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Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Vista 64 bit
Probably ought to post these two question in the
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices newsgroup as well.
Make sure you have installed 64bit drivers for the mobo as well.
"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:95311B0C-8C6A-417E-A467-3C547CF42BA2@microsoft.com...
>
>
> Well I did fhally get the 64bit to install but it was draining. Each time
> I
> tired to do a clean install Vista Ultimate 64 would say I did not have a
> genuine copy of windows installed, which was not true but after 4
> different
> department calls to Microsoft I was handed off to India and the guy stayed
> with me thru the whole install.
> No one know why it did not see a real copy of Vista but he changed the key
> and reset it back to the original. In any case it is working...sort of..
> My problem now is ...and I am not sure this is the right forum so maybe
> you
> can point me in the right direction.
> Vista Ultimate will only see 4 gb of my ram instead of the 8 I have and
> even
> tho I download the 64bit drivers for my Nvidia Geforce 8800GT, Vista only
> see's that is a Nivdia card but only gives me a 1 on the graphics index
> which
> is not even close to the 5.7 I should have.
> So perhaps you could tell me where to solve this as well?
>
> Jim
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> The clarifications.
>>
>> >IF I load my 64bit version will it allow me to install the 64 bit ver
>> by
>> > reformatting and doing a clean install (and I would save my files on
>> > another
>> > hard drive).
>>
>> You are not required to reformat and do a clean install in the classic
>> sense. It is not necessary but it will be available to you. If you do
>> not
>> use the disk tools at all but just follow the instructions you will see
>> still see the same two options, upgrade (disabled in the present case)
>> and
>> custom. Custom will roll up the old 32bit Windows into windows.old files
>> and then install the 64bit Windows. You can deal with the windows.old
>> folders later or not as you wish.
>>
>> You will also have the option of using the disk tools if you wish before
>> installing the 64bit Windows in which case there will be no windows.old
>> folders afterwards. The simplest is to just follow the steps and not
>> worry
>> about reformatting and such. Some people think you have to do a classic
>> clean install because they always did with earlier Windows. But the
>> Vista
>> installer works differently from any earlier version and not reformatting
>> does not have the same issues. In other words, you can't get hurt either
>> way now.
>>
>> > Will it do a full install even though it would not see a previous 64bit
>> > OS,
>> > just my 32 bit ver.
>>
>> Vista Setup immediately scans the computer for existing Windows as soon
>> as
>> you enter the upgrade edition product key. It is very nearly
>> instantaneous.
>> It doesn't care about the bitness. It finds the existing Windows and
>> then
>> just lets you proceed. No messages. From that moment on Setup doesn't
>> care
>> about the existing Windows anymore. It has satisfied itself that you
>> qualify to perform an installation using the upgrade pk. It doesn't
>> check
>> again. From that point on it just lets you get on with things your own
>> way.
>> It doesn't matter if you remove the existing Windows after the
>> verification
>> of your pk because Vista Setup is not going to look for it again.
>>
>> > In other words will it install as a full version by reforming the hard
>> > drive
>> > and doing a clean install. Does it need to see a older 64bit version
>> > first?
>> > Will it give me that choice?
>>
>> If you use an upgrade pk Setup does need to see an existing Windows but
>> it
>> does not have to be 64bit and it does not have to keep seeing it all
>> through
>> the installation process. All the existing Windows has to be is Windows
>> 2000 Professional or later, any bitness.
>>
>> All installations of Vista are clean installations of the operating
>> system.
>> As I said, Vista Setup uses an imaging technology in which the formatting
>> is
>> inherent in the image. Setup will only reformat the rest of the drive if
>> it
>> is not already formatted NTFS or if you use the disk tools to do it
>> before
>> confirming installation. Setup will give you choices about where to
>> install Windows if more than one partition is available.
>>
>> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news
ED3AF44-0670-4B44-ADD8-2B79EF32D402@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > thank you for such a full explainion.
>> >
>> > Just so I understand my options. As I said my Vista Ultimate is an
>> > upgrade
>> > version.
>> > And I am running the 32bit ver.
>> > IF I load my 64bit version will it allow me to install the 64 bit ver
>> > by
>> > reformatting and doing a clean install (and I would save my files on
>> > another
>> > hard drive).
>> > Will it do a full install even though it would not see a previous 64bit
>> > OS,
>> > just my 32 bit ver.
>> > In other words will it install as a full version by reforming the hard
>> > drive
>> > and doing a clean install. Does it need to see a older 64bit version
>> > first?
>> > Will it give me that choice?
