re-use XP

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My current computer line up

1. 2007 box with VISTA
2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a retail
XP upgrade disk.

My proposed future line up

1. 2007 box with VISTA
2. 1999 box scrapped
3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.

Question

Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the iMac
(because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is a full OS
on the disk?
If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a new
license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?

Andereida
 
Re: re-use XP


"bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> My current computer line up
>
> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a retail
> XP upgrade disk.
>
> My proposed future line up
>
> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
> 2. 1999 box scrapped
> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>
> Question
>
> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the iMac
> (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is a full
> OS on the disk?
> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a new
> license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>
> Andereida



You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have it)
 
Re: re-use XP


"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My current computer line up
>>
>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>
>> My proposed future line up
>>
>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>
>> Question
>>
>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the iMac
>> (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is a full
>> OS on the disk?
>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a new
>> license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>
>> Andereida
>
>
>
> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
> it)
>

Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
Win98 CD.

cheers

Andereida
 
Re: re-use XP


"bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> My current computer line up
>>>
>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>
>>> My proposed future line up
>>>
>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>
>>> Question
>>>
>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is a
>>> full OS on the disk?
>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>
>>> Andereida
>>
>>
>>
>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
>> it)
>>
>
> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
> Win98 CD.
>
> cheers
>
> Andereida
>


Ok good luck...
you should be able to just begin the install...then feed it the win98 cd
when asked
 
Re: re-use XP

Not on his iMac, Philo.

Look for the cd eject button on a Mac optical drive. Guess what? There
isn't one. Mac users use the Eject key on the Mac keyboard to eject cds and
dvds.

There is no way to perform the shiny media check because the Eject key on
the keyboard is not supported by the Windows Setup keyboard driver. That
key is not enabled until the Macintosh drivers for Windows are installed
once XP itself is installed. There is no way to swap cds during the
installation of XP. That's the only reason an XP upgrade edition cd cannot
be used with Boot Camp.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My current computer line up
>>
>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>
>> My proposed future line up
>>
>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>
>> Question
>>
>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the iMac
>> (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is a full
>> OS on the disk?
>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a new
>> license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>
>> Andereida
>
>
>
> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
> it)
>
 
Re: re-use XP

You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac because
there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on other Windows
machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not functional during
Windows installation. You just can't make the cd swap.

"bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> My current computer line up
>>>
>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>
>>> My proposed future line up
>>>
>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>
>>> Question
>>>
>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is a
>>> full OS on the disk?
>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>
>>> Andereida
>>
>>
>>
>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
>> it)
>>
>
> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
> Win98 CD.
>
> cheers
>
> Andereida
>
 
Re: re-use XP

No he isn't, Philo. He just can't do what you suggest.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>
>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>
>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>
>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>
>>>> Question
>>>>
>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is
>>>> a full OS on the disk?
>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>
>>>> Andereida
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
>>> it)
>>>
>>
>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
>> Win98 CD.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Andereida
>>
>
>
> Ok good luck...
> you should be able to just begin the install...then feed it the win98 cd
> when asked
>
 
Re: re-use XP


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac because
> there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on other Windows
> machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not functional during
> Windows installation. You just can't make the cd swap.
>



I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008 iMac.

The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there is
no eject button...
I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed from
the drive too...
as that may work.

The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
then perform the upgrade from within the OS.

Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation



> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>
>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>
>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>
>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>
>>>> Question
>>>>
>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is
>>>> a full OS on the disk?
>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>
>>>> Andereida
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
>>> it)
>>>
>>
>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
>> Win98 CD.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Andereida
>>
>
 
Re: re-use XP

Look closely at the iMac pictured here:
http://www.apple.com/imac/
Notice the disc slot in the side of the monitor? No button, no paperclip
hole.

