Hi, all!

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Re: Hi, all!

Tony,
What does the calibrating software calibrate?
Why would you want to calibrate the monitor?

OTOH, my advice is that when you turn on your PC and are sitting in front of
that jumbo monitor, you might want to fasten your seat belt not to be blown
away by your rig.
:)
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> To tell you the truth - on my way back home I nearly fell sick, thinking of
> the cost, but then I remembered buying my MAG 19" CRT four years ago and
> what that did to my work-space. At this time, and thinking of the recent
> development (and my age!), it seemed natural to bridge into the future now
> and buying a flat-screen today means having a wide-screen and having a
> wide-screen means that a 24" will give me a slightly smaller picture than my
> existing 19" VGA format. I know I would be severely depressed by that fact
> within a few days. So, 26" displays are extremely rare and extremely
> expensive for a relatively small size expansion and the 30" HP I ordered is
> a bit more expensive than those but also entails a noticeable enlargement
> that will eventually (I hope!) make up for the cost.
>
> The screen comes with calibrating software but no hardware (obviously), if
> someone happens to know:
>
> could I use a Web-Camera or a Digital Camera as a simple means of
> Calibrating Reference
> when I set up the display at my home? I have a Casio 7.2 MPx camera
> that can produce
> astonishingly natural pictures.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:A55812A0-2530-4365-9F0B-3F38D68C0BAD@microsoft.com...
> > Congratulations! Sounds like a great resolution.
> >
>
>
>
 
Re: Hi, all!

As far as I know, Carlos, to have absolutely correct levels of Light -
Contrast - Saturation and Gamma from your screen and all of these
corresponding with the printed images, professional displays was always
expected to be calibrated with a *.CCM file and standard images as reference
and fine-tuning by doing measurements in the room where you are sitting.

Personally, with my ageing eyes and all, I am not all that critical and
probably not even qualified to notice the finer details that some would
judge as being non-fit for the purpose, but I would certainly expect to want
to make adjustments to the factory settings as my room does not in any way
resemble a standard office environment. I also understand that calibration
is more important with larger displays and much more with TFT/LCD displays.
Next time you pass a TV shop window, have a look at the wall of screens and
the wildly varying quality they show and that should answer your question I
guess.

So, not motivated to pay for professional equipment, I thought that perhaps
I could make a short cut and take a photo of the room and use that as
reference to calibrate the display in that room.

I don't really know - Tom's Hardware tested the monster and said the factory
settings were unusually good but that the quality became noticeably better
after calibration (using professional equipment, I gather).

I expect the software to be a beautyfied version of the good old VGA test
routines that you probably know. In addition to the seat belt I have
contemplated bolting the chair to the floor as well, it IS going to be
really, REALLY good! I know it and I think I deserve it, and I will savour
every moment there.

(Yes, I will!)


Tony. . .


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:327609B9-7F36-4B99-9590-AAF905EE055D@microsoft.com...
> Tony,
> What does the calibrating software calibrate?
> Why would you want to calibrate the monitor?
>
> OTOH, my advice is that when you turn on your PC and are sitting in front
of
> that jumbo monitor, you might want to fasten your seat belt not to be
blown
> away by your rig.
> :)
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > To tell you the truth - on my way back home I nearly fell sick, thinking
of
> > the cost, but then I remembered buying my MAG 19" CRT four years ago and
> > what that did to my work-space. At this time, and thinking of the recent
> > development (and my age!), it seemed natural to bridge into the future
now
> > and buying a flat-screen today means having a wide-screen and having a
> > wide-screen means that a 24" will give me a slightly smaller picture
than my
> > existing 19" VGA format. I know I would be severely depressed by that
fact
> > within a few days. So, 26" displays are extremely rare and extremely
> > expensive for a relatively small size expansion and the 30" HP I ordered
is
> > a bit more expensive than those but also entails a noticeable
enlargement
> > that will eventually (I hope!) make up for the cost.
> >
> > The screen comes with calibrating software but no hardware (obviously),
if
> > someone happens to know:
> >
> > could I use a Web-Camera or a Digital Camera as a simple means
of
> > Calibrating Reference
> > when I set up the display at my home? I have a Casio 7.2 MPx
camera
> > that can produce
> > astonishingly natural pictures.
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:A55812A0-2530-4365-9F0B-3F38D68C0BAD@microsoft.com...
> > > Congratulations! Sounds like a great resolution.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
 
Re: Hi, all!

