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Re: Antivirus Software

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"BAP" wrote in message news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
> Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
> You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
> at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming.
> In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
> if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean
> those Folders/Files?

First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show
All Files" and click OK.

Reboot.
Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
-Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
-Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.

Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
offline content, and click OK, and OK.

Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.


> Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
> He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
> a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
> http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
> Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
> Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
> He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
> that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
> that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
> CD before Hard Drive.
> The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
> question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
> that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
> get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
> (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
> and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
> with the newer Windows versions

The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating
system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your computer,
assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. Most
systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, so
please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.

Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, and a
whole lot of others.

It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably discovered.
The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app
specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.


> Can you comment on my concerns?
> Sorry, for asking so much!

Not a problem.


> "glee" wrote:
>
>> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip
>> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no
>> problem:
>> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
>>
>> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above.
>> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email
>> you
>> my copy of the .zip file.
>>
>> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
>> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came
>> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
>> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
>> >
>> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
>> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion
>> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it
>> > is a valid Windows installer package."
>> > Any suggestions?
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
>> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
>> >>
>> >> <quote>
>> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free
>> >> for
>> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no
>> >> further
>> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will
>> >> continue
>> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support
>> >> section
>> >> will remain online for the time being.
>> >> </quote>
>> >>
>> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
>> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if
>> >> > any
>> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a
>> >> > System
>> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using
>> >> > a
>> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt?
>> >> > Thanks!

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
Re: Antivirus Software

Thank you, Glen, for your reply!

Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’.
I assume that is what you are referring to.

Your suggestion:
Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
-Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
-Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.

I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that
%temp% cannot be found.

Regarding the Computer type:
From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru
Start>Accessories>System Information)
OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000
System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp)
System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC)
System Type: X86 based PC
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz
Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB
Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB
Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB
Page File Space: 1.88 GB

Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106.
The address is set to blank.
I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet.
AOL does all that I need to get done, I think!

In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I
will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files
and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear
Forms and Passwords.
As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I
managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times.
Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have
caused no problems.
This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to
without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt.


c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk
deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
deltree /y c:\windows\temp
deltree /y c:\windows\tmp
deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp
deltree /y c:\windows\history
deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
deltree /y c:\windows\recent
Deltree /y c:\recycled\
deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers
Exit

Thank you, again!

"glee" wrote:

> Replies inline.....
>
> "BAP" wrote in message news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming.
> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean
> > those Folders/Files?
>
> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show
> All Files" and click OK.
>
> Reboot.
> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
>
> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
> offline content, and click OK, and OK.
>
> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.
>
>
> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
> > CD before Hard Drive.
> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
> > with the newer Windows versions
>
> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating
> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your computer,
> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. Most
> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, so
> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.
>
> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, and a
> whole lot of others.
>
> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably discovered.
> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app
> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.
>
>
> > Can you comment on my concerns?
> > Sorry, for asking so much!
>
> Not a problem.
>
>
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip
> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no
> >> problem:
> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
> >>
> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above.
> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email
> >> you
> >> my copy of the .zip file.
> >>
> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came
> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
> >> >
> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion
> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it
> >> > is a valid Windows installer package."
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
> >> >>
> >> >> <quote>
> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free
> >> >> for
> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no
> >> >> further
> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will
> >> >> continue
> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support
> >> >> section
> >> >> will remain online for the time being.
> >> >> </quote>
> >> >>
> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a
> >> >> > System
> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt?
> >> >> > Thanks!
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
 
Re: Antivirus Software

Again, I ran into problems sending my initial reply. Here it is, again!
***
Thank you, Glen, for your reply!

My Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’.
I assume that is what you are referring to.

Your other suggestion:
Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
-Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
-Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that
%temp% cannot be found.

Regarding the Computer type:
From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru
Start>Accessories>System Information)
OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000
System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp)
System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC)
System Type: X86 based PC
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz
Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB
Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB
Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB
Page File Space: 1.88 GB

Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106. The address is
set to blank.
I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet.
AOL does all that I need to get done, I think!
In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I
will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files
and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear
Forms and Passwords. As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up
unnecessary files, I managed to put together a batch file that I execute at
times.
Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have
caused no problems.
This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to
without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt.


c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk
deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
deltree /y c:\windows\temp
deltree /y c:\windows\tmp
deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp
deltree /y c:\windows\history
deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
deltree /y c:\windows\recent
Deltree /y c:\recycled\
deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers
Exit

Thanks, again!
***

"glee" wrote:

