Windows Vista 3GB RAM and it's always telling me to close apps

[Ringmaster's Psychiatrist]

Re: 3GB RAM and it's always telling me to close apps


"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:42:42 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
> <ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:17:21 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
>>> <ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:37:31 -0400, "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Based upon the symptoms - it looks as if a memory leak is the
>>>>>>culprit -
>>>>>>one,
>>>>>>or more, of the applications is not releasing resources to the Memory
>>>>>>Manager. Task Manager may be of assistance in diagnosis - Process
>>>>>>Explorer
>>>>>>would be more adequate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regarding:
>>>>>>> I do have my swap file set to 512MB because letting Windows manage
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> causing too much swapping and my system was extremely slow while
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> constantly grinding the hard drive (lowering it 512MB showed a huge
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> performance boost).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Results "...showed a huge performance boost...." ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ringmaster - the major problem is not with Vista - but is usually
>>>>>>found
>>>>>>between the chair and keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> There isn't a single word from any of my comments on this topic here,
>>>>> you do know that, right? I guess not.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You are wrong as usual. But nobody can tell you that you are wrong.
>>>>You
>>>>are one of those 'the world revolves around Ringmaster' types of idiots
>>>>who
>>>>alienates everybody.
>>>
>>> I deal in facts and make mincemeat out of losers like you. Trust me, I
>>> enjoy doing it. Funny, you'll always remain too stupid to know you are
>>> far out matched and always come across as a raving loon.
>>>
>>
>>Humans don't always deal with facts. No wonder why this is your "hobby".
>>You sit in front of a computer which has no emotion. Now go pound your
>>chest and say that you are smarter than a 5th grader.
>>
>>I don't know if you have seen the show "Are you smarter than a 5th
>>grader",
>>but every once-in-a-while, they have some IVY leage stuffed shirt who
>>thinks
>>he is smarter than everyone else, but they always perform worse than the
>>average contenstant on the show.
>>
>>You remind me of one of those idiots. Take your head out of your ass.
>
> Again you offer nothing of value and engage in personal attacks. That
> makes you a very petty closed minded and clearly a always angry
> poster.
>
> You watch Smarter than a 5th grander? I would think with your limited
> mental capacity the new show "hole in the wall" would be more your
> speed. Maybe American Gladiators, or wrestling.
>
> You haven't demonstrated any capacity to suggest any TV show requiring
> you engage your brain even at a minimal level would be suitable
> viewing for you. I bet your favorite all time film is Jackass, the
> movie.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwN35uKFe80
>

Sorry, haven't seen the movie Jackass. After seeing the trailer for it, I
thought it would be better for the kids. Don't watch reality TV either or
wrestling. What I do watch are shows on the Discovery Channel, National
Geographic, and a few others. I enjoy watching Foresnic Files, Modern
Marvels, shows like that. The wife does enjoy the Food Channel as she is a
great cook.

 

[Ringmaster]

Re: Insert your head

Re: Insert your head

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:27:40 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
<ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:

>
>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Is UAC stupid and therefore FLAWED to want to challenge you as the
>>>> user when you want to delete a orphaned shortcut on your desktop that
>>>> points to a file already deleted? A simple yes or no will suffice.
>>>>
>>>> What say you?
>>>
>>>I haven't had much interaction with UAC so I can't respond with your
>>>statement. If what you are saying is true, then yes UAC would be flawed.
>>
>> See, you can conduct yourself without attacking the poster. So lets
>> take it to the next step. Should some poster experiencing a issue with
>> Vista be free to post his problem here and expect not to get attacked
>> for doing so? Again a simple yes, no will suffice.
>
>Yes by all means. If you are having a problem with any product, you should
>post your issue. I do it all the time in other forums.

So can I take that as a PROMISE from you, that you will no longer
attack posters as you have done constantly?

Are you finally ready to act like an adult, yes or no?

