Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

MEB · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Hey, no need to be rude to 98 Guy.
|

Ah Dan, backup, you apparently haven't been here for awhile... there is a
good bit of history... Google if you want to catch up..

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| > Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's
the
| > problem, can't figure it out... need some help....
| >
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Dan · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

Okay, I will do that when I get a chance. My goal is to get 98SE stable
again first. I realize now that my big mistake was when I installed 2
gigabytes of ram to not right away go back to 512 mb's and limit 98SE with
msconfig to see only 512 mb's.

"MEB" wrote:

>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BF74CF47-1370-476B-9634-6FEF39356224@microsoft.com...
> | Hey, no need to be rude to 98 Guy.
> |
>
> Ah Dan, backup, you apparently haven't been here for awhile... there is a
> good bit of history... Google if you want to catch up..
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | > Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's
> the
> | > problem, can't figure it out... need some help....
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > ________
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

PCR · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract and
| replace MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest.

You are welcome. Here is what I post for an over-install of IE, which
hopefully would give you a fresh & (nearly?) up-to-date MSVCRT.DLL...

Over-install IE. Try first without, but I believe it will request an
internet connection. Perhaps it is best to let it connect, actually. If
you don't care to get this fancy, just skip to step (c).

(a) Turn off interfering programs. Use http://www.pcmag.com/ 's
"StartupCop" or "EndItAll2". Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab".
Note what is unchecked, if anything. Then, go to the General tab &
disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking
"Load Startup...". Reboot.

(b) Perhaps, if you haven't got EndItAll2, then "Ctrl-Alt-Del" & end
task all but Explorer & Systray. If this goes badly, start again from
top, & skip it next time.

(c) "START, Find, F/F, IE6Setup.exe". Click it in the Find window.

NOTE: If you are IE5, then it's "IE5Setup.exe". If there are more
than one (I have two each), click the one in "C:\WINDOWS\Windows
Update Setup Files" or "C:\Windows Update Setup Files", as applicable.

(d) Re-enable the Startup Group. That will automatically check all
items. Go to the Startup tab & uncheck any noted in step (a). Reboot.

(e) Perhaps go to Windows Update, to see whether it now offers
criticals.

| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from
|> | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D:
|> | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that
|> | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have
|> | uninstalled Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side.
|> | Also, I have unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and
|> | 98SE side. I have checked extensively for viruses, spyware,
|> | adware, etc. and only turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try
|> | and reinstall the Sound Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me
|> | one error message and I am clueless as to what this might mean and
|> | what to do about it. Well I just Googled it and it told me it was
|> | related to Windows Media Player which I have. I have Windows
|> | Media Player 9 on the 98SE side. Should I unistall that too?
|>
|> UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that
|> does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too...
|>
|> UnRegMp2.exe
|> Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility
|> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF
|> Size: 192,512 bytes
|> Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM
|> Ver: 9.00.00.2980
|>
|> But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is
|> what I usually post for it...
|>
|> I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in
|> SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab.
|>
|> MSVCRT.DLL
|> Desc: Microsoft (R) C Runtime Library
|> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
|> Size: 278,581 bytes
|> Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM
|> Ver: 6.00.8797.0
|>
|> That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been
|> updated
|> by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6
|> SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative
|> updates.
|>
|> I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98
|> ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR,
|> maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for
|> that too, if you want.
|>
|> Here is how to do it in DOS...
|>
|> (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
|> Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
|> "C:\Windows\System", thus...
|>
|> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
|> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
|> MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL
|> 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes
|>
|> (b)
|> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll"
|>
|> That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not
|> enter
|> the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there.
|>
|> <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
|> follows...
|>
|> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
|> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
|> BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
|> 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes
|>
|> If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
|> instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it
|> to be
|> located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.
|>
|> So, in my case, the command is...
|>
|> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System
|> C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
|> MSVCRT.dll"
|>
|> All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including
|> one
|> after "Base4.cab".
|>
|> | Thanks for the help and patience
|> | everyone.
|> |
|> | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in
|> | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d.
|> |
|> | Registers:
|> | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206
|> | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0
|> | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f
|> | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000
|> | Bytes at CS:EIP:
|> | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48
|> | Stack dump:
|> | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000
|> | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074
|> | 00740072 00690061
|> |
|> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800
|> |> | XT cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it.
|> |> | I get a remote call out error when I try to install the latest
|> |> | Ati 9800 XT from the downloaded driver and control console that
|> |> | comes with the driver. Let me know if you have any more
|> |> | suggestions as I wade through these ones.
|> |>
|> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or
|> |> connect to some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install
|> |> it? I was hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may
|> |> need to allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly
|> |> empty pages without it!
|> |>
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the
|> |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati
|> |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and
|> |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the
|> |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just
|> |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like
|> |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds
|> |> |> like
|> |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there!
|> |> |> Nevertheless...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
|> |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then
|> |> |> uncheck "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from
|> |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly
|> |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts
|> |> |> tooÃ¢â‚¬â€ or there is a chance you end up with
|> |> |> tiny, unreadable fonts!
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
|> |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or
|> |> |> Display Adapter...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> For the Monitor...
|> |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
|> |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
|> |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager
|> |> |> tab" (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
|> |> |> installed similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
|> |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
|> |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
|> |> |> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
|> |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
|> |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently
|> |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up
|> |> |> with, after step (4).
|> |> |>
|> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
|> |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> .......Quote..........
|> |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
|> |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from
|> |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced"
|> |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that
|> |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note
|> |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the
|> |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the
|> |> |> system.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
|> |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
|> |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter
|> |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR]
|> |> |>
|> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
|> |> |> generic
|> |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like
|> |> |> VGA because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of
|> |> |> installing
|> |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
|> |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter
|> |> |> that
|> |> |> you are
|> |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your
|> |> |> computer
|> |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains
|> |> |> the correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and
|> |> |> see if
|> |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website
|> |> |> of
|> |> |> the company that made your video card.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP)
|> |> |> .......End....of quote....
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Also...
|> |> |> ..........Quote................
|> |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run
|> |> |> either
|> |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here:
|> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html
|> |> |>
|> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of
|> |> |> AIDA32....I
|> |> |> suggest Enterprise:
|> |> |>
|> |>
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Everest Free Edition:
|> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html
|> |> |>
|> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here:
|> |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
|> |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|> |> |> .........EOQ....................
|> |> |>
|> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue
|> |> |> |> | with the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster
|> |> |> |> | Audigy. After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card
|> |> |> |> | drivers then I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed
|> |> |> |> | to go through PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the
|> |> |> |> | advice so far.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Buffalo · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F6074399-23FE-42AF-B144-ED6BCBD5D5A4@microsoft.com...
> Okay, I will do that when I get a chance. My goal is to get 98SE stable
> again first. I realize now that my big mistake was when I installed 2
> gigabytes of ram to not right away go back to 512 mb's and limit 98SE with
> msconfig to see only 512 mb's.

