Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

[Denise]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

My goodness. Do you know why the Lemon Law was enacted? Are you going to
say that those tens of thousands (maybe plus) of people didn't do their
homework? 13 months ago, when I bought X64, there was little to no
information about it except that it was an upgrade and would run faster.
NOBODY and NO WEBSITE mentioned the fact that it isn't compatible with
hardware, software, drivers or firmware at that time. Give me a break. I'm
tired of writing the same things over and over. Before you post, read the
previous ones from the beginning, and then try to say something new.

And stay on topic!!!!!!!!! Don't write to me, write to the author of this
thread. He's wants to know if XP Pro X64 or Vista X64 is better. <--- the
topic of this thread!!!!!!!!!
--
Denise

~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're going.










"XS11E" wrote:

> Denise <Denise@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I have never had to purchase new hardware or software when I
> > updated from one operating system to another, except for X64. I
> > do blame Microsoft because it gave no warning that it isn't
> > compatible with hardware, software, drivers and firmware. If
> > these problems had not been hidden by Microsoft, then I would
> > accept the blame, but no such warnings were given. I learned that
> > Microsoft will not reveal all the facts regarding its software, so
> > buyer beware.
>
> Denise, that's really hogwash and you know it. Nothing is/was hidden,
> it's up to you do do your homework.
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>

 

[Denise]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

I couldn't bother to read your book about me.

STAY ON TOPIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Denise

~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're going.





"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> If you never had to buy new ware's when you changed over, that has to be
> because you were a late adopter. Everybody else (all the early adopters)
> have consistently had problems with all the new OS's.
>
> Can you remember Windows 3.0? It came on 13 Floppies - 5 of which were
> printer drivers, if I'm not mistaken. That is why MS came up with the notion
> of 'Device Independency'. This concept means that Microsoft takes care of
> maintaining a 'Subsystem' for which everybody who wants to have their
> hardware to function with the particular OS has to supply their own driver
> that is now an integral part of the hardware. And MS wasn't even doing this
> based on it's power to dictate. At that time Word Perfect was released on 9
> Floppies 3 of which were pretty much the same printer drivers, but they were
> not compatible because one worked from the OS's side, and the other worked
> from the user's side. This was an unmentionable nuicance to everybody and
> the whole industry drew a sigh of relief in view of the new order.
>
> Unfortunately this also meant that the hardware manufacturers could now
> decide how fast their products was aging, so if you have been hanging on to
> some valuable hardware for some time you may unknowingly have sheilded
> yourself from this impact. But it's not new. We are all frustrated about it
> when it hits us, but it is far better than what it used to be like.
>
> It's nice to have someone around that you can allways blame whenever
> something goes wrong, but Microsoft cannot tell the hardware manufacturers
> when one of their products are old enough to be scrapped. If you feel left
> behind, learn to blame the guilty party, the one that sucks up your cash by
> not supporting the OS that you invested in. There is nothing wrong with the
> OS, you made a reasonable investment - the lacking support only starts after
> the OS is released and MS cannot be blamed for that, even if the rest of
> us - sitting around in the glow of our monitors, may sometimes think to
> ourselves that they are in cahoots (which they are) but your trouble doesn't
> start there. MS makes a wonderful product, if nobody buys it, it dies, and
> you'll have saved your money. On the other hand, if everybody buys it but
> all the printer manufacturers chose not to support it, it dies too and your
> money is wasted. That is how it really works. Can you begin to imagine now,
> the amount of defunct hardware that sits between all of us here.
>
> Now I am really pissed off with MS for having sold me a joystick that they
> decided to discontinue. As with all other hardware the joystick needs a
> driver - this driver MS wrote and supplied with the 'stick', but when they
> discontinued the hardware, they also didn't write any updates for the driver
> so now I am stranded with a joystick that doesn't have a driver for the OS
> that I bought from Microsoft. As a revenge I promptly installed my legal
> copy of XP Home on two different machines, so that I could put my valued
> joystick, not just to good use - but to any use. That's how much of a MS fan
> I am - but XP x64 really is a wonderful OS.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
>

 

[XS11E]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

Denise <Denise@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Before you post, read the previous> ones from the beginning, and then
> try to say something new.

