Which flash player for Firefox 2?

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

I'm not from Microsoft. They just give me an Award for my purely volunteer
efforts. My opinions are my own and nobody else's. In fact, that has been
giving me some problems lately, due to the , er, intensity with which I've
been expressing those opinions.

I've been doing the "internet thing" for almost 12 years, after living
pretty much totally away from technology for the previous ten years. Met my
wife in Yahoo! Chat and courted via ICQ. I've been offering advice and
helping people trouble-shoot their systems in this specific
Win98.Gen_Discussion newsgroup (almost exclusively) for a bit short of ten
years.

A word to the wise: Unless your system was built under NASA-like sterile
conditions and programmed from scratch, with absolutely no connection to the
"outside" world, there's no way to truly know if your it is infested or not.
You can only manage the risk, and make best guesses, and the simple fact is
that, whatever the reasons, Win9x users are being steadily and
systematically deprived of various necessary tools, both by Microsoft and by
other vendors. Can't blame them, really. Hard to justify all the effort and
money the extra code costs for an OS that comprises maybe a one half to one
percent of the world's OSes. (I'm probably being overly optimistic about
that number, too.)

Yes, it's mostly practicing Safe Hex that will keep a system clean, and yes,
the bad guys aren't aiming at us like they were when 98 was King, but all
those old viruses and other malware are still out there, wandering around in
cyberspace, and the vulnerabilities you're dealing with *aren't* old ones,
they're almost spanking new. They're *not* attacking Windows 98, they're
attacking any system that can run Flash.

Think about that, because if it can run on your system, it can wreck your
system. Which is why protective mechanisms are so important. Ounce of
prevention and all that. Problem is, Win98 users' choices for such
indispensable utilities are quickly approaching zero.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