> Replies inline.....
>
> "BAP" wrote in message news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming.
> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean
> > those Folders/Files?
>
> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show
> All Files" and click OK.
>
> Reboot.
> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
>
> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
> offline content, and click OK, and OK.
>
> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.
>
>
> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
> > CD before Hard Drive.
> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
> > with the newer Windows versions
>
> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating
> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your computer,
> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. Most
> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, so
> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.
>
> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, and a
> whole lot of others.
>
> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably discovered.
> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app
> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.
>
>
> > Can you comment on my concerns?
> > Sorry, for asking so much!
>
> Not a problem.
>
>
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip
> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no
> >> problem:
> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
> >>
> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above.
> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email
> >> you
> >> my copy of the .zip file.
> >>
> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came
> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
> >> >
> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion
> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it
> >> > is a valid Windows installer package."
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
> >> >>
> >> >> <quote>
> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free
> >> >> for
> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no
> >> >> further
> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will
> >> >> continue
> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support
> >> >> section
> >> >> will remain online for the time being.
> >> >> </quote>
> >> >>
> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a
> >> >> > System
> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt?
> >> >> > Thanks!
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
 
Re: Antivirus Software

According to the User Guide for your Vaio
http://www.retrevo.com/s/Sony-PCV-RX370DS-Desktops-manual/id/751bh227/t/2/
this is how you enter the BIOS Setup:

From the Start menu, select Shut Down> Restart.
When the Sony screen displays, press the F2 key on your keyboard.

(You may need to tap the F2 key a few times rapidly as soon as the Sony screen
appears).

Be very careful what you do in the BIOS setup.


Your batch file deletes the Temp folder, not just the files *in* the Temp folder, so
that is why you can't find the Temp folder when you run %temp% from the Run box.
You are executing the batch file in a Windows session without rebooting
afterwards...Windows will not recreate the Temp folder until a reboot. Your batch
file, especially run the way you do it without a reboot, is a very bad practice.

(You should not be deleting folders in the Windows\Spool folder tree either....these
are not necessarily recreated if you delete them, even after a reboot).
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0FF4C1B-9D2B-4DDA-A01A-F10A8300CA30@microsoft.com...
> Thank you, Glen, for your reply!
>
> Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’.
> I assume that is what you are referring to.
>
> Your suggestion:
> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
>
> I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that
> %temp% cannot be found.
>
> Regarding the Computer type:
> From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru
> Start>Accessories>System Information)
> OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000
> System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp)
> System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC)
> System Type: X86 based PC
> Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz
> Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
> Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB
> Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB
> Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB
> Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB
> Page File Space: 1.88 GB
>
> Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106.
> The address is set to blank.
> I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet.
> AOL does all that I need to get done, I think!
>
> In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I
> will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files
> and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear
> Forms and Passwords.
> As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I
> managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times.
> Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have
> caused no problems.
> This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to
> without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt.
>
>
> c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
> deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk
> deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
> deltree /y c:\windows\temp
> deltree /y c:\windows\tmp
> deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp
> deltree /y c:\windows\history
> deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
> deltree /y c:\windows\recent
> Deltree /y c:\recycled\
> deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers
> Exit
>
> Thank you, again!
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> Replies inline.....
>>
>> "BAP" wrote in message
>> news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
>> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
>> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
>> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming.
>> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
>> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean
>> > those Folders/Files?
>>
>> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show
>> All Files" and click OK.
>>
>> Reboot.
>> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
>> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
>> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
>>
>> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
>> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
>> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
>> offline content, and click OK, and OK.
>>
>> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.
>>
>>
>> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
>> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
>> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
>> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
>> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
>> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
>> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
>> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
>> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
>> > CD before Hard Drive.
>> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
>> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
>> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
>> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
>> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
>> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
>> > with the newer Windows versions
>>
>> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating
>> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
>> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your
>> computer,
>> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth.
>> Most
>> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
>> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though,
>> so
>> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.
>>
>> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S,
>> and a
>> whole lot of others.
>>
>> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably
>> discovered.
>> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
>> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app
>> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.
>>
>>
>> > Can you comment on my concerns?
>> > Sorry, for asking so much!
>>
>> Not a problem.
>>
>>
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the
>> >> zip
>> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no
>> >> problem:
>> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
>> >>
>> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above.
>> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will
>> >> email
>> >> you
>> >> my copy of the .zip file.
>> >>
>> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came
>> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
>> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
>> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion
>> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that
>> >> > it
>> >> > is a valid Windows installer package."
>> >> > Any suggestions?
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "glee" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
>> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <quote>
>> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available
>> >> >> free
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no
>> >> >> further
>> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will
>> >> >> continue
>> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support
>> >> >> section
>> >> >> will remain online for the time being.
>> >> >> </quote>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
>> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a
>> >> >> > System
>> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by
>> >> >> > using
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C:
>> >> >> > Prompt?
>> >> >> > Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
 
Re: Antivirus Software



"glee" wrote:

> According to the User Guide for your Vaio
> http://www.retrevo.com/s/Sony-PCV-RX370DS-Desktops-manual/id/751bh227/t/2/
***
Glen, thanks for the interesting site! I have, yet, to browse thru it in
full, but it will a great
reference to me.
***