I have read the thread, I've nothing new to say, just the same old
"quit blaming others for your mistakes."

> And stay on topic!!!!!!!!! Don't write to me, write to the author
> of this thread.

I'm replying to you because you're the one who rudely hijacked the
thread with your whine, OK? Maybe you could stay on topic?


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

 

[Denise]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

This thread has nothing to do with blaming others for anything. The author
asked for an opinion and I gave my opinion. I guess you decided to play with
words and called it something different but I on topic. I hijacked this
topic . . . hmmmmm . . . that's an original point of view. I wonder if
you'd say the same thing if I had writen rave reviews about both XP Pro and
Vista. No, I don't have to wonder . . . I know you wouldn't. You're just
another person who won't answer the author's quetion and finds it easier to
insult me than face and tell the truth with facts to back up your statements.
--
Denise

~ If you don''t know where you came from, you won''t know where you''re going.


"XS11E" wrote:

> Denise <Denise@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Before you post, read the previous> ones from the beginning, and then
> > try to say something new.
>
> I have read the thread, I've nothing new to say, just the same old
> "quit blaming others for your mistakes."
>
> > And stay on topic!!!!!!!!! Don't write to me, write to the author
> > of this thread.
>
> I'm replying to you because you're the one who rudely hijacked the
> thread with your whine, OK? Maybe you could stay on topic?
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
>

 

[llutta]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

Man, you must be the most unlucky person I have ever heard of. Windows
XP X64 is much more stable and much faster than Windows XP 32 bit. I
have been running it for over 2 years and the only problem I had was the
onboard realtek sound system never would work. I finally installed a
Creative SB X-FI sound card and the drivers have been great. I have
working wireless joy stick, working Maxtor 1-touch, IE 6 and IE 7 both
32 and 64 work perfectly. Netscape 7.2 works fine. All Office sweep both
2003 and 2007 work fine. the only games that don't work are the ones
with 16 bit indtallers and most of them won't work on XP 32bit either. I
use Avast works great I get updated definitions regularly. i can burn
CDs and DVDs with both Roxio and Nero. Winzip, WinRAR, WinAmp all work
just fine. ASUS A8N5X, AMD 4400+ X2 2GB ram ATI X600 allinwonder.
Westerndigital 10,000 rpm hdd, Pioneer DVD-RW DVD109. I have had none of
the compatability issues you seem to have and I never shut down my PC
unless a software install or hardware install. I am sorry you have so
much trouble. Maybe you should have someone build you a PC that will
work right.


Denise wrote:
> To say that the problems I have with X64 is like saying the Titanic had a
> boating accident. I've been using Windows as soon as Windows 95 came out and
> X64 is by very, very far the worst version of them all. It was easier
> working with the DOS Shell. Computers, as you said, respond differently, and
> this computer is begging me for the 32-bit system. I won't even get into the
> problems I've had with SATA. I eliminated all of my SATA connections and
> everything is connected using USB 2.0 cables except for the hdd cable. I
> think that the technological world is pushing too fast to come out with
> something different because there's no profit to be made if people don't have
> a new product to buy. Why would Microsoft release X64 if iexplore X64
> doesn't work and other Microsoft programs aren't compatible with X64? Why
> didn't Microsoft make things such as these common knowledge so that people
> would know that there are compatibility issues within Microsoft prior to
> their buying X64? I very much believe that the public was hoodwinked and I'm
> very angry that I was taken, and there are no other words that I can think of
> that would fit what Microsoft did, or my language wouldn't be proper.

