Windows Vista Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

[Rick]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>
>> <quote>
>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court while
>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them about
>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might be
>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> Photo:
>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>
> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>
> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> year and has been for 10+ years.
>
> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> desktop"?
>
> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>
>
>
>
The bottom line is that you are a lying fudster.

--
Rick

 

[Rick]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 02:20:47 -0400, Rick wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court while
>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them about
>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might be
>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Photo:
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>
>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>> desktop"?
>>>
>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The bottom line is that you are a lying fudster.
>
> So prove my statements above incorrect.
> The BBC recently pegged Linuxat 0.8 percent.
> The hitsink and w3schools sites seem to agree as do many other site stats.
>
> Your "herd mentality" theory holds no water because firefox seems to be
> doing well.

It does hold water. Yes, Firefox usage is growing... after how many
years? And, as more people start using it, more peope will start using it.

>
> The Mac is growing faster than oany other platform.

That depends on how you meausre the growth... pure in crease in numbers,
or percentage growth.

> Linux desktop is still languishing on life support at well below 1 percent.
>
> So what do you have to offer other than baseless claims and insults, Rick?

They aren't baseless.

>
> Maybe you can get Roy Schestowitz to give you the phone numbers to those
> "reliable sources" that live in his head and then at least you would have
> *something* to say.
>
maybe you can get Roy to take you out on a date, and then you might be
able o get rid of your obsession with him.

--
Rick

 

[Moshe Goldfarb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>
> <quote>
> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court while
> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them about
> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might be
> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> </quote>
>
>
> Photo:
> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>
>
> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg

That's hysterical!!!!!!!

The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
year and has been for 10+ years.

So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
desktop"?

Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.




--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>
>> <quote>
>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court while
>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them about
>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might be
>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> Photo:
>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>
> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>
> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> year and has been for 10+ years.
>
> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> desktop"?

You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
for software you can get for free.

On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
away for FREE.

> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.

Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
increase of the size of the market in general.


--
"Facts are facts whether or not you or I can prove them." -- Alan Baker

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[Ezekiel]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)


"Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
>>> be precise.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
>>> Photo:
>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>>
>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>
>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>
>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>> desktop"?
>
> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> for software you can get for free.

Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
around?


> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
> for FREE.

So why are there so few takers? If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
well do you think the iPod would sell?


>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>
> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> increase of the size of the market in general.

Check again.


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[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-
> >> four-city-blocks/
> >>
> >> <quote>
> >> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
> >> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >> while
> >> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >> about
> >> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might
> >> be
> >> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
> >> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >> </quote>
> >>
> >>
> >> Photo:
> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horiz
> >> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >
> > That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >
> > The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> > year and has been for 10+ years.
> >
> > So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> > desktop"?
>
> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> for software you can get for free.
>
> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> away for FREE.
>
> > Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> > those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>
> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> increase of the size of the market in general.

You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...

--
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"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
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'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
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[weedhopper]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)


"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-DBBA7A.08065516052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> > On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-
>> >> four-city-blocks/
>> >>
>> >> <quote>
>> >> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
>> >> Apple
>> >> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>> >> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>> >> while
>> >> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
>> >> about
>> >> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
>> >> might
>> >> be
>> >> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
>> >> Store
>> >> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>> >> </quote>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Photo:
>> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>> >> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horiz
>> >> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>> >
>> > That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>> > year and has been for 10+ years.
>> >
>> > So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>> > desktop"?
>>
>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>> for software you can get for free.
>>
>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
>> away for FREE.
>>
>> > Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>> > those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>>
>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>
> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...

This link shows Apples worldwide market share. You have been presented with
it several times now, but you slither away like a frightened eel.

Maybe if you keep repeating the Mantra it might come true - in a decade or
so - maybe.



"Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5 million PC
shipped in the March quarter, according to IDC. But that market share tally
is up from 2.5 percent in the March quarter a year ago."