And don't forget to add the MaxFileCache=512000 line under the [vcache]
header in System.ini. (you can also use 524288 instead of 512000)
That line should be added in Win98 anyttime you have more than 512MB of
memory (ram) installed in Win98.
If you install over 1GB , than you may have to limit your ram as you stated
above.
I use 1GB in Win98SE and it works just fine with the System.ini modification
alone.

PCR · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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| MEB wrote:
|| Dang guy, read it again:::::
||
|| DAN [in another segment]:
|| "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro.
|| side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of
|| the hardware firewall in the router. "
||
|| Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls
|| have any use....
|
|>OK, Buffalo straightened me out. But, it really depends on how
|>configurable
| Dan's particular hardware firewall is. >If as configurable as Kerio,
| then he only needs that one, I think!
|
| I would ask the most viable question:
| WHAT the heck would make you think a router can be configured any
| where NEAR as tightly as a software firewall regarding
| software/applications UNLESS the router includes its own software
| firewall, but then we are hijacking a discussion, and you haven't
| finished your studies.

Absolutely-- let us not hijack this discussion or become overly
emotional &/or derogatory! I agree fully! It's also true I don't know
enough about any router to know whether it can ever do as well as Kerio
on the day I solidify & finalize my Kerio rules. OK, then. OK, bye!

| The TRUELY SAD aspect of this all, is:
| Dan has found and formed this opinion; through supposed people he
| apparently trusted; that a FRIGGING router is the same as, OR BETTER,
| than a software firewall, and provides sufficient protection for his
| system... and that, apparently from the News Groups here [Microsoft]
| and its members and where ever else they post, and/or elsewhere...
|
| Now one of these occurred:
|
| 1. He got this from trusted members here, or from trusted members
| posting somewhere else..
|
| 2. Or he got this elsewhere, and was NOT corrected when he came here.
|
|
| Moreover, he also thinks the Microsoft's XP firewall will provide
| some sort of protection, should he need it.
|
| FACT: Microsoft's XP firewall provides semi-adequate protection ONLY
| in a *local network* environment.
|
| It has built in access points, evidenced by Auto-updates, etc.
| [blatantly obvious and well known holes, it came with every hacker's
| XP system - DUH]: and provides little protection for OUTBOUND access
| or software control. EVERY HACKER knows its defaults, and
| configuration limits, AND ITS CODE.... Those that claim it is
| adequate REALLY don't get what does occur while normal users access
| the Internet, nor do they apparently care.
|
| We can likely rate this *routers are all you need while using the
| Internet*, right up there with advising people to disable their email
| protection provided by their Anti-virus programs: that's *pure crap*
| and carrying the smell that goes with that.
|
| EVERY little bit or piece you add for your protection is one more
| piece a hacker, Trojan, virus, or Spyware has to circumvent...
|
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/vista_net_basic.htm
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/certs_install.htm
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/firewalls.htm
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/spyware.htm
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/antivirus.htm
|
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| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

98 Guy · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

MEB wrote:

> I would ask the most viable question:
> WHAT the heck would make you think a router can be configured
> any where NEAR as tightly as a software firewall regarding ...

MEB, pay attention.

There are 2 aspects of firewall functionality.

1) Inbound handling of unsolicited data packets
2) Outbound handling of packets from unauthorized or unrecognized
local processes.

I will refer to these items as #1 and #2 repeatedly below.

A NAT-router handles #1 IN ALL CASES, be they TCP or UDP. And it
handles this for all computers connected to it on the local LAN. It
is very efficient at doing this, and it does it in a secure manner.

A NAT-router does not perform #2 because it can't.