> this is how you enter the BIOS Setup:
>
> From the Start menu, select Shut Down> Restart.
> When the Sony screen displays, press the F2 key on your keyboard.
>
> (You may need to tap the F2 key a few times rapidly as soon as the Sony screen
> appears).
>


> Be very careful what you do in the BIOS setup.
>
***
Pressing the F2 key got me into the BIOS display and on the Boot display
this is the sequence shown.
1. ATAPI CD-ROM (Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPI MOD)
2. Removable Device (Legacy Floppy)
3. IDE Hard Drive (IBM-DTLA- 307060)
4. Other Boot Device (Disabled)
Silent Boot (Enabled)

I made no changes. What bothered me, however, was the first device. That to
me appears to be the DVD, not the CD Drive. Sony's Rescue Disks, System,
Applications and Drivers on hand, are on CD's Disks.
Should I not change the order?
***
>
> Your batch file deletes the Temp folder, not just the files *in* the Temp folder, so
> that is why you can't find the Temp folder when you run %temp% from the Run >box.
> You are executing the batch file in a Windows session without rebooting
> afterwards...Windows will not recreate the Temp folder until a reboot. Your batch
> file, especially run the way you do it without a reboot, is a very bad practice.
>
> (You should not be deleting folders in the Windows\Spool folder tree > either....these are not necessarily recreated if you delete them, even after a
> reboot).
> --

***
I felt, all along, that certain steps in the batch file were inappropriate
Appropriate corrections will be made, if I decide to use that batch file.

In the meantime, assuming that the Boot order could/should be made, what
would you suggest regarding your earlier statement that I would benefit from
a "bootable floppy or CD 'rescue disk' made by an anti-virus app specifically
for the purpose, with the latest updates"?
Also, since I have been unable to download successfully F-Prot, if you were
to send me your copy of F-PROT, what is the best way to use it?
Thank you, Glen!
***
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D0FF4C1B-9D2B-4DDA-A01A-F10A8300CA30@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you, Glen, for your reply!
> >
> > Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’.
> > I assume that is what you are referring to.
> >
> > Your suggestion:
> > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
> >
> > I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that
> > %temp% cannot be found.
> >
> > Regarding the Computer type:
> > From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru
> > Start>Accessories>System Information)
> > OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000
> > System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp)
> > System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC)
> > System Type: X86 based PC
> > Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz
> > Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
> > Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB
> > Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB
> > Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB
> > Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB
> > Page File Space: 1.88 GB
> >
> > Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106.
> > The address is set to blank.
> > I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet.
> > AOL does all that I need to get done, I think!
> >
> > In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I
> > will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files
> > and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear
> > Forms and Passwords.
> > As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I
> > managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times.
> > Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have
> > caused no problems.
> > This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to
> > without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt.
> >
> >
> > c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
> > deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk
> > deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
> > deltree /y c:\windows\temp
> > deltree /y c:\windows\tmp
> > deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp
> > deltree /y c:\windows\history
> > deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
> > deltree /y c:\windows\recent
> > Deltree /y c:\recycled\
> > deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers
> > Exit
> >
> > Thank you, again!
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> Replies inline.....
> >>
> >> "BAP" wrote in message
> >> news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
> >> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
> >> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
> >> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming.
> >> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
> >> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean
> >> > those Folders/Files?
> >>
> >> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show
> >> All Files" and click OK.
> >>
> >> Reboot.
> >> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> >> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> >> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
> >>
> >> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
> >> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
> >> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
> >> offline content, and click OK, and OK.
> >>
> >> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
> >> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
> >> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
> >> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
> >> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
> >> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
> >> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
> >> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
> >> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
> >> > CD before Hard Drive.
> >> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
> >> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
> >> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
> >> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
> >> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
> >> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
> >> > with the newer Windows versions
> >>
> >> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating
> >> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
> >> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your
> >> computer,
> >> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth.
> >> Most
> >> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
> >> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though,
> >> so
> >> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.
> >>
> >> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S,
> >> and a
> >> whole lot of others.
> >>
> >> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably
> >> discovered.
> >> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
> >> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app
> >> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Can you comment on my concerns?
> >> > Sorry, for asking so much!
> >>
> >> Not a problem.
> >>
> >>
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the
> >> >> zip
> >> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no
> >> >> problem:
> >> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
> >> >>
> >> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above.
> >> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will
> >> >> email
> >> >> you
> >> >> my copy of the .zip file.
> >> >>
> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came
> >> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
> >> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
> >> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion
> >> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > is a valid Windows installer package."
> >> >> > Any suggestions?
> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
> >> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> <quote>
> >> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available
> >> >> >> free
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no
> >> >> >> further
> >> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will
> >> >> >> continue
> >> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support
> >> >> >> section
> >> >> >> will remain online for the time being.
> >> >> >> </quote>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
> >> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if
> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a
> >> >> >> > System
> >> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by
> >> >> >> > using
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C:
> >> >> >> > Prompt?
> >> >> >> > Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> >> http://dts-l.net/
> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
>
>
 
