe Goldfarb is Micoshaft Corporation

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:25:38 GMT, 7 wrote:

> Micoshaft Fraudster and Asstroturfer Moshe Goldfarb wrote on behalf of
> Micoshaft Corporation:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:56:10 -0400, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>
>>> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>>> news:NZAEj.26330$XI.19949@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>
>>> <huge load of unreadable drivel snipped>
>>>
>>> Apparently Linux has no spelling/grammer checker.
>>
>> Joseph Michael, aka 7, is not one of the sharper Linux advocates.
>
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
>
> But of course you are!

This is not about me it's about you, Joey.....

> Somehow I think asstroturfers like you are just paid to post by Micoshaft
> corporation because Micoshaft (your sponsor and funding party)
> is afraid of Linux.

I don't like Microsoft at all.
I like Linux.
I just dislike lying, wacko Linux zealots, like you.

> Linux is free and replacing 1 million+ destops per month and the
> rate is increasing.

Yea..sure it is Joey.

> You are just afraid everyone else will start downloading for
> free Linux and copy and install on as many machines as they like
> because it is free and released under GPL license. It comes with
> source code so that you can modify and install it in
> your gadgets. Thats why all the college students had rushed
> off into Linux eons ago and now sell 3 million+ embedded
> Linux gadgets PER DAY!!! That is raking in revenues of $200+ billion
> per year.

Millions download it.
Millions dump it and re-install Windows.
Your point?

--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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"Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> You are just afraid everyone else will start downloading for
>> free Linux and copy and install on as many machines as they like
>> because it is free and released under GPL license. It comes with
>> source code so that you can modify and install it in
>> your gadgets. Thats why all the college students had rushed
>> off into Linux eons ago and now sell 3 million+ embedded
>> Linux gadgets PER DAY!!! That is raking in revenues of $200+ billion
>> per year.
>
> Millions download it.
> Millions dump it and re-install Windows.
> Your point?

They re-install Windows on embedded systems? DUH..

ss.
 
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Re: Moshe Goldfarb is Micoshaft Corporation

> Linux is free and replacing 1 million+ destops per month and the
> rate is increasing.

I'm curious. Where does this number come from? Taken literally it means that
Linux will be on more desktops than Vista in 100 months, but we all know that
isn't going to happen. ;) At least not with the current technologies.
Actually, less than 8ish years because I've seen this number in this forum
before but I can't find any references to it in our friend Google.
 
Re: Moshe Goldfarb is Micoshaft Corporation

Re: Moshe Goldfarb is Micoshaft Corporation

When the fax machine was invented it was absolutely useless until the second
was was made. The value of the first machine has increased exponentially as
each machine came on line and has virtually no bounds. Linux or ANY open
system product by design has a peak. It will have early adopters, ramp up,
and then ramp down just as quickly due to it's premise. Its downfall is its
strength, open systems. The more you let people make changes, the more the
systems become non-interoperable. So the early people buy and use it, they
make changes, they isolate each other due to "independent greatness, each
one trying to outdo each other". Then they die. QED. "And that's the way
it is."

--
Regards, BobF.
"PNutts" <pnutterfield@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Linux is free and replacing 1 million+ destops per month and the
>> rate is increasing.
>
> I'm curious. Where does this number come from? Taken literally it means
> that
> Linux will be on more desktops than Vista in 100 months, but we all know
> that
> isn't going to happen. ;) At least not with the current technologies.
> Actually, less than 8ish years because I've seen this number in this forum
> before but I can't find any references to it in our friend Google.
 
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Re: Moshe Goldfarb is Micoshaft Corporation

"PNutts" <pnutterfield@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5C07D178-732D-4301-BF15-DCEC06C7F81F@microsoft.com...
>> Linux is free and replacing 1 million+ destops per month and the
>> rate is increasing.
>
> I'm curious. Where does this number come from? Taken literally it means
> that
> Linux will be on more desktops than Vista in 100 months, but we all know
> that
> isn't going to happen. ;) At least not with the current technologies.
> Actually, less than 8ish years because I've seen this number in this forum
> before but I can't find any references to it in our friend Google.

Nor have I. Just another smacktard making sh*t up as he goes along.

--
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Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

Canuck57 <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote:
>
> People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would be
> surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for MS-Office
> themselves.
>
> If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
> growing faster than Linux.

My neighbor recently went back to school and was complaining about
having to buy MS office for her writing class. I gave her a copy of
the Open CD with OpenOffice on it. She is thrilled with it. Zero
problems saving and submitting her papers in Word format. She has
thanked me the last two times I've seen her. She was also going
to try Xubuntu on an old Win98 laptop, but I haven't talked to her
in a while and don't know how that went.