A software firewall performs both 1 and 2, but only on ONE computer.
If you have more than one computer on a local lan, you already have
NAT, so you are already protected for #1.

Function #1 is a bona-fide protection mechanism that prevents some
systems from being comprimized (this almost never applies to
windows-98 anyways, but it applied almost 100% to Windows 2K, XP-gold
and XP-SP1). Function #1 ->IS<- protection.

Function #2 IS NOT protection. Function #2 is an alert mechanism.
Unless it's a false alarm, #2 tells you that YOUR SYSTEM IS ALREADY
COMPRIMIZED IN SOME WAY. Function #2 is also a pain in the ass to
configure and live with. Because function #2 is only provided by a
software firewall, it can be deactivated by malware or by inadverdant
misconfiguration by the user.

In real life, there are always unwanted / unsolicited packets
hammering away at your internet connection (item #1) so it's a given
that they are more of a threat and should be delt with - moreseo than
dealing with #2.

It is MORE important to deal with #1 vs #2 - do you agree with that
MEB?

So how does this affect the average joe internet user?

If you were to prioritize the various security appliances, software
and settings you could obtain to insure a safe computing experience,
the first item on the list is a NAT-router. Even if you have only 1
computer and you don't need the ability to have a local LAN, a
nat-router will perform your internet log-in for you and will maintain
your internet connection even when your computer is off. This means
you don't need to run buggy or troublesome ISP login software, and
your IP address will remain fixed for longer periods of time (some may
find this useful if you like to operate a web-cam or use PC-Telephone
to communicate with friends and family).

Once you have a NAT-router, you have item #1 covered. Since I place
item #2 far down the list of important functions, I have other items
next (like a hosts file, locking down browsers with spybot and spyware
blaster, updating JAVA JRE engine, etc). At the bottom I place
anti-virus software (it is close to becoming useless these days) and a
software firewall (or more specificaly, item #2) at the very bottom (I
don't run one, I never have and never will).

(I have direct experience with running 10+ win-98 machines directly
facing the internet continuously from 1998 to Dec 2005 ->without NAT
and without any sort of firewall<- so I am well aware of what win-98
is, and more importantly what it is not vulnerable to.)

> Moreover, he also thinks the Microsoft's XP firewall will
> provide some sort of protection, should he need it.

The software firewall built into XP is ONLY an incoming firewall. It
performs function #1 only. Assuming it works correctly at all times,
it is exactly equivalent to what a NAT-router does. But because it is
a process running on the local machine, it is vulnerable to being
tampered with or being deactivated by malware, and for that reason it
is inferior to a NAT-router.

> We can likely rate this *routers are all you need while using
> the Internet*, right up there with advising people to disable
> their email protection provided by their Anti-virus programs:
> that's *pure crap* and carrying the smell that goes with that.

A NAT-router is THE FIRST THING YOU NEED. As I have always said, what
you get next are various reinforcements to your system as I mentioned
above. A software firewall is not even on my list because it has a
negative cost/benefit analysis.

Dan · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

Thanks it will be 2 gigabytes of ram.

"Buffalo" wrote:

>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F6074399-23FE-42AF-B144-ED6BCBD5D5A4@microsoft.com...
> > Okay, I will do that when I get a chance. My goal is to get 98SE stable
> > again first. I realize now that my big mistake was when I installed 2
> > gigabytes of ram to not right away go back to 512 mb's and limit 98SE with
> > msconfig to see only 512 mb's.
>
> And don't forget to add the MaxFileCache=512000 line under the [vcache]
> header in System.ini. (you can also use 524288 instead of 512000)
> That line should be added in Win98 anyttime you have more than 512MB of
> memory (ram) installed in Win98.
> If you install over 1GB , than you may have to limit your ram as you stated
> above.
> I use 1GB in Win98SE and it works just fine with the System.ini modification
> alone.
>
>
>

Dan · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

Thanks PCR!!! I have a total of 3 MSVCRT.DLL --- they are as follows:

1. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\system
2. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\temp\crfo\drivers\addon
3. ver. 6.00.8397.0 ---- located in c:\program
files\creative\sbaudigy\playcenter2

I will proceed to try and reinstall Internet Explorer 6 ---- hopefully that
will work. Let me know if I should delete all of these and just replace the
top one with the dll from the 98SE cd or something else. Thanks again!

"PCR" wrote:

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05690A47-1F0C-4E79-B19F-9506C5A18C9C@microsoft.com
> | Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract and
> | replace MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest.
>
> You are welcome. Here is what I post for an over-install of IE, which
> hopefully would give you a fresh & (nearly?) up-to-date MSVCRT.DLL...
>
> Over-install IE. Try first without, but I believe it will request an
> internet connection. Perhaps it is best to let it connect, actually. If
> you don't care to get this fancy, just skip to step (c).
>
> (a) Turn off interfering programs. Use http://www.pcmag.com/ 's
> "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2". Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab".
> Note what is unchecked, if anything. Then, go to the General tab &
> disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking
> "Load Startup...". Reboot.
>
> (b) Perhaps, if you haven't got EndItAll2, then "Ctrl-Alt-Del" & end
> task all but Explorer & Systray. If this goes badly, start again from
> top, & skip it next time.
>
> (c) "START, Find, F/F, IE6Setup.exe". Click it in the Find window.
>
> NOTE: If you are IE5, then it's "IE5Setup.exe". If there are more
> than one (I have two each), click the one in "C:\WINDOWS\Windows
> Update Setup Files" or "C:\Windows Update Setup Files", as applicable.
>
> (d) Re-enable the Startup Group. That will automatically check all
> items. Go to the Startup tab & uncheck any noted in step (a). Reboot.
>
> (e) Perhaps go to Windows Update, to see whether it now offers
> criticals.
>
> | "PCR" wrote:
> |
> |> Dan wrote:
> |> | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from
> |> | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D:
> |> | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that
> |> | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have
> |> | uninstalled Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side.
> |> | Also, I have unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and
> |> | 98SE side. I have checked extensively for viruses, spyware,
> |> | adware, etc. and only turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try
> |> | and reinstall the Sound Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me
> |> | one error message and I am clueless as to what this might mean and
> |> | what to do about it. Well I just Googled it and it told me it was
> |> | related to Windows Media Player which I have. I have Windows
> |> | Media Player 9 on the 98SE side. Should I unistall that too?
> |>
> |> UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that
> |> does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too...
> |>
> |> UnRegMp2.exe
> |> Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility
> |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF
> |> Size: 192,512 bytes
> |> Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM
> |> Ver: 9.00.00.2980
> |>
> |> But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is
> |> what I usually post for it...
> |>
> |> I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in
> |> SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab.
> |>
> |> MSVCRT.DLL
> |> Desc: Microsoft (R) C Runtime Library
> |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
> |> Size: 278,581 bytes
> |> Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM
> |> Ver: 6.00.8797.0
> |>
> |> That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been
> |> updated
> |> by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6
> |> SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative
> |> updates.
> |>
> |> I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98
> |> ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR,
> |> maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for
> |> that too, if you want.
> |>
> |> Here is how to do it in DOS...
> |>
> |> (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
> |> Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
> |> "C:\Windows\System", thus...
> |>
> |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
> |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
> |> MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL
> |> 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes
> |>
> |> (b)
> |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll"
> |>
> |> That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not
> |> enter
> |> the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there.
> |>
> |> <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
> |> follows...
> |>
> |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
> |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
> |> BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
> |> 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes
> |>
> |> If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
> |> instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it
> |> to be
> |> located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.
> |>
> |> So, in my case, the command is...
> |>
> |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System
> |> C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
> |> MSVCRT.dll"
> |>
> |> All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including
> |> one
> |> after "Base4.cab".
> |>
> |> | Thanks for the help and patience
> |> | everyone.
> |> |
> |> | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in
> |> | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d.
> |> |
> |> | Registers:
> |> | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206
> |> | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0
> |> | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f
> |> | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000
> |> | Bytes at CS:EIP:
> |> | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48
> |> | Stack dump:
> |> | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000
> |> | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074
> |> | 00740072 00690061
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |
> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800
> |> |> | XT cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it.
> |> |> | I get a remote call out error when I try to install the latest
> |> |> | Ati 9800 XT from the downloaded driver and control console that
> |> |> | comes with the driver. Let me know if you have any more
> |> |> | suggestions as I wade through these ones.
> |> |>
> |> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or
> |> |> connect to some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install
> |> |> it? I was hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may
> |> |> need to allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly
> |> |> empty pages without it!
> |> |>
> |> |> |
> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the
> |> |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati
> |> |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and
> |> |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the
> |> |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just
> |> |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like
> |> |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds
> |> |> |> like
> |> |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there!
> |> |> |> Nevertheless...
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
> |> |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then
> |> |> |> uncheck "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from
> |> |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly
> |> |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts
> |> |> |> tooÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Â or there is a chance you end up with
> |> |> |> tiny, unreadable fonts!
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
> |> |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or
> |> |> |> Display Adapter...
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> For the Monitor...
> |> |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
> |> |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
> |> |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager
> |> |> |> tab" (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
> |> |> |> installed similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
> |> |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
> |> |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
> |> |> |> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
> |> |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
> |> |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently
> |> |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up
> |> |> |> with, after step (4).
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
> |> |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> .......Quote..........
> |> |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
> |> |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from
> |> |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced"
> |> |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that
> |> |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note
> |> |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the
> |> |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the
> |> |> |> system.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
> |> |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
> |> |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter
> |> |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR]
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
> |> |> |> generic
> |> |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like
> |> |> |> VGA because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of
> |> |> |> installing
> |> |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
> |> |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter
> |> |> |> that
> |> |> |> you are
> |> |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your
> |> |> |> computer
> |> |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains
> |> |> |> the correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and
> |> |> |> see if
> |> |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website
> |> |> |> of
> |> |> |> the company that made your video card.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP)
> |> |> |> .......End....of quote....
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Also...
> |> |> |> ..........Quote................
> |> |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run
> |> |> |> either
> |> |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here:
> |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of
> |> |> |> AIDA32....I
> |> |> |> suggest Enterprise:
> |> |> |>
> |> |>
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Everest Free Edition:
> |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here:
> |> |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32
> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> |> |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> |> |> |> .........EOQ....................
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue
> |> |> |> |> | with the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster
> |> |> |> |> | Audigy. After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card
> |> |> |> |> | drivers then I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed
> |> |> |> |> | to go through PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the
> |> |> |> |> | advice so far.
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> |> PCR
> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