Re: Antivirus Software

Top-posting to save time today.....
It may vary on your system, but my system will boot from whichever optical drive has
a bootable disc in it, so the relevant info in my case is that the first boot device
is ATAPI CD-ROM....an optical drive. Although my BIOS setup shows the master device
in the list, either device will boot if a bootable disc is present in that device,
with the master device having preference.
That said, it does not matter that your listed device is a DVD drive....you can put
your CDs in it just as easily as putting them in the CD-ROM drive. A DVD drive will
read CDs.

If you want to go in and change the order, that's your choice, but I don't really
see the point based on what I described above.

Your other point regarding DOS anti-virus scanning: I did suggest F-Prot for DOS as
an alternative, but it was Bob, not I, who recommended the Ultimate Boot CD for
virus scanning. I still think the best alternative is to create "rescue disks" for
virus scanning, using your current anti-virus's method. What Windows-based
anti-virus are you using now?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:450D434D-6674-4BB4-8A81-9D3765D359C2@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> According to the User Guide for your Vaio
>> http://www.retrevo.com/s/Sony-PCV-RX370DS-Desktops-manual/id/751bh227/t/2/
> ***
> Glen, thanks for the interesting site! I have, yet, to browse thru it in
> full, but it will a great
> reference to me.
> ***
>
>> this is how you enter the BIOS Setup:
>>
>> From the Start menu, select Shut Down> Restart.
>> When the Sony screen displays, press the F2 key on your keyboard.
>>
>> (You may need to tap the F2 key a few times rapidly as soon as the Sony screen
>> appears).
>>
> 
>
>> Be very careful what you do in the BIOS setup.
>>
> ***
> Pressing the F2 key got me into the BIOS display and on the Boot display
> this is the sequence shown.
> 1. ATAPI CD-ROM (Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPI MOD)
> 2. Removable Device (Legacy Floppy)
> 3. IDE Hard Drive (IBM-DTLA- 307060)
> 4. Other Boot Device (Disabled)
> Silent Boot (Enabled)
>
> I made no changes. What bothered me, however, was the first device. That to
> me appears to be the DVD, not the CD Drive. Sony's Rescue Disks, System,
> Applications and Drivers on hand, are on CD's Disks.
> Should I not change the order?
> ***
>>
>> Your batch file deletes the Temp folder, not just the files *in* the Temp folder,
>> so
>> that is why you can't find the Temp folder when you run %temp% from the Run >box.
>> You are executing the batch file in a Windows session without rebooting
>> afterwards...Windows will not recreate the Temp folder until a reboot. Your
>> batch
>> file, especially run the way you do it without a reboot, is a very bad practice.
>>
>> (You should not be deleting folders in the Windows\Spool folder tree >
>> either....these are not necessarily recreated if you delete them, even after a
>> reboot).
>> --
>
> ***
> I felt, all along, that certain steps in the batch file were inappropriate
> Appropriate corrections will be made, if I decide to use that batch file.
>
> In the meantime, assuming that the Boot order could/should be made, what
> would you suggest regarding your earlier statement that I would benefit from
> a "bootable floppy or CD 'rescue disk' made by an anti-virus app specifically
> for the purpose, with the latest updates"?
> Also, since I have been unable to download successfully F-Prot, if you were
> to send me your copy of F-PROT, what is the best way to use it?
> Thank you, Glen!
> ***
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D0FF4C1B-9D2B-4DDA-A01A-F10A8300CA30@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you, Glen, for your reply!
>> >
>> > Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’.
>> > I assume that is what you are referring to.
>> >
>> > Your suggestion:
>> > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
>> > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
>> > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
>> >
>> > I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that
>> > %temp% cannot be found.
>> >
>> > Regarding the Computer type:
>> > From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru
>> > Start>Accessories>System Information)
>> > OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000
>> > System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp)
>> > System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC)
>> > System Type: X86 based PC
>> > Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz
>> > Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
>> > Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB
>> > Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB
>> > Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB
>> > Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB
>> > Page File Space: 1.88 GB
>> >
>> > Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106.
>> > The address is set to blank.
>> > I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet.
>> > AOL does all that I need to get done, I think!
>> >
>> > In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I
>> > will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files
>> > and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear
>> > Forms and Passwords.
>> > As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I
>> > managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times.
>> > Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have
>> > caused no problems.
>> > This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to
>> > without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt.
>> >
>> >
>> > c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\temp
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\tmp
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\history
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\recent
>> > Deltree /y c:\recycled\
>> > deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers
>> > Exit
>> >
>> > Thank you, again!
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Replies inline.....
>> >>
>> >> "BAP" wrote in message
>> >> news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
>> >> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
>> >> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply
>> >> > overwhelming.
>> >> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
>> >> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to
>> >> > clean
>> >> > those Folders/Files?
>> >>
>> >> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable
>> >> "Show
>> >> All Files" and click OK.
>> >>
>> >> Reboot.
>> >> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
>> >> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
>> >> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
>> >>
>> >> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
>> >> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
>> >> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
>> >> offline content, and click OK, and OK.
>> >>
>> >> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
>> >> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
>> >> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
>> >> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
>> >> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
>> >> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
>> >> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
>> >> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
>> >> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
>> >> > CD before Hard Drive.
>> >> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
>> >> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
>> >> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
>> >> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
>> >> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
>> >> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
>> >> > with the newer Windows versions
>> >>
>> >> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an
>> >> operating
>> >> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
>> >> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your
>> >> computer,
>> >> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth.
>> >> Most
>> >> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
>> >> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do,
>> >> though,
>> >> so
>> >> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.
>> >>
>> >> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S,
>> >> and a
>> >> whole lot of others.
>> >>
>> >> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably
>> >> discovered.
>> >> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
>> >> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus
>> >> app
>> >> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Can you comment on my concerns?
>> >> > Sorry, for asking so much!
>> >>
>> >> Not a problem.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "glee" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> zip
>> >> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> problem:
>> >> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link
>> >> >> above.
>> >> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will
>> >> >> email
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> my copy of the .zip file.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1
>> >> >> > came
>> >> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
>> >> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
>> >> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This
>> >> >> > installatrion
>> >> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > is a valid Windows installer package."
>> >> >> > Any suggestions?
>> >> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "glee" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
>> >> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> <quote>
>> >> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still
>> >> >> >> available
>> >> >> >> free
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and
>> >> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> further
>> >> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> continue
>> >> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
>> >> >> >> support
>> >> >> >> section
>> >> >> >> will remain online for the time being.
>> >> >> >> </quote>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
>> >> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know
>> >> >> >> > if
>> >> >> >> > any
>> >> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a
>> >> >> >> > System
>> >> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by
>> >> >> >> > using
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C:
>> >> >> >> > Prompt?
>> >> >> >> > Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> >> http://dts-l.net/
>> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
 