The write speed is a little slow but the read speed is great.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:57D803E9-B5FA-40DF-B4EB-60807527307D@microsoft.com...
> That's the biggest problem with them now. Also, they're not nearly as fast
> as one might hope, though still better than a HD.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6C2AD666-0A67-4A2A-8B67-F40BA1893687@microsoft.com...
>> By the way, here are two examples of internal SSD drives.
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183094 (typical
>> but too small for a system drive)
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 (sticker
>> shock, anyone?)
>>
>> and this is an external (ExpressCard):
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820191058
>>
>> As the pricing suggests, SSD drives are in their infancy.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...
>>> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.
>>>
>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, Solid State - sorry!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...
>>>>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit
>>>>> cpus
>>>>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.
>>>>>
>>>>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state
>>>>> drives?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody
>>>>> > but
>>>> the
>>>>> > severely nostalgic will remember.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present
>>>>> > transition
>>>>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be
>>>>> > 128bit
>>>>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that
>>>>> > remain
>>>>> > will
>>>>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'
>>>>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be
>>>>> > resurrected
>>>>> > in one fashion or other?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when
>>>>> > Flash
>>>>> > drives
>>>>> > replaces HD's!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tony. . .
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...
>>>>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly
>>>>> >> number
>>>> of
>>>>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking
>>>>> >> about
>>>> how
>>>>> > to
>>>>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming
>>>>> >> months. I
>>>>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"
>>>>> >> option
>>>> for
>>>>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go
>>>>> >> that
>>>>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3
>>>>> >> years.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Charlie.
>>>>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did
>>>>> >> > think
>>>> the
>>>>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly
>>>>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Tony. . .
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> > message
>>>>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...
>>>>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try
>>>>> >> >> somewhere
>>>>> >> > like
>>>>> >> >> the SBS group.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> --
>>>>> >> >> Charlie.
>>>>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>>>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see
>>>>> >> >> > that
>>>>> > the
>>>>> >> >> > group
>>>>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to
>>>>> >> >> > read
>>>>> >> >> > up
>>>>> >> >> > on
>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>> >> >> > 'goings on'.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Tony. . .
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Hi, all!

And the speed they empty my wallet is amazing.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:847E87A0-C610-49D5-8E0A-8F0C65028FF0@microsoft.com...
> The write speed is a little slow but the read speed is great.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:57D803E9-B5FA-40DF-B4EB-60807527307D@microsoft.com...
>> That's the biggest problem with them now. Also, they're not nearly as
>> fast as one might hope, though still better than a HD.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:6C2AD666-0A67-4A2A-8B67-F40BA1893687@microsoft.com...
>>> By the way, here are two examples of internal SSD drives.
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183094 (typical
>>> but too small for a system drive)
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 (sticker
>>> shock, anyone?)
>>>
>>> and this is an external (ExpressCard):
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820191058
>>>
>>> As the pricing suggests, SSD drives are in their infancy.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...
>>>> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>>> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Yes, Solid State - sorry!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit
>>>>>> cpus
>>>>>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state
>>>>>> drives?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody
>>>>>> > but
>>>>> the
>>>>>> > severely nostalgic will remember.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present
>>>>>> > transition
>>>>>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not
>>>>>> > be
>>>>>> > 128bit
>>>>>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that
>>>>>> > remain
>>>>>> > will
>>>>>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'
>>>>>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be
>>>>>> > resurrected
>>>>>> > in one fashion or other?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when
>>>>>> > Flash
>>>>>> > drives
>>>>>> > replaces HD's!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Tony. . .
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly
>>>>>> >> number
>>>>> of
>>>>>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking
>>>>>> >> about
>>>>> how
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming
>>>>>> >> months. I
>>>>>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"
>>>>>> >> option
>>>>> for
>>>>>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go
>>>>>> >> that
>>>>>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing
>>>>>> >> OEMs and
>>>>>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3
>>>>>> >> years.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Charlie.
>>>>>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did
>>>>>> >> > think
>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly
>>>>>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Tony. . .
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote
>>>>>> >> > in
>>>>>> > message
>>>>>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try
>>>>>> >> >> somewhere
>>>>>> >> > like
>>>>>> >> >> the SBS group.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> --
>>>>>> >> >> Charlie.
>>>>>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in
>>>>>> >> >> message
>>>>>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see
>>>>>> >> >> > that
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> >> >> > group
>>>>>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to
>>>>>> >> >> > read
>>>>>> >> >> > up
>>>>>> >> >> > on
>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> > 'goings on'.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Tony. . .
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Hi, all!

Carlos wrote:
> Now I wonder...
> How many years from now we will see ourselves discussing about x128 or
> x256 OS's?

10-20 years? When did MS make the jump to 32 bit?
 
Re: Hi, all!

Mid 90s. Win95.

"Tony Harding" <ToHard@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:4834fedb$0$11615$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Carlos wrote:
>> Now I wonder...
>> How many years from now we will see ourselves discussing about x128 or
>> x256 OS's?
>
> 10-20 years? When did MS make the jump to 32 bit?
 
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