 

[llutta]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

Which version of Acrobat are you running both 7.08 and 8.0 work fine on X64

Denise wrote:

> Well, I listed my hardware and no one suggested that it was junk, and my
> software is the type of software that most people have. Adobe Acrobat won't
> work with X64 so I use FoxIt, but other than that, I have Micosoft Office,
> email accounts, some picutre programs, such as MGI Photo Suite and Kodak
> Picture Premium, Avast Anti-Virus, Nero 7.0, and other usual programs. If
> X64 isn't compatible with my hardware or this type of software, it has a
> problem, not my computer. I'm glad it's working for you though. Good luck!

 

[llutta]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

I don't mean to be nt-picky but what are you referring to when you
continue to list "2000 XP Pro"? This isn't even a valid OS name it is
either Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP Pro

Denise wrote:
> It's too bad that Microsoft didn't state on the package or in its advertising
> 13 months ago, when I purchased it, that X64 wasn't compatible with existing
> hardware and software. Considering whether existing hardware would be
> compatible when upgrading from Windows 95, to 98, to XP Home, and to 2000 XP
> Pro wasn't an issue. Not everyone has the money to buy new hardware and
> software when they upgrade their os. Since it appears that you have pretty
> good cash flow to continuously purchase new hardware and software with betas
> and new operating systems in mind, maybe you can put some of it to use by
> giving third parties the initiative to get their support in place. As the
> author of this thread has had sufficient time to see how Vista X64 and Pro
> X64 work, he was smart to inquire about the others' opinions of the two
> 64-bit programs. It is the way I would have done it 13 months ago when I
> purchased XP Pro X64 but the opinion of all people, such as yourself, made be
> feel secure that X64 was compatible with hardware and software that I
> purchased to build my computer.
>
> So for all those who don't have a lot of money to continuously purchase new
> hardware and software that is needed for a 64-bit system, stick with your
> 32-bit system until you can afford it because it can get expensive. Updated
> drivers sometimes aren't sufficient for 32-bit hardware and software, such as
> my new all-in-one printer that no longer has the scanning and faxing
> capabilities that it had with my 32-bit system. The updated 64-bit driver
> "fixes" the scanning function but, ironically, it won't scan to a Microsoft
> Word document.
>
> I wonder how many people, other than MVP's and "computer gurus", understand
> most of Charlie's statement:
>
> "That box is still running XP x64 (now in a dual boot with LH 64),
> and has only had one re-install. When I went from the RC code to the RTM
> version, I did a clean, fresh install."
>
> This past week, I formatted my computer two times because X64 could not
> install the new CPU firmware that I had.
>
> http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=130536
>
> It's no surprise that you would agree with other Microsoft MVP's in this
> matter Charlie. It's your responsibility to do so.

 

[shiva d]

RE: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

I'm in the same boat. However for the record, i find XP Pro 64-bot not only
stable and fast, but runs jst about everything on my new Dell XPS 410 core2
Duo. so can we resurect this question especially from the MVP's (luvd much of
ur answers Charlie). my queston, like Royston, is since thery're gonna
'discontinue' support for XP in Jan 2008 (although i don't know if that's
gonna be the situation for the 64-bit version), might it be betta to jst buy
Win Vista Business 64-bit or will we be able to use our XP Pro 64-bit for
some time?

thanks
shiva d

"Royston H" wrote:

> My 120 days of eval are nearly up.
>
> I have found the XP 64 bit version of windows the most stable and reliable
> version of Windows I've ever used and have had only one BSOD when I was
> overclocking my graphics card, so not really a microsoft o/s issue.
>
> I mainly use the computer for office applications, photoshop, video editing
> and playing FSX.
>
> Given that I can get an OEM copy of Vista 64 bit for less than the OEM 64bit
> XP pro, I am likely to run with Vista.
>
> I'd like to hear from people who have used both in anger and see if any
> valid arguements exist for sticking with XP, say it's considerably more
> stable etc, given that long term the future is with vista anyway.
>
> Thanks
>
> Royston H
>

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

Resurrecting the thread - O.K. but there's not much in the subject to
resurrect. The question refers to the downloadable Trial version which has a
lifetime of 120 days from Install. Once you actually buy and install a
Release version, it will have support over a lifetime of at least until
2014, I think. The trouble with drivers will not go away however, for some
the Vista drivers MAY be working, for other's I'm affraid it will remain
forgotten.