Re: Antivirus Software



"glee" wrote:

> Top-posting to save time today.....
> It may vary on your system, but my system will boot from whichever optical drive has
> a bootable disc in it, so the relevant info in my case is that the first boot device
> is ATAPI CD-ROM....an optical drive. Although my BIOS setup shows the master device
> in the list, either device will boot if a bootable disc is present in that device,
> with the master device having preference.
> That said, it does not matter that your listed device is a DVD drive....you can put
> your CDs in it just as easily as putting them in the CD-ROM drive. A DVD drive will
> read CDs.
***
Sony’s System and Applications Recovery CD’s do work if inserted in either
DVD
or CD_ROM drives.
***
>
> If you want to go in and change the order, that's your choice, but I don't really
> see the point based on what I described above.
>
> Your other point regarding DOS anti-virus scanning: I did suggest F-Prot for DOS as
> an alternative, but it was Bob, not I, who recommended the Ultimate Boot CD for
> virus scanning. I still think the best alternative is to create "rescue disks" for
> virus scanning, using your current anti-virus's method. What Windows-based
> anti-virus are you using now?
***

Sorry, Glen! I could not get back and reply to you on this matter for the
following reason. It is a rather long story, but I hope you will have
patience to stay with it.
On 4/13/2008, I downloaded ‘avg75free_519a1276.exe ‘.(34.2MG) and saved it.
That process took a while, because of my phone line connection.
At that time, I had no other clue about what might have been best to go
after.....free, of course.
I installed it at a later time, but did not go for any recent updates, since
I was not online. After its installation, I noticed that the response to my
‘click’ to anything took extra time. Anyway, when online, I did go after the
updates and got them.
At its completion, it asked to restart the Computer for completing the
installation.
I accepted it. The Internet connection was broken, of course, but that is
when all went bad. When the PC was booting, it got to the W98ME splash screen
and just ‘got stuck’. The indicator light by the restart button remained
steadily on ’ red’ without any blinking activity. It seemed to stay forever
on that mode. I got panicky and started messing with Boot Disk or Sony’s
Rescue Disks, without making
any changes. I did use the Boot disk and ran scanreg /restore and restored
the Registry of an earlier date. Nothing came about, until I went away for
several hours and let it at that mode. Eventually, it worked out and that is
when I started the post we are in, at the moment.
To be safe, I uninstalled AVG via Start>Settings>Control Panel>Add/Remove
Programs fearing additional problems. The originally downloaded software was
still on my HD.
Fears that my system had been infected led me to ask for means to scan it at
the MS-DOS prompt. After suggestions about Rescue Disks, I re-installed AVG
and decided to create the Rescue Disks. Thinking that only Floppy Diskette
would be required, I purchased two boxes of Memorex Formatted Cool Disks.
That was a total of 20 diskettes. I created the Rescue Disks. That required
21 Diskettes. I got it all done with the proper ID’s.