There is no mechanical means to eject a disc on a Mac. Any Mac. Not even a
paperclip hole. The reason is the Apple operating systems require closing
of files prior to ejection so to protect the user from inadvertantly
ejecting without first closing files, the user is prevented from doing it
mechanically. The Eject key on the keyboard closes any files on the disc
that are open before ejecting the disc. The user can also eject a disc from
a program menu. In the event a disc gets stuck, it is necessary to shut
down the Mac and then restart while holding down the mouse key.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on other
>> Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not functional
>> during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd swap.
>>
>
>
>
> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
> iMac.
>
> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there is
> no eject button...
> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed from
> the drive too...
> as that may work.
>
> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>
> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>
>
>
>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is
>>>>> a full OS on the disk?
>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andereida
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
>>>> it)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
>>> Win98 CD.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Andereida
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: re-use XP

Boot Camp supports installing Windows XP and Vista only.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on other
>> Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not functional
>> during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd swap.
>>
>
>
>
> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
> iMac.
>
> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there is
> no eject button...
> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed from
> the drive too...
> as that may work.
>
> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>
> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>
>
>
>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there is
>>>>> a full OS on the disk?
>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andereida
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still have
>>>> it)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the original
>>> Win98 CD.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Andereida
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: re-use XP


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:FBA17CBC-3A93-4ECC-BE39-A9BFFC6A29D3@microsoft.com...
> Look closely at the iMac pictured here:
> http://www.apple.com/imac/
> Notice the disc slot in the side of the monitor? No button, no paperclip
> hole.
>
> There is no mechanical means to eject a disc on a Mac. Any Mac. Not even
> a paperclip hole. The reason is the Apple operating systems require
> closing of files prior to ejection so to protect the user from
> inadvertantly ejecting without first closing files, the user is prevented
> from doing it mechanically. The Eject key on the keyboard closes any
> files on the disc that are open before ejecting the disc. The user can
> also eject a disc from a program menu. In the event a disc gets stuck, it
> is necessary to shut down the Mac and then restart while holding down the
> mouse key.
>

Thank you for spotting the error I made.

Unless the windows installer ejects the CD automatically (which I don't
think is the case)
The OP would have to install Win98 first...then upgrade to XP from within
Win98



> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on other
>>> Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not functional
>>> during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd swap.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
>> iMac.
>>
>> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there
>> is no eject button...
>> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed from
>> the drive too...
>> as that may work.
>>
>> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
>> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>>
>> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
>> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>>
>>
>>
>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there
>>>>>> is a full OS on the disk?
>>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>>>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still
>>>>> have it)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the
>>>> original Win98 CD.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> Andereida
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: re-use XP


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:7348826C-50FA-47EF-B12E-20839ED6513C@microsoft.com...
> Boot Camp supports installing Windows XP and Vista only.
>


How about installing Win98 in a virtual machine...then upgrading that to XP?



I did not see where the OP specified they were going to be using Boot Camp

Of course it would be better to run the OS native

> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on other
>>> Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not functional
>>> during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd swap.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
>> iMac.
>>
>> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there
>> is no eject button...
>> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed from
>> the drive too...
>> as that may work.
>>
>> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
>> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>>
>> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
>> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>>
>>
>>
>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there
>>>>>> is a full OS on the disk?
>>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying a
>>>>>> new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still
>>>>> have it)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the
>>>> original Win98 CD.
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> Andereida
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: re-use XP


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:385620A6-EAFF-4FD3-80BD-1E8EA95C6CCB@microsoft.com...
> Not on his iMac, Philo.
>
> Look for the cd eject button on a Mac optical drive. Guess what? There
> isn't one. Mac users use the Eject key on the Mac keyboard to eject cds
> and dvds.
>
> There is no way to perform the shiny media check because the Eject key on
> the keyboard is not supported by the Windows Setup keyboard driver. That
> key is not enabled until the Macintosh drivers for Windows are installed
> once XP itself is installed. There is no way to swap cds during the
> installation of XP. That's the only reason an XP upgrade edition cd
> cannot be used with Boot Camp.
>

Thanks fellows. Seems I am stuck with trying to find a full edition from
somewhere or going to the Mac forum for an alternative suggestion.

Very grateful for your help Colin.