Tony. . .


"shiva d" <shiva d@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:52306310-6EEB-4722-967D-DD42D717740C@microsoft.com...
> I'm in the same boat. However for the record, i find XP Pro 64-bot not
only
> stable and fast, but runs jst about everything on my new Dell XPS 410
core2
> Duo. so can we resurect this question especially from the MVP's (luvd much
of
> ur answers Charlie). my queston, like Royston, is since thery're gonna
> 'discontinue' support for XP in Jan 2008 (although i don't know if that's
> gonna be the situation for the 64-bit version), might it be betta to jst
buy
> Win Vista Business 64-bit or will we be able to use our XP Pro 64-bit for
> some time?
>
> thanks
> shiva d
>
> "Royston H" wrote:
>
> > My 120 days of eval are nearly up.
> >
> > I have found the XP 64 bit version of windows the most stable and
reliable
> > version of Windows I've ever used and have had only one BSOD when I was
> > overclocking my graphics card, so not really a microsoft o/s issue.
> >
> > I mainly use the computer for office applications, photoshop, video
editing
> > and playing FSX.
> >
> > Given that I can get an OEM copy of Vista 64 bit for less than the OEM
64bit
> > XP pro, I am likely to run with Vista.
> >
> > I'd like to hear from people who have used both in anger and see if any
> > valid arguements exist for sticking with XP, say it's considerably more
> > stable etc, given that long term the future is with vista anyway.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Royston H
> >

 

[shiva d]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

Thanks Tony,

aye. i have bought the trial and i'm at the eval time. i'd like to go into
WV Bux 64-bit jst to keep forward momentum. But it seems that idea would be
to big a 'step backward' compared to keeping W XP Pro 64-bit. Works fine for
me! even programs some manufacuterer's said wouldn't run it does! had a 'few'
probs w/ the drivers, but mostly it was about getting used to 'explicit'
instructions. well, looks like a new OEM sale of XP 64-bit's gonna be my
path, thanks!

shiva d

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Resurrecting the thread - O.K. but there's not much in the subject to
> resurrect. The question refers to the downloadable Trial version which has a
> lifetime of 120 days from Install. Once you actually buy and install a
> Release version, it will have support over a lifetime of at least until
> 2014, I think. The trouble with drivers will not go away however, for some
> the Vista drivers MAY be working, for other's I'm affraid it will remain
> forgotten.
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "shiva d" <shiva d@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:52306310-6EEB-4722-967D-DD42D717740C@microsoft.com...
> > I'm in the same boat. However for the record, i find XP Pro 64-bot not
> only
> > stable and fast, but runs jst about everything on my new Dell XPS 410
> core2
> > Duo. so can we resurect this question especially from the MVP's (luvd much
> of
> > ur answers Charlie). my queston, like Royston, is since thery're gonna
> > 'discontinue' support for XP in Jan 2008 (although i don't know if that's
> > gonna be the situation for the 64-bit version), might it be betta to jst
> buy
> > Win Vista Business 64-bit or will we be able to use our XP Pro 64-bit for
> > some time?
> >
> > thanks
> > shiva d
> >
> > "Royston H" wrote:
> >
> > > My 120 days of eval are nearly up.
> > >
> > > I have found the XP 64 bit version of windows the most stable and
> reliable
> > > version of Windows I've ever used and have had only one BSOD when I was
> > > overclocking my graphics card, so not really a microsoft o/s issue.
> > >
> > > I mainly use the computer for office applications, photoshop, video
> editing
> > > and playing FSX.
> > >
> > > Given that I can get an OEM copy of Vista 64 bit for less than the OEM
> 64bit
> > > XP pro, I am likely to run with Vista.
> > >
> > > I'd like to hear from people who have used both in anger and see if any
> > > valid arguements exist for sticking with XP, say it's considerably more
> > > stable etc, given that long term the future is with vista anyway.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Royston H
> > >
>
>
>

 

[mitch]

Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

Let me begin by saying that reading this thread has been very entertaining,
and I think Denise may be my ex-wife.