When I logged on to the Internet on the next day, I was prompted to update
the out-of-date AVG. After that was done, I was prompted to Restart the
Computer to complete the installation. I allowed to do so, but, as before,
the system froze on the W98 ME Splash Screen. Again, in panic, I took
similar steps following the earlier mishap, including the restoration of an
earlier registry. Things did not improve.
I thought to try the AVG rescue disks. That meant re-inserting the 21
Floppies.
The task got as far as #8 which has a file ‘incavi.002'. Somehow, the
system would not recognize it as such and kept asking that Disk #8 be
inserted.
I had no choice but to abort the procedure. PC restarting produced the same
frozen state.
Having other duties to tend to, I let it stay on that mode. When I went back
to it, after several hours, the screen was filled with warnings. I am very
sorry that I did not try to make note of any of the ones shown. Each appeared
to say the same thing, like not being able to copy a given file. At the very
end, it said that Windows may not start properly. If that was the case, it
suggested to restart Setup. I chose to continue and all appeared to be back
to normal.
Note that, to my knowledge, I did not initiate Setup nor do I have a clue as
to how to do so.
At this point, the AVG is not activated.
Than k you, for your patience!
***
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:450D434D-6674-4BB4-8A81-9D3765D359C2@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> According to the User Guide for your Vaio
> >> http://www.retrevo.com/s/Sony-PCV-RX370DS-Desktops-manual/id/751bh227/t/2/
> > ***
> > Glen, thanks for the interesting site! I have, yet, to browse thru it in
> > full, but it will a great
> > reference to me.
> > ***
> >
> >> this is how you enter the BIOS Setup:
> >>
> >> From the Start menu, select Shut Down> Restart.
> >> When the Sony screen displays, press the F2 key on your keyboard.
> >>
> >> (You may need to tap the F2 key a few times rapidly as soon as the Sony screen
> >> appears).
> >>
> > 
> >
> >> Be very careful what you do in the BIOS setup.
> >>
> > ***
> > Pressing the F2 key got me into the BIOS display and on the Boot display
> > this is the sequence shown.
> > 1. ATAPI CD-ROM (Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPI MOD)
> > 2. Removable Device (Legacy Floppy)
> > 3. IDE Hard Drive (IBM-DTLA- 307060)
> > 4. Other Boot Device (Disabled)
> > Silent Boot (Enabled)
> >
> > I made no changes. What bothered me, however, was the first device. That to
> > me appears to be the DVD, not the CD Drive. Sony's Rescue Disks, System,
> > Applications and Drivers on hand, are on CD's Disks.
> > Should I not change the order?
> > ***
> >>
> >> Your batch file deletes the Temp folder, not just the files *in* the Temp folder,
> >> so
> >> that is why you can't find the Temp folder when you run %temp% from the Run >box.
> >> You are executing the batch file in a Windows session without rebooting
> >> afterwards...Windows will not recreate the Temp folder until a reboot. Your
> >> batch
> >> file, especially run the way you do it without a reboot, is a very bad practice.
> >>
> >> (You should not be deleting folders in the Windows\Spool folder tree >
> >> either....these are not necessarily recreated if you delete them, even after a
> >> reboot).
> >> --
> >
> > ***
> > I felt, all along, that certain steps in the batch file were inappropriate
> > Appropriate corrections will be made, if I decide to use that batch file.
> >
> > In the meantime, assuming that the Boot order could/should be made, what
> > would you suggest regarding your earlier statement that I would benefit from
> > a "bootable floppy or CD 'rescue disk' made by an anti-virus app specifically
> > for the purpose, with the latest updates"?
> > Also, since I have been unable to download successfully F-Prot, if you were
> > to send me your copy of F-PROT, what is the best way to use it?
> > Thank you, Glen!
> > ***
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> >> http://dts-l.net/
> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D0FF4C1B-9D2B-4DDA-A01A-F10A8300CA30@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thank you, Glen, for your reply!
> >> >
> >> > Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’.
> >> > I assume that is what you are referring to.
> >> >
> >> > Your suggestion:
> >> > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> >> > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> >> > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
> >> >
> >> > I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that
> >> > %temp% cannot be found.
> >> >
> >> > Regarding the Computer type:
> >> > From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru
> >> > Start>Accessories>System Information)
> >> > OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000
> >> > System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp)
> >> > System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC)
> >> > System Type: X86 based PC
> >> > Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz
> >> > Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
> >> > Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB
> >> > Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB
> >> > Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB
> >> > Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB
> >> > Page File Space: 1.88 GB
> >> >
> >> > Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106.
> >> > The address is set to blank.
> >> > I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet.
> >> > AOL does all that I need to get done, I think!
> >> >