 

[Frank]

Re: Insert your head

Re: Insert your head

Ringmaster wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:27:40 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
> <ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
>>news:n3a7e4h2lttp22e50flrslkrh1ga6epjr2@4ax.com...
>
>
>>>>>Is UAC stupid and therefore FLAWED to want to challenge you as the
>>>>>user when you want to delete a orphaned shortcut on your desktop that
>>>>>points to a file already deleted? A simple yes or no will suffice.
>>>>>
>>>>>What say you?
>>>>
>>>>I haven't had much interaction with UAC so I can't respond with your
>>>>statement. If what you are saying is true, then yes UAC would be flawed.
>>>
>>>See, you can conduct yourself without attacking the poster. So lets
>>>take it to the next step. Should some poster experiencing a issue with
>>>Vista be free to post his problem here and expect not to get attacked
>>>for doing so? Again a simple yes, no will suffice.
>>
>>Yes by all means. If you are having a problem with any product, you should
>>post your issue. I do it all the time in other forums.
>
>
> So can I take that as a PROMISE from you, that you will no longer
> attack posters as you have done constantly?
>
> Are you finally ready to act like an adult, yes or no?

Hahahah...oh the irony!...LOL!

 

[Ringmaster's Psychiatrist]

Re: Insert your head

Re: Insert your head


"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:27:40 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
> <ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
>>news:n3a7e4h2lttp22e50flrslkrh1ga6epjr2@4ax.com...
>
>>>>> Is UAC stupid and therefore FLAWED to want to challenge you as the
>>>>> user when you want to delete a orphaned shortcut on your desktop that
>>>>> points to a file already deleted? A simple yes or no will suffice.
>>>>>
>>>>> What say you?
>>>>
>>>>I haven't had much interaction with UAC so I can't respond with your
>>>>statement. If what you are saying is true, then yes UAC would be
>>>>flawed.
>>>
>>> See, you can conduct yourself without attacking the poster. So lets
>>> take it to the next step. Should some poster experiencing a issue with
>>> Vista be free to post his problem here and expect not to get attacked
>>> for doing so? Again a simple yes, no will suffice.
>>
>>Yes by all means. If you are having a problem with any product, you
>>should
>>post your issue. I do it all the time in other forums.
>
> So can I take that as a PROMISE from you, that you will no longer
> attack posters as you have done constantly?
>
> Are you finally ready to act like an adult, yes or no?

We tried that before and it didn't last very long. You reverted to your old
ways within a few days. I was really pulling for you before, but it just
fizzled.

 

[Ghostintheshell]

Re: Insert your head

Re: Insert your head

Ringmaster <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote the following in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general on Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:33:39 GMT

**grabs the popcorn**

This is getting interesting.

--
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than
sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.

-Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

[Ringmaster]

Re: Insert your head

Re: Insert your head

On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:47:06 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
<ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:

>
>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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>>>Yes by all means. If you are having a problem with any product, you
>>>should
>>>post your issue. I do it all the time in other forums.
>>
>> So can I take that as a PROMISE from you, that you will no longer
>> attack posters as you have done constantly?
>>
>> Are you finally ready to act like an adult, yes or no?
>
>We tried that before and it didn't last very long. You reverted to your old
>ways within a few days. I was really pulling for you before, but it just
>fizzled.

What a chump. You just revealed you are the idiot Bill Yanaire. LOL!
So all the Spanky personas are really you? That's damn funny. You
really are one screwed-up loser.

 

[Ringmaster's Psychiatrist]

Re: Insert your head

Re: Insert your head


"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:47:06 -0700, "Ringmaster's Psychiatrist"
> <ringmaster@psyc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
>>news:jhg7e49so9cj5i8phptcg21tqjfvnedsnf@4ax.com...
>
>>>>Yes by all means. If you are having a problem with any product, you
>>>>should
>>>>post your issue. I do it all the time in other forums.
>>>
>>> So can I take that as a PROMISE from you, that you will no longer
>>> attack posters as you have done constantly?
>>>
>>> Are you finally ready to act like an adult, yes or no?
>>
>>We tried that before and it didn't last very long. You reverted to your
>>old
>>ways within a few days. I was really pulling for you before, but it just
>>fizzled.
>
> What a chump. You just revealed you are the idiot Bill Yanaire. LOL!
> So all the Spanky personas are really you? That's damn funny. You
> really are one screwed-up loser.