Andereida
 
Re: re-use XP


"bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:385620A6-EAFF-4FD3-80BD-1E8EA95C6CCB@microsoft.com...
>> Not on his iMac, Philo.
>>
>> Look for the cd eject button on a Mac optical drive. Guess what? There
>> isn't one. Mac users use the Eject key on the Mac keyboard to eject cds
>> and dvds.
>>
>> There is no way to perform the shiny media check because the Eject key on
>> the keyboard is not supported by the Windows Setup keyboard driver. That
>> key is not enabled until the Macintosh drivers for Windows are installed
>> once XP itself is installed. There is no way to swap cds during the
>> installation of XP. That's the only reason an XP upgrade edition cd
>> cannot be used with Boot Camp.
>>
>
> Thanks fellows. Seems I am stuck with trying to find a full edition from
> somewhere or going to the Mac forum for an alternative suggestion.
>
> Very grateful for your help Colin.
>
> Andereida

I also thank Colin for correcting my errors. The only way I can think of
would be to install
Virtual machine software, install win98 in that...and then upgrade to XP...

So it would of course be easier to just get the full version of XP
or possibly find someone who is willing to trade CD's assuming all are legal
 
Re: re-use XP

XP upgrade setup instructs the user to swap cds. It does not eject the cd
itself.

Win98 probably won't install. You are forgetting that the memory limit for
Win9x/ME is 512mb. I have heard of it running stably on up to 768MB, but no
further. He would have to have a stable OS (no BSODs) before he could
launch the XP upgrade setup from the Win98 desktop. The iMac has way too
much ram. He would have to remove some.

While a Windows PC would probably have settings to remap memory in the BIOS,
Macs don't have a BIOS. Mac's use EFI instead. This is one of the reasons
new computers don't have motherboard drivers for Win9x/ME. They ship with
too much ram.

If he had a W2k cd he could install W2k and then upgrade.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:%23y2Yc4XnIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FBA17CBC-3A93-4ECC-BE39-A9BFFC6A29D3@microsoft.com...
>> Look closely at the iMac pictured here:
>> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>> Notice the disc slot in the side of the monitor? No button, no paperclip
>> hole.
>>
>> There is no mechanical means to eject a disc on a Mac. Any Mac. Not
>> even a paperclip hole. The reason is the Apple operating systems require
>> closing of files prior to ejection so to protect the user from
>> inadvertantly ejecting without first closing files, the user is prevented
>> from doing it mechanically. The Eject key on the keyboard closes any
>> files on the disc that are open before ejecting the disc. The user can
>> also eject a disc from a program menu. In the event a disc gets stuck,
>> it is necessary to shut down the Mac and then restart while holding down
>> the mouse key.
>>
>
> Thank you for spotting the error I made.
>
> Unless the windows installer ejects the CD automatically (which I don't
> think is the case)
> The OP would have to install Win98 first...then upgrade to XP from within
> Win98
>
>
>
>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>>>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>>>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on
>>>> other Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not
>>>> functional during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd
>>>> swap.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
>>> iMac.
>>>
>>> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there
>>> is no eject button...
>>> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed
>>> from the drive too...
>>> as that may work.
>>>
>>> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
>>> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>>>
>>> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
>>> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there
>>>>>>> is a full OS on the disk?
>>>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying
>>>>>>> a new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still
>>>>>> have it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the
>>>>> original Win98 CD.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: re-use XP

Too much ram in the iMac. See my previous clarification.

He has to use Boot Camp or a virtualizer like Parallels.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:u85KgCYnIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:7348826C-50FA-47EF-B12E-20839ED6513C@microsoft.com...
>> Boot Camp supports installing Windows XP and Vista only.
>>
>
>
> How about installing Win98 in a virtual machine...then upgrading that to
> XP?
>
>
>
> I did not see where the OP specified they were going to be using Boot Camp
>
> Of course it would be better to run the OS native
>
>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>>>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>>>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on
>>>> other Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not
>>>> functional during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd
>>>> swap.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
>>> iMac.
>>>
>>> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there
>>> is no eject button...
>>> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed
>>> from the drive too...
>>> as that may work.
>>>
>>> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
>>> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>>>
>>> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
>>> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on the
>>>>>>> iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though there
>>>>>>> is a full OS on the disk?
>>>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying
>>>>>>> a new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still
>>>>>> have it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the
>>>>> original Win98 CD.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: re-use XP

He could use a virtualizer and install XP upgrade edition clean and do the
cd swap when required because at that point the emulated cd drive is under
the control of the virtualization software and not OS/X. He wouldn't need
to install Win98 first.