While I am by no means an expert, I have enjoyed building my own systems
since the days of Windows 1.1 when I proclaimed, “What a piece of garbage,
why would I buy stock in that company?”

One hundred eighty-one days ago I built this system which hums quietly in
its Antec Sonata II case:
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe mobo
Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHz Socket AM2
4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675
EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1

I have been running these programs, and several others, with absolutely no
problem:
Acrobat 7
Photoshop CS3
Adobe Premiere
MS Office 2003
Avast!
Firefox
Safari for Windows
Quicken

XP Pro x64 has proven to be fast, stable and reliable. Last night I
installed a purchased OEM version to replace the trial version. My only
complaint is that MS could have made the adoption process easier, but then
again it might have been easier if I had upgraded before the trial expired.

 

[haman]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

I have acer cop caming with vista . Iwanet do format and instll win xp .but
sad canot instlled win xp
how can do it .thinks
haman

 

[Theo]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

Can you clarify what "acer cop caming" is, or means?


haman wrote:
> I have acer cop caming with vista . Iwanet do format and instll win xp .but
> sad canot instlled win xp
> how can do it .thinks
> haman

 

[Pattypp]

RE: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

I agree! I loaded XP Pro X64, and ran it for maybe half a day before i
scrapped the whole thing, and went back to XP32. I read everyone elses post
here, and please don't think i'm some sort of rockie here. I have been
operating computers since the days of connecting to the internet was done
with placing my phone in a cup LOL. I have had every OS there was in the
past, and the pro64 is by far the worst i have ever used. With vista falling
in second place of the worst.

I have Xp pro 32 now, and one of the best OS so far. I'm not here to promote
anything, i'm here to say Denise is right, the 64 is slow, and clumbersom.
iexplore was a joke in 64, and coping files was boring to say the least. I
was happy to be rid of the pro64, and it only took me half a day to realize
it was scrap.

I had to wonder why anyone would brag about having a OS that they had to run
out and buy a bunch of hardware to make it work right. Seems sort of silly to
me. Plus have to make setting everyday, even more silly.

Vista for the price is one of Microsofts biggest rip offs. And in my opinion
they should be ashamed for ripping off people. Denise if you are still
thinking about vista please keep your XP. It doesn't matter to me what anyone
says, i know xp64 is junk, and vista is right behind it. Just a small point
proven about vista, if you load vista have fun setting up a router office or
home network LOL. Denise take care, and stick to what works for you. Patty...
"Denise" wrote:

> I'm considering reformatting my hard drive to get rid of XP Pro X64 and going
> back to a 32-bit system. Too many programs aren't compatible with X64.
> iexplore 64-bit is installed but Microsoft makes iexplore 32-bit the default
> because 64-bit doesn't work. Moving and copying files is very slow and, when
> I Googled this problem, it seems a number of people have the same problem.
> To me, it looks like X64 was introduced to the market in order to recoup the
> research money put into it but with full knowledge that it has a lot of kinks
> that need to be worked out.
>
> I don't know anything about Vista, but I'm going to wait a few years in
> order to see what Microsoft does with it, or if Microsoft moves on to
> something else.
> --
> Denise
>
> ~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're going.
>

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?

