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Re: The Vista Death Watch

Not forgotten at all.
32 and 64 are essentially the same and both were available with
windows XP.
The typical purchaser has little concern for these if purchasing a
computer and 32 bit and 64 bit are included with the retail price of
Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/vistaget.htm

If you look at it as someone experienced, the choice is relatively
simple.
Those less experienced will most probably purchase a computer with
appropriate specifications based on their research and salespersons
help.

Choice is good since it gives consumers more flexibility in choosing
what best meets their needs while not paying for features not desired.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"The poster formely known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina
DiBoy'" <none@none.not> wrote in message news:fhkns0$71j$1@aioe.org...
> Ace wrote:
>> You forgot Vista Enterprise. :)
>> It doesn't show on the list with versions on the Microsoft website,
>> but I do have the official disc in front of me here.
>> It was also the only version offered for my organisation (a public
>> college) through the company that organises and distributes
>> software for us.
>>
>
> And Vista 32 and Vista 64 and Vista N and Vista K...
>
>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in
>> news:Or99rqBKIHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> "there are too many versions"
>>> 4 - XP Home, XP Pro, XP Tablet PC and XP Media Center
>>> There are also 4 with windows Vista, Home Basic, Home Premium,
>>> Business and Ultimate.
>>> There are others in Windows XP and Windows Vista, but they are
>>> not applicable to most users.
>
>
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Re: The Vista Death Watch

NoStop wrote:
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>
>
>>"Translation"
>>That may be part of your problem.
>>Instead of attempting to translate to whatever interpretation suits
>>your agenda, simply read what is written.
>>
>>"Bottom posting is the only acceptable"
>>Not at all, top and bottom posting are fully acceptable in these
>>Microsoft newsgroups.
>>Your inability to accept that fact is only your limitation.
>>Of course if you can point to where Microsoft states bottom posting is
>>expected in the Microsoft newsgroups.
>>But I have asked you that before and you were strangely silent.
>>
>>"so your theory is false."
>>I gave no theory.
>>Possibly another incorrect "Translation".
>>
>>It seems you are unable to get past criticisms and deal with the
>>issues at hand.
>>
>
>
> Hey numbnuts, the vaste majority of people around here access this ng
> through Usenet, not through MickeyMouse's servers. Don't you think it's
> time that you accepted that fact and acted accordingly and followed Usenet
> standards? You MickeyMouse fan boys have no regard at all to anyone but
> yourselves. It's part of the pompous MickeyMouse attitudes you MVP have
> become infamous for.
>
> Cheers.
>

Fukk!!! What a joke you are doris. You're an MS hating, linux loving
troll who is only in this ng to disrupt anyone and anything MS and you
have the gall to complain about top posting?
Amazing!
Frank
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

> "Hey numbnuts..."
> More of your name calling.
> Typical of those unable to deal with or insecure in their own stand on
> the issue.

Nope, just someone totally fed up with your arrogance.

Cheers.

--
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Re: The Vista Death Watch

NoStop wrote:

> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>
>
>>"Hey numbnuts..."
>>More of your name calling.
>>Typical of those unable to deal with or insecure in their own stand on
>>the issue.
>
>
> Nope, just someone totally fed up with your arrogance.
>
> Cheers.
>
"Your arrogance"? Get a fukkin life you piece of sh*t linux lovin loser!
We're all so sick and tired of linutrds like you trolling this ng.
Take your crap toy os and get lost!
Frank
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Call it what you will, that does nothing to change what it is.
It is your problem, not mine or anyone else's and you need to deal
with it without making pointless demands of others.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:R_m%i.2235$PE.538@pd7urf1no...
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>
>> "Hey numbnuts..."
>> More of your name calling.
>> Typical of those unable to deal with or insecure in their own stand
>> on
>> the issue.
>
> Nope, just someone totally fed up with your arrogance.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo
>
> Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
> http://www.binsa.org/
>
 
He Doesn't Understand - He Uses Ubuntu - Just FYI

He Doesn't Understand - He Uses Ubuntu - Just FYI


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:841E9662-9AF9-4ED0-922F-632A7913E0C9@microsoft.com...
> "Like a bully in a school yard."
> And yet it is you attacking me.
> Do you even read what you post?