Dan W. · Aug 5, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

PCR wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> | I am unable to run Windows 98 SE in normal mode. Fortunately, I can
> | run it in safe mode. When I try to run Windows 98 SE in normal mode
> | then I receive a BSOD (Blue Screen of Death --- grin). The windows
> | fatal exception is as follows:
> |
> | Fatal exception 0D occurred at 0147:0000BC9D
>
> Well, here is a bunch of articles I always post for that...
>
> http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
> Search "Fatal Exception 0D"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; turns
> up about a page worth, including...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;150314&Product=w98
> What Are Fatal Exception Errors
> (150314) - When you attempt to shut down your computer, start Windows,
> or start a program in Windows, you may encounter error messages that are
> similar to: A fatal exception XY has occurred at xxxx:xxxxxxxx Fatal
> exception errors are codes that are returned by a...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299976&Product=w98
> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message When You Start Microsoft Windows 98
> (299976) - When you start Microsoft Windows 98, you may receive error
> messages similar to the following ones: A Fatal Exception 0D has
> occurred at xxxx:xxxxxx in VxD APIX(01) where xxxx:xxxxxx is a string of
> random characters. -or- Invalid vxd dynamic link call...
>
> It says to replace APIX.vxd. That shouldn't hurt, because it's as old as
> they get in my Win98SE...
>
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS>dir APIX.VXD
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS
> APIX VXD 22,603 09-10-99 7:06a APIX.VXD
> 1 file(s) 22,603 bytes
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;133440&Product=w98
> Error Message: This Program Has Caused a Fatal Exception 0D at
> 00457:000040B1 and Will Be Terminated
> (133440) - When you start Windows, you may receive the following error
> message on a blue screen: WINDOWS This program has caused a Fatal
> Exception 0D at 00457:000040B1 and will be terminated. Pressing any key
> causes the screen to turn black and the computer to...
>
> It says... "CAUSE: This error message can occur if you are using Adobe
> Type Manager with certain video adapter drivers and the Hardware
> Acceleration setting is not set to Full."
>
> That couldn't hurt, either. Perhaps even try the reverse, & turn
> Hardware Acceleration off, especially if you are not using ATM. If it
> works to turn off Hardware Acceleration, then the video drivers indeed
> are suspect, as Philo says. So, overinstall them. I have a larger post
> for that, if you want.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;200444&Product=w98
> "Fatal Exception 0D 03E7:00003497" After Upgrading to Windows 98
> (200444) - After you upgrade to Windows 98, you may receive the
> following error message when you start Windows 98 normally: Fatal
> Exception 0D 03E7:00003497
>
> It says: "To resolve this issue, uninstall the STB Vision software."
>
> | I have a dual-boot with XP Professional which still works great.
> | However, I also want 98SE to work great as well. Thanks for your
> | help and I look forward to getting 98SE up and running at full speed.
> |
> | Well PCR, you were right that eventually XP Pro. would hurt 98SE I
> | guess -- grin.
>
> Aha! That PROVES it!
>
> | Thanks in advance for all of the help and I am
> | looking forward to posting here again via Mozilla Thunderbird on the
> | 98SE side of my computer. Gary I hope your health is well and I hope
> | all the MVP's here are doing great.
>
<bottom test reply> Dan here and testing from Windows 98SE machine
using Mozilla Thunderbird newsreader. PCR, you were so right. I went
ahead and reinstalled Internet Explorer and that really helped a lot. I
am still waiting for the ati cd to come in the mail but I am no longer
getting blue screens of death. I will begin to recheck things in
msconfig startup tab and let you know how things progress.

MEB · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

Go finish your hard drive discussion..

Before I spank your ass with the facts on routers...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

MEB · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

Oh, in case you missed it, and I see you apparently have little ability to
comprehend much: in your last/present hard drive discussion you discredited
ALL your prior posts... you proofed your own inability and mental
incapability to the world ... might want to try to at least recover a small
bit of integrity, though I seriously doubt you will be able too, being who
you are...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

Dan W. · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

<snip>

Okay, PCR and others the situation is now this that I can boot into
normal mode in 98SE without Jet Detection: c:\program
files\creative\sbaudigy\program\adgjdet.exe, scanregistry:
c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun, ctstartup: c:\program
files\creative\splash screen\ctaxspl.exe /run, disc detector: c:\program
files\creative\sharedll\ctnotify.exe, windvdpatch: cthelper.exe, 1 of
the load power profiles, and atipoll: ati2evxx.exe

The load power profiles are both as follows: rundll32.exe
powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

Thanks again everyone for all of your help and let me know what to do
next. PCR, I followed your suggestion about reinstalling ie6 and it
really helped. I am still waiting for the ati replacement graphics dvd
and I also would like to get a sound blaster audigy cd with dos drivers
but Creative no longer offers the sound blaster auidigy cd with dos
drivers and the replacement that I got in the past did not have dos drivers.