> >> > In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I
> >> > will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files
> >> > and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear
> >> > Forms and Passwords.
> >> > As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I
> >> > managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times.
> >> > Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have
> >> > caused no problems.
> >> > This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to
> >> > without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\temp
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\tmp
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\history
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\recent
> >> > Deltree /y c:\recycled\
> >> > deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers
> >> > Exit
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, again!
> >> >
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Replies inline.....
> >> >>
> >> >> "BAP" wrote in message
> >> >> news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results.
> >> >> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself
> >> >> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply
> >> >> > overwhelming.
> >> >> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp,
> >> >> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to
> >> >> > clean
> >> >> > those Folders/Files?
> >> >>
> >> >> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable
> >> >> "Show
> >> >> All Files" and click OK.
> >> >>
> >> >> Reboot.
> >> >> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files:
> >> >> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK.
> >> >> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete.
> >> >>
> >> >> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer):
> >> >> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab.
> >> >> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all
> >> >> offline content, and click OK, and OK.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post.
> >> >> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from
> >> >> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at
> >> >> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
> >> >> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image".
> >> >> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’
> >> >> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure
> >> >> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels
> >> >> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and
> >> >> > CD before Hard Drive.
> >> >> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original
> >> >> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In
> >> >> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to
> >> >> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS
> >> >> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer
> >> >> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available
> >> >> > with the newer Windows versions
> >> >>
> >> >> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an
> >> >> operating
> >> >> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the
> >> >> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your
> >> >> computer,
> >> >> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth.
> >> >> Most
> >> >> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the
> >> >> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do,
> >> >> though,
> >> >> so
> >> >> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down.
> >> >>
> >> >> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S,
> >> >> and a
> >> >> whole lot of others.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably
> >> >> discovered.
> >> >> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I
> >> >> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus
> >> >> app
> >> >> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Can you comment on my concerns?
> >> >> > Sorry, for asking so much!
> >> >>
> >> >> Not a problem.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> zip
> >> >> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> problem:
> >> >> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link
> >> >> >> above.
> >> >> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will
> >> >> >> email
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> my copy of the .zip file.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1
> >> >> >> > came
> >> >> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive."
> >> >> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi
> >> >> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This
> >> >> >> > installatrion
> >> >> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > is a valid Windows installer package."
> >> >> >> > Any suggestions?
> >> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
> >> >> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> <quote>
> >> >> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still
> >> >> >> >> available
> >> >> >> >> free
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and
> >> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> >> further
> >> >> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files
> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> continue
> >> >> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS
> >> >> >> >> support
> >> >> >> >> section
> >> >> >> >> will remain online for the time being.
> >> >> >> >> </quote>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can
> >> >> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know
> >> >> >> >> > if
 