How Can He Understand When He Uses Ubuntu- Just FYI

>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fhkn54$6rp$1@aioe.org...
>>>
>>> JJ's problem is that he's into the MickeyMouse mindset which states:
>>> "take
>>> any sort of standard developed in the computer world, ignore that
>>> standard
>>> and replace with a MickeyMouse "standard" that effectively breaks the
>>> norm."
>>
>> Like a bully in a school yard.
>>
>>>
>>> We see this ALL the time when it comes to MickeyMouse and is another
>>> reason
>>> that people are getting fed up with MickeyMouse.
>>
>> One of the many.
>>
>>>
>>> Usenet has been around a long time and has developed standards. Trust
>>> MickeyMouse and its fan boys to continually try and break those
>>> standards.
>>> They are simply pathetic.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>
>> I think Disney's Mickey Mouse will stand up to time a lot more than
>> Redmond's.
>>
>> Alias
>
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fhkhq0$j8g$2@aioe.org...
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>> If you do not like it, it is up to you to change.
>>> Make the change if you must, but it is not your place to insist others
>>> change to suit your preferences.
>>> So typical of you, to criticize when there is nothing better you can do.
>>>
>>> There in no requirement either way in these newsgroups for top or bottom
>>> posting.
>>> Both are fully acceptable and appropriate.
>>> It is noted that it is usually the Microsoft critics that have a problem
>>> with posting methods.
>>> The rest are usually more flexible and go with the conditions.
>>> However inflexibility is somewhat normal for some of the critics such as
>>> yourself.
>>>
>> Translation: Jupiter doesn't have any respect for others and will continue
>> to top post regardless of how it affects the posts. Bottom posting is the
>> only acceptable and logical way to post, your inability to understand that
>> notwithstanding.
>>
>> BTW, I bottom posted back when I used OE with 95 and loved all MS products
>> so your theory is false.
>
> Translation: Alias doesn't have any respect for others because you keep
> posting about Ubuntu when others tell you it isn't appropriate here. You
> expect people to stop top posting. People expect you to stop preaching
> Ubuntu.

Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for those
who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the moderator so
what others say others should do is not relevant.

Alias
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fhmmlc$igf$1@aioe.org...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fhkhq0$j8g$2@aioe.org...
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>>> If you do not like it, it is up to you to change.
>>>> Make the change if you must, but it is not your place to insist others
>>>> change to suit your preferences.
>>>> So typical of you, to criticize when there is nothing better you can
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>> There in no requirement either way in these newsgroups for top or
>>>> bottom posting.
>>>> Both are fully acceptable and appropriate.
>>>> It is noted that it is usually the Microsoft critics that have a
>>>> problem with posting methods.
>>>> The rest are usually more flexible and go with the conditions.
>>>> However inflexibility is somewhat normal for some of the critics such
>>>> as yourself.
>>>>
>>> Translation: Jupiter doesn't have any respect for others and will
>>> continue to top post regardless of how it affects the posts. Bottom
>>> posting is the only acceptable and logical way to post, your inability
>>> to understand that notwithstanding.
>>>
>>> BTW, I bottom posted back when I used OE with 95 and loved all MS
>>> products so your theory is false.
>>
>> Translation: Alias doesn't have any respect for others because you keep
>> posting about Ubuntu when others tell you it isn't appropriate here. You
>> expect people to stop top posting. People expect you to stop preaching
>> Ubuntu.
>
> Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for those
> who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the moderator so
> what others say others should do is not relevant.
>
> Alias


ubuntu is for dweebs.
ubuntu is an alternative for boredom
but if it makes you feel "revolutionary"...go for it.
it would truly be a revolution if for once some linux twerp could just use
linsux without feeling a need to bother the rest of the world.
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Alias wrote:


> Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for those
> who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the moderator so
> what others say others should do is not relevant.
>
> Alias

Bullsh*t! You are just a fukkin troll! We all know it. You don't have
the balls to face up to it. You are a liar, a loser and a linux lovin
POS troll.
Frank
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>
>> Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for
>> those who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the
>> moderator so what others say others should do is not relevant.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Bullsh*t! You are just a fukkin troll! We all know it. You don't have
> the balls to face up to it. You are a liar, a loser and a linux lovin
> POS troll.
> Frank

Do you honestly think I am affected by your stalking, insults, bluster
and lies? LOL! Ubuntu is much better than the Vista virus will ever be
and you're the troll and liar of the newsgroup.

Alias
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for
>>> those who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the
>>> moderator so what others say others should do is not relevant.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Bullsh*t! You are just a fukkin troll! We all know it. You don't have
>> the balls to face up to it. You are a liar, a loser and a linux lovin
>> POS troll.
>> Frank
>
>
> Do you honestly think I am affected by your stalking, insults, bluster
> and lies? LOL! Ubuntu is much better than the Vista virus will ever be
> and you're the troll and liar of the newsgroup.
>
> Alias

Oh I know I really bother you. I've outed you as the liar you are and
this entire ng knows it. You pursued a course of lying in this ng and I
caught you doing it. Then you compounded your own problems by trying,
unsuccessfully, to lie your way out of your previous lies. Problem was
and still is, your lies are in writing, for all to see, which they have
done and continue to do.
You been asked to leave this ng with your linux trolling bs, which you
did once, saying you wouldn't return, but that just turned out to be
another one of your fukkin lies.
You're a balless, spineless, clueless, characterless little sawed off
runt of as*hole liar.
Do us all a favor and get lost for good.
Frank
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for
>>>> those who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the
>>>> moderator so what others say others should do is not relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Bullsh*t! You are just a fukkin troll! We all know it. You don't have
>>> the balls to face up to it. You are a liar, a loser and a linux lovin
>>> POS troll.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Do you honestly think I am affected by your stalking, insults, bluster
>> and lies? LOL! Ubuntu is much better than the Vista virus will ever be
>> and you're the troll and liar of the newsgroup.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Oh I know I really bother you.

Stalkers usually like to bother people. Unfortunately for you, you amuse
me occasionally and nothing more.

Alias
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu is completely on topic as it is the natural alternative for
>>>>> those who are frustrated with the Vista virus. No one here is the
>>>>> moderator so what others say others should do is not relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullsh*t! You are just a fukkin troll! We all know it. You don't
>>>> have the balls to face up to it. You are a liar, a loser and a linux
>>>> lovin POS troll.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you honestly think I am affected by your stalking, insults,
>>> bluster and lies? LOL! Ubuntu is much better than the Vista virus
>>> will ever be and you're the troll and liar of the newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Oh I know I really bother you.
>
>
> Stalkers usually like to bother people. Unfortunately for you, you amuse
> me occasionally and nothing more.
>
> Alias


What's wrong mr liar? Can't stand the heat in the kitchen? Then get out
you linux lovin lying troll!
Frank
 
Re: The Vista Death Watch

Isn't this the guy that designed the keyboard layout NO ONE uses?