Dan · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

PCR, this is a test post from XP Pro. to let you know that Dan W. is the same
as me. I plan to bottom post compared to top post via Thunderbird in 98SE
when it is up and running fully again so don't get confused. <grin>

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | I am unable to run Windows 98 SE in normal mode. Fortunately, I can
> | run it in safe mode. When I try to run Windows 98 SE in normal mode
> | then I receive a BSOD (Blue Screen of Death --- grin). The windows
> | fatal exception is as follows:
> |
> | Fatal exception 0D occurred at 0147:0000BC9D
>
> Well, here is a bunch of articles I always post for that...
>
> http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
> Search "Fatal Exception 0D"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; turns
> up about a page worth, including...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;150314&Product=w98
> What Are Fatal Exception Errors
> (150314) - When you attempt to shut down your computer, start Windows,
> or start a program in Windows, you may encounter error messages that are
> similar to: A fatal exception XY has occurred at xxxx:xxxxxxxx Fatal
> exception errors are codes that are returned by a...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299976&Product=w98
> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message When You Start Microsoft Windows 98
> (299976) - When you start Microsoft Windows 98, you may receive error
> messages similar to the following ones: A Fatal Exception 0D has
> occurred at xxxx:xxxxxx in VxD APIX(01) where xxxx:xxxxxx is a string of
> random characters. -or- Invalid vxd dynamic link call...
>
> It says to replace APIX.vxd. That shouldn't hurt, because it's as old as
> they get in my Win98SE...
>
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS>dir APIX.VXD
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS
> APIX VXD 22,603 09-10-99 7:06a APIX.VXD
> 1 file(s) 22,603 bytes
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;133440&Product=w98
> Error Message: This Program Has Caused a Fatal Exception 0D at
> 00457:000040B1 and Will Be Terminated
> (133440) - When you start Windows, you may receive the following error
> message on a blue screen: WINDOWS This program has caused a Fatal
> Exception 0D at 00457:000040B1 and will be terminated. Pressing any key
> causes the screen to turn black and the computer to...
>
> It says... "CAUSE: This error message can occur if you are using Adobe
> Type Manager with certain video adapter drivers and the Hardware
> Acceleration setting is not set to Full."
>
> That couldn't hurt, either. Perhaps even try the reverse, & turn
> Hardware Acceleration off, especially if you are not using ATM. If it
> works to turn off Hardware Acceleration, then the video drivers indeed
> are suspect, as Philo says. So, overinstall them. I have a larger post
> for that, if you want.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;200444&Product=w98
> "Fatal Exception 0D 03E7:00003497" After Upgrading to Windows 98
> (200444) - After you upgrade to Windows 98, you may receive the
> following error message when you start Windows 98 normally: Fatal
> Exception 0D 03E7:00003497
>
> It says: "To resolve this issue, uninstall the STB Vision software."
>
> | I have a dual-boot with XP Professional which still works great.
> | However, I also want 98SE to work great as well. Thanks for your
> | help and I look forward to getting 98SE up and running at full speed.
> |
> | Well PCR, you were right that eventually XP Pro. would hurt 98SE I
> | guess -- grin.
>
> Aha! That PROVES it!
>
> | Thanks in advance for all of the help and I am
> | looking forward to posting here again via Mozilla Thunderbird on the
> | 98SE side of my computer. Gary I hope your health is well and I hope
> | all the MVP's here are doing great.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

PCR · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:96BED9AB-E1B7-4156-9B45-CF0FEEB222C5@microsoft.com
| Thanks PCR!!! I have a total of 3 MSVCRT.DLL --- they are as follows:
|
| 1. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\system
| 2. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\temp\crfo\drivers\addon

I'm guessing, when you installed "crfo", it replaced your v.8397 with
v.8637. It did so by putting v.8637 into C:\Windows\System. Do you know
what "crfo" is? Does it have a folder with its main executable in it?

If so, maybe move v.8637 into that folder, & move v.8397 back into
"C:\Windows\System". Then, only "crfo" will use v.8637.

But, if no such "crfo" folder is identifiable-- still move v.8397 into
C:\Windows\System, to see whether it cures the other apps-- & hopefully
"crfo" copes with it too.

| 3. ver. 6.00.8397.0 ---- located in c:\program
| files\creative\sbaudigy\playcenter2

V.8397 is also the one that is in the IE .cab files.

| I will proceed to try and reinstall Internet Explorer 6 ----
| hopefully that will work. Let me know if I should delete all of
| these and just replace the top one with the dll from the 98SE cd or
| something else. Thanks again!

You are welcome. I'm not sure, but... an over-install of IE might not
work, because it has a lesser version of MSVCRT.DLL compared to the one
in C:\Windows\System. An IE over-install may well refuse to replace
files of a higher version.

| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> news:05690A47-1F0C-4E79-B19F-9506C5A18C9C@microsoft.com
|> | Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract
|> | and replace MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest.
|>
|> You are welcome. Here is what I post for an over-install of IE, which
|> hopefully would give you a fresh & (nearly?) up-to-date MSVCRT.DLL...
|>
|> Over-install IE. Try first without, but I believe it will request an
|> internet connection. Perhaps it is best to let it connect, actually.
|> If you don't care to get this fancy, just skip to step (c).
|>
|> (a) Turn off interfering programs. Use http://www.pcmag.com/ 's
|> "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2". Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab".
|> Note what is unchecked, if anything. Then, go to the General tab &
|> disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." &
|> unchecking "Load Startup...". Reboot.
|>
|> (b) Perhaps, if you haven't got EndItAll2, then "Ctrl-Alt-Del" & end
|> task all but Explorer & Systray. If this goes badly, start again from
|> top, & skip it next time.
|>
|> (c) "START, Find, F/F, IE6Setup.exe". Click it in the Find window.
|>
|> NOTE: If you are IE5, then it's "IE5Setup.exe". If there are
|> more than one (I have two each), click the one in "C:\WINDOWS\Windows
|> Update Setup Files" or "C:\Windows Update Setup Files", as
|> applicable.
|>
|> (d) Re-enable the Startup Group. That will automatically check all
|> items. Go to the Startup tab & uncheck any noted in step (a). Reboot.
|>
|> (e) Perhaps go to Windows Update, to see whether it now offers
|> criticals.
|>
|> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything
|> |> | from the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side
|> |> | is on D: and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been
|> |> | something that slipped from D: to C: because of user (my
|> |> | error). I have uninstalled Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP
|> |> | side and 98SE side. Also, I have unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT
|> |> | from both XP side and 98SE side. I have checked extensively
|> |> | for viruses, spyware, adware, etc. and only turned up 3
|> |> | tracking cookies. When I try and reinstall the Sound Blaster
|> |> | Audigy it works but it gives me one error message and I am
|> |> | clueless as to what this might mean and what to do about it.
|> |> | Well I just Googled it and it told me it was related to Windows
|> |> | Media Player which I have. I have Windows Media Player 9 on
|> |> | the 98SE side. Should I unistall that too?
|> |>
|> |> UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf
|> |> that does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too...
|> |>
|> |> UnRegMp2.exe
|> |> Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility
|> |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF
|> |> Size: 192,512 bytes
|> |> Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM
|> |> Ver: 9.00.00.2980
|> |>
|> |> But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is
|> |> what I usually post for it...
|> |>
|> |> I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in
|> |> SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab.
|> |>
|> |> MSVCRT.DLL
|> |> Desc: Microsoft (R) C Runtime Library
|> |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
|> |> Size: 278,581 bytes
|> |> Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM
|> |> Ver: 6.00.8797.0
|> |>
|> |> That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been
|> |> updated
|> |> by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the
|> |> IE6 SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative
|> |> updates.
|> |>
|> |> I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible
|> |> Win98 ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing
|> |> IE. OR, maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have
|> |> instructions for that too, if you want.
|> |>
|> |> Here is how to do it in DOS...
|> |>
|> |> (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
|> |> Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
|> |> "C:\Windows\System", thus...
|> |>
|> |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL
|> |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
|> |> MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL
|> |> 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes
|> |>
|> |> (b)
|> |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll"
|> |>
|> |> That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not
|> |> enter
|> |> the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there.
|> |>
|> |> <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
|> |> follows...
|> |>
|> |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
|> |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
|> |> BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
|> |> 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes
|> |>
|> |> If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive
|> |> letter, instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it
|> |> will find it to be
|> |> located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.
|> |>
|> |> So, in my case, the command is...
|> |>
|> |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System
|> |> C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
|> |> MSVCRT.dll"
|> |>
|> |> All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including
|> |> one
|> |> after "Base4.cab".
|> |>
|> |> | Thanks for the help and patience
|> |> | everyone.
|> |> |
|> |> | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in
|> |> | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d.
|> |> |
|> |> | Registers:
|> |> | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206
|> |> | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0
|> |> | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f
|> |> | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000
|> |> | Bytes at CS:EIP:
|> |> | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48
|> |> | Stack dump:
|> |> | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000
|> |> | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074
|> |> | 00740072 00690061
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon
|> |> |> | 9800 XT cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers
|> |> |> | on it. I get a remote call out error when I try to install
|> |> |> | the latest Ati 9800 XT from the downloaded driver and
|> |> |> | control console that comes with the driver. Let me know if
|> |> |> | you have any more suggestions as I wade through these ones.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or
|> |> |> connect to some WEB site. Are you online when you try to
|> |> |> install it? I was hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve
|> |> |> it. You may need to allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm
|> |> |> getting fairly empty pages without it!
|> |> |>
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled
|> |> |> |> | the sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the
|> |> |> |> | Ati graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try
|> |> |> |> | and install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to
|> |> |> |> | install the Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and
|> |> |> |> | currently am just using a basic VGA display for 98SE.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks
|> |> |> |> like
|> |> |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers &
|> |> |> |> sounds
|> |> |> |> like
|> |> |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there!
|> |> |> |> Nevertheless...
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
|> |> |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then
|> |> |> |> uncheck "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish
|> |> |> |> from
|> |> |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there,
|> |> |> |> possibly
|> |> |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts
|> |> |> |> tooÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Â or there is a
|> |> |> |> chance you end up with tiny, unreadable fonts!
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
|> |> |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or
|> |> |> |> Display Adapter...
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> For the Monitor...
|> |> |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
|> |> |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
|> |> |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager
|> |> |> |> tab" (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
|> |> |> |> installed similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
|> |> |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver
|> |> |> |> tab. (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
|> |> |> |> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
|> |> |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
|> |> |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently
|> |> |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end
|> |> |> |> up
|> |> |> |> with, after step (4).
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if
|> |> |> |> still
|> |> |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> .......Quote..........
|> |> |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you
|> |> |> |> have
|> |> |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties"
|> |> |> |> from
|> |> |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the
|> |> |> |> "Advanced"
|> |> |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that
|> |> |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make
|> |> |> |> note
|> |> |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the
|> |> |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the
|> |> |> |> system.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...',
|> |> |> |> Next,
|> |> |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select
|> |> |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter
|> |> |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR]
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
|> |> |> |> generic
|> |> |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not
|> |> |> |> like
|> |> |> |> VGA because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of
|> |> |> |> installing
|> |> |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter
|> |> |> |> that
|> |> |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter
|> |> |> |> that
|> |> |> |> you are
|> |> |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your
|> |> |> |> computer
|> |> |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains
|> |> |> |> the correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and
|> |> |> |> see if
|> |> |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the
|> |> |> |> website
|> |> |> |> of
|> |> |> |> the company that made your video card.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP)
|> |> |> |> .......End....of quote....
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Also...
|> |> |> |> ..........Quote................
|> |> |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run
|> |> |> |> either
|> |> |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here:
|> |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise
|> |> |> |> versions of
|> |> |> |> AIDA32....I
|> |> |> |> suggest Enterprise:
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |>
|>
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Everest Free Edition:
|> |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here:
|> |> |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32
|> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
|> |> |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|> |> |> |> .........EOQ....................
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an
|> |> |> |> |> | issue with the sound card drivers. It is a Sound
|> |> |> |> |> | Blaster Audigy. After, I uninstall and reinstall the
|> |> |> |> |> | sound card drivers then I can eliminate that. Then, I
|> |> |> |> |> | will proceed to go through PCR's suggestions. Thanks
|> |> |> |> |> | everyone for the advice so far.
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