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614

 

[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <OThXj.9248$hv2.5224@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"weedhopper" <whopper@verizon.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-DBBA7A.08065516052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> > In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretch
> >> >> es-
> >> >> four-city-blocks/
> >> >>
> >> >> <quote>
> >> >> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >> >> Apple
> >> >> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >> >> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >> >> while
> >> >> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >> >> about
> >> >> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
> >> >> might
> >> >> be
> >> >> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
> >> >> Store
> >> >> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >> >> </quote>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Photo:
> >> >> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >> >> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Ho
> >> >> riz
> >> >> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >> >
> >> > That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >> > year and has been for 10+ years.
> >> >
> >> > So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >> > desktop"?
> >>
> >> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >> for software you can get for free.
> >>
> >> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >> away for FREE.
> >>
> >> > Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >> > those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>
> >> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >
> > You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> > that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
>
> This link shows Apples worldwide market share. You have been presented with
> it several times now, but you slither away like a frightened eel.
>
> Maybe if you keep repeating the Mantra it might come true - in a decade or
> so - maybe.
>
>
>
> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5 million PC
> shipped in the March quarter, according to IDC. But that market share tally
> is up from 2.5 percent in the March quarter a year ago."
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614

What's to run away from? It accords perfectly with what I just said:
Apple is outgrowing the rest of the PC industry.

Thanks!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

 

[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <OThXj.9248$hv2.5224@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> "weedhopper" <whopper@verizon.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-DBBA7A.08065516052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
>>> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
>>> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretch
>>>>>> es-
>>>>>> four-city-blocks/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
>>>>>> Store
>>>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photo:
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Ho
>>>>>> riz
>>>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>>>> desktop"?
>>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>>>> for software you can get for free.
>>>>
>>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
>>>> away for FREE.
>>>>
>>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>>> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
>>> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
>> This link shows Apples worldwide market share. You have been presented with
>> it several times now, but you slither away like a frightened eel.
>>
>> Maybe if you keep repeating the Mantra it might come true - in a decade or
>> so - maybe.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5 million PC
>> shipped in the March quarter, according to IDC. But that market share tally
>> is up from 2.5 percent in the March quarter a year ago."
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
>
> What's to run away from? It accords perfectly with what I just said:
> Apple is outgrowing the rest of the PC industry.
>
> Thanks!

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
2007.

http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007

7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286

Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender

quarter of 2008.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008

2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321

Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%

Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =

.0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%


You're welcome!

--
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[The Ghost In The Machine]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Glorb
<Glorb@orb.com>
wrote
on Fri, 16 May 2008 09:59:29 -0500
<21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>:
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court while
>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them about
>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might be
>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
>>> Photo:
>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>>
>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>
>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>
>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>> desktop"?
>
> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> for software you can get for free.

Correction: *accurate* market share sales.
marketshare.hitslink.com does have some figures (Linux
comes in at the ridiculously low 0.63%) but their
measurement method is slightly suspect, especially
since their homepage has an interesting correction
for April:

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/april.aspx

To their credit, they identified and removed the offending
data on May 7th.

Unfortunately, the link

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10

which is related to

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8

doesn't break out Linux kernel versions, damaging their credibility
(though in all fairness Linux kernel versions aren't easy to get
anyway, even if one has full request headers from Linux browsers).

There's also that "Other" (1.91%). How much of that "Other" is
truly Windows, and how much is Linux masquerading as Windows?
Konqueror in particular can mimick IE as far as external
websites are concerned.

>
> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> away for FREE.
>
>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>
> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> increase of the size of the market in general.
>

The aforementioned marketshare.hitslink.com pegs them at 7.38%.

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[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <967ac$482dae7d$6035@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <OThXj.9248$hv2.5224@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> > "weedhopper" <whopper@verizon.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-DBBA7A.08065516052008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> >>> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> >>> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretc
> >>>>>> h
> >>>>>> es-
> >>>>>> four-city-blocks/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>>>> while
> >>>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
> >>>>>> might
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
> >>>>>> Store
> >>>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - H
> >>>>>> o
> >>>>>> riz
> >>>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>>>> desktop"?
> >>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>>>
> >>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >>>> away for FREE.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> >>> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
> >> This link shows Apples worldwide market share. You have been presented
> >> with
> >> it several times now, but you slither away like a frightened eel.
> >>
> >> Maybe if you keep repeating the Mantra it might come true - in a decade or
> >> so - maybe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Apple's global market share is only 3.3 percent among the 69.5 million PC
> >> shipped in the March quarter, according to IDC. But that market share
> >> tally
> >> is up from 2.5 percent in the March quarter a year ago."
> >>
> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8614
> >
> > What's to run away from? It accords perfectly with what I just said:
> > Apple is outgrowing the rest of the PC industry.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> 2007.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>
> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
>
> quarter of 2008.
>
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008
>
> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>
> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>
> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>
> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>
>
> You're welcome!

