Re: Testing
Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Sun, 18 May 2008 21:54:23 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|>| On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:29:53 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
|>| finger to keyboard and composed:
|>|
|>|>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|>|>| On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:32 +1000, Franc Zabkar
|>|>| <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
|>|>|
|>|>|>On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid>
|>|>|>put finger to keyboard and composed:
|>|>|>
|>|>|>>f lood
|>|>|>
|>|>|>Let me try one more thing. I'm now using Internode's news server
|>|>|>exclusively to send this reply. Previously I was using both
|>|>|>Internode and MS in my access plan.
|>|>|>
|>|>|>f lood
|>|>|>
|>|>|>- Franc Zabkar
|>|>|
|>|>| OK, so the message got through. It seems that MS groups are not
|>|>| moderated as far as Usenet is concerned. The filtering must be
|>|>| local to the MS news server. This means that only those using the
|>|>| MS server will be affected.
|>|>
|>|>ALL THREE instances of the word "f lood" in this post have a space
|>|>between the "f" & "l"-- therefore, it STILL isn't getting through to
|>|>this NG! I don't believe your theory about using a different news
|>|>server holds water. I don't see the thanatoid post you responded to,
|>|>either! It seems you are responding to my post, instead!
|>|
|>| You won't see thanatoid's post because you are getting your news
|>| feed from a filtered source, ie MS. I see it because I have two news
|>| servers in my access plan, MS and Internode.
|>|
|>| Thanatoid was able to use the actual word because he posted to a
|>| non-MS news server, but I had to add a space to his word in my reply
|>| because I was using MS.
|>
|>So, no matter what news server you or thanatoid may use, still it
|>won't be visible to anyone using just the MS server? Where is the
|>post? Is it taken & stored by MS-- or is it at Internode's storage
|>area?
|>
|>| See the Google Groups archives:
|>|
|>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/b
rowse_thread/thread/a5e46018ef6dbc9f/f38d3185d7d44421?lnk=st&q=#
|>
|>I see at Google thanatoid actually posted that forbidden word to me!
|>It was me he was trying to drown-- but I never saw it! You then
|>responded to him, & I see your response, because you put spaces into
|>"f l o o d". Later, you actually did post the word without any
|>spaces. But I don't see it here, only at Google.
|>
|>What does it all mean? Google says the NG it is drawing posts from is
|>this one. So, these posts are actually stored at an MS data area? Or
|>can it be Google somehow draws the forbidden ones from an Internode
|>storage area?
|
| When you post a message to Usenet, it goes to the news server of your
| choice. This news server then propagates your post to other news
| servers, and these propagate it to others, and so on. Each news server
| stores a copy of the post for a limited time, after which it is
| discarded. Some news servers have a retention period of a few days,
| others retain your post for 6 months or more. Google archives them for
| posterity.
So, each news server has its own storage area for posts to this MS
newsgroup, it seems. And no matter which we post to, all of them should
get the post because they should send it to each other. HOWEVER, it
seems MS will delete forbidden ones & not share them. It will delete
them whether sent directly to them by a user or whether another NG feeds
it to them-- right? But you may still see it at Internode, if it was
originally sent through them. You don't see any of my attempts to post
that word into this thread-- right?
| When thanatoid posted his "forbidden" message, his news server
| propagated it to both MS and Internode. I saw it in my Internode news
| feed but you didn't see it because your MS news feed is filtered.
I guess MS deletes them from its storage area. You 'n thanatoid are
seeing them at Internode. But you don't see the ones I posted to this
thread using the MS server-- right?
| My news reader, Agent, has two news servers in its access plan, MS and
| Internode. When retrieving messages, Agent downloads every message at
| both news servers. However, when sending messages, Agent tries the
| news servers in order. MS is first on my list, so if Agent is
| successful in posting to MS, then it doesn't post the same message
| again to Internode.
Hmm. OK.
| That's why I wasn't able to see my own forbidden
| posts.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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