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:uOBzjJYnIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:etzQhFYnIHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:385620A6-EAFF-4FD3-80BD-1E8EA95C6CCB@microsoft.com...
>>> Not on his iMac, Philo.
>>>
>>> Look for the cd eject button on a Mac optical drive. Guess what? There
>>> isn't one. Mac users use the Eject key on the Mac keyboard to eject cds
>>> and dvds.
>>>
>>> There is no way to perform the shiny media check because the Eject key
>>> on the keyboard is not supported by the Windows Setup keyboard driver.
>>> That key is not enabled until the Macintosh drivers for Windows are
>>> installed once XP itself is installed. There is no way to swap cds
>>> during the installation of XP. That's the only reason an XP upgrade
>>> edition cd cannot be used with Boot Camp.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks fellows. Seems I am stuck with trying to find a full edition from
>> somewhere or going to the Mac forum for an alternative suggestion.
>>
>> Very grateful for your help Colin.
>>
>> Andereida
>
> I also thank Colin for correcting my errors. The only way I can think of
> would be to install
> Virtual machine software, install win98 in that...and then upgrade to
> XP...
>
> So it would of course be easier to just get the full version of XP
> or possibly find someone who is willing to trade CD's assuming all are
> legal
>
 
Re: re-use XP

Your're welcome.

There is a section on the Apple forums for Windows stuff, including Boot
Camp. Consider purchasing a system builder version of XP. An OEM cd does
not do a shiny media check and you can save some money over a retail full
edition. One source is NewEgg, but don't wait too long. Sales will end on
June 30. After that you would have to purchase XP on a site like eBay.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116400
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056

"bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:etzQhFYnIHA.4372@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:385620A6-EAFF-4FD3-80BD-1E8EA95C6CCB@microsoft.com...
>> Not on his iMac, Philo.
>>
>> Look for the cd eject button on a Mac optical drive. Guess what? There
>> isn't one. Mac users use the Eject key on the Mac keyboard to eject cds
>> and dvds.
>>
>> There is no way to perform the shiny media check because the Eject key on
>> the keyboard is not supported by the Windows Setup keyboard driver. That
>> key is not enabled until the Macintosh drivers for Windows are installed
>> once XP itself is installed. There is no way to swap cds during the
>> installation of XP. That's the only reason an XP upgrade edition cd
>> cannot be used with Boot Camp.
>>
>
> Thanks fellows. Seems I am stuck with trying to find a full edition from
> somewhere or going to the Mac forum for an alternative suggestion.
>
> Very grateful for your help Colin.
>
> Andereida
 
Re: re-use XP

Correction. He could upgrade to XP Pro that way because an upgrade-in-place
from W2k to XP Pro is supported, but not XP Home. That would require a
clean installation of Home and he would be right back where he started with
the shiny media check.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:815B719C-AE0B-4557-9268-A7C5725E0111@microsoft.com...
> XP upgrade setup instructs the user to swap cds. It does not eject the cd
> itself.
>
> Win98 probably won't install. You are forgetting that the memory limit
> for Win9x/ME is 512mb. I have heard of it running stably on up to 768MB,
> but no further. He would have to have a stable OS (no BSODs) before he
> could launch the XP upgrade setup from the Win98 desktop. The iMac has
> way too much ram. He would have to remove some.
>
> While a Windows PC would probably have settings to remap memory in the
> BIOS, Macs don't have a BIOS. Mac's use EFI instead. This is one of the
> reasons new computers don't have motherboard drivers for Win9x/ME. They
> ship with too much ram.
>
> If he had a W2k cd he could install W2k and then upgrade.
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%23y2Yc4XnIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:FBA17CBC-3A93-4ECC-BE39-A9BFFC6A29D3@microsoft.com...
>>> Look closely at the iMac pictured here:
>>> http://www.apple.com/imac/
>>> Notice the disc slot in the side of the monitor? No button, no
>>> paperclip hole.
>>>
>>> There is no mechanical means to eject a disc on a Mac. Any Mac. Not
>>> even a paperclip hole. The reason is the Apple operating systems
>>> require closing of files prior to ejection so to protect the user from
>>> inadvertantly ejecting without first closing files, the user is
>>> prevented from doing it mechanically. The Eject key on the keyboard
>>> closes any files on the disc that are open before ejecting the disc.
>>> The user can also eject a disc from a program menu. In the event a disc
>>> gets stuck, it is necessary to shut down the Mac and then restart while
>>> holding down the mouse key.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you for spotting the error I made.
>>
>> Unless the windows installer ejects the CD automatically (which I don't
>> think is the case)
>> The OP would have to install Win98 first...then upgrade to XP from within
>> Win98
>>
>>
>>
>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>>>>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>>>>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on
>>>>> other Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not
>>>>> functional during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd
>>>>> swap.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
>>>> iMac.
>>>>
>>>> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there
>>>> is no eject button...
>>>> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed
>>>> from the drive too...
>>>> as that may work.
>>>>
>>>> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
>>>> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>>>>
>>>> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
>>>> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on
>>>>>>>> the iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though
>>>>>>>> there is a full OS on the disk?
>>>>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying
>>>>>>>> a new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still
>>>>>>> have it)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the
>>>>>> original Win98 CD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: re-use XP