"Pattypp" <Pattypp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:285518D8-BF6F-42BF-9EA9-34BE705A5287@microsoft.com...
>I agree! I loaded XP Pro X64, and ran it for maybe half a day before i
> scrapped the whole thing, and went back to XP32. I read everyone elses
> post
> here, and please don't think i'm some sort of rockie here. I have been
> operating computers since the days of connecting to the internet was done
> with placing my phone in a cup LOL. I have had every OS there was in the
> past, and the pro64 is by far the worst i have ever used. With vista
> falling
> in second place of the worst.
>
> I have Xp pro 32 now, and one of the best OS so far. I'm not here to
> promote
> anything, i'm here to say Denise is right, the 64 is slow, and clumbersom.
> iexplore was a joke in 64, and coping files was boring to say the least.
> I
> was happy to be rid of the pro64, and it only took me half a day to
> realize
> it was scrap.
>
> I had to wonder why anyone would brag about having a OS that they had to
> run
> out and buy a bunch of hardware to make it work right. Seems sort of silly
> to
> me. Plus have to make setting everyday, even more silly.
>
> Vista for the price is one of Microsofts biggest rip offs. And in my
> opinion
> they should be ashamed for ripping off people. Denise if you are still
> thinking about vista please keep your XP. It doesn't matter to me what
> anyone
> says, i know xp64 is junk, and vista is right behind it. Just a small
> point
> proven about vista, if you load vista have fun setting up a router office
> or
> home network LOL. Denise take care, and stick to what works for you.
> Patty...
> "Denise" wrote:
>
>> I'm considering reformatting my hard drive to get rid of XP Pro X64 and
>> going
>> back to a 32-bit system. Too many programs aren't compatible with X64.
>> iexplore 64-bit is installed but Microsoft makes iexplore 32-bit the
>> default
>> because 64-bit doesn't work. Moving and copying files is very slow and,
>> when
>> I Googled this problem, it seems a number of people have the same
>> problem.
>> To me, it looks like X64 was introduced to the market in order to recoup
>> the
>> research money put into it but with full knowledge that it has a lot of
>> kinks
>> that need to be worked out.
>>
>> I don't know anything about Vista, but I'm going to wait a few years in
>> order to see what Microsoft does with it, or if Microsoft moves on to
>> something else.
>> --
>> Denise
>>
>> ~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're
>> going.
>>


XP Pro x64 was far and away the fastest and most responsive Windows I ever
used so I'm not sure why it was slow for you unless perhaps the mobo drivers
weren't right or you had unintentionally obtained mismatched ram add ons (it
is easy to get the latencies wrong). I only had trouble in finding drivers
the first year but I never had issues with software not running right. As
with any new OS there were issues getting AV and content creation software
for 64bits the first few months.

XP Pro x64 was introduced as a workstation OS for users who needed more
memory than 32bits can support. It was never an upgrade or improvement for
anything. It was an alternative OS for users needing power for content
creation, CAD, and such.

XP Pro x64 never was a retail offering. It was intended to be preinstalled
on a new computer so that the system builder would supply all 64bit devices
and drivers. It has never been a consumer offering.

 

