Blue screen's on start up

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Re: Blue screen's on start up

O.K. - this concerns XP installations but you might be able to extract some
usefull info here anyhow?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

One other MS source mentions unsupported hard disks and/or damaged HD's
so, fog is clearing, perhaps?


Tony. . .


"BW~Merlin" <BWMerlin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71EAA38A-B975-45C6-BD16-8BE41B6F85EC@microsoft.com...
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
> > Hi, Tony.
> >
> > > Brown-outs, I think R.C. was specifically thinking about - you may not
> > > know
> > > you have them, standard PC-PSU's can be pretty horrible and they can
> > > create
> > > havoc for no particular apparent reason.
> >
> > Uh, no. Not a PSU (Power Supply Unit - which all PC's have built in).
A
> > UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply), which is external to the PC. It is
> > basically just a big battery that continually recharges itself from the
wall
> > plug and supplies power to the PC's PSU. The UPS plugs into the wall
and
> > has one or more (usually several) receptacles into which we can plug the
PC
> > and peripherals, like a printer, modem, or the PC's monitor. Just
unplug
> > the PC from the wall and plug it into the UPS. When there is a power
> > failure, the PC doesn't even blink or notice until the battery runs
down.
> > As soon as the power comes on again, the battery recharges for next
time.
> >
> > The better UPSes also have power line conditioning (by whatever fancy
name
> > the UPS marketer chooses to call it). This smoothes out brownouts and
> > spikes, so that the PC always gets clean, conditioned power.
> >
> > Perhaps the OP's shop uses a good UPS, but the OP has confirmed "UPS no"
at
> > home. He did say "power board yes", but I don't know what that means.
>
> A power board (to my understanding) is a multi-port board that can also
> provided power surge protection (a bit like a double adapter).
>
> I received the blue screen message again.
> Stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure}
> The registry cannot load the hive (file):
> \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SECURITY
> or its log or alternate.
> It is corrupt, absent, or not writable.
>
> A press of the restart button, select start windows normally and all it
back
> to normal.
>
> Thanks
 
Re: Blue screen's on start up

On Jun 10, 4:21 am, BW~Merlin <BWMer...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I received the blue screen message again.
> Stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure}
> The registry cannot load the hive (file):
> \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SECURITY
> or its log or alternate.
> It is corrupt, absent, or not writable.
>
> A press of the restart button, select start windows normally and all it back
> to normal.

A long list of reasons could create that failure. Neither the UPS
nor power board solves that problem. At most, they would only cure a
symptom.

Start with usual information sources. What does system (event) logs
report? What does Device Manager show? What is your filesystem (as
reported in Disk Manager)? If in doubt where these are located, then
execute Windows' Help. (Just another example of why not fix a problem
by reloading Windows.)

Hardware diagnostics execute without Windows. Responsible computer
manufacturers provide comprehensive hardware diagnostics for free -
exactly for your problems. What do they report? If not available,
then download diagnostics from the various component manufacturers or
third parties. Most important for your stop code - include a memory
diagnostic (ie Memtst32) and hard drive diagnostic. These are best
executed also when a system is in a 40 degree C room - an ideal
temperature for any properly functioning machine and a problem for
computers with defective hardware.

Moving on - line noise and spikes must be made completely irrelevant
by the power supply. For example, incandescent bulbs must dim to 40%
intensity and your computer must work uninterrupted. However if a
power supply is missing essential functions (bought only on price and
watts) OR if other defects exist; a two minute procedure will find and
report that problem definitively (which means with numbers).

Procedure is posted in "When your computer dies without
warning....." starting 6 Feb 2007 in the newsgroup alt.windows-xp
at:
http://tinyurl.com/yvf9vh
Connector chart to locate each color:
http://www.hardwarebook.net/connector/power/atxpower.html
In your case, the only relevant part is measuring voltages on purple,
red, orange, and yellow wires when CPU accesses (multitasks to) all
peripherals simultaneously. IOW play a movie while downloading a file,
while searching the hard drive, while playing sound on the sound card,
while reading a CD-Rom. Only then are those four DC voltage numbers
relevant. Numbers must exceed 3.23, 4.87, and 11.7 V DC. If yes,
then move on to other suspects - your BSOD is not due to supply and
related AC electric problems.

Of course, proper safety grounding might otherwise cause a problem
only when CPU is also connected to other AC powered peripherals (ie
printer). Just another suspect to eliminate by disconnecting computer
from anything not powered by the CPU's power supply. Extremely
unlikely for your BSOD, but a rare possibility to consider.

I would bet (wild speculation) a disk drive problem that today only
occurs in a warmer room and that will get worse later (appears at 21
degrees C months from now). How to find that defect today? Execute a
comprehensive hardware diagnostic in a 40 degree C room or while hard
drive (and interface ICs on motherboard) are heated by a hairdryer on
highest heat setting. (Again, ideal and perfectly normal temperatures
for properly functioning electronics).

Just a few ideas to identify a defect long before fixing anything or
to make the problem so reproducible that the shop cannot miss it.
 
Re: Blue screen's on start up

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Make sure that the computer is set up exactly as it was in the shop. Don't
> reattach unneeded devices. Change some cables that you didn't take along to
> the shop. Give it some time before reattaching things like the printer.
> When you do, use a different port. Don't use any hubs.

As I said before all I have attached is keyboard, monitor and mouse. I am
sick and tired of this so I am taking it back to the shop today. If they are
unable to find the problem I will be asking for a replacement PC.

I will take along my cables, monitor, mouse and keyboard as well just to
make sure that it is as close to my home conditions at the shop as possible.
 
Re: Blue screen's on start up


Hi all...I had the same stop 218 error and it drove me crazy. the system is
not able to write the to the registry upon shutdown. several things can cause
this. 1) A corrupt or missing security file. 2) An impropper voltage supplied
to dual channel ram. 3) a bad stick of ram was my problem. If you run 800mhz
dual channel ram, make sure your bios is set to 1.9 ram voltage(check vendor
for minor variations) Also an update that came with vista sp1 had some fixes
for dual channel ram problems....make sure you have the most recent vista
updates. First thing I would do is remove 2nd stick of ram and test
that...good luck, I feel your pain!
 
Re: Blue screen's on start up

"Xmortis" wrote:

>
> Hi all...I had the same stop 218 error and it drove me crazy. the system is
> not able to write the to the registry upon shutdown. several things can cause
> this. 1) A corrupt or missing security file. 2) An impropper voltage supplied
> to dual channel ram. 3) a bad stick of ram was my problem. If you run 800mhz
> dual channel ram, make sure your bios is set to 1.9 ram voltage(check vendor
> for minor variations) Also an update that came with vista sp1 had some fixes
> for dual channel ram problems....make sure you have the most recent vista
> updates. First thing I would do is remove 2nd stick of ram and test
> that...good luck, I feel your pain!

WOW thanks so much I shall pass this information onto the computer shop if
they are unable to get the blue screen's.
 
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