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:A00F7E3A-EE05-4EAC-A084-AFC776A4B6EF@microsoft.com...
> Too much ram in the iMac. See my previous clarification.
>

Actually you can run win98 with more than 512 megs of ram...
first one needs to boot to safe mode...
then there is a vcache setting one can tweak. (I've done it years ago)

Also, if the OP does run win98 in a virtual machine...
virtual machines generally have a setting for how much ram you want to
assign to the guest OS...
by default, the setting is fairly low.

At any rate you have made some very good observations...
ones that I missed


> He has to use Boot Camp or a virtualizer like Parallels.
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:u85KgCYnIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:7348826C-50FA-47EF-B12E-20839ED6513C@microsoft.com...
>>> Boot Camp supports installing Windows XP and Vista only.
>>>
>>
>>
>> How about installing Win98 in a virtual machine...then upgrading that to
>> XP?
>>
>>
>>
>> I did not see where the OP specified they were going to be using Boot
>> Camp
>>
>> Of course it would be better to run the OS native
>>
>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23TDPVSXnIHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:262874B4-95C3-465D-A918-396FE0C31318@microsoft.com...
>>>>> You cannot use the Win98 cd for the shiny media check on your iMac
>>>>> because there is no eject button on your cd drive like there is on
>>>>> other Windows machines. The Eject key on the iMac keyboard is not
>>>>> functional during Windows installation. You just can't make the cd
>>>>> swap.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I went back and read the original post and see the OP is using a 2008
>>>> iMac.
>>>>
>>>> The truth is I have not worked on any macs that new so if you say there
>>>> is no eject button...
>>>> I believe you. I wonder if the old "paperclip" hole has been removed
>>>> from the drive too...
>>>> as that may work.
>>>>
>>>> The alternative would be to actually install Win98 first
>>>> then perform the upgrade from within the OS.
>>>>
>>>> Though upgrading win98 to XP is generally going a bad idea...
>>>> it will work fine from a fresh and unmodified installation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:utYfsgVnIHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%232uR3VVnIHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "bhk" <unvalid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:el4XCpUnIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> My current computer line up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box originally with Win98 but changed in 2005 to XP using a
>>>>>>>> retail XP upgrade disk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My proposed future line up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. 2007 box with VISTA
>>>>>>>> 2. 1999 box scrapped
>>>>>>>> 3. 2008 iMac with OS X and XP dual boot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I right in thinking that the upgrade disk will not install on
>>>>>>>> the iMac (because it won't find a qualifying product) even though
>>>>>>>> there is a full OS on the disk?
>>>>>>>> If so is there any method of converting the disk, perhaps by buying
>>>>>>>> a new license, or is the only option to buy another full disk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can perform a clean install with an XP upgrade cd.
>>>>>>> Your old win98 cd will serve as a qualifying product (if you still
>>>>>>> have it)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very much obliged to you for that answer. Yes, I still have the
>>>>>> original Win98 CD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andereida
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 

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