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>>
Probably ought to post these two question in the
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices newsgroup as well.
Make sure you have installed 64bit drivers for the mobo as well.
"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:95311B0C-8C6A-417E-A467-3C547CF42BA2@microsoft.com...
>
>
> Well I did fhally get the 64bit to install but it was draining. Each time
> I
> tired to do a clean install Vista Ultimate 64 would say I did not have a
> genuine copy of windows installed, which was not true but after 4
> different
> department calls to Microsoft I was handed off to India and the guy stayed
> with me thru the whole install.
> No one know why it did not see a real copy of Vista but he changed the key
> and reset it back to the original. In any case it is working...sort of..
> My problem now is ...and I am not sure this is the right forum so maybe
> you
> can point me in the right direction.
> Vista Ultimate will only see 4 gb of my ram instead of the 8 I have and
> even
> tho I download the 64bit drivers for my Nvidia Geforce 8800GT, Vista only
> see's that is a Nivdia card but only gives me a 1 on the graphics index
> which
> is not even close to the 5.7 I should have.
> So perhaps you could tell me where to solve this as well?
>
> Jim
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> The clarifications.
>>
>> >IF I load my 64bit version will it allow me to install the 64 bit ver
>> by
>> > reformatting and doing a clean install (and I would save my files on
>> > another
>> > hard drive).
>>
>> You are not required to reformat and do a clean install in the classic
>> sense. It is not necessary but it will be available to you. If you do
>> not
>> use the disk tools at all but just follow the instructions you will see
>> still see the same two options, upgrade (disabled in the present case)
>> and
>> custom. Custom will roll up the old 32bit Windows into windows.old files
>> and then install the 64bit Windows. You can deal with the windows.old
>> folders later or not as you wish.
>>
>> You will also have the option of using the disk tools if you wish before
>> installing the 64bit Windows in which case there will be no windows.old
>> folders afterwards. The simplest is to just follow the steps and not
>> worry
>> about reformatting and such. Some people think you have to do a classic
>> clean install because they always did with earlier Windows. But the
>> Vista
>> installer works differently from any earlier version and not reformatting
>> does not have the same issues. In other words, you can't get hurt either
>> way now.
>>
>> > Will it do a full install even though it would not see a previous 64bit
>> > OS,
>> > just my 32 bit ver.
>>
>> Vista Setup immediately scans the computer for existing Windows as soon
>> as
>> you enter the upgrade edition product key. It is very nearly
>> instantaneous.
>> It doesn't care about the bitness. It finds the existing Windows and
>> then
>> just lets you proceed. No messages. From that moment on Setup doesn't
>> care
>> about the existing Windows anymore. It has satisfied itself that you
>> qualify to perform an installation using the upgrade pk. It doesn't
>> check
>> again. From that point on it just lets you get on with things your own
>> way.
>> It doesn't matter if you remove the existing Windows after the
>> verification
>> of your pk because Vista Setup is not going to look for it again.
>>
>> > In other words will it install as a full version by reforming the hard
>> > drive
>> > and doing a clean install. Does it need to see a older 64bit version
>> > first?
>> > Will it give me that choice?
>>
>> If you use an upgrade pk Setup does need to see an existing Windows but
>> it
>> does not have to be 64bit and it does not have to keep seeing it all
>> through
>> the installation process. All the existing Windows has to be is Windows
>> 2000 Professional or later, any bitness.
>>
>> All installations of Vista are clean installations of the operating
>> system.
>> As I said, Vista Setup uses an imaging technology in which the formatting
>> is
>> inherent in the image. Setup will only reformat the rest of the drive if
>> it
>> is not already formatted NTFS or if you use the disk tools to do it
>> before
>> confirming installation. Setup will give you choices about where to
>> install Windows if more than one partition is available.
>>
>> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news
ED3AF44-0670-4B44-ADD8-2B79EF32D402@microsoft.com...>> >
>> > thank you for such a full explainion.
>> >
>> > Just so I understand my options. As I said my Vista Ultimate is an
>> > upgrade
>> > version.
>> > And I am running the 32bit ver.
>> > IF I load my 64bit version will it allow me to install the 64 bit ver
>> > by
>> > reformatting and doing a clean install (and I would save my files on
>> > another
>> > hard drive).
>> > Will it do a full install even though it would not see a previous 64bit
>> > OS,
>> > just my 32 bit ver.
>> > In other words will it install as a full version by reforming the hard
>> > drive
>> > and doing a clean install. Does it need to see a older 64bit version
>> > first?
>> > Will it give me that choice?
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>>