Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

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db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
> for microsofts vista cleaning and tuning,
> use a microsoft tool:
>
> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/whatsnew.htm#


Another spammer, offering deliberately bad advise.

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Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

John John (MVP) wrote:
> Yes, most of his posts are nothing but a joke...
>

But in a sad, sort of sick way....

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

I second that. Those cleaner softwares will only do harm than good -
especially for non-technical users. Worst is that their ads is
becoming misleading nowadays and luring more users. And the sad part
is that people think that the higher number a cleaner can detect a
junk and clean them, the better it will be. But those softwares are
just preprogrammed cleaners. They'll clean anything without even
knowing what the objects actually means and what will affect. Sure,
they'll clean them right - along with other minor system objects.
They'll cripple the system little by little. When the system has been
noticeably unstable, it would be too late since the damage has been
done all over the place - in small parts. Nuff said.


Bruce Chambers wrote:
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> > Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
> > clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
>
>
> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
> clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
> cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
> *useful* purpose, to start with.)
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
>
>
> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
the culprit...
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

An "orphaned entry" will never be accessed since the application that
wrote the key is gone. Nothing bad can happen from an orphaned entry.
It's just like a channel position on your television that has no station
attached to it.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

HeyBub wrote:
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
>> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
>> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
>> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)
>
> Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
> the culprit...
>
>
 
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another pa-troller
with little to offer.

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:u6l5TI3HJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>> for microsofts vista cleaning and tuning,
>> use a microsoft tool:
>>
>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/whatsnew.htm#
>
>
> Another spammer, offering deliberately bad advise.
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

lol,

as you would know
otherwise...

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"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Oepw$B3HJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
LOL. You are funny or do not know what you are talking about

You should have written the fact that Failure to Boot from using a Registry Cleaner is one of the results of using one.

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" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uXU$2eyHJHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> most registry cleaners
> may not be as you say.
>
> but you are dead wrong
> about microsoft registry
> cleaner and you should
> be ashamed of yourself
> for being a manipulator.
>
> tell us, where are your
> responses when people
> post issues regarding
> a failure to boot as a
> result of a corrupted
> registry.
>
> you are nowhere to be
> found as i have seen.
>
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:50and4ha7n41p0p1rtltiugthmbidp6nkb@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT), "voujnbwuotkd@yahoo.com"
>> <voujnbwuotkd@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Windows Vista Registry Cleaner is one such service
>>> provider that is needed to maintain the operating system in good
>>> working conditions.
>>
>>
>> Nope!
>>
>> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
>> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
>> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
>> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
>> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
>>
>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
>> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
>> it may have.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

actually, we all
know both of you
as being sad jokes.

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:eEDivI3HJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> John John (MVP) wrote:
>> Yes, most of his posts are nothing but a joke...
>>
>
> But in a sad, sort of sick way....
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner.
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

HeyBub wrote:
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
>> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
>> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
>> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)
>
> Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
> the culprit...
>
>


Yes, of course I checked them; Wouldn't have been much of a test,
otherwise. They weren't remnants of the OS installation; all (dozens,
I'd noticed the trend by then) of the ones I checked were legitimate keys.


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> Nonsense...
>
> CCleaner is an:
>
> Excellent...
>
> Safe...
>
> Registry Cleaner.
>

There is *NO* such thing.


> I've been using it for several years now with good results.


Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure
they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In
other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific
evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.


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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Look out. DSH /loves/ this. He made it into my Killfile Hall of Fame on
the first ballot.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> Nonsense...
>>
>> CCleaner is an:
>>
>> Excellent...
>>
>> Safe...
>>
>> Registry Cleaner.
>>
>
> There is *NO* such thing.
>
>
>> I've been using it for several years now with good results.
>
>
> Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure
> they either been notarized or verified by an independent laboratory. In
> other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific
> evidence will I give such claims a lick of credence.
>
>
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

tisk tisk tisk,
your wrong again.

you know good and
well that anyone with
due deligence can
compare the before
and after of registry
cleaning....

besides, you have
admitted on several
occassions that you
use cc cleaner.

don't you remember
i called you on it?

perhaps, you should
add into your quote
line: "do as i say and
not as i do"

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:%236TsWuAIJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> Nonsense...
>>
>> CCleaner is an:
>>
>> Excellent...
>>
>> Safe...
>>
>> Registry Cleaner.
>>
>
> There is *NO* such thing.
>
>
>> I've been using it for several years now with good results.
>
>
> Documentation? Benchmarks from before and after? Oh, and make sure they either been notarized or verified by an independent
> laboratory. In other words, only when someone finally produces verifiable scientific evidence will I give such claims a lick of
> credence.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Nonsense...
>
> CCleaner is an:
>
> Excellent...
>
> Safe...
>
> Registry Cleaner.
>
> I've been using it for several years now with good results.

There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the one not
used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is hosed.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Twaddle.

I approve every single registry change that is made.

If I don't approve it, no change is made.

Perfectly safe.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:f5q5g3rjl83j.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:11 +0100, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>
>> Nonsense...
>>
>> CCleaner is an:
>>
>> Excellent...
>>
>> Safe...
>>
>> Registry Cleaner.
>>
>> I've been using it for several years now with good results.
>
> There is no such thing as a "safe" registry cleaner; except for the
> one not
> used. "Clean" the wrong key from your registry, and your system is
> hosed.
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
> tisk tisk tisk,
> your wrong again.
>
> you know good and
> well that anyone with
> due deligence can
> compare the before
> and after of registry
> cleaning....
>


.... and find absolutely no change for the better. (Provided the
computer boots at all, that is.) If an one had ever found such
evidense, they'd surely have made it public it by now.


> besides, you have
> admitted on several
> occassions that you
> use cc cleaner.
>


Certainly, I've always conceded that CCleaner is quite useful help in
finding and cleaning up temporary files on the hard drive. We're not
discussing that function, but rather it's uselessness as a registry
cleaner, which I merely tested.


> don't you remember
> i called you on it?
>


I really don't think that your repeatedly demonstrating a lack of
reading comprehension can truly be considered as "calling" me on
anything, do you?



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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> Twaddle.
>
> I approve every single registry change that is made.
>
> If I don't approve it, no change is made.
>
> Perfectly safe.


If the registry cleaner is so "perfectly safe," why do you feel the
need to approve each and every change? You do realize, don't you, that
you've just added weight to the position you're trying to argue against?


--

Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Balderdash...

Good software has checks and balances built in -- with full input by
the user.

CCleaner does an excellent job of cleaning the registry -- and
incorporating user input -- just as a good physician or attorney does.

Chambers seems to be the resident Village Idiot here.

Does he always provide Great Entertainment like this?

It's like having a pet kigme -- always ready to take a sharp, swift
kick to the derriere.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:#9zifVMIJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Twaddle.
>>
>> I approve every single registry change that is made.
>>
>> If I don't approve it, no change is made.
>>
>> Perfectly safe.
>
> If the registry cleaner is so "perfectly safe," why do you feel the
> need to approve each and every change? You do realize, don't you,
> that you've just added weight to the position you're trying to argue
> against?
 
Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Ildhund wrote:
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:#9zifVMIJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> ...
>
> ...
> Bruce, DNFTEC; you'll only get bitten. See
> http://lcngarc.twoshakesofalambstail.com/1998/12/1998120729.html


I see your point, but my primary concern is to ensure that there's a
rebuttal to the deliberately harmful advice these people post, so that
newbies are at least warned of the dangers. If doing so also boosts the
sad little trolls' egos, I think it's a price I'll just have to accept.
Anyway, they generally make themselves look increasingly desperate and
pathetic with each new post.



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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 

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