Yup.

Just what I said: Apple is outgrowing the industry.

2,289,000/1,517,000 = 151%

Mac sales are up 51% when the overall PC market is only up 12%.

The PC figure comes for your last reference, BTW. In fact, all the
figures I used are from your references, so *bravo*, Edwin!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

 

[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Ezekiel wrote:
> "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
> news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
>>>> be precise.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Photo:
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>
>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>> desktop"?
>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>> for software you can get for free.
>
> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> around?

You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
is using?

>
>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
>> for FREE.
>
> So why are there so few takers?

There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.

> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> well do you think the iPod would sell?

That's an apples to oranges comparison.

>
>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>
> Check again.


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
2007.

http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007

7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286

Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
quarter of 2008.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008

2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321

Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%

Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =

.0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%


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[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-
>>>> four-city-blocks/
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>> while
>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
>>>> about
>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might
>>>> be
>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Photo:
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horiz
>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>
>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>> desktop"?
>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>> for software you can get for free.
>>
>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
>> away for FREE.
>>
>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>
> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
2007.

http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007

7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286

Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
quarter of 2008.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008

2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321

Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%

Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =

.0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%


You're welcome.

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[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <e9a85$482db0a7$6723@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Ezekiel wrote:
> > "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
> > news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
> >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretche
> >>>> s-four-city-blocks/
> >>>>
> >>>> <quote>
> >>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
> >>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
> >>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
> >>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
> >>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
> >>>> be precise.
> >>>> </quote>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Photo:
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Hor
> >>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>
> >>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>> desktop"?
> >> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >> for software you can get for free.
> >
> > Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> > around?
>
> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
> is using?
>
> >
> >> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
> >> for FREE.
> >
> > So why are there so few takers?
>
> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
>
> > If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> > well do you think the iPod would sell?
>
> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
>
> >
> >>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >
> > Check again.
>
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> 2007.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>
> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> quarter of 2008.
>
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008
>
> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>
> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>
> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>
> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%

Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
Source: Edwin!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

 

[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <9a147$482db109$6723@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretche
> >>>> s-
> >>>> four-city-blocks/
> >>>>
> >>>> <quote>
> >>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
> >>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>> while
> >>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >>>> about
> >>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
> >>>> might
> >>>> be
> >>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
> >>>> Store
> >>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >>>> </quote>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Photo:
> >>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Hor
> >>>> iz
> >>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>
> >>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>> desktop"?
> >> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >> for software you can get for free.
> >>
> >> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >> away for FREE.
> >>
> >>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >
> > You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> > that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
>
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> 2007.
>
> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>
> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>
> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>
> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> quarter of 2008.
>
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> of 2008
>
> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>
> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>
> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>
> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>
>
> You're welcome.

And I do thank you!

Your figures show that Apple is *far* outgrowing the industry.

Apple: 51% growth year over year
Overall: 12%.
Source: Edwin!

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

 

[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <e9a85$482db0a7$6723@news.teranews.com>,
> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretche
>>>>>> s-four-city-blocks/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
>>>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
>>>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
>>>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to
>>>>>> be precise.
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photo:
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Hor
>>>>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>>>> desktop"?
>>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>>>> for software you can get for free.
>>> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
>>> around?
>> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
>> is using?
>>
>>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it away
>>>> for FREE.
>>> So why are there so few takers?
>> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
>>
>>> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
>>> well do you think the iPod would sell?
>> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
>>
>>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>>> Check again.
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
>> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
>> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
>> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
>> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
>> 2007.
>>
>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>>
>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>>
>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
>> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
>> quarter of 2008.
>>
>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
>> of 2008
>>
>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>>
>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>>
>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>>
>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>
> Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
> Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
> Source: Edwin!

Who's Edwin, and when did he become an authoritative source for these
figures?