Re: Antivirus Software

"BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DB1E7A69-7937-4429-9351-3A3DC8632E6B@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> Top-posting to save time today.....
>> It may vary on your system, but my system will boot from whichever optical drive
>> has
>> a bootable disc in it, so the relevant info in my case is that the first boot
>> device
>> is ATAPI CD-ROM....an optical drive. Although my BIOS setup shows the master
>> device
>> in the list, either device will boot if a bootable disc is present in that
>> device,
>> with the master device having preference.
>> That said, it does not matter that your listed device is a DVD drive....you can
>> put
>> your CDs in it just as easily as putting them in the CD-ROM drive. A DVD drive
>> will
>> read CDs.
> ***
> Sony’s System and Applications Recovery CD’s do work if inserted in either
> DVD
> or CD_ROM drives.
> ***
>>
>> If you want to go in and change the order, that's your choice, but I don't really
>> see the point based on what I described above.
>>
>> Your other point regarding DOS anti-virus scanning: I did suggest F-Prot for DOS
>> as
>> an alternative, but it was Bob, not I, who recommended the Ultimate Boot CD for
>> virus scanning. I still think the best alternative is to create "rescue disks"
>> for
>> virus scanning, using your current anti-virus's method. What Windows-based
>> anti-virus are you using now?
> ***
> 
> Sorry, Glen! I could not get back and reply to you on this matter for the
> following reason. It is a rather long story, but I hope you will have
> patience to stay with it.
> On 4/13/2008, I downloaded ‘avg75free_519a1276.exe ‘.(34.2MG) and saved it.
> That process took a while, because of my phone line connection.
> At that time, I had no other clue about what might have been best to go
> after.....free, of course.
> I installed it at a later time, but did not go for any recent updates, since
> I was not online. After its installation, I noticed that the response to my
> ‘click’ to anything took extra time. Anyway, when online, I did go after the
> updates and got them.
> At its completion, it asked to restart the Computer for completing the
> installation.
> I accepted it. The Internet connection was broken, of course, but that is
> when all went bad. When the PC was booting, it got to the W98ME splash screen
> and just ‘got stuck’. The indicator light by the restart button remained
> steadily on ’ red’ without any blinking activity. It seemed to stay forever
> on that mode. I got panicky and started messing with Boot Disk or Sony’s
> Rescue Disks, without making
> any changes. I did use the Boot disk and ran scanreg /restore and restored
> the Registry of an earlier date. Nothing came about, until I went away for
> several hours and let it at that mode. Eventually, it worked out and that is
> when I started the post we are in, at the moment.
> To be safe, I uninstalled AVG via Start>Settings>Control Panel>Add/Remove
> Programs fearing additional problems. The originally downloaded software was
> still on my HD.
> Fears that my system had been infected led me to ask for means to scan it at
> the MS-DOS prompt. After suggestions about Rescue Disks, I re-installed AVG
> and decided to create the Rescue Disks. Thinking that only Floppy Diskette
> would be required, I purchased two boxes of Memorex Formatted Cool Disks.
> That was a total of 20 diskettes. I created the Rescue Disks. That required
> 21 Diskettes. I got it all done with the proper ID’s.
>
> When I logged on to the Internet on the next day, I was prompted to update
> the out-of-date AVG. After that was done, I was prompted to Restart the
> Computer to complete the installation. I allowed to do so, but, as before,
> the system froze on the W98 ME Splash Screen. Again, in panic, I took
> similar steps following the earlier mishap, including the restoration of an
> earlier registry. Things did not improve.
> I thought to try the AVG rescue disks. That meant re-inserting the 21
> Floppies.
> The task got as far as #8 which has a file ‘incavi.002'. Somehow, the
> system would not recognize it as such and kept asking that Disk #8 be
> inserted.
> I had no choice but to abort the procedure. PC restarting produced the same
> frozen state.
> Having other duties to tend to, I let it stay on that mode. When I went back
> to it, after several hours, the screen was filled with warnings. I am very
> sorry that I did not try to make note of any of the ones shown. Each appeared
> to say the same thing, like not being able to copy a given file. At the very
> end, it said that Windows may not start properly. If that was the case, it
> suggested to restart Setup. I chose to continue and all appeared to be back
> to normal.
> Note that, to my knowledge, I did not initiate Setup nor do I have a clue as
> to how to do so.
> At this point, the AVG is not activated.
> Than k you, for your patience!

I think a lot of the problems you are having relate to getting corrupted downloads.
For whatever reason....Internet connection too slow, too poor, or
whatever....installers and updates you download are becoming damaged before the
download is complete.

Also, you may have AVG installed with the option to do a virus scan every time you
boot up....they call it a boot scan. You'll need to disable that, as it may be
involved in the freeze you describe. If you can get into Windows, you can disable
it via Start> Run> msconfig> Startup tab. If Windows won't start, you can start in
DOS mode and edit the entry out of the autoexec.bat file.

The inability to use AVG's diskettes is due to a damaged floppy diskette.....#8,
apparently.

You may want to go with the Ultimate Boot CD after all, if you're having so much
trouble with AVG's methods. The rhetorical question there is, can you download a
viable image from them, or will your Internet connection corrupt that too?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
Re: Antivirus Software

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:u6iAXUarIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> snippet
> Also, you may have AVG installed with the option to do a virus scan every time you
> boot up....they call it a boot scan. You'll need to disable that, as it may be
> involved in the freeze you describe. If you can get into Windows, you can disable
> it via Start> Run> msconfig> Startup tab. If Windows won't start, you can start
> in DOS mode and edit the entry out of the autoexec.bat file.
> snip

Error. That should state "If you can get into Windows, you can disable it via
Start> Run> msconfig> Autoexec.bat tab"
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
Re: Antivirus Software

I think that I can deal with what you saying regarding the Autoexec.bat.
As far as the downloading problems, I might retry to take more cautious
steps while re-installing AVG or getting the Ultimate Boot CD. That latter
package is rather large, at more than 224MB. My moden-phone connection, with
the downloading problems, will make that task almost impossible. I will ask
one of my friends to get it on DSL-type connection and burn it on a CD for me
to trry out.
Thank you for your help, Glen!
*****

"glee" wrote:

> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:u6iAXUarIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > snippet
> > Also, you may have AVG installed with the option to do a virus scan every time you
> > boot up....they call it a boot scan. You'll need to disable that, as it may be
> > involved in the freeze you describe. If you can get into Windows, you can disable
> > it via Start> Run> msconfig> Startup tab. If Windows won't start, you can start
> > in DOS mode and edit the entry out of the autoexec.bat file.
> > snip
>
> Error. That should state "If you can get into Windows, you can disable it via
> Start> Run> msconfig> Autoexec.bat tab"
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
 
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