Now that's funny coming from someone who changes his name as often as I do!
LOL * 100

 

[+Bob+]

Re: 3GB RAM and it's always telling me to close apps

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:55:58 -0700, "Greg" <greg_68@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Thanks reply. I did reboot a little while ago, so I'll have to watch those
>things and report back.
>
>As of right now, the leader is Visual Studio 2008 Professional for all of
>those things, except handles, that leader is svchost.exe (1,243 handles).
>I'll post back once I'm experiencing the problem again.

Greg:

Go to sysinternals.com and download process explorer. It will give you
a much better look at the system resources being used by each
application. You should be able to figure out which program is
leaking.

As the others said: let windows do what it wants with the swap file.
Intelligent design tells us that windows doesn't need a swap file if
you have enough main memory, but windows has never done well when
forced to use main memory by reducing the swap file to a small size.
It will just thrash whatever swap file it has (poor memory management,
but hey, it's MS windows).

 

[Lang Murphy]

Re: 3GB RAM and it's always telling me to close apps

"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd@nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> "Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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>> Translation, Vista is so poorly written it doesn't even know what a
>> orphaned shortcut is. Finally we're getting somewhere.
>
> Allowing trawling of files cross-permissions levels is a security/privacy
> concern, so that's rather a feature.
>
> I see we've now begun with the ill-founded insults, and I shall gracefully
> leave you to your concerns. Good luck.
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>


Well put.

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

Re: 3GB RAM and it's always telling me to close apps

"Greg" <greg_68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, so I have Vista Ultimate 64-bit with 3GB of memory. I'm constantly
> having to reboot every few days because Vista will start telling me to
> close windows, all of which I need open so I can use them. When I look at
> how much of the Page File (according to Task Manager) is in use (when it
> pops that up), it's usually around 3.2GB out of 3.4GB. Even when I close
> all open windows it's still over 2GB, so re-opening everything again just
> gives me the same popup. The only way around it is to reboot and then it
> slowly goes back up to the popup and I'm forced to reboot all over again.
> Never had a memory problem using the exact same applications until I
> upgraded to Vista.
>
> The apps I normally have open are: E-Mail (the app that came with Vista),
> Firefox, FlashFXP, Visual Studio 2008, a few explorer windows, and Excel
> 2008. Every 2 or 3 days I'm forced to reboot. It's annoying as hell. I
> have 3GB of physical RAM, I shouldn't be having memory problems.
>
> I do have my swap file set to 512MB because letting Windows manage it was
> causing too much swapping and my system was extremely slow while it's
> constantly grinding the hard drive (lowering it 512MB showed a huge
> performance boost). Either way, I have 3GB of physical memory, it
> shouldn't be consuming more than that. When I reboot and load everything
> back up and start using it, Page File shows just over 1GB of memory.
> Apparently it goes up 1GB every day until I'm forced to reboot.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Any services I can turn off or am I screwed
> and have to hope they fix this in Windows 7?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg


Fully agree with others; 512MB is not a large enough page file. (Call it
swap or page... whatever...)

Running x64, I'd think I'd want to up my RAM. Know that's not always an
option due to budgetary constraints, but you're running an OS that can go
much higher than 4GB's, so if you can afford it... go for it.

You can also try a static sized page file... set min and max sizes the same.
(Following, as others have stated, the steps of removing page file
altogether, defragging drive, and resetting page file.)

And all of the above may matter not a whit if you've got a rogue app, say,
VS 2008, that is going to hose your system no matter what steps you take.

In any event, good luck.

Lang