--
"Facts are facts whether or not you or I can prove them." -- Alan Baker



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[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <76c1b$482db2a9$7370@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <e9a85$482db0a7$6723@news.teranews.com>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ezekiel wrote:
> >>> "Glorb" <Glorb@orb.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com...
> >>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretc
> >>>>>> he
> >>>>>> s-four-city-blocks/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>>>> while pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told
> >>>>>> them about the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain.
> >>>>>> Anyhoo, you might be interested to know that the line for the grand
> >>>>>> opening of the Apple Store stretches a country mile! Four city blocks
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> be precise.
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - H
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> izontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>>>> desktop"?
> >>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>> Do you mean like free Firefox where there are plenty of figures to go
> >>> around?
> >> You mean that free Firefox that has a Linux version for the Linux nobody
> >> is using?
> >>
> >>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >>>> away
> >>>> for FREE.
> >>> So why are there so few takers?
> >> There's enough takers for IBM, Sun, Red Hat and Ubuntu to offer it.
> >>
> >>> If iRiver gave away MP3 players for free how
> >>> well do you think the iPod would sell?
> >> That's an apples to oranges comparison.
> >>
> >>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>> Check again.
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> >> 2007.
> >>
> >> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>
> >> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>
> >> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> >> quarter of 2008.
> >>
> >> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> >> of 2008
> >>
> >> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>
> >> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>
> >> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>
> >> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >
> > Mac growth Q1'08: 51%
> > Overall growth Q1'08: 12%
> > Source: Edwin!
>
> Who's Edwin, and when did he become an authoritative source for these
> figures?

Edwin is you and since you provided the figures, they must at least be
authoritative for you.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

 

[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <9a147$482db109$6723@news.teranews.com>,
> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
>>> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretche
>>>>>> s-
>>>>>> four-city-blocks/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
>>>>>> Store
>>>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photo:
>>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Hor
>>>>>> iz
>>>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
>>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>>>> desktop"?
>>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>>>> for software you can get for free.
>>>>
>>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
>>>> away for FREE.
>>>>
>>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>>> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
>>> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
>> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
>> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
>> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
>> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
>> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
>> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
>> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
>> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
>> 2007.
>>
>> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
>>
>> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
>>
>> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
>> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
>> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
>>
>> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
>> quarter of 2008.
>>
>> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
>> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
>> of 2008
>>
>> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
>>
>> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
>>
>> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
>>
>> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
>>
>>
>> You're welcome.
>
> And I do thank you!
>
> Your figures show that Apple is *far* outgrowing the industry.

The rest of the industry grew far more than the 0.35% Apple did between
the end of 2007 and the first quarter of 2008.


> Apple: 51% growth year over year
> Overall: 12%.
> Source: Edwin!

Your source is wrong.

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[Alan Baker]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux store also opens (with photos)

In article <1967c$482db435$7869@news.teranews.com>,
Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <9a147$482db109$6723@news.teranews.com>,
> > Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> In article <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>,
> >>> Glorb <Glorb@orb.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretc
> >>>>>> he
> >>>>>> s-
> >>>>>> four-city-blocks/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street
> >>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
> >>>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court
> >>>>>> while
> >>>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you
> >>>>>> might
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple
> >>>>>> Store
> >>>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Photo:
> >>>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
> >>>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - H
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> iz
> >>>>>> ontal%208x12300%20dpi.jpg
> >>>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
> >>>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
> >>>>> desktop"?
> >>>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
> >>>> for software you can get for free.
> >>>>
> >>>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
> >>>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
> >>>> away for FREE.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
> >>>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
> >>>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
> >>>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
> >>>> increase of the size of the market in general.
> >>> You keep saying this despite being presented reference after reference
> >>> that shows that Apple's sales are growing faster than the industries...
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
> >> fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
> >> 2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
> >> fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
> >> fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
> >> Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
> >> 2007.
> >>
> >> http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
> >> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007
> >>
> >> 7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286
> >>
> >> Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
> >> fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
> >> Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers
> >>
> >> The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
> >> quarter of 2008.
> >>
> >> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
> >> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
> >> of 2008
> >>
> >> 2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321
> >>
> >> Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%
> >>
> >> Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =
> >>
> >> .0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%
> >>
> >>
> >> You're welcome.
> >
> > And I do thank you!
> >
> > Your figures show that Apple is *far* outgrowing the industry.
>
> The rest of the industry grew far more than the 0.35% Apple did between
> the end of 2007 and the first quarter of 2008.