Yup, OO is growing, and along with Firefox can help grease the wheels
toward eventual Linux migration.

Thad
--
Yeah, I drank the Open Source cool-aid... Unlike the other brand, it had
all the ingredients on the label.
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

> I have nothing against the OLP and I said so up front.
> It's a noble project.

We're in agreement.

Tom
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

"thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com" <thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com> stated
in post rkkbb5-pug.ln1@tux.glaci.com on 3/20/08 7:54 PM:

> Canuck57 <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote:
>>
>> People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would be
>> surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for MS-Office
>> themselves.
>>
>> If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
>> growing faster than Linux.
>
> My neighbor recently went back to school and was complaining about
> having to buy MS office for her writing class. I gave her a copy of
> the Open CD with OpenOffice on it. She is thrilled with it. Zero
> problems saving and submitting her papers in Word format. She has
> thanked me the last two times I've seen her. She was also going
> to try Xubuntu on an old Win98 laptop, but I haven't talked to her
> in a while and don't know how that went.
>
> Yup, OO is growing, and along with Firefox can help grease the wheels
> toward eventual Linux migration.
>
> Thad

And in both cases the makers of the programs - OO and FF - have shown they
realize the benefit of making apps that fit the paradigms of Windows or Mac.
Such work is, surely, not easy - but it is clearly a benefit.


--
"Innovation is not about saying yes to everything. It's about saying NO to
all but the most crucial features." -- Steve Jobs
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com wrote:
> Canuck57 <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote:
>>
>> People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would
>> be surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for
>> MS-Office themselves.
>>
>> If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
>> growing faster than Linux.
>
> My neighbor recently went back to school and was complaining about
> having to buy MS office for her writing class. I gave her a copy of
> the Open CD with OpenOffice on it. She is thrilled with it. Zero
> problems saving and submitting her papers in Word format. She has
> thanked me the last two times I've seen her. She was also going
> to try Xubuntu on an old Win98 laptop, but I haven't talked to her
> in a while and don't know how that went.
>
> Yup, OO is growing, and along with Firefox can help grease the wheels
> toward eventual Linux migration.
>

Dog, you were on a roll until you had to throw in that "eventual linux
migration" stuff. That belongs in some alt.fantasy group, not here.
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, OO is growing, and along with Firefox can help grease the wheels
>> toward eventual Linux migration.
>>
>
> Dog, you were on a roll until you had to throw in that "eventual linux
> migration" stuff. That belongs in some alt.fantasy group, not here.

Eh? If we can't indulge our fantasies of Linux world domination in
a Linux advocacy group... why post anything here? >:)

Seriously though, I've actually seen a fair number of successful
Linux desktop migrations, and it can be made easier by replacing
the application stack first and the OS last. This is especially
true when you are migrating an entire enterprise.

Thad
--
Yeah, I drank the Open Source cool-aid... Unlike the other brand, it had
all the ingredients on the label.
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

In article <C4087A33.AF4ED%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>And in both cases the makers of the programs - OO and FF - have shown they
>realize the benefit of making apps that fit the paradigms of Windows or Mac.

Ummm, dude? The "browser" thing was invented on Unix. SunOS,
I seem to recall.
 
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Re: Moshe Goldfarb is Micoshaft Corporation



"Bob F." <bob@abracadabra.com> wrote in message
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> When the fax machine was invented it was absolutely useless until the
> second was was made. The value of the first machine has increased
> exponentially as each machine came on line and has virtually no bounds.
> Linux or ANY open system product by design has a peak. It will have early
> adopters, ramp up, and then ramp down just as quickly due to it's premise.
> Its downfall is its strength, open systems. The more you let people make
> changes, the more the systems become non-interoperable. So the early
> people buy and use it, they make changes, they isolate each other due to
> "independent greatness, each one trying to outdo each other". Then they
> die. QED. "And that's the way it is."
>

Unix went through that cycle several times and it wasn't open.
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

some idiot forging chrisv wrote:

>Dog,

Ignore the forger.
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

* thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Canuck57 <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote:
>>
>> People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would be
>> surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for MS-Office
>> themselves.
>>
>> If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
>> growing faster than Linux.
>
> My neighbor recently went back to school and was complaining about
> having to buy MS office for her writing class. I gave her a copy of
> the Open CD with OpenOffice on it. She is thrilled with it. Zero
> problems saving and submitting her papers in Word format. She has
> thanked me the last two times I've seen her. She was also going
> to try Xubuntu on an old Win98 laptop, but I haven't talked to her
> in a while and don't know how that went.