[Graystar]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6A15D8A-F095-42F2-AB64-354675D0690B@microsoft.com...
> "Pattypp" <Pattypp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:285518D8-BF6F-42BF-9EA9-34BE705A5287@microsoft.com...
>>I agree! I loaded XP Pro X64, and ran it for maybe half a day before i
>> scrapped the whole thing, and went back to XP32. I read everyone elses
>> post
>> here, and please don't think i'm some sort of rockie here. I have been
>> operating computers since the days of connecting to the internet was done
>> with placing my phone in a cup LOL. I have had every OS there was in the
>> past, and the pro64 is by far the worst i have ever used. With vista
>> falling
>> in second place of the worst.
>>
>> I have Xp pro 32 now, and one of the best OS so far. I'm not here to
>> promote
>> anything, i'm here to say Denise is right, the 64 is slow, and
>> clumbersom.
>> iexplore was a joke in 64, and coping files was boring to say the least.
>> I
>> was happy to be rid of the pro64, and it only took me half a day to
>> realize
>> it was scrap.
>>
>> I had to wonder why anyone would brag about having a OS that they had to
>> run
>> out and buy a bunch of hardware to make it work right. Seems sort of
>> silly to
>> me. Plus have to make setting everyday, even more silly.
>>
>> Vista for the price is one of Microsofts biggest rip offs. And in my
>> opinion
>> they should be ashamed for ripping off people. Denise if you are still
>> thinking about vista please keep your XP. It doesn't matter to me what
>> anyone
>> says, i know xp64 is junk, and vista is right behind it. Just a small
>> point
>> proven about vista, if you load vista have fun setting up a router office
>> or
>> home network LOL. Denise take care, and stick to what works for you.
>> Patty...
>> "Denise" wrote:
>>
>>> I'm considering reformatting my hard drive to get rid of XP Pro X64 and
>>> going
>>> back to a 32-bit system. Too many programs aren't compatible with X64.
>>> iexplore 64-bit is installed but Microsoft makes iexplore 32-bit the
>>> default
>>> because 64-bit doesn't work. Moving and copying files is very slow and,
>>> when
>>> I Googled this problem, it seems a number of people have the same
>>> problem.
>>> To me, it looks like X64 was introduced to the market in order to recoup
>>> the
>>> research money put into it but with full knowledge that it has a lot of
>>> kinks
>>> that need to be worked out.
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about Vista, but I'm going to wait a few years in
>>> order to see what Microsoft does with it, or if Microsoft moves on to
>>> something else.
>>> --
>>> Denise
>>>
>>> ~ If you don't know where you came from, you won't know where you're
>>> going.
>>>
>
>
> XP Pro x64 was far and away the fastest and most responsive Windows I ever
> used so I'm not sure why it was slow for you unless perhaps the mobo
> drivers weren't right or you had unintentionally obtained mismatched ram
> add ons (it is easy to get the latencies wrong). I only had trouble in
> finding drivers the first year but I never had issues with software not
> running right. As with any new OS there were issues getting AV and
> content creation software for 64bits the first few months.
>
> XP Pro x64 was introduced as a workstation OS for users who needed more
> memory than 32bits can support. It was never an upgrade or improvement
> for anything. It was an alternative OS for users needing power for
> content creation, CAD, and such.
>
> XP Pro x64 never was a retail offering. It was intended to be
> preinstalled on a new computer so that the system builder would supply all
> 64bit devices and drivers. It has never been a consumer offering.


Good thing too. Fewer effective attacks that way.
I Luv it.
I've been running an ASUS A8Vdeluxe with an AMD 64x 3K+ and an AIW 9600.
Admittedly I am a power user but I don't run many games <I run D3 & a few
others but that's about it>
XP64 pro x64 is running with a mirror drive and it's been the most stable OS
I've run from MS.
Recovers nicely and aside from frequent ATI <goofy & flawed> updates, the OS
has performed flawlessly.

It does have a learning curve, however.
Ya gotta get the right drivers and know when to diag correctly when
something goes wrong.
Most of the time some update occurs and requires updating something else. A
cascade.
So then Java, or video drivers, or one of MS's web support updates for
browsing, or <the most ignored> Bios updates, or a bad MB battery etc etc.
If someone ever comes out with a new game like D3, I'm there. Otherwise I
think most of the new games suck.
I like AI and think it should be developed more. I'm not thrilled at all
with groupthink & online gaming. It has it's place, it just isn't my pref.
So anyone who doesn't like there x64, sell it to someone out there who wants
a stable system, or dig in and learn.
It's too good to throw out, imo.
YMMV depending on what you run.

 

[Josh]

RE: Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

RE: Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

This topic was by far the most entertaining topic I've ever read online.
Everyone but this "Denise" character seems to know what they're talking
about. I'm replying almost 10 months after the last post, and 64bit vista is
now retail. 64bit vista is a hell of a lot more compatible than 64bit vista
ever dreamt of. There has only been one program I've found that I can't use
in 64bit vista. Thank you Denise for giving me enough material to waste 2
hours of my work day!