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e5$5kL$JIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> John C. Dvorak has been wrong so many times he has become the most
> irrelevant technology journalist of the 20th and 21st century. When
> Windows 3.0 was released, he said people would check it out once then go
> back to DOS.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
> "AirRaid" <airraid22@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4399e307-3091-4217-a503-0e18b1aa36d4@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2209837,00.asp
>>
>> by John C. Dvorak
>>
>> Microsoft has extended the life of Windows XP because Vista has simply
>> not shown any life in the market. We have to begin to ask ourselves if
>> we are really looking at Windows Me/2007, destined to be a disdained
>> flop. By all estimates the number of Vista installations hovers around
>> the number of Macs in use.
>>
>> How did this happen? And what's going to happen next? Does Microsoft
>> have a Plan B? A number of possibilities come to mind, and these
>> things must be considered by the company itself.
>>
>> So what went wrong with Vista in the first place? Let's start off with
>> the elephant in the room. The product was overpriced from the outset.
>> Why was it so expensive? What was special about it? All the cool and
>> promised features of the original vision of Longhorn were gutted
>> simply because it was beyond Microsoft's capability to implement those
>> features.
>>
>> This failure to deliver what was promised--even after several delays in
>> the product's release, by the way--did nothing to excite anyone. It
>> made the company look bad. It directly resulted in a no-confidence
>> vote that was manifested in a lackluster reception and low sales.
>> Microsoft should have scrapped the project two years ago and instead
>> patched XP until it could deliver something hot.
>>
>> To make things worse, there are too many versions. Exactly what is the
>> point of that? Don't we all just want Vista Ultimate? The other
>> versions seem like a way to maybe save money for some users who cannot
>> afford to get the real thing. You can be certain this version glut
>> results only in complaints about what each variation is missing.
>>
>> Microsoft's initial approach to marketing this turkey was obviously
>> going to be to put it on just new machines, which would eventually
>> saturate the market, but the PC manufacturers squawked and demanded
>> the continuation of XP sales. Though there is some chatter about how
>> Linux could use this lull in the Microsoft juggernaut to make some
>> real headway onto the desktop, this is unlikely to happen. But
>> Microsoft, with all its paranoid thinking, might have believed it to
>> be possible. So XP is still with us and will be until deep into next
>> year.
>>
>> I should mention here that much of this mess, I strongly believe, is
>> due to Microsoft's recent obsession with Google and online search. Now
>> Microsoft wants to be in the advertising business because Google is in
>> the advertising business. Meanwhile, it can't do its real job.
>>
>>
>> So what can Microsoft do to improve things with Vista? Here are three
>> suggestions:
>>
>> 1. It can give up on the stupid variations and lower the price on the
>> one good Vista, Vista Ultimate. I'd say $99 would be a price everyone
>> can live with.
>>
>> 2. Microsoft can scuttle the entire product. Why not? Work on a whole
>> new OS starting today with one team and work on SP3 for XP with
>> another team to keep users on Windows.
>>
>> 3. Roll out Vista 2.0. Figure out some way to add some nifty features,
>> perhaps stolen from the next version of the Mac OS. Bring in some
>> outside designers if you have to. Oh, and lower the price on this one,
>> too.
>>
>> I remember the old Bill Gates speeches of the mid-1980s when
>> Microsoft, as he told it, "sold code." Selling code was what he did,
>> and selling code is a terrific business once you are established. It's
>> even better if you can monopolize a market with your code. It's easy
>> money compared with most businesses. Halo 3 is code. It sold $175
>> million worth of code on its first day of release. Once code is fixed
>> in place and burned onto a CD-ROM or DVD, it has a manufacturing cost
>> of a buck or two and sells for anywhere from $30 to $1,000 or more.
>>
>> But Microsoft sees a new kid on the block, Google. Google is a service
>> combined with an advertising sales engine. It looks profitable, too.
>> But is it as profitable as selling code? Apparently Microsoft thinks
>> it might be. Besides, there is no $2 manufacturing cost.
>>
>> Until now, Microsoft could sell code better than anyone, but it seems
>> the company would rather sell services: software as a service, ads,
>> search engine results--you name it. This is like the local storefront
>> that opens as a knife-sharpening business and is soon selling junk
>> jewelry, moose heads, toaster repair, and cheap chocolate. In the
>> meantime, the knife-sharpening business goes by the wayside. This is
>> what has happened to Microsoft, and Vista is the result.
>>
>> I'm certainly not going to be a happy camper if I have to switch to a
>> Mac or Linux system full-time, yet that is exactly where this
>> scatterbrained company seems to be sending me.
>
>


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