PCR · Aug 6, 2007

Buffalo · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

PCR wrote:
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:96BED9AB-E1B7-4156-9B45-CF0FEEB222C5@microsoft.com
>> Thanks PCR!!! I have a total of 3 MSVCRT.DLL --- they are as
>> follows:
>>
>> 1. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\system
>> 2. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in
>> c:\windows\temp\crfo\drivers\addon
>
> I'm guessing, when you installed "crfo", it replaced your v.8397 with
> v.8637. It did so by putting v.8637 into C:\Windows\System. Do you
> know what "crfo" is? Does it have a folder with its main executable
> in it?
>
> If so, maybe move v.8637 into that folder, & move v.8397 back into
> "C:\Windows\System". Then, only "crfo" will use v.8637.
>
> But, if no such "crfo" folder is identifiable-- still move v.8397 into
> C:\Windows\System, to see whether it cures the other apps-- &
> hopefully "crfo" copes with it too.
[snip]

Perhaps 'crfo' is the boogeyman , virus, or spyware.

PCR · Aug 6, 2007

PCR · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"Dan W." <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
news:%23gW2rPC2HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| <snip>
|
| Okay, PCR and others the situation is now this that I can boot into
| normal mode in 98SE without Jet Detection: c:\program
| files\creative\sbaudigy\program\adgjdet.exe, scanregistry:
| c:\windows\scanregw.exe /autorun, ctstartup: c:\program
| files\creative\splash screen\ctaxspl.exe /run, disc detector:
| c:\program files\creative\sharedll\ctnotify.exe, windvdpatch:
| cthelper.exe, 1 of
| the load power profiles, and atipoll: ati2evxx.exe
|
| The load power profiles are both as follows: rundll32.exe
| powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

The LoadPowerProfile's are fine. So is Scanregistry. As there aren't may
others, activate them one at a time, until the problem resurfaces. The
last one activated is the bad guy, then!

| Thanks again everyone for all of your help and let me know what to do
| next. PCR, I followed your suggestion about reinstalling ie6 and it
| really helped. I am still waiting for the ati replacement graphics
| dvd
| and I also would like to get a sound blaster audigy cd with dos
| drivers
| but Creative no longer offers the sound blaster auidigy cd with dos
| drivers and the replacement that I got in the past did not have dos
| drivers.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

PCR · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

"Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:BJqdnS3fN85o5yrbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com
| PCR wrote:
|> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> news:96BED9AB-E1B7-4156-9B45-CF0FEEB222C5@microsoft.com
|>> Thanks PCR!!! I have a total of 3 MSVCRT.DLL --- they are as
|>> follows:
|>>
|>> 1. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\system
|>> 2. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in
|>> c:\windows\temp\crfo\drivers\addon
|>
|> I'm guessing, when you installed "crfo", it replaced your v.8397 with
|> v.8637. It did so by putting v.8637 into C:\Windows\System. Do you
|> know what "crfo" is? Does it have a folder with its main executable
|> in it?
|>
|> If so, maybe move v.8637 into that folder, & move v.8397 back into
|> "C:\Windows\System". Then, only "crfo" will use v.8637.
|>
|> But, if no such "crfo" folder is identifiable-- still move v.8397
|> into C:\Windows\System, to see whether it cures the other apps-- &
|> hopefully "crfo" copes with it too.
| [snip]
|
| Perhaps 'crfo' is the boogeyman , virus, or spyware.

It's awfully hard to tell! It depends what shade of purple Dan's great
toe will be after 5 months of it!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Buffalo · Aug 6, 2007

Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition

PCR wrote:
> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
[snip]
> > It's awfully hard to tell! It depends what shade of purple Dan's great
> toe will be after 5 months of it!

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