"mitch" wrote:

> Let me begin by saying that reading this thread has been very entertaining,
> and I think Denise may be my ex-wife.
>
> While I am by no means an expert, I have enjoyed building my own systems
> since the days of Windows 1.1 when I proclaimed, “What a piece of garbage,
> why would I buy stock in that company?”
>
> One hundred eighty-one days ago I built this system which hums quietly in
> its Antec Sonata II case:
> ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe mobo
> Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHz Socket AM2
> 4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675
> EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB
> Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1
>
> I have been running these programs, and several others, with absolutely no
> problem:
> Acrobat 7
> Photoshop CS3
> Adobe Premiere
> MS Office 2003
> Avast!
> Firefox
> Safari for Windows
> Quicken
>
> XP Pro x64 has proven to be fast, stable and reliable. Last night I
> installed a purchased OEM version to replace the trial version. My only
> complaint is that MS could have made the adoption process easier, but then
> again it might have been easier if I had upgraded before the trial expired.
>

 

[Puteh]

RE: Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

RE: Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

Wow what a relief after reading all the replies in this thread. Anyway allow
me to into myself...It has been almost two years of using this rig...just a
silly AMD Sempron 64-Bit...blah..2...only managed to realized that it was a
64-Bit enabed proc.

So in high anxiety I decided to format it with XP Pro x64 and have done
that...I mean reformatting it for over 4 times for the past two weeks with
the same OS...crazy rite ?

Anyway after a lot googling around I managed to find the right sofware and
drivers searching for the very latest ones to date...I find that so far the
OS is stable and more respnsive than the previous OS XP-Pro SP2 +
AutoPatched...

To date all drivers have been installed and managed to get all the
neccessary softwares and applications required for just gaming, daily work &
internet surfing etc.

I probaly might stick to it until Vista 64-Bit is stable enough for the next
one year or so.....

By the way I am also shocked to find out too that my JetWay mobo can support
up to 8GB.....I dunno whether this is a bug or what coz I have checked via
SandraSoft..it really support up to 8GB...I wonder whether in the world 4GB
DDR1 sticks exists as I have only two slots on-board....

 

[Bobby Johnson]

Re: Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

Re: Windows XP Pro x64 edition!

You may want to forget about 4GB sticks unless you're going
to do some heavy computing. Pricewatch has 4GB ECC
Registered sticks for $190.00 each which are really intended
for servers.

Otherwise 2 x 2GB should be adequate for most applications.


Puteh wrote:
> Wow what a relief after reading all the replies in this thread. Anyway allow
> me to into myself...It has been almost two years of using this rig...just a
> silly AMD Sempron 64-Bit...blah..2...only managed to realized that it was a
> 64-Bit enabled proc.
>
> So in high anxiety I decided to format it with XP Pro x64 and have done
> that...I mean reformatting it for over 4 times for the past two weeks with
> the same OS...crazy right ?
>
> Anyway after a lot googling around I managed to find the right software and
> drivers searching for the very latest ones to date...I find that so far the
> OS is stable and more responsive than the previous OS XP-Pro SP2 +
> auto patched...
>
> To date all drivers have been installed and managed to get all the
> necessary softwares and applications required for just gaming, daily work &
> internet surfing etc.
>
> I probably might stick to it until Vista 64-Bit is stable enough for the next
> one year or so.....
>
> By the way I am also shocked to find out too that my JetWay mobo can support
> up to 8GB.....I dunno whether this is a bug or what coz I have checked via
> SandraSoft..it really support up to 8GB...I wonder whether in the world 4GB
> DDR1 sticks exists as I have only two slots on-board....
>

 

[elappala]

Re: Vista 64 bit or Windows XP x64 edition ?



"Theo" wrote:

> Can you clarify what "acer cop caming" is, or means?
>
>
> haman wrote:
> > I have acer cop caming with vista . Iwanet do format and instll win xp .but
> > sad canot instlled win xp
> > how can do it .thinks
> > haman
>