<ldbrw1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d5fec377-87c4-4a90-9b48-f19a55271fb2@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Well none of them have got me yet and I have been doing this internet
> thing for 8 years now. Had some spyware years ago when no one knew
> what it was, but cleaned that up and have been safe since. Never had
> a virus or trojan and I cannot get a root certificate. I think that
> no one in the malware business tries to attack people using 98 anymore
> and in that respect I am "maybe" safer than someone with a newer non
> obsolete OS. This is like an old car that still runs and gets me
> there.
>
> Thanks for the advice, I appreciate that someone from MS is willing to
> come hare and help out.
>
> I got version 47 to work, but higher versions all had the same issue.
> I am contacting all of the websites that have this issue and
> generating a bug report. Hopefully someone will get through to Adobe
> and they will fix this as they claim that their newest version is
> compatible with FF2.
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Hundreds. That's why Windows 98 is obsolete. Deliberate on the part of
>> manufacturers or not, the facts are the facts.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
>> news:2337e24d-a8d2-43eb-ab7f-8c0e98815cff@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> > I figured that this may be the case. Perhaps you can tell me how to
>> > complain to Adobe about this. I have been all over their website and
>> > cannot find a way for an individual consumer to contact them. All I
>> > can do is contact the websites that use their player and hope that
>> > they will do something about it.
>> >
>> > I am still using version 124 in IE. I may try other versions with
>> > Firefox 2. Unfortunately their removal tool deletes all versions so
>> > both must be installed again.
>> >
>> > How many of these vulnerabilities ultimately affect Windows 98SE?
>> >
>> > glee wrote:
>> >> OK....you removed Flash Player 9.0.124 and replaced it with version
>> >> 9.0.45?
>> >> Good luck with that. You have now left yourself open to the following
>> >> vulnerabilities in that version, which were patched in later versions,
>> >> up
>> >> to
>> >> 9.0.124:
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player HTTP Response Splitting Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26969
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Control 'navigateToURL' API Cross Domain
>> >> Scripting
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26960
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player DNS Rebinding Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26930
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified DNS Rebinding Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28697
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player 'asfunction' Cross Site Scripting Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26949
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player Policy File Cross Domain Security Bypass
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26966
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified Privilege-Escalation Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26965
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player Multimedia File Remote Buffer Overflow
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28695
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player Arbitrary Cross Domain HTTP Request Headers
>> >> Security
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28696
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player SWF File 'DeclareFunction2' ActionScript Tag Remote
>> >> Code
>> >> Execution Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28694
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player On Opera Browser For Mac OSX Unspecified
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26274
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player SWFs in Dreamweaver and Acrobat Unspecified
>> >> Cross-Site
>> >> Scripting
>> >> Vulnerabilities
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27034
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player JPG Header Remote Heap Based Buffer Overflow
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2008-07-15
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26951
>> >>
>> >> Retired: Adobe Flash Player Multiple Security Vulnerabilities
>> >> 2007-12-21
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26929
>> >>
>> >> Opera Web Browser Running Adobe Flash Player Information Disclosure
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2007-12-18
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23437
>> >>
>> >> Adobe Flash Player SWF File Handling Remote Code Execution
>> >> Vulnerability
>> >> 2007-12-18
>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24856
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> >> http://dts-l.net/
>> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:feec8237-e508-4743-841f-89bf942ea99a@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > FYI:
>> >> > I also found another fix which basically answered my original
>> >> > question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it
>> >> > seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I
>> >> > found
>> >> > this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so
>> >> > I
>> >> > left it.
>> >> >
>> >> > lb wrote:
>> >> >> glee wrote:
>> >> >> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play
>> >> >> > fine with FF2
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video
>> >> >> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There might be some useful info there for you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons
>> >> >> > involved may
>> >> >> > vary.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed?
>> >> >> > or Toolbar
>> >> >> > Buttons?
>> >> >> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and
>> >> >> > using it to
>> >> >> > view
>> >> >> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a
>> >> >> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks to all.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under
>> >> >> > "Content" - "File
>> >> >> > Types",
>> >> >> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it,
>> >> >> > select
>> >> >> > Windows
>> >> >> > Media Player.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:
>> >> >> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> >> >> > http://dts-l.net/
>> >> >> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a
>> >> >> > > Firefox
>> >> >> > > 2.X issue.
>> >> >> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > lb wrote:
>> >> >> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for
>> >> >> > >> awhile
>> >> >> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well
>> >> >> > >> now,
>> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out,
>> >> >> > >> having
>> >> >> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The
>> >> >> > >> computer
>> >> >> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the
>> >> >> > >> difficulties
>> >> >> > >> I
>> >> >> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites.
>> >> >> > >> The
>> >> >> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new
>> >> >> > >> page.
>> >> >> > >> The
>> >> >> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background
>> >> >> > >> too
>> >> >> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I
>> >> >> > >> can
>> >> >> > >> have
>> >> >> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really
>> >> >> > >> strange
>> >> >> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in
>> >> >> > >> Firefox
>> >> >> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that
>> >> >> > >> this
>> >> >> > >> is a
>> >> >> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about
>> >> >> > >> this.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had
>> >> >> > >> difficulties
>> >> >> > >> with.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to
>> >> >> > >> spend
>> >> >> > >> the
>> >> >> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for
>> >> >> > >> around
>> >> >> > >> $30.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build
>> >> >> > >> a
>> >> >> > >> new
>> >> >> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Dan wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a
>> >> >> > >> > really good
>> >> >> > >> > new
>> >> >> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine
>> >> >> > >> > new
>> >> >> > >> > on ebay and
>> >> >> > >> > it
>> >> >> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time
>> >> >> > >> > since certain
>> >> >> > >> > services require XP.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > > lb wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites.
>> >> >> > >> > > > If I
>> >> >> > >> > > > use IE 6,
>> >> >> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses
>> >> >> > >> > > > the same
>> >> >> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures,
>> >> >> > >> > > > but
>> >> >> > >> > > > that is not
>> >> >> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the
>> >> >> > >> > > > latest that
>> >> >> > >> > > > runs on 98.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > lb:
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > To:
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize
>> >> >> > >> > > that
>> >> >> > >> > > flash was
>> >> >> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" aboutlugins add on
>> >> >> > >> > > installed in
>> >> >> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the
>> >> >> > >> > > list.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > HTH & GL
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > John
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > --
>> >> >> > >> > > \\\||///
>> >> >> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------
>> >> >> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------
>> >> >> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services -
>> >> >> > >> > > http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6
>> >> >> > >> > >