I just talked to a woman working for her husband's small business, and
she brought up OpenOffice. With regret, because she'd already purchased
an expensive Microsoft product. And was having a hard time figuring out
how to make it do what she wanted (mail-merge, I think).

There is a lot of nice open-source software out there. Why pay big
bucks unless you have to? Getting the word out is key.

--
If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would
all be driving $25 cars that got 1000 MPG.
-- Bill Gates
 
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Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> writes:

> * thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Canuck57 <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would be
>>> surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for MS-Office
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
>>> growing faster than Linux.
>>
>> My neighbor recently went back to school and was complaining about
>> having to buy MS office for her writing class. I gave her a copy of
>> the Open CD with OpenOffice on it. She is thrilled with it. Zero
>> problems saving and submitting her papers in Word format. She has
>> thanked me the last two times I've seen her. She was also going
>> to try Xubuntu on an old Win98 laptop, but I haven't talked to her
>> in a while and don't know how that went.
>
> I just talked to a woman working for her husband's small business, and
> she brought up OpenOffice. With regret, because she'd already purchased
> an expensive Microsoft product. And was having a hard time figuring out
> how to make it do what she wanted (mail-merge, I think).

You "think"? More lies.

So how did she do it with OO?


> There is a lot of nice open-source software out there. Why pay big
> bucks unless you have to? Getting the word out is key.

No. Getting it working properly is key.

--
.... but hey, this is Linux, isn't it meant to do infinite loops in 5
seconds?
-- Jonathan Oxer in the apt-cacher ChangeLog
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yup, OO is growing, and along with Firefox can help grease the
>>> wheels toward eventual Linux migration.
>>>
>>
>> Dog, you were on a roll until you had to throw in that "eventual
>> linux migration" stuff. That belongs in some alt.fantasy group, not
>> here.
>
> Eh? If we can't indulge our fantasies of Linux world domination in
> a Linux advocacy group... why post anything here? >:)

There are NOT linux advocacy groups:
alt.os.windows-xp
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

....and this one is a Homosexual advocacy group:
comp.os.linux.advocacy


>
> Seriously though, I've actually seen a fair number of successful
> Linux desktop migrations, and it can be made easier by replacing
> the application stack first and the OS last. This is especially
> true when you are migrating an entire enterprise.

I'll grant there are a couple of linux desktops, what's it up to now, a
hundred?
(I'm being generous.)
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....


"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:frvqim$hqn$1@reader2.panix.com...
> In article <C4087A33.AF4ED%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>And in both cases the makers of the programs - OO and FF - have shown they
>>realize the benefit of making apps that fit the paradigms of Windows or
>>Mac.
>
> Ummm, dude? The "browser" thing was invented on Unix. SunOS,
> I seem to recall.

Still runs there too. Use it on my Solaris Java desktop.
 
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"Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
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>* thad05@tux.glaci.delete-this.com peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Canuck57 <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> People like me, give relatives CDs with OpenOffice on it, you would be
>>> surprised how many people will change if they had to pay for MS-Office
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> If you think nobody is using it, keep your head in the sand. This is
>>> growing faster than Linux.
>>
>> My neighbor recently went back to school and was complaining about
>> having to buy MS office for her writing class. I gave her a copy of
>> the Open CD with OpenOffice on it. She is thrilled with it. Zero
>> problems saving and submitting her papers in Word format. She has
>> thanked me the last two times I've seen her. She was also going
>> to try Xubuntu on an old Win98 laptop, but I haven't talked to her
>> in a while and don't know how that went.
>
> I just talked to a woman working for her husband's small business, and
> she brought up OpenOffice. With regret, because she'd already purchased
> an expensive Microsoft product. And was having a hard time figuring out
> how to make it do what she wanted (mail-merge, I think).
>
> There is a lot of nice open-source software out there. Why pay big
> bucks unless you have to? Getting the word out is key.

Yes, there is. And on my key ring too. Always carry a USB drive with me,
never know when you meet someone that needs OpenOffice, Linux demo, PuTTy,
PGP, Wireshark or something.
 
Re: OLPC Project is Falling Apart...As Predicted.....

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> There are NOT linux advocacy groups:
> alt.os.windows-xp
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

I apologize for not noticing the cross posting when I replied. I'll
remove the off topic groups in any followups.

Thad
--
Yeah, I drank the Open Source cool-aid... Unlike the other brand, it had
all the ingredients on the label.
 
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