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[Etal]

Re: time offset, adjustments, and related discussions

Re: time offset, adjustments, and related discussions

Bill Blanton wrote:

>
> So again, what do you propose as an alternative?
>

That's easy. Just abolish the ludicrous construct known as
'Daylight Savings Time' (DST).

Timezones are necessary because we're on a globe spinning
around its axis. Agreeing on one zone being Zero and others
offset to that is logical. These are determined and set once and
for all (for the foreseeable future).

But we can't save time.
And we can't save daylight.
We can however try to fool ourselves .. with DST.

¿Merchants selling more when the sun is up.?
¿Laborers wanting more pay before or after a certain fixed hour.?
¿Inter-national trade-competition.?
DST, is illogical modifications changing from country to
country withing one timezone, and changing from year to year
within one country only to causing problems and misunderstandings.
DST is totally unnecessary. Instead allow for business to be
open, and employers to work, at different hours during the course
of the year if that works better, but stop trying to fool us that
we save daylight and or time.

(Rant over)

 

[Rick Chauvin]

Re: Not Spam, but Notice to change links


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:edzoVcoIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Rick Chauvin wrote:
>| "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
>| news:ecYMpXXIJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>|
>| [....]
>|
>|>> ..it's almost November, so get your 10 gal frylator out.
>|
>|> Already?.. It seems like I just got rid of the oil from last year ;-)
>|
>| I was told the older you get the faster time seems to go by.
>|
>| I've found it to be true! The years are flying by way to fast.
>|
>| One more question about the time thing. When I had check marked the
>| box to Auto Adjust DST the other day my clock immediately moved ahead
>| a hour, and so I had to move it back and hour to be correct, now this
>| does not mean that come 1/1/09 when it changes automatically it's
>| going to be off an hour again? I assume it will change itself
>| correctly now? Thinking of which, since I live in NH we have this
>| thing where they do DST a few weeks earlier than normal, how is that
>| going to work? I never bothered with paying much attention to all
>| these patches to fix this and that with the time thing, and just
>| assumed it was included in SP3.
>
> That's right-- DST is plus one hour. When DST is over, your clock will
> go back an hour. Very good! But verify your dates are correct (as
> Blanton pointed out currently there is overlap with the old dates-- BOTH
> are in DST now!) using TZEdit.
>
> Run TZEdit, Chauvin, if it will work in XP...
> http://www.softshape.com/cham/manual/tzedit.htm
> TZEdit.
>
> Set it to comply with the following, if it isn't already so...
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=68
> Current local time in Concord
> .....Quote...................
> UTC/GMT Offset
> Standard time zone: UTC/GMT -5 hours
> Daylight saving time: +1 hour
> Current time zone offset: UTC/GMT -4 hours
> Time zone abbreviation: EDT - Eastern Daylight Time
>
> Daylight Saving Time
> DST started on Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 2:00 AM local standard time
> DST ends on Sunday, November 2, 2008 at 2:00 AM local daylight time
> .....EOQ.....................
>
> Set it to start on the SECOND Sunday of March & end on the FIRST Sunday
> in November. (The precise day won't matter-- TZEdit goes by 1st & 2nd.)
>
> That's the same for everyone, though, who is in DST-- not just New
> Hamshire. Maybe they've stopped the foolishness of doing it weeks
> earlier since the big change back in '07.

Thanks PCR for gathering that info, and I've downloaded
TZEdit to do later when I have more time to play more than the moment.

Actually now that I've downloaded it I see that I already have it on my
drive in the W98SE partition under tools\reskit\config folder, which came
from the Retail SE CD itself that I had copied over to
c:\windows\options\cabs..

Anyway, thanks again for looking up that info which I've saved it all in
its folder.

Rick

PCR's new name handle is the Timeman

>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Rick Chauvin]

Re: Not Spam, but Notice to change links



"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
news:OOARKdpIJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> "Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
> news:O$apdOdIJHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
>> news:ecYMpXXIJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>>
>> [....]
>
>> One more question about the time thing. When I had check marked the box
>> to Auto Adjust DST the other day my clock immediately moved ahead a
>> hour, and so I had to move it back and hour to be correct, now this
>> does not mean that come 1/1/09 when it changes automatically it's going
>> to be off an hour again? I assume it will change itself correctly now?
>> Thinking of which, since I live in NH we have this thing where they do
>> DST a few weeks earlier than normal, how is that going to work? I
>> never bothered with paying much attention to all these patches to fix
>> this and that with the time thing, and just assumed it was included in
>> SP3.
>
> Yes, it will adjust automatically, though I have no idea about the NH
> rule. It (the NH zone) doesn't appear in my XP-SP3 system, as does IN,
> which
> I think also has its own rules.
>
> SP3 includes the patch to modify the date on which the zones change, so
> it may be as PCR says?