Nope. By definition. If Apple's share of the market grew, then the share
of market held by non-Macs shrank.

>
>
> > Apple: 51% growth year over year
> > Overall: 12%.
> > Source: Edwin!
>
> Your source is wrong.

LOL

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

 

[Glorb]

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

Re: Thousands wait in line for new Apple store - New linux storealso opens (with photos)

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Glorb
> <Glorb@orb.com>
> wrote
> on Fri, 16 May 2008 09:59:29 -0500
> <21719$482da152$1576@news.teranews.com>:
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:13 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/15/line-for-boston-apple-store-stretches-four-city-blocks/
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Oh, hello there. I'm patiently waiting for the new Boylston Street Apple
>>>> Store to open here in Boston. Did I need to show up four hours early?
>>>> Probably not, but I just can't resist sitting in an outdoor food court while
>>>> pigeons buzz within inches of my fragile body. Seems nobody told them about
>>>> the food chain and how humans are atop said food chain. Anyhoo, you might be
>>>> interested to know that the line for the grand opening of the Apple Store
>>>> stretches a country mile! Four city blocks to be precise.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Photo:
>>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mg-0370.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the new linux store opens:
>>>> http://www.friedmanarchives.com/British Columbia/images/Shack - Horizontal 8x12300 dpi.jpg
>>> That's hysterical!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The bottom line is Linux is free for the taking every single day of the
>>> year and has been for 10+ years.
>>>
>>> So the question is, "Why is Linux not gaining any market share on the
>>> desktop"?
>> You answered your own question. There's no market share sales figures
>> for software you can get for free.
>
> Correction: *accurate* market share sales.
> marketshare.hitslink.com does have some figures (Linux
> comes in at the ridiculously low 0.63%) but their
> measurement method is slightly suspect, especially
> since their homepage has an interesting correction
> for April:
>
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/april.aspx
>
> To their credit, they identified and removed the offending
> data on May 7th.
>
> Unfortunately, the link
>
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=10
>
> which is related to
>
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8
>
> doesn't break out Linux kernel versions, damaging their credibility
> (though in all fairness Linux kernel versions aren't easy to get
> anyway, even if one has full request headers from Linux browsers).
>
> There's also that "Other" (1.91%). How much of that "Other" is
> truly Windows, and how much is Linux masquerading as Windows?
> Konqueror in particular can mimick IE as far as external
> websites are concerned.
>
>> On can not help but be astounded by those who would mock and disparage
>> those who are working hard to produce good Linux software and give it
>> away for FREE.
>>
>>> Why are people willing to move from Windows to Mac but not to Linux and
>>> those that do try Linux don't last and dump Linux.
>> Yet Mac Market share is still stuck at about 3% no matter how many more
>> sales Apple makes. That's because their sales increase is due to an
>> increase of the size of the market in general.
>>
>
> The aforementioned marketshare.hitslink.com pegs them at 7.38%.


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/25results.html
fiscal 2007 second quarter ended March 31, 2007
Apple shipped 1,517,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/07/25results.html
2007 third quarter ended June 30, 2007
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/22results.html
fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,164,000 Macintosh® computers

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html
fiscal 2008 first quarter ended December 29, 2007
Apple shipped 2,319,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 7,764,000 Macs in calendar year
2007.

http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=584210
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million units in 2007

7,764,000/271,200,000 = .0286

Mac worldwide market share for 2007 = 2.86 %

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/04/23results.html
fiscal 2008 second quarter ended March 29, 2008
Q2'08 Apple shipped 2,289,000 Macintosh® computers

The above shows Apple shipped 2,289, Macs in the first calender
quarter of 2008.

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=648619
Worldwide PC shipments totaled 71.1 million units in the first quarter
of 2008

2,289,000/71,100,000 = .0321

Mac worldwide market share for Q1'08 = 3.21%

Mac gain in worldwide market share from 2007 to 2008 =

.0321 - .0286 = 0.0035% or 0.35%


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