Okay then, thanks

 

[PCR]

Re: Not Spam, but Notice to change links

Rick Chauvin wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:edzoVcoIJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> Rick Chauvin wrote:
|>| "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
|>| news:ecYMpXXIJHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
|>|
|>| [....]
|>|
|>|>> ..it's almost November, so get your 10 gal frylator out.
|>|
|>|> Already?.. It seems like I just got rid of the oil from last year
|>|> ;-)
|>|
|>| I was told the older you get the faster time seems to go by.
|>|
|>| I've found it to be true! The years are flying by way to fast.
|>|
|>| One more question about the time thing. When I had check marked the
|>| box to Auto Adjust DST the other day my clock immediately moved
|>| ahead a hour, and so I had to move it back and hour to be correct,
|>| now this does not mean that come 1/1/09 when it changes
|>| automatically it's going to be off an hour again? I assume it will
|>| change itself correctly now? Thinking of which, since I live in NH
|>| we have this thing where they do DST a few weeks earlier than
|>| normal, how is that going to work? I never bothered with paying
|>| much attention to all these patches to fix this and that with the
|>| time thing, and just assumed it was included in SP3.
|>
|> That's right-- DST is plus one hour. When DST is over, your clock
|> will go back an hour. Very good! But verify your dates are correct
|> (as Blanton pointed out currently there is overlap with the old
|> dates-- BOTH are in DST now!) using TZEdit.
|>
|> Run TZEdit, Chauvin, if it will work in XP...
|> http://www.softshape.com/cham/manual/tzedit.htm
|> TZEdit.
|>
|> Set it to comply with the following, if it isn't already so...
|> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=68
|> Current local time in Concord
|> .....Quote...................
|> UTC/GMT Offset
|> Standard time zone: UTC/GMT -5 hours
|> Daylight saving time: +1 hour
|> Current time zone offset: UTC/GMT -4 hours
|> Time zone abbreviation: EDT - Eastern Daylight Time
|>
|> Daylight Saving Time
|> DST started on Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 2:00 AM local standard time
|> DST ends on Sunday, November 2, 2008 at 2:00 AM local daylight time
|> .....EOQ.....................
|>
|> Set it to start on the SECOND Sunday of March & end on the FIRST
|> Sunday in November. (The precise day won't matter-- TZEdit goes by
|> 1st & 2nd.)
|>
|> That's the same for everyone, though, who is in DST-- not just New
|> Hamshire. Maybe they've stopped the foolishness of doing it weeks
|> earlier since the big change back in '07.
|
| Thanks PCR for gathering that info, and I've downloaded
| TZEdit to do later when I have more time to play more than the moment.

You are welcome. I'm beginning to remember it shouldn't be necessary to
do it oneself, if one has XP. There was a patch in XP for those new time
zone dates that started in 2007, which Terhune converted to something
that would run in Win98. Terhune's thing fixes the dates for every
possible time zone at once. TZEdit does it on a per time zone basis.
IOW, to do them all with TZEdit (instead of just your own), you'd have
to switch to each of the million time zones one at a time & input the
new dates individually for each one. But it can't hurt to run TZEdit to
verify your particular dates, if it will run in XP. I think you're
probably fine now, but Blanton will know best, until Terhune climbs back
out his latest earthquake. Then, he'll know best.

| Actually now that I've downloaded it I see that I already have it on
| my drive in the W98SE partition under tools\reskit\config folder,
| which came from the Retail SE CD itself that I had copied over to
| c:\windows\options\cabs..
|
| Anyway, thanks again for looking up that info which I've saved it all
| in its folder.

You are welcome. Good luck with it.

| Rick
|
| PCR's new name handle is the Timeman

.

|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

Re: Not Spam, but Notice to change links

FromTheRafters wrote:
| Thanks a lot guys - I used to think I knew what time it was,
| now I'm not so sure. \
|
| ...and I gotta be at work at 8:30 AM Eastern Daylight New Hampshire
| Savings Time (I think?). Keene, not Spofford but I don't think I cross
| any timezones on my commute. So when do I go to Eastern Daylight
| New Hampshire Wastings Time?

Wastings Time is always the same in all the zones I've been in